• Forums
  • Best Betting Sites
  • Sportsbook Promos
  • Best Sports Betting Apps
  • NFL Betting Forum
  • NBA Betting Forum
  • MLB Betting Forum
  • NHL Betting Forum
  • NCAAF Betting Forum
  • NCAAB Betting Forum
  • Soccer Betting Forum
  • Tennis Betting Forum
  • General Discussion
  • Help Forum
  • Guidelines
  • FAQ
  • Forum Updates
    Covers Logo
    Covers App
    Faster picks. Smarter bets.
    All in the NEW Covers App
    Download on the App Store Download on the Google Play Store
    • Sports
      • NFL
        • Back
        • NFL
        • NFL Home
        • Scores & Matchups
        • Prop Projections
        • NFL Picks
        • NFL Prediction Prices
        • Weather
        • Injuries
      • NCAAF
        • Back
        • NCAAF
        • NCAAF Home
        • Scores & Matchups
        • Prop Projections
        • NCAAF Picks
        • Weather
        • Injuries
      • NBA
        • Back
        • NBA
        • NBA Home
        • Scores & Matchups
        • Prop Projections
        • NBA Picks
        • Injuries
      • NCAAB
        • Back
        • NCAAB
        • NCAAB Home
        • Scores & Matchups
        • NCAAB Picks
        • Injuries
      • MLB
        • Back
        • MLB
        • MLB Home
        • Scores & Matchups
        • Prop Projections
        • MLB Picks
        • Weather
        • Injuries
      • NHL
        • Back
        • NHL
        • NHL Home
        • Scores & Matchups
        • Prop Projections
        • NHL Picks
        • Injuries
      • Soccer
      • UFC
        • Back
        • UFC
        • Odds
        • Picks
        • News & Analysis
      • WNBA
        • Back
        • WNBA
        • WNBA Home
        • Scores & Matchups
        • WNBA Picks
        • Injuries
      • CFL
        • Back
        • CFL
        • CFL Home
        • Scores & Matchups
        • CFL Picks
      • Golf
        • Back
        • Golf
        • Golf Home
        • Golf Odds
        • Masters Odds
        • PGA Championship Odds
        • US Open Odds
        • British Open Odds
        • Ryder Cup Odds
        • Golf Picks
    • Odds
      • All Odds
      • NFL
      • NCAAF
      • NBA
      • NCAAB
      • MLB
      • NHL
      • Golf
      • Soccer Odds
        • Back
        • Soccer Odds
        • MLS Odds
        • Champions League Odds
        • Premier League Odds
      • UFC
      • WNBA
      • CFL
      • Election Odds
      • Futures
        • Back
        • Futures
        • NFL
        • NBA
        • MLB
        • NHL
        • NCAAB
        • NCAAF
      • Sports Odds History
      • Politics
        • Back
        • Politics
        • Politics Home
        • Presidential Election Odds
        • Midterm Election Odds
        • House Midterm Odds
        • Senate Midterm Odds
        • Texas Midterm Odds
        • Michigan Midterm Odds
    • Picks
      • All Picks
      • NFL
      • NBA
      • NHL
      • MLB
      • NCAAF
      • NCAAB
      • UFC
      • Golf
      • WNBA
      • CFL
      • User Picks
      • Team User Picks
      • Consensus Picks
        • Back
        • Consensus Picks
        • All Consensus Picks
        • NFL
        • NBA
        • NHL
        • MLB
        • NCAAF
        • NCAAB
        • CFL
        • WNBA
        • Consensus FAQ
        • Public Money
    • Prop Projections
      • NFL
      • NBA
      • MLB
      • NHL
    • Betting
      • US Betting Sites
      • Canada Betting Sites
      • Sportsbook Reviews
      • States
        • Back
        • States
        • US Legal Tracker
        • Revenue Tracker
        • Arizona
        • Arkansas
        • California
        • Colorado
        • Connecticut
        • DC
        • Florida
        • Georgia
        • Illinois
        • Indiana
        • Iowa
        • Kansas
        • Kentucky
        • Louisiana
        • Maine
        • Maryland
        • Massachusetts
        • Michigan
        • Mississippi
        • Missouri
        • Nevada
        • New Hampshire
        • New Jersey
        • New York
        • North Carolina
        • Ohio
        • Oregon
        • Pennsylvania
        • Tennessee
        • Texas
        • Vermont
        • Virginia
        • West Virginia
        • Wyoming
      • Provinces
        • Back
        • Provinces
        • Alberta
        • British Columbia
        • Manitoba
        • New Brunswick
        • Newfoundland and Labrador
        • Northwest Territories
        • Nova Scotia
        • Nunavut
        • Ontario
        • Prince Edward Island
        • Quebec (English)
        • Quebec (francais)
        • Saskatchewan
        • Yukon
      • By Sport
        • Back
        • By Sport
        • Baseball
        • Basketball
        • Boxing
        • College Football
        • F1
        • Football
        • Super Bowl
        • Golf
        • Hockey
        • Horse Racing
        • March Madness
        • Soccer
        • UFC
        • World Cup
      • Betting Apps
        • Back
        • Betting Apps
        • Best Sports Betting Apps USA
        • Ontario Sports Betting Apps
      • Rest of World
        • Back
        • Rest of World
        • UK Betting Offers
          • Back
          • UK Betting Offers
          • UK Betting Sites
          • bet365 Bonus Code UK
          • 888Sport Promo Code UK
          • William Hill Sign up Offer
          • Betway Sign up Offer
