Market trying to rally a bit, lets see if they bring in the guns blazing after lunch...
September Stock Talk II
I doubt you will find many laughers at someone who took a profit. I think you played it just right, congrats.
Post those trades, many here would be interested..I know I would.
btw...interesting action on IMB..their update was odd to say the least..cut the dividend, lowered expectations but also said they are almost out of the alt-a business and have enough cash and book value for what they need going forward and the stock bounced big time..
I doubt you will find many laughers at someone who took a profit. I think you played it just right, congrats.
Post those trades, many here would be interested..I know I would.
btw...interesting action on IMB..their update was odd to say the least..cut the dividend, lowered expectations but also said they are almost out of the alt-a business and have enough cash and book value for what they need going forward and the stock bounced big time..
Lets see how the end of the day goes, if they take her down 350 to 400 then we should see some selling into Monday too.
Problem is though that the employment reports have been saving the market, that report today was UGLY..
Still look at the stock which are either down less than the general market or are up..those are your targets for bounces.
Lets see how the end of the day goes, if they take her down 350 to 400 then we should see some selling into Monday too.
Problem is though that the employment reports have been saving the market, that report today was UGLY..
Still look at the stock which are either down less than the general market or are up..those are your targets for bounces.
I dont get it, but they are running it..no way I get in front of this action.
Sept 12.50 calls are a 17 bagger today.
I dont get it, but they are running it..no way I get in front of this action.
Sept 12.50 calls are a 17 bagger today.
Ummm annualize that for us LMAO...I never laugh at the word "profit"!!!
Ummm annualize that for us LMAO...I never laugh at the word "profit"!!!
I like your odds..keep them open and maybe cover monday in the morning.
If I werent such a big puss i would have bot some POZN 12.50 puts, not a ton of value in them but this 3 pt move today is garbage...
I like your odds..keep them open and maybe cover monday in the morning.
If I werent such a big puss i would have bot some POZN 12.50 puts, not a ton of value in them but this 3 pt move today is garbage...
If there is panic selling early next week out of sheer terror, and there may be, then I'll totally expect a bailout emergency cut of he fed funds rate by 50 basis points.....BEFORE the Sep 18 meeting.
I wouldn't chase any shorts next week....I'd look to get long and play the bailout rate cut.
JMO, what do you think?
If there is panic selling early next week out of sheer terror, and there may be, then I'll totally expect a bailout emergency cut of he fed funds rate by 50 basis points.....BEFORE the Sep 18 meeting.
I wouldn't chase any shorts next week....I'd look to get long and play the bailout rate cut.
JMO, what do you think?
At this point "image is everything" and while they are still going to look bad doing it to some econ types, they will look worse to the public if they do not do anything.
At this point "image is everything" and while they are still going to look bad doing it to some econ types, they will look worse to the public if they do not do anything.
Did anyone read the comments Greenspam made yesterday? He drew comparisons to other financial messes when he was under the helm and said that small rate cuts do not stop the disasters from unwinding, they just have to run their course.
What I find funny is that Greenspam doesnt get it..if they were observing the market (not just stock market, credit markets etc) before things became a bubble then they COULD take action that would help.
These FED-heads just cannot get past their economic indicators and keep screwing things up...
claycourt, my comment about POZN is a short term risk/reward trade..not riding it to zero, rather if I buy a position leveraged like that and I can make 20-50% quick, that is my goal, not a longer term short like you are discussing..
Did anyone read the comments Greenspam made yesterday? He drew comparisons to other financial messes when he was under the helm and said that small rate cuts do not stop the disasters from unwinding, they just have to run their course.
What I find funny is that Greenspam doesnt get it..if they were observing the market (not just stock market, credit markets etc) before things became a bubble then they COULD take action that would help.
These FED-heads just cannot get past their economic indicators and keep screwing things up...
claycourt, my comment about POZN is a short term risk/reward trade..not riding it to zero, rather if I buy a position leveraged like that and I can make 20-50% quick, that is my goal, not a longer term short like you are discussing..
Thursday, September 6, 2007
Deadly Diversion
Another
day in the bond market like yesterday, and the Fed will cut rates on
Friday. Short-term interest rates and long-term interest rates are
moving in opposite directions. When that happens, it's bad news.
We're
tracking the divergence through yield indexes that trade at the CBOE.
