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    Why are absurd lines available for certain people?

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    Jive_Turkey
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    Posted: May. 23, 2026 - 6:29 PM ET #1

    I’ve noticed that a certain competitor in the current WNBA contest has played some lines / totals which are miles away from the numbers which seem to have been available for me and I assume a lot or most others in the WNBA contest..

     

    Earlier this week, said competitor somehow played Seattle at +12.5 vs Connecticut, despite the Storm being a small favourite (-2 to -3) for seemingly the rest of the world.. For anyone who follows this league, I don’t need to tell you how utterly ridiculous it would be to have any team as a 12 point underdog against the Sun ??

    And today I note this same competitor took an over 174.5 in the Sparks vs Vegas game, despite this number sitting slightly north of 180 and hardly fluctuating at all.. 

    I took screenshots of these two examples but am unsure how to attach them to this post.. 

    genuinely curious as to where and how such absurdly different lines are available? 

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    I’ve noticed that a certain competitor in the current WNBA contest has played some lines / totals which are miles away from the numbers which seem to have been available for me and I assume a lot or most others in the WNBA contest..

     

    Earlier this week, said competitor somehow played Seattle at +12.5 vs Connecticut, despite the Storm being a small favourite (-2 to -3) for seemingly the rest of the world.. For anyone who follows this league, I don’t need to tell you how utterly ridiculous it would be to have any team as a 12 point underdog against the Sun ??

    And today I note this same competitor took an over 174.5 in the Sparks vs Vegas game, despite this number sitting slightly north of 180 and hardly fluctuating at all.. 

    I took screenshots of these two examples but am unsure how to attach them to this post.. 

    genuinely curious as to where and how such absurdly different lines are available? 

     
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    Posted: May. 23, 2026 - 8:31 PM ET #2

    @Jive_Turkey

     Mollydog?

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    @Jive_Turkey

     Mollydog?

     
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    Posted: May. 24, 2026 - 5:23 PM ET #3

    that same person also used that storm play in streak survivor and then today got the under of 187.5 in mercury/dream game...over 20pts higher than the actual line...of course they hit..and now they move to a 10 game streak survivor streak...they got punished with a void on a bad line earlier in the year when they locked in for several months on a 2 game streak with an under that was 100 pts higher than the actual number...why anyone would lock in for that length of time on a 2 game streak is beyond me..but covers finally voided it in like january..so they locked themselves out from making picks for that amount of time just to get a void...hopefully covers investigates this as those fraud lines should not be allowed

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    that same person also used that storm play in streak survivor and then today got the under of 187.5 in mercury/dream game...over 20pts higher than the actual line...of course they hit..and now they move to a 10 game streak survivor streak...they got punished with a void on a bad line earlier in the year when they locked in for several months on a 2 game streak with an under that was 100 pts higher than the actual number...why anyone would lock in for that length of time on a 2 game streak is beyond me..but covers finally voided it in like january..so they locked themselves out from making picks for that amount of time just to get a void...hopefully covers investigates this as those fraud lines should not be allowed

     
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    Posted: May. 24, 2026 - 5:31 PM ET #4

    just looked and that person has been able to use 4 fraud lines in the last 4 days to get to a 10 game streak survivor streak...that dude really needs to be investigated...no way they should honour those plays with the fraud lines...bookmakers will void plays when someone tries to take advantage of the mistakes..covers should void these plays

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    just looked and that person has been able to use 4 fraud lines in the last 4 days to get to a 10 game streak survivor streak...that dude really needs to be investigated...no way they should honour those plays with the fraud lines...bookmakers will void plays when someone tries to take advantage of the mistakes..covers should void these plays

     
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    Posted: May. 25, 2026 - 10:54 AM ET #5

    @revnecro1273

     It's currently 10:54 am EST, on monday, 5/25/26.

    The mentioned fraudster has not picked the wnba connecticut/g.s. game at this time, with the total listed as 160.5.

    Watch to see if the total of 181.5 is picked and recorded for mentioned fraudster, even though it is not available anymore.  Also, the consensus picks shows that 8 people picked that total. How was that absurd total ever available?

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     It's currently 10:54 am EST, on monday, 5/25/26.

    The mentioned fraudster has not picked the wnba connecticut/g.s. game at this time, with the total listed as 160.5.

    Watch to see if the total of 181.5 is picked and recorded for mentioned fraudster, even though it is not available anymore.  Also, the consensus picks shows that 8 people picked that total. How was that absurd total ever available?

     
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    Posted: May. 25, 2026 - 12:22 PM ET #6

    @revnecro1273

     At approximately noon EST, the wnba ny/portland spread just "randomly" jumped to -18.5.  The wnba conn./g.s. spread just randomly jumped to -6.5.  Why this random jump of 6 pts.?  Both games' spread lines have been sitting at about -12.5 for some time now, and continue to across all sportsbooks.