          • BetVictor Bonus Code UK
      • Betting Guides
        • Back
        • Betting Guides
        • All Guides
        • Glossary
        • Betting Calculators
          • Back
          • Betting Calculators
          • Odds Converter
          • Parlay Calculator
        • Futures Betting Guide
        • Moneyline Betting Guide
        • Over/Under Betting Guide
        • Parlay Betting Guide
        • Point Spread Betting Guide
        • Prop Betting Guide
        • Sports Betting Guides
          • Back
          • Sports Betting Guides
          • How To Bet On Sports Guide
          • NFL Betting Guide
          • NHL Betting Guide
          • NBA Betting Guide
          • MLB Betting Guide
          • NCAAB Betting Guide
          • NCAAF Betting Guide
          • Golf Betting Guide
          • Tennis Betting Guide
        • Teaser Betting Guide
      • Betting News
        • Back
        • Betting News
        • All News
        • Industry News
        • Podcasts
        • Covers Videos
        • Covers Writers
        • Offers & Boosts
    • Promos
      • Sportsbook Promos
      • Canada Sportsbook Promos
      • Bonuses By Sportsbook
        • Back
        • Bonuses By Sportsbook
        • bet365 Bonus Code
        • BET99 Promo Code
        • BetMGM Bonus Code
        • BetRivers Bonus Code
        • Caesars Sportsbook Promo
        • DraftKings Promo Code
        • Fanatics Sportsbook Promo
        • FanDuel Promo Code
        • Hard Rock Bet Promo Code
        • Sports Interaction Promo
        • Stake Promo Code
        • theScore Bet Promo Code
        • TonyBet Promo Code
      • Bonuses By Region
        • Back
        • Bonuses By Region
        • Arkansas Promos
        • Arizona Promos
        • Colorado Promos
        • Connecticut Promos
        • DC Promos
        • Illinois Promos
        • Indiana Promos
        • Iowa Promos
        • Kansas Promos
        • Kentucky Promos
        • Louisiana Promos
        • Maine Promos
        • Maryland Promos
        • Massachusetts Promos
        • Michigan Promos
        • Missouri Promos
        • New Jersey Promos
        • New York Promos
        • North Carolina Promos
        • Ohio Promos
        • Pennsylvania Promos
        • Tennessee Promos
        • Vermont Promos
        • Virginia Promos
        • West Virginia Promos
        • Wyoming Promos
    • Forum & Contests
      • All Forums
      • NFL Betting Forum
      • MLB Betting Forum
      • NCAAB Betting Forum
      • NCAAF Betting Forum
      • NBA Betting Forum
      • NHL Betting Forum
      • Soccer Betting Forum
      • Contests
        • Back
        • Contests
        • Contests Home
        • Streak Survivor
        • King of Covers
        • My Contests
    • Casino
      • Sweepstakes Casino
        • Back
        • Sweepstakes Casino
        • Sweepstakes Casino
        • Sweepstakes No-Deposit Bonuses
        • Sweepstakes Promos
          • Back
          • Sweepstakes Promos
          • Crown Coins Promo Code
          • FreeSpin Casino Promo Code
          • Jackpota Promo Code
          • LoneStar Promo Code
          • McLuck Promo Code
          • NoLimitCoins Promo Code
          • Rainbet.us Promo Code
          • RealPrize Promo Code
          • Splash Coins Promo Code
          • Stake.us Promo Code
      • US Casinos
        • Back
        • US Casinos
        • US Online Casinos
        • US Online Casino Bonuses
        • Casino Promos
          • Back
          • Casino Promos
          • bet365 Casino Promo Code
          • BetMGM Casino Promo Code
          • BetRivers Casino Promo
          • Borgata Casino Bonus Code
          • Caesars Casino Bonus Code
          • DraftKings Casino Promo
          • Fanatics Casino Promo
          • FanDuel Casino Promo Code
          • Golden Nugget Casino Promo
          • Hard Rock Bet Casino Promo
          • Hollywood Casino Promo Code
      • Canada Casinos
        • Back
        • Canada Casinos
        • Canada Online Casinos
        • Provinces
          • Back
          • Provinces
          • Alberta Online Casino
          • BC Online Casino
          • Ontario Online Casinos
        • Casino Promos
          • Back
          • Casino Promos
          • 7Bit Promo Code
          • BC.GAME Bonus Code
          • BitStarz Promo Code
          • Jack Casino Promo Code
          • JackpotCity Promo Code
          • Rainbet Promo Code
          • Roobet Promo Code
          • Shuffle Promo Code
          • Spin Casino Promo Code
          • TonyBet Casino Bonus Code
    • Prediction Markets
      • Prediction Markets
      • Prediction Market Apps
      • Prediction Market Promos
      • Kalshi Promo Code
      • Kalshi Referral Code
      • Polymarket Promo Code
      • Polymarket Referral Code
      • FanDuel Predicts Promo Code
      • Gemini Predictions Promo Code
      • Novig Promo Code
      • Underdog Promo Code
      • ProphetX Promo Code
      • OG Promo Code
      • Plus500 Promo Code
      • Betr Promo Code
      • DraftKings Predictions Promo Code
      • Fanatics Markets Promo Code
    • NFL Week 10
      NFL Week 10
      • NFL Odds
      • NFL Picks
      • Commanders-Giants Picks
      • Week 10 Survivor Picks
      • NFL Prediction Markets
      • NFL Betting Sites
    Covers Account
    Log in Create account
    Join free Log in
    All Forums | Investments

