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    Warren Buffet bets Hedge Funds Can't beat S&P

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    Posted: Jun. 9, 2008 - 12:31 PM ET #1

    https://money.cnn.com/2008/06/04/news/newsmakers/buffett_bet.fortune/index.htm
     
    Pretty cool bet and interesting article. Enjoy
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    https://money.cnn.com/2008/06/04/news/newsmakers/buffett_bet.fortune/index.htm
     
    Pretty cool bet and interesting article. Enjoy
     
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    Posted: Jun. 9, 2008 - 1:35 PM ET #2

    tell mr buffett to google Ken Heebner or Phil Falcone
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    tell mr buffett to google Ken Heebner or Phil Falcone
     
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    Posted: Jun. 9, 2008 - 2:04 PM ET #3

    I doubt that Mr. Buffet "googles".
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    I doubt that Mr. Buffet "googles".
     
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    Posted: Jun. 9, 2008 - 3:38 PM ET #4



    ken heebner

    cgm focus fund
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    Posted: Jun. 9, 2008 - 5:09 PM ET #5

    Buffet is smart, but let's face it, he always gets a head start now on anything he does.  A hell of a lot easier to run money for BH always getting a head start.
     
    It's like this.
     
    "Warren Buffet says he's increasing his stake in blah, blah, blah."  The media, who have nothing better to do, trumpet the news for the next 24 hours, and blah blah blah moves about 10-15% up immediately.
     
    Buffet is smart, a lot smarter than my sorry ass, but he ain't "God" like these media clowns want you to believe.
     
    The deal is this.....do your own work, run your own money, lie in your own bed.
     
    Warren Buffet is "God".......................
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    Buffet is smart, but let's face it, he always gets a head start now on anything he does.  A hell of a lot easier to run money for BH always getting a head start.
     
    It's like this.
     
    "Warren Buffet says he's increasing his stake in blah, blah, blah."  The media, who have nothing better to do, trumpet the news for the next 24 hours, and blah blah blah moves about 10-15% up immediately.
     
    Buffet is smart, a lot smarter than my sorry ass, but he ain't "God" like these media clowns want you to believe.
     
    The deal is this.....do your own work, run your own money, lie in your own bed.
     
    Warren Buffet is "God".......................
     
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    Posted: Jun. 9, 2008 - 9:58 PM ET #6

    Buffet is an index fund guy anyway.

    In response to a question about why Buffett recommends index funds to investors, he said that for "a know-nothing investor, a low-cost index fund will beat professionally managed money." He also said he had a standing offer to anyone who could name 10 hedge funds that will beat a low-cost index fund. No one has taken him up on his offer.

    Asked later why he didn't take his own advice on index funds, he said he thought Berkshire could beat the S&P by a couple of percentage points, "just not a whole lot better."

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    Buffet is an index fund guy anyway.

    In response to a question about why Buffett recommends index funds to investors, he said that for "a know-nothing investor, a low-cost index fund will beat professionally managed money." He also said he had a standing offer to anyone who could name 10 hedge funds that will beat a low-cost index fund. No one has taken him up on his offer.

    Asked later why he didn't take his own advice on index funds, he said he thought Berkshire could beat the S&P by a couple of percentage points, "just not a whole lot better."

     
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    Posted: Jun. 9, 2008 - 9:58 PM ET #7

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    Index
     
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    Posted: Jun. 10, 2008 - 6:24 AM ET #8

    in the words of ken heebner "you cant beat the mkt if you own the mkt"

    heebner runs about 4b and owns 60-70 names...all growth all the time...70% last year


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    in the words of ken heebner "you cant beat the mkt if you own the mkt"

    heebner runs about 4b and owns 60-70 names...all growth all the time...70% last year


     
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    Posted: Jun. 10, 2008 - 6:58 AM ET #9

    "2 and 20" is the path to riches, for the manager, not the client.
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    "2 and 20" is the path to riches, for the manager, not the client.
     
     
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    Posted: Jun. 10, 2008 - 1:07 PM ET #10

    One other aspect of the bet...from a commentator..

    Since Ben Bernanke is not going to defend the dollar, globalized inflation is bound to result in higher inflation rates in the USA...probably sooner,rather than later. And while it is impossible to predict the future...it is quite possible to imagine a world 10 years from now when the $320,000 Warren Buffet and Protégé spent on their T-bond will be worth less than $320,000 in today’s money. It is not such a stretch to think that $1million in 2018 will be worth less than $320,000 today.

    So, here’s our bet: Buffett will beat Protégé, but inflation will defeat
    them both. An ounce of gold is $898 today. At that price the two paid 366 ounces for their T-bond. They will have $1 million ten years from now. Our bet is that $1 million won’t buy 366 ounces of gold in 2018.
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    One other aspect of the bet...from a commentator..

    Since Ben Bernanke is not going to defend the dollar, globalized inflation is bound to result in higher inflation rates in the USA...probably sooner,rather than later. And while it is impossible to predict the future...it is quite possible to imagine a world 10 years from now when the $320,000 Warren Buffet and Protégé spent on their T-bond will be worth less than $320,000 in today’s money. It is not such a stretch to think that $1million in 2018 will be worth less than $320,000 today.

    So, here’s our bet: Buffett will beat Protégé, but inflation will defeat
    them both. An ounce of gold is $898 today. At that price the two paid 366 ounces for their T-bond. They will have $1 million ten years from now. Our bet is that $1 million won’t buy 366 ounces of gold in 2018.
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