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     At approximately noon EST, the wnba ny/portland spread just "randomly" jumped to -18.5.  The wnba conn./g.s. spread just randomly jumped to -6.5.  Why this random jump of 6 pts.?  Both games' spread lines have been sitting at about -12.5 for some time now, and continue to across all sportsbooks.

     
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    Posted: May. 25, 2026 - 1:15 PM ET #7

    Sshake1963,

    I see a handful of players already selected both lines that are a bit skewed (NY-18.5 and GState -6.5). This seems to happen on a daily basis. What are you to do????

    Revnecro,

    I see approximately 10 of top 100 grabbed lines that are off a few points. How the player in 63rd place got an o/u off by 22 points is crazy. Appreciate you singling me out, I’m taking it as a compliment. Regarding an investigation, I took the lead last year in timestamping every pick daily I made for a week, documenting and emailing them until the Covers team asked me to stop. If the lines are there you take em. With multiple sites highlighted live offshore line moves, anyone can get out in front of line changes. Ultimately, you have to know what side your backing and what the offshore markets are doing to the opening number. IMO, That’s the only way you can have the line work for you, regardless of your side your backing. This works a majority, not all the time. The “smart guys” who move the numbers are not always right. Nothing in this hobby is a “lock” as they say. 

    I’ve openly shared my strategy before and just met several players playing on this site in Vegas last month. It’s technically playing the system back that’s playing you. 

    If you would like me to lay it out again, I’m here and happy to help. I’m not a professional, there are several on this site, some are mopping me up and pushing me to play smarter. Just look at my horrendous baseball season thus far. 

    In a hobby where the house always holds the advantage, we need every lean and best practice possible.

    Mollydog 

     

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    Sshake1963,

    I see a handful of players already selected both lines that are a bit skewed (NY-18.5 and GState -6.5). This seems to happen on a daily basis. What are you to do????

    Revnecro,

    I see approximately 10 of top 100 grabbed lines that are off a few points. How the player in 63rd place got an o/u off by 22 points is crazy. Appreciate you singling me out, I’m taking it as a compliment. Regarding an investigation, I took the lead last year in timestamping every pick daily I made for a week, documenting and emailing them until the Covers team asked me to stop. If the lines are there you take em. With multiple sites highlighted live offshore line moves, anyone can get out in front of line changes. Ultimately, you have to know what side your backing and what the offshore markets are doing to the opening number. IMO, That’s the only way you can have the line work for you, regardless of your side your backing. This works a majority, not all the time. The “smart guys” who move the numbers are not always right. Nothing in this hobby is a “lock” as they say. 

    I’ve openly shared my strategy before and just met several players playing on this site in Vegas last month. It’s technically playing the system back that’s playing you. 

    If you would like me to lay it out again, I’m here and happy to help. I’m not a professional, there are several on this site, some are mopping me up and pushing me to play smarter. Just look at my horrendous baseball season thus far. 

    In a hobby where the house always holds the advantage, we need every lean and best practice possible.

    Mollydog 

     

     
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    Posted: May. 25, 2026 - 1:17 PM ET #8

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     About one-half hour later, the conn./g.s. spread (-6.5) went back to the prevailing consensus line of -13.5.  About 1 hour later, the ny/port. spread (-18.5) went back to the prevailing consensus line of -11.5.  Obviously some contestants were able to take advantage of those rogue point spreads.  What prompted Covers.com to temporarily adjust these lines, with such an egregious difference compared to what most contestants can pick?

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     About one-half hour later, the conn./g.s. spread (-6.5) went back to the prevailing consensus line of -13.5.  About 1 hour later, the ny/port. spread (-18.5) went back to the prevailing consensus line of -11.5.  Obviously some contestants were able to take advantage of those rogue point spreads.  What prompted Covers.com to temporarily adjust these lines, with such an egregious difference compared to what most contestants can pick?

     
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    Posted: May. 25, 2026 - 6:17 PM ET #9

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     I've seen the same thing.  For example, yesterday in the WNBA KOC contest, one person had an option of (I believe it was Mercury) Phx Mercury u/o184, while the u/o was actually for everyone else as a choice of u/o 164'ish. wth..??   surprised

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     I've seen the same thing.  For example, yesterday in the WNBA KOC contest, one person had an option of (I believe it was Mercury) Phx Mercury u/o184, while the u/o was actually for everyone else as a choice of u/o 164'ish. wth..??   surprised

     
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    Posted: May. 25, 2026 - 8:02 PM ET #10

    To add insult to injury, the closing line on the site at tipoff was New York +6.5, despite being an 11 pt favorite. 