    September Stock Talk II

    «First Previous 12345 Next Last»
    wallstreetcappers
    claycourtlesson
    coolguy13
    AZGrinder
    Gunners
    ...
    Participants:
    Search
    Views: 1983
    Posts: 104
    «First Previous 12345 Next Last»
     
    wallstreetcappers
    wallstreetcappers
    Covers Linesmen
    Participation Meter
    Joined: Feb, 2003
    Posts: 58464
    Posted: Sep. 11, 2007 - 1:15 PM ET #76

    Interesting action on NABI today, not worth chasing since I dont think the news is all that great, but a nice move in a stock I follow..  

    FSLR is a tough one to crack no doubt about it..I think the upside has to be capped to a degree with that terrible second they did, sellers will come in if the stock goes too high, but it sure doesnt seem to want to drop, which it should...stock deserves to be at 40 bucks...
    Reply
    Interesting action on NABI today, not worth chasing since I dont think the news is all that great, but a nice move in a stock I follow..  

    FSLR is a tough one to crack no doubt about it..I think the upside has to be capped to a degree with that terrible second they did, sellers will come in if the stock goes too high, but it sure doesnt seem to want to drop, which it should...stock deserves to be at 40 bucks...
     
    claycourtlesson
    claycourtlesson
    All-Star
    Participation Meter
    Joined: Jan, 2006
    Posts: 14917
    Posted: Sep. 11, 2007 - 1:21 PM ET #77

    Yeah, I know, and I got to do something with what I have left. 
     
    The 111 cost basis is not cheap, but I am thankful for selling 75% of my stake in it during its run the day before the earnings release.
     
    Let's face it, this is buoyed by one thing......SHORT INTEREST.
     
    Manipulators that want fast money can use this to their advantage, and that's what's going on today.  Manipulators are fucking with the shorts.
    Reply
    Yeah, I know, and I got to do something with what I have left. 
     
    The 111 cost basis is not cheap, but I am thankful for selling 75% of my stake in it during its run the day before the earnings release.
     
    Let's face it, this is buoyed by one thing......SHORT INTEREST.
     
    Manipulators that want fast money can use this to their advantage, and that's what's going on today.  Manipulators are fucking with the shorts.
     
    wallstreetcappers
    wallstreetcappers
    Covers Linesmen
    Participation Meter
    Joined: Feb, 2003
    Posts: 58464
    Posted: Sep. 11, 2007 - 1:26 PM ET #78

    with that monster second, the effect on a short push is reduced though.

    The more they float, the larger the pool..

    I think the short interest has to be lower than a few months ago..the beta has dropped and the volatility has reduced..but they still price those options OUTRAGEOUSLY on the stock..out of contol.

    I need to get me 100k in crazy trading funds and short calls ability (I have never even tried to get the authorization, too much of a temptation) because selling calls on this stock is making someone very wealthy..
    Reply
    with that monster second, the effect on a short push is reduced though.

    The more they float, the larger the pool..

    I think the short interest has to be lower than a few months ago..the beta has dropped and the volatility has reduced..but they still price those options OUTRAGEOUSLY on the stock..out of contol.

    I need to get me 100k in crazy trading funds and short calls ability (I have never even tried to get the authorization, too much of a temptation) because selling calls on this stock is making someone very wealthy..
     
    claycourtlesson
    claycourtlesson
    All-Star
    Participation Meter
    Joined: Jan, 2006
    Posts: 14917
    Posted: Sep. 11, 2007 - 1:31 PM ET #79

    Yeah, selling naked calls is the best way to go short on something.....no freakin doubt.
     
    WSC-
     
    These solar companies could best be shorted AFTER news of some big contract hits the wires.....the dumb money comes in as the smart money sells to them.....then it drops.  Happens about, oh, 95% of the time. 
     