Yields move in the opposite direction to bonds. Right now, the three
long-term yield indexes we follow -- 5-Year (FVX), 10-Year (TNX) &
30-Year (TYX) -- are more than three standard deviations below their
respective 90-day mean prices. They're more than two standard
deviations below their 10-day mean values.
But the short-term
yield index -- 13-Week (IRX) -- is only one standard deviation below
its 90-day mean. On a 10-day basis, IRX has been around three standard
deviations above its mean price for the past couple days. Banks will not lend to each other over the short term, hence the divergence.
If the black-box hedge funds couldn't deal with CDOs, they'll never be able to withstand this incredible divergence for long.
We
thought it was laughable that the Fed said it will look to "anecdotal"
evidence of tight credit in the future. LIBOR rates are at seven-year
highs, and that's what most scalable loans use as a reset touchstone.
So,
either the Fed acts soon, or the stock market takes a serious hit. If
they're smart, the Fed will try to help this thing settle down slowly
by instituting a series of rate cuts. We think they are smart, they
just needed to be reminded of it by the market.
Thursday, September 6, 2007
Deadly Diversion
Another
day in the bond market like yesterday, and the Fed will cut rates on
Friday. Short-term interest rates and long-term interest rates are
moving in opposite directions. When that happens, it's bad news.
We're
tracking the divergence through yield indexes that trade at the CBOE.
Yields move in the opposite direction to bonds. Right now, the three
long-term yield indexes we follow -- 5-Year (FVX), 10-Year (TNX) &
30-Year (TYX) -- are more than three standard deviations below their
respective 90-day mean prices. They're more than two standard
deviations below their 10-day mean values.
But the short-term
yield index -- 13-Week (IRX) -- is only one standard deviation below
its 90-day mean. On a 10-day basis, IRX has been around three standard
deviations above its mean price for the past couple days. Banks will not lend to each other over the short term, hence the divergence.
If the black-box hedge funds couldn't deal with CDOs, they'll never be able to withstand this incredible divergence for long.
We
thought it was laughable that the Fed said it will look to "anecdotal"
evidence of tight credit in the future. LIBOR rates are at seven-year
highs, and that's what most scalable loans use as a reset touchstone.
So,
either the Fed acts soon, or the stock market takes a serious hit. If
they're smart, the Fed will try to help this thing settle down slowly
by instituting a series of rate cuts. We think they are smart, they
just needed to be reminded of it by the market.
Jim O’Neill, chief economist at Goldman Sachs, said the credit squeeze confirmed his view that the US economy would grow at below 2 per cent, probably for the next six quarters. “The big issue is whether the Fed can keep it from tumbling over into being a lot weaker.” He suggested the Fed must prevent the US housing market sinking into a depression resembling the Japanese property crisis of the 1980s.
Ken Rogoff, former chief economist at the IMF, said the world was experiencing its “first new-age financial crisis” that was following an unpredictable path and posing new problems for the world’s monetary authorities.
“We are in a window of vulnerability,” he said. “We have reached the point where there is going to be fairly aggressive interest rate moves and if that proves not to be enough then we may see some dramatic regulatory intervention,” he said.
Mr Rogoff even suggested that a further twist in the financial crisis could help clarify issues. “Having a medium-sized bank go under would almost be a blessing at this point because it would give them [central banks] confidence to do something more dramatic.”
Jim O’Neill, chief economist at Goldman Sachs, said the credit squeeze confirmed his view that the US economy would grow at below 2 per cent, probably for the next six quarters. “The big issue is whether the Fed can keep it from tumbling over into being a lot weaker.” He suggested the Fed must prevent the US housing market sinking into a depression resembling the Japanese property crisis of the 1980s.
Ken Rogoff, former chief economist at the IMF, said the world was experiencing its “first new-age financial crisis” that was following an unpredictable path and posing new problems for the world’s monetary authorities.
“We are in a window of vulnerability,” he said. “We have reached the point where there is going to be fairly aggressive interest rate moves and if that proves not to be enough then we may see some dramatic regulatory intervention,” he said.
Mr Rogoff even suggested that a further twist in the financial crisis could help clarify issues. “Having a medium-sized bank go under would almost be a blessing at this point because it would give them [central banks] confidence to do something more dramatic.”
CFC is way below 18, down 6% today
bye bye fuckers...give me my new construction house on the cheap
CFC is way below 18, down 6% today
bye bye fuckers...give me my new construction house on the cheap
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