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    To add insult to injury, the closing line on the site at tipoff was New York +6.5, despite being an 11 pt favorite. 

     
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    Posted: May. 25, 2026 - 8:06 PM ET #11

    Quote Originally Posted by mollydog:

    To add insult to injury, the closing line on the site at tipoff was New York +6.5, despite being an 11 pt favorite.

     

    and you didnt use that fraud line for a streak survivor play?  kind of shocked

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    Quote Originally Posted by mollydog:

    To add insult to injury, the closing line on the site at tipoff was New York +6.5, despite being an 11 pt favorite.

     

    and you didnt use that fraud line for a streak survivor play?  kind of shocked

     
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    Quote Originally Posted by sshake1963:

    @revnecro1273  It's currently 10:54 am EST, on monday, 5/25/26. The mentioned fraudster has not picked the wnba connecticut/g.s. game at this time, with the total listed as 160.5. Watch to see if the total of 181.5 is picked and recorded for mentioned fraudster, even though it is not available anymore.  Also, the consensus picks shows that 8 people picked that total. How was that absurd total ever available?

     

    How can you see how many people picked that through consensus picks? I would love to do that at times, like just now. Today's St Louis/Milwaukee game had an O/U of 14.5. Later it dropped to 8.5 and I took under 8.5. I see that the MLB leader got Under 14.5. I'm not saying anything bad about that. It was there, so he took it. I picked early one time this week and got an Under 10.5 on a game that soon dropped to 8. There seems to be a glitch.

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    Quote Originally Posted by sshake1963:

    @revnecro1273  It's currently 10:54 am EST, on monday, 5/25/26. The mentioned fraudster has not picked the wnba connecticut/g.s. game at this time, with the total listed as 160.5. Watch to see if the total of 181.5 is picked and recorded for mentioned fraudster, even though it is not available anymore.  Also, the consensus picks shows that 8 people picked that total. How was that absurd total ever available?

     

    How can you see how many people picked that through consensus picks? I would love to do that at times, like just now. Today's St Louis/Milwaukee game had an O/U of 14.5. Later it dropped to 8.5 and I took under 8.5. I see that the MLB leader got Under 14.5. I'm not saying anything bad about that. It was there, so he took it. I picked early one time this week and got an Under 10.5 on a game that soon dropped to 8. There seems to be a glitch.

     
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    Posted: May. 27, 2026 - 2:02 PM ET #13

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     that leader got the rockies/dodgers total at 12.5 on streak survivor and took the under yesterday...though for his kings of covers play he got 8.5...he got punished with that fraud line at streak survivor when they scored over 20 combined runs on tuesday

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     that leader got the rockies/dodgers total at 12.5 on streak survivor and took the under yesterday...though for his kings of covers play he got 8.5...he got punished with that fraud line at streak survivor when they scored over 20 combined runs on tuesday

     
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    Posted: May. 27, 2026 - 2:05 PM ET #14

    Quote Originally Posted by DeaconBlues2525:

    Quote  I picked early one time this week and got an Under 10.5 on a game that soon dropped to 8. There seems to be a glitch.

     

    what play was that?  tigers/orioles game 2?

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    Quote Originally Posted by DeaconBlues2525:

    Quote  I picked early one time this week and got an Under 10.5 on a game that soon dropped to 8. There seems to be a glitch.

     

    what play was that?  tigers/orioles game 2?

     
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    Posted: May. 27, 2026 - 2:53 PM ET #15

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     Under the picks tab -> consensus picks -> league that you want to check -> details of your game of interest.  

    It looks like 48 contestants nabbed the under 14.5...and 3 contestants actually took the over!

    If the game that you are interested in checking doesn't display,  try clicking on the calendar icon. 

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     Under the picks tab -> consensus picks -> league that you want to check -> details of your game of interest.  

    It looks like 48 contestants nabbed the under 14.5...and 3 contestants actually took the over!

    If the game that you are interested in checking doesn't display,  try clicking on the calendar icon. 

     
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    Posted: May. 27, 2026 - 2:56 PM ET #16

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     05/24/2026 Detroit/Baltimore

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     05/24/2026 Detroit/Baltimore

     
    DeaconBlues2525
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    Posted: May. 27, 2026 - 3:11 PM ET #17

    @sshake1963

     I see. Thanks. lol Some just pick all the Overs without looking at the line.

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    @sshake1963

     I see. Thanks. lol Some just pick all the Overs without looking at the line.

     
    DeaconBlues2525
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    Posted: May. 27, 2026 - 4:05 PM ET #18

    @revnecro1273

     And yes, I am sure it was game 2. And now I see that 2 got 12 and one 11.5. 2 others took over 12.5. Maybe it was not a glitch. Might have just been good early lines.