    Selling naked overpriced calls on this thing......hell even 3 strikes out in the expiration month would net easy, EASY money.
    Reply
    Yeah, selling naked calls is the best way to go short on something.....no freakin doubt.
     
    WSC-
     
    These solar companies could best be shorted AFTER news of some big contract hits the wires.....the dumb money comes in as the smart money sells to them.....then it drops.  Happens about, oh, 95% of the time. 
     
    Selling naked overpriced calls on this thing......hell even 3 strikes out in the expiration month would net easy, EASY money.
     
    claycourtlesson
    claycourtlesson
    All-Star
    Participation Meter
    Joined: Jan, 2006
    Posts: 14917
    Posted: Sep. 11, 2007 - 1:48 PM ET #80

    Am looking for the broad market to sell off these last 2 hours as hand-wringng will set in.
     
    Won't be shocked to see a confession in after hours.
     
    Cheers, guys. 
    Reply
    Am looking for the broad market to sell off these last 2 hours as hand-wringng will set in.
     
    Won't be shocked to see a confession in after hours.
     
    Cheers, guys. 
     
    wallstreetcappers
    wallstreetcappers
    Covers Linesmen
    Participation Meter
    Joined: Feb, 2003
    Posts: 58464
    Posted: Sep. 11, 2007 - 2:13 PM ET #81

    claycourt,

    I dont see it..sell off that is.

    You are right about the lenders, they are down today even with overall market strength.

    To me this smells like a +200 dow day and 45 or so on the Naz..very little selling so far today and I think she goes HIGHER.

    Look at drillers and refiners, soft today..might be time to tap a few of these on shorts..  
    Reply
    claycourt,

    I dont see it..sell off that is.

    You are right about the lenders, they are down today even with overall market strength.

    To me this smells like a +200 dow day and 45 or so on the Naz..very little selling so far today and I think she goes HIGHER.

    Look at drillers and refiners, soft today..might be time to tap a few of these on shorts..  
     
    claycourtlesson
    claycourtlesson
    All-Star
    Participation Meter
    Joined: Jan, 2006
    Posts: 14917
    Posted: Sep. 11, 2007 - 2:18 PM ET #82

    I'm not current on the oil biz, at all.  Sucks, but the truth.
     
    I got to be current to try a short.  Am also terrified of shorting oil with terrorist attacks and shit.....just can't do it.
     
    Call me a chicken-shit, but I ain't shorting anything oil related.
    Reply
    I'm not current on the oil biz, at all.  Sucks, but the truth.
     
    I got to be current to try a short.  Am also terrified of shorting oil with terrorist attacks and shit.....just can't do it.
     
    Call me a chicken-shit, but I ain't shorting anything oil related.
     
    wallstreetcappers
    wallstreetcappers
    Covers Linesmen
    Participation Meter
    Joined: Feb, 2003
    Posts: 58464
    Posted: Sep. 11, 2007 - 2:35 PM ET #83

    claycourt,

    Drillers and refiners make money off the difference between what they drill and what the price of crude is, but even MORE so the margin between the price they get for refining products, crude into nat gas, unleaded etc and what the price of crude is.

    As someone listed a few days ago, the spreads between the refined products and the price of crude have come down quite a bit which means less profits.

    So looking at 75 a barrel might be misleading as to the value of oil stocks..especially refiners.
    Reply
    claycourt,

    Drillers and refiners make money off the difference between what they drill and what the price of crude is, but even MORE so the margin between the price they get for refining products, crude into nat gas, unleaded etc and what the price of crude is.

    As someone listed a few days ago, the spreads between the refined products and the price of crude have come down quite a bit which means less profits.

    So looking at 75 a barrel might be misleading as to the value of oil stocks..especially refiners.
     
    claycourtlesson
    claycourtlesson
    All-Star
    Participation Meter
    Joined: Jan, 2006
    Posts: 14917
    Posted: Sep. 11, 2007 - 4:55 PM ET #84

    Good points.  Yeah, man, I know what each does, but like I said, I am not current (so I am not familiar with how these ticker symbols move) enough to handicap emotional sentiment for a short term bet.
     
    Good call on broad market extending its rally into last 2 hours....I was wrong, but am lucky I took the FSLR bet off the board.
     
    Cheers
    Reply
    Good points.  Yeah, man, I know what each does, but like I said, I am not current (so I am not familiar with how these ticker symbols move) enough to handicap emotional sentiment for a short term bet.
     
    Good call on broad market extending its rally into last 2 hours....I was wrong, but am lucky I took the FSLR bet off the board.
     
    Cheers
     
    coolguy13
    coolguy13
    Prospect
    Participation Meter
    Joined: Apr, 2007
    Posts: 19
    Posted: Sep. 11, 2007 - 7:23 PM ET #85

    Any thoughts on GIGM's move lately or AEO today?
    Reply
    Any thoughts on GIGM's move lately or AEO today?
     
    claycourtlesson
    claycourtlesson
    All-Star
    Participation Meter
    Joined: Jan, 2006
    Posts: 14917
    Posted: Sep. 11, 2007 - 7:23 PM ET #86

    For a very short-term "trade" only, I can see CFC having some money houses hype them in the next few days so they can clear some more of their inventories.  Additionally, rumors are making the rounds of another bailout package coming.
     
    But to do this, you got to hit it BEFORE all this becomes public, cause then the move will have already taken place.  And it'll take balls, cause we all know some confessions are coming.
     
    What I can say is that chasing a short on CFC could give you a bad case of whipsaw, so don't do it unless you have inside info on something.
     
    Cheers
    Reply
    For a very short-term "trade" only, I can see CFC having some money houses hype them in the next few days so they can clear some more of their inventories.  Additionally, rumors are making the rounds of another bailout package coming.
     
    But to do this, you got to hit it BEFORE all this becomes public, cause then the move will have already taken place.  And it'll take balls, cause we all know some confessions are coming.
     
    What I can say is that chasing a short on CFC could give you a bad case of whipsaw, so don't do it unless you have inside info on something.
     
    Cheers
     
    wallstreetcappers
    wallstreetcappers
    Covers Linesmen
    Participation Meter
    Joined: Feb, 2003
    Posts: 58464
    Posted: Sep. 11, 2007 - 7:33 PM ET #87

    claycourt,

    I dont know if I want to fight the tape long on CFC, trading like dog crap..

    Funny thing is if their earnings and revenues come down like they should, it is probably fairly valued right here...it isnt a cheap stock at all if their revenues get cut in half and profits go away..so many issues out there and it wont unwind for a very long time.


    Reply
    claycourt,

    I dont know if I want to fight the tape long on CFC, trading like dog crap..

    Funny thing is if their earnings and revenues come down like they should, it is probably fairly valued right here...it isnt a cheap stock at all if their revenues get cut in half and profits go away..so many issues out there and it wont unwind for a very long time.


     
    AZGrinder
    AZGrinder
    Prospect
    Participation Meter
    Joined: Sep, 2006
    Posts: 328
    Posted: Sep. 11, 2007 - 10:09 PM ET #88

    Instead of selling naked calls what do you think of a credit spread? Like for cfc...if you sold oct 20's and bought oct 22.50 seems like not much risk.  Or maybe fslr sell the oct 120's and buy the 125's?  Both cases stock would have to move up pretty big % to lose.  Just throwing it out there..I can't do it now but in process of getting higher approval level and starting to learn more about different strategies.
    Reply
    Instead of selling naked calls what do you think of a credit spread? Like for cfc...if you sold oct 20's and bought oct 22.50 seems like not much risk.  Or maybe fslr sell the oct 120's and buy the 125's?  Both cases stock would have to move up pretty big % to lose.  Just throwing it out there..I can't do it now but in process of getting higher approval level and starting to learn more about different strategies.
     
    wallstreetcappers
    wallstreetcappers
    Covers Linesmen
    Participation Meter
    Joined: Feb, 2003
    Posts: 58464
    Posted: Sep. 11, 2007 - 10:15 PM ET #89

    Grinder,

    Exactly..both strategies require the higher approval level..

    But yeah it definately is safer to do a credit spread, locks in the loss.

    I would probably sell the crap out of longer term calls on those ultra high beta stocks..

    For example, the March 150s on FSLR are going for 5 bucks..stock has to move 50% in 7 months to beat you..

    Or the 170s are going for 2 and change. I like the odds of risk on that naked call..

    Speaking of that it looks like someone sold naked the march 45 puts, a square 200 lot went today..tell me that isnt a naked seller..


    Reply
    Grinder,

    Exactly..both strategies require the higher approval level..

    But yeah it definately is safer to do a credit spread, locks in the loss.

    I would probably sell the crap out of longer term calls on those ultra high beta stocks..

    For example, the March 150s on FSLR are going for 5 bucks..stock has to move 50% in 7 months to beat you..

    Or the 170s are going for 2 and change. I like the odds of risk on that naked call..

    Speaking of that it looks like someone sold naked the march 45 puts, a square 200 lot went today..tell me that isnt a naked seller..


     
    AZGrinder
    AZGrinder
    Prospect
    Participation Meter
    Joined: Sep, 2006
    Posts: 328
    Posted: Sep. 12, 2007 - 12:17 AM ET #90

    Those puts are nuts but damn thats a nice credit to the account.  Wonder who was on the long side of that trade, kind of weird.
     
    Even IDMI sept 2.50 calls had similar volume.  Even though its only a nickel its a "free" 1,000 to the seller.  Man, one wrong gamble though and its bankruptcy. 
     
     
    Reply
    Those puts are nuts but damn thats a nice credit to the account.  Wonder who was on the long side of that trade, kind of weird.
     