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    @revnecro1273

     And yes, I am sure it was game 2. And now I see that 2 got 12 and one 11.5. 2 others took over 12.5. Maybe it was not a glitch. Might have just been good early lines.

     
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    Posted: May. 27, 2026 - 9:01 PM ET #19

    @DeaconBlues2525

     I'm using mathematical formulas to determine over unders . Am i just trying to hard? I remember you saying you just follow the books. I did a study of every game this year and it's about  48/52 split. For example picking every game that was -115 vs -105 on average you win 52 percent of time..But your near 60 percent was just wondering if there is any math calculations in determining picks involving over unders

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    @DeaconBlues2525

     I'm using mathematical formulas to determine over unders . Am i just trying to hard? I remember you saying you just follow the books. I did a study of every game this year and it's about  48/52 split. For example picking every game that was -115 vs -105 on average you win 52 percent of time..But your near 60 percent was just wondering if there is any math calculations in determining picks involving over unders

     
    DeaconBlues2525
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    Posted: May. 28, 2026 - 2:17 PM ET #20

    @dcrunk022

     

     There is definitely math calculations in determining picks involving over unders. Assuming the sportsbooks have assigned correct odds, you should have a 51.19% chance of winning with a -115. You need a 52.38% chance to make up for a 10% juice, which a -120 should give. So betting -120s you should break even. The trick to my achieving almost 60% is that nobody notices when it is 52%. Overall, I probably do 54%. I do a little better than the math suggests I should. Maybe it's Karma since I don't keep any of my winnings. Next time you notice that you are at 0 on the O/U, look at your percentage. It should be 52.38%. In the NBA, I can inject some of my own analysis, but I don't know MLB as well.

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     There is definitely math calculations in determining picks involving over unders. Assuming the sportsbooks have assigned correct odds, you should have a 51.19% chance of winning with a -115. You need a 52.38% chance to make up for a 10% juice, which a -120 should give. So betting -120s you should break even. The trick to my achieving almost 60% is that nobody notices when it is 52%. Overall, I probably do 54%. I do a little better than the math suggests I should. Maybe it's Karma since I don't keep any of my winnings. Next time you notice that you are at 0 on the O/U, look at your percentage. It should be 52.38%. In the NBA, I can inject some of my own analysis, but I don't know MLB as well.

     
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    Posted: May. 28, 2026 - 9:02 PM ET #21

    @DeaconBlues2525

     Good stuff man appreciate it

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    @DeaconBlues2525

     Good stuff man appreciate it

     
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    Posted: Jun. 5, 2026 - 7:19 PM ET #22

    So today I’ve seen someone in the WNBA contest somehow get 160 as the total in the Dallas v LA game - despite the total sitting at 178 or thereabouts .. it kind of makes a joke out of this contest, to be fair 

    in what world is 160 available??

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    So today I’ve seen someone in the WNBA contest somehow get 160 as the total in the Dallas v LA game - despite the total sitting at 178 or thereabouts .. it kind of makes a joke out of this contest, to be fair 

    in what world is 160 available??

     
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    Posted: Jun. 7, 2026 - 11:46 AM ET #23

    @Jive_Turkey

     As the saying goes" hate the game not the player " i dont get it how some players on here can so blatantly hate on another player,just boggles my brain to see this kind of hate directed at just one player by so many?me personally i experiment with different formulas/trends/tactics/ to try and hit winners on a consistent basis but as soon as i have succes with one and try it the next day it goes to ihts!but i keep trying to find that recipe for success on here,i keep looking for those moves i can make to my way of picking the teams i pick,and the categories and reasons i have for picking the teams i pick  on every sport,but never do i go snooping on others profiles and hate on anothers success,on the cont

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    @Jive_Turkey

     As the saying goes" hate the game not the player " i dont get it how some players on here can so blatantly hate on another player,just boggles my brain to see this kind of hate directed at just one player by so many?me personally i experiment with different formulas/trends/tactics/ to try and hit winners on a consistent basis but as soon as i have succes with one and try it the next day it goes to ihts!but i keep trying to find that recipe for success on here,i keep looking for those moves i can make to my way of picking the teams i pick,and the categories and reasons i have for picking the teams i pick  on every sport,but never do i go snooping on others profiles and hate on anothers success,on the cont

     
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    Posted: Jun. 12, 2026 - 12:11 AM ET #24

    @ Alexmaldonado

    I get what your saying Bud, But how the hell does this happen? I got Winn @ -2.5 Unfair is just unfair! 

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    @ Alexmaldonado

    I get what your saying Bud, But how the hell does this happen? I got Winn @ -2.5 Unfair is just unfair! 

     
     
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    Posted: Jun. 12, 2026 - 12:12 AM ET #25

    Hamilton @ +21.5

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    Hamilton @ +21.5

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