    Even IDMI sept 2.50 calls had similar volume.  Even though its only a nickel its a "free" 1,000 to the seller.  Man, one wrong gamble though and its bankruptcy. 
     
     
     
    Gunners
    Gunners
    Veteran
    Participation Meter
    Joined: Feb, 2006
    Posts: 3392
    Posted: Sep. 12, 2007 - 8:07 AM ET #91

    cool guy:
     
    AEO is a great buy right now in my opinion.  I went long a month ago or so at 23.30, sold at 25.50 and now have bought back in at 23.26 on monday. 
     
    the ceo purchased $20mm in shares yesterday.  it looks like it is dipping in pre-market after that huge run yesterday, but i like a hold on this through christmas.  however, if it bumps up to 26 or so again, i might just sell it for a quick trade. 
     
    that being said, i still don't know all that much about trading stocks. 
    Reply
    cool guy:
     
    AEO is a great buy right now in my opinion.  I went long a month ago or so at 23.30, sold at 25.50 and now have bought back in at 23.26 on monday. 
     
    the ceo purchased $20mm in shares yesterday.  it looks like it is dipping in pre-market after that huge run yesterday, but i like a hold on this through christmas.  however, if it bumps up to 26 or so again, i might just sell it for a quick trade. 
     
    that being said, i still don't know all that much about trading stocks. 
     
    Vermeer
    Vermeer
    Veteran
    Participation Meter
    Joined: Dec, 2006
    Posts: 2910
    Posted: Sep. 12, 2007 - 9:18 AM ET #92

    I would have loved to have seen this...

    Just days before American Home's bankruptcy filing, Freddie Mac and Ginnie Mae terminated the company's loan-servicing rights. They also sent representatives to collect loan files from American Home's servicing facility in Irving, Texas.

    In court documents, American Home said Ginnie Mae representatives "stood in a line in front of the doors and sat on the stairs, preventing AHM Servicing employees from entering the office." Freddie Mac said American Home "had its security personnel escort the Freddie Mac representatives out."


    LMAO


    Reply
    I would have loved to have seen this...

    Just days before American Home's bankruptcy filing, Freddie Mac and Ginnie Mae terminated the company's loan-servicing rights. They also sent representatives to collect loan files from American Home's servicing facility in Irving, Texas.

    In court documents, American Home said Ginnie Mae representatives "stood in a line in front of the doors and sat on the stairs, preventing AHM Servicing employees from entering the office." Freddie Mac said American Home "had its security personnel escort the Freddie Mac representatives out."


    LMAO


     
    KOAJ
    KOAJ
    Covers Linesmen
    Participation Meter
    Joined: Oct, 2005
    Posts: 66698
    Posted: Sep. 12, 2007 - 9:22 AM ET #93

    fyi

    CFC is looking for another "investor/bailout"...rumor has them in bed with GS, JPM, or C

    why these guys keep putting lipstick on a pig is beyond me

    or...they are all so intertwined they will do anything to save their own asses...that includes propping up a turd
    Reply
    fyi

    CFC is looking for another "investor/bailout"...rumor has them in bed with GS, JPM, or C

    why these guys keep putting lipstick on a pig is beyond me

    or...they are all so intertwined they will do anything to save their own asses...that includes propping up a turd
     
    Vermeer
    Vermeer
    Veteran
    Participation Meter
    Joined: Dec, 2006
    Posts: 2910
    Posted: Sep. 12, 2007 - 10:15 AM ET #94

    Exactly why it would be dangerous to short them...too many interests in play colluding to prop them up.

    CRDC has this out today:

    Cardica, Inc. today announced that it has received European CE Mark (Conformite Europeenne) approval for the C-Port(R) Flex A Anastomosis System. The C-Port Flex A system is a variation of Cardica's C-Port(R) xA Distal Anastomosis System product line and further facilitates the automated anastomosis, or attachment of blood vessels and grafts, during less invasive coronary artery bypass graft (CABG) procedures. Recently, two independent groups of leading cardiothoracic surgeons in the U.S. performed minimally invasive, closed-chest bypass procedures using Cardica's C-Port Flex A Anastomosis System and Intuitive Surgical's da Vinci(R) Surgical System.

    "We are pleased that the European authorities have approved the use of the Flex A. We continue to receive positive feedback from cardiothoracic surgeons in the U.S. who are using the C-Port Flex A to perform ground-breaking closed- chest and beating heart procedures," said Bernard A. Hausen, M.D., Ph.D., president and chief executive officer of Cardica, Inc. "The C-Port Flex A is designed to enable surgeons to create compliant, reliable anastomoses in sternum-sparing bypass procedures, even in difficult to reach areas of the heart."


    Reply
    Exactly why it would be dangerous to short them...too many interests in play colluding to prop them up.

    CRDC has this out today:

    Cardica, Inc. today announced that it has received European CE Mark (Conformite Europeenne) approval for the C-Port(R) Flex A Anastomosis System. The C-Port Flex A system is a variation of Cardica's C-Port(R) xA Distal Anastomosis System product line and further facilitates the automated anastomosis, or attachment of blood vessels and grafts, during less invasive coronary artery bypass graft (CABG) procedures. Recently, two independent groups of leading cardiothoracic surgeons in the U.S. performed minimally invasive, closed-chest bypass procedures using Cardica's C-Port Flex A Anastomosis System and Intuitive Surgical's da Vinci(R) Surgical System.

    "We are pleased that the European authorities have approved the use of the Flex A. We continue to receive positive feedback from cardiothoracic surgeons in the U.S. who are using the C-Port Flex A to perform ground-breaking closed- chest and beating heart procedures," said Bernard A. Hausen, M.D., Ph.D., president and chief executive officer of Cardica, Inc. "The C-Port Flex A is designed to enable surgeons to create compliant, reliable anastomoses in sternum-sparing bypass procedures, even in difficult to reach areas of the heart."


     
    wallstreetcappers
    wallstreetcappers
    Covers Linesmen
    Participation Meter
    Joined: Feb, 2003
    Posts: 58464
    Posted: Sep. 12, 2007 - 11:23 AM ET #95

    Vermeer,

    Yep...I see the nice move today, and screw me for selling because of some stupid analyst...


    Reply
    Vermeer,

    Yep...I see the nice move today, and screw me for selling because of some stupid analyst...


     
    Vermeer
    Vermeer
    Veteran
    Participation Meter
    Joined: Dec, 2006
    Posts: 2910
    Posted: Sep. 12, 2007 - 11:48 AM ET #96

    Ah is going back down...this will continue to be volatile obviously...I think it is a solid play longer term,  too many very favorable comments by surgeons who have used it.This drew my notice at the end of that article:

    "We believe the C-Port Flex A system brings us several steps closer to the possibility of performing truly minimally invasive cardiac surgery with significant benefits for the patient due to less trauma and a faster recovery time compared to a traditional open heart bypass procedure," stated Stefano Demertzis, M.D., Ph.D., senior cardiac surgeon at Cardiocentro Ticino in Lugano, Switzerland.

      Of course others will benefit from variations, but this does seem to be something that surgeons will certainly be asking about.
    Reply
    Ah is going back down...this will continue to be volatile obviously...I think it is a solid play longer term,  too many very favorable comments by surgeons who have used it.This drew my notice at the end of that article:

    "We believe the C-Port Flex A system brings us several steps closer to the possibility of performing truly minimally invasive cardiac surgery with significant benefits for the patient due to less trauma and a faster recovery time compared to a traditional open heart bypass procedure," stated Stefano Demertzis, M.D., Ph.D., senior cardiac surgeon at Cardiocentro Ticino in Lugano, Switzerland.

      Of course others will benefit from variations, but this does seem to be something that surgeons will certainly be asking about.
     
    wallstreetcappers
    wallstreetcappers
    Covers Linesmen
    Participation Meter
    Joined: Feb, 2003
    Posts: 58464
    Posted: Sep. 12, 2007 - 12:23 PM ET #97

    Yeah I agree with you, but it could take some time before it becomes a larger return..but given the interesting nature of the product it might be worth holding for a year knowing it will pan out longer term.

    RMBS hit 17 today..another swing and a miss on my part.  
    Reply
    Yeah I agree with you, but it could take some time before it becomes a larger return..but given the interesting nature of the product it might be worth holding for a year knowing it will pan out longer term.

    RMBS hit 17 today..another swing and a miss on my part.  
     
    Vermeer
    Vermeer
    Veteran
    Participation Meter
    Joined: Dec, 2006
    Posts: 2910
    Posted: Sep. 12, 2007 - 12:37 PM ET #98

     The small float number that you mentioned on CRDC is certainly a supporting factor.

     On other issues, crude going up, and I continue to read weird info regarding gasoline inventories.Supply not there.

     For some reason, I have just a gut feeling that Bernanke is going to surprise the market with only a 25 basis point cut.I do not think this will go voer well at all, as people are already assuming double that. Purely a hunch, I just get the sense Ben is going to make sure people realize Greenspan is in fact retired. anyone else get this feeling?

    Reply
     The small float number that you mentioned on CRDC is certainly a supporting factor.

     On other issues, crude going up, and I continue to read weird info regarding gasoline inventories.Supply not there.

     For some reason, I have just a gut feeling that Bernanke is going to surprise the market with only a 25 basis point cut.I do not think this will go voer well at all, as people are already assuming double that. Purely a hunch, I just get the sense Ben is going to make sure people realize Greenspan is in fact retired. anyone else get this feeling?

     
    wallstreetcappers
    wallstreetcappers
    Covers Linesmen
    Participation Meter
    Joined: Feb, 2003
    Posts: 58464
    Posted: Sep. 12, 2007 - 12:45 PM ET #99

    A 25 basis cut is a bad thing for the market, a 50 basis cut is bad too..i dont think any cut is good for the market.

    A 25 cut means the FED doesnt really view the situation as that bad, or that they wont be cutting much going forward, market doesnt like that.

    A 50 cut means things are terrible and the FED is worried, not good for the market.

    The problem is I dont think the FED cutting is going to solve anything..the government and the FED allowed things to get out of control with the housing market and mortgage disasters, now we have to live with it..and cutting the FED funds really does not address these issues.
    Reply
    A 25 basis cut is a bad thing for the market, a 50 basis cut is bad too..i dont think any cut is good for the market.

    A 25 cut means the FED doesnt really view the situation as that bad, or that they wont be cutting much going forward, market doesnt like that.

    A 50 cut means things are terrible and the FED is worried, not good for the market.

    The problem is I dont think the FED cutting is going to solve anything..the government and the FED allowed things to get out of control with the housing market and mortgage disasters, now we have to live with it..and cutting the FED funds really does not address these issues.
     
     
    Vermeer
    Vermeer
    Veteran
    Participation Meter
    Joined: Dec, 2006
    Posts: 2910
    Posted: Sep. 12, 2007 - 1:20 PM ET #100

    Oh I agree philosophically, and materially, but just from a short term trading point of view is what I am talking about.I think really that Bernanke thinks like we do in macroeconomic terms and is reluctant to give in to the street's demands for a rate cut. From what I have read he opposed Greenspan's excesses regarding rate cuts.But I think he has to bend here; I just think he bends as little as possible to get a point across.
    Reply
    Oh I agree philosophically, and materially, but just from a short term trading point of view is what I am talking about.I think really that Bernanke thinks like we do in macroeconomic terms and is reluctant to give in to the street's demands for a rate cut. From what I have read he opposed Greenspan's excesses regarding rate cuts.But I think he has to bend here; I just think he bends as little as possible to get a point across.
    All Forums | Investments
    «First Previous 12345 Next Last»

    Hot Forums IconHot Forum Topics

    • Tuesday 11/10/2026 353
    • BEAT Your book 127,560
    • 🏈🏈🏈 Fubah2's risky CFB bets 300,746
    • I'm embarrassed for Trump supporters 63,593
    • $$ALL IN ( 2x5uNIT=1-O,5UnitUNDER=4-2,5Unit over=1-O,5Unit ATS=2-O,2Unit=4-o_ =+ 43 Units 5,908
    • Florida Man Tuesday 4,356
    • *EdgeHunter Ohio VS Miami Ohio - NEW WEEK, NEW MONEY!* 3,022
    • Bags Tuesday LARGE **Michigan State vs Duke** 2,385
    • Trump's legacy? 37,171
    • PART DEUX 86

    Warning - External Link

    Report User

    Thank you for reporting
    This content is abusive or harmful
    This post is spam
    An error has occurred
    This site is protected by reCAPTCHA and the Google Privacy Policy and Terms of Service apply.

    Delete Post

    Are you sure you would like to remove this post?

    Remove Thread

    Are you sure you would like to remove this thread?

    Scan Results

    Login/Register

    Happy to have you join the conversation. To do so, please login or create an account.
    Accounts are free and easy to create.

    Search


    Loading…

    Loading…

    About Us
    Contact Us
    Careers
    Our Team
    Brand
    Testimonials
    Betting Guides
    Sportsbook Reviews
    Betting News
    Podcasts
    Responsible Gambling
    Betting Sites
    US Betting Sites
    Canada Betting Sites
    Canada Casinos
    Best Betting Apps
    Contests
    Streak Survivor
    King of Covers
    Office Pools
    The Covers community has
    810,221
    lifetime members worldwide
    Join our community today
    Covers 30 Years Logo Established in 1995,
    Covers is the world
    leader in sports
    betting information.
    21+
    Gambling problem? Call 1-800-GAMBLER
    Help Privacy Privacy Choices Terms of Service Cookies Sitemap Forum
    YouTube logo
    Facebook logo
    Twitter logo
    Instagram logo
    LinkedIn logo
    Google News logo
    Covers is verified safe by:
    Evalon Logo Logo GPWA Logo GDPR logo Logo GeoTrust logo Logo
    Covers Logo
    Copyright © 1995 - 2026 Genius Sports. All Rights Reserved.
    If you choose to make use of any information on this website including online sports betting services from any websites that may be featured on this website, we strongly recommend that you carefully check your local laws before doing so.It is your sole responsibility to understand your local laws and observe them strictly.Covers does not provide any advice or guidance as to the legality of online sports betting or other online gambling activities within your jurisdiction and you are responsible for complying with laws that are applicable to you in your relevant locality.Covers disclaims all liability associated with your use of this website and use of any information contained on it.As a condition of using this website, you agree to hold the owner of this website harmless from any claims arising from your use of any services on any third party website that may be featured by Covers.