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    QE3

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    TILTOLOGIC
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    Posted: Apr. 27, 2011 - 10:04 PM ET #1


    and just like that gold shoots up another 20 bucks an oz.

    https://www.cnbc.com/id/42784181

    gold is now roughly 1530 an oz.   


    This party hasn't even started yet either.  Hard to believe I know


    If anybody tells you that the Fed is gonna turn on the vacuum (raise interest rates)any time soon, aka before 2013-2014ish, remember who they are, and never listen to them again.


    Godspeed.

     















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    To remove first post, remove entire topic.

    and just like that gold shoots up another 20 bucks an oz.

    https://www.cnbc.com/id/42784181

    gold is now roughly 1530 an oz.   


    This party hasn't even started yet either.  Hard to believe I know


    If anybody tells you that the Fed is gonna turn on the vacuum (raise interest rates)any time soon, aka before 2013-2014ish, remember who they are, and never listen to them again.


    Godspeed.

     















     
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    Posted: Apr. 28, 2011 - 12:48 AM ET #2

    2013-2014 ?   You must be kidding.

    Some in the Fed are already calling for higher interest rates.  Expect a hike sometime in 2012 if things continue at their current pace...  especially if jobs pick up over the coming months.
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    2013-2014 ?   You must be kidding.

    Some in the Fed are already calling for higher interest rates.  Expect a hike sometime in 2012 if things continue at their current pace...  especially if jobs pick up over the coming months.
     
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rush51:

    2013-2014 ?   You must be kidding.

    Some in the Fed are already calling for higher interest rates.  Expect a hike sometime in 2012 if things continue at their current pace...  especially if jobs pick up over the coming months.

    I question if you understand what you are talking about. 

    There is an election to be had first.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rush51:

    2013-2014 ?   You must be kidding.

    Some in the Fed are already calling for higher interest rates.  Expect a hike sometime in 2012 if things continue at their current pace...  especially if jobs pick up over the coming months.

    I question if you understand what you are talking about. 

    There is an election to be had first.

     
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    Posted: Apr. 28, 2011 - 6:30 PM ET #4

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    not one person knows what's going to happen and it's because there is no one in this world that knows how to solve the challenges the US are going through.  Only thing we know is the US is too big to fail and they will continue to throw money at the economy until it picks up again.


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    not one person knows what's going to happen and it's because there is no one in this world that knows how to solve the challenges the US are going through.  Only thing we know is the US is too big to fail and they will continue to throw money at the economy until it picks up again.


     
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    Quote Originally Posted by TILTOLOGIC:


    I question if you understand what you are talking about. 

    There is an election to be had first.



    Our Community-organizer-in-chief does not control the FED.

    It's his decision to set Economic Policy and steer the Economy.... Not the Pres. 


    Let's start with the basics.  




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    Quote Originally Posted by TILTOLOGIC:


    I question if you understand what you are talking about. 

    There is an election to be had first.



    Our Community-organizer-in-chief does not control the FED.

    It's his decision to set Economic Policy and steer the Economy.... Not the Pres. 


    Let's start with the basics.  




     
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    Posted: Apr. 29, 2011 - 3:54 AM ET #7

    Quote Originally Posted by Rush51:



    Our Community-organizer-in-chief does not control the FED.

    It's his decision to set Economic Policy and steer the Economy.... Not the Pres. 


    Let's start with the basics.  





    Now you are just being naive, and you have gall to say start with the basics all while you prove with each post your ignorance. Get out of my thread. Gotta have a clue to be in here.

    I don't think you understand the cause and effect relationship one iota now. As a matter of fact I'm convinced. 
     

    Don't worry I'll be here to bump this
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rush51:



    Our Community-organizer-in-chief does not control the FED.

    It's his decision to set Economic Policy and steer the Economy.... Not the Pres. 


    Let's start with the basics.  





    Now you are just being naive, and you have gall to say start with the basics all while you prove with each post your ignorance. Get out of my thread. Gotta have a clue to be in here.

    I don't think you understand the cause and effect relationship one iota now. As a matter of fact I'm convinced. 
     

    Don't worry I'll be here to bump this
     
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    Let's look at the title of your thread to show you really don't have a clue; ..  "QE3"

    If you'd been paying any attention this week, you would know that the FED is planning on winding down Bond Purchases in June.... effectively ending QE2 !! 

    There are no plans for QE3.  The FED is transitioning from stimulating the economy, to deciding when to increase interest rates.

     

     

     

    Feel free to do some deeper reading on the subject... Knowledge is your friend.   

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    Let's look at the title of your thread to show you really don't have a clue; ..  "QE3"

    If you'd been paying any attention this week, you would know that the FED is planning on winding down Bond Purchases in June.... effectively ending QE2 !! 

    There are no plans for QE3.  The FED is transitioning from stimulating the economy, to deciding when to increase interest rates.

     

     

     

    Feel free to do some deeper reading on the subject... Knowledge is your friend.   

     
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    well, i think the FED has actually stated that they will "roll the proceeds" from the Quantum easings of christmas past, back into fresh bond purchases, but i am not certain

    either way, rates have been dropping

    i guess that means that (now i hope you're sitting down, this is a real shocker) what they say, and what actually happens are two different things

    Buying treasuries to loosen credit, would suggest that they believe the problem to be that credit is too expensive.  But now that we have some actual evidence to consume, it appears that in this deflationary environment, that the FED actions have caused interest rates to be artificially HIGH!  And now that they are slowing their 'printing' and purchasing, rates are dropping on their own

    IMAGINE THAT
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    well, i think the FED has actually stated that they will "roll the proceeds" from the Quantum easings of christmas past, back into fresh bond purchases, but i am not certain

    either way, rates have been dropping

    i guess that means that (now i hope you're sitting down, this is a real shocker) what they say, and what actually happens are two different things

    Buying treasuries to loosen credit, would suggest that they believe the problem to be that credit is too expensive.  But now that we have some actual evidence to consume, it appears that in this deflationary environment, that the FED actions have caused interest rates to be artificially HIGH!  And now that they are slowing their 'printing' and purchasing, rates are dropping on their own

    IMAGINE THAT
     
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    Posted: Apr. 30, 2011 - 10:13 PM ET #10

    When QE2 ends, it could be a big event.  Just listen to the words of Bill Gross, when he says  $1.5T worth of check writing per year by the FED basically disappears."   Bill Gross... aka the Bond King...  oversees the $1.2T Portfolio of PIMCO.... and yes that's Trillion..

    It could mean an end to the roaring rally experienced by stocks..

    When the training-wheels come off the bike... no one really knows what's going to happen.
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    When QE2 ends, it could be a big event.  Just listen to the words of Bill Gross, when he says  $1.5T worth of check writing per year by the FED basically disappears."   Bill Gross... aka the Bond King...  oversees the $1.2T Portfolio of PIMCO.... and yes that's Trillion..

    It could mean an end to the roaring rally experienced by stocks..

    When the training-wheels come off the bike... no one really knows what's going to happen.
     
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    I was actually waiting to see if Mr. Intelligence here (Rush) 
     could actually post something that was even in the realm of possibility. But since we just got the same old worthless crap I decided to make it easy for you. 


    You need to understand that our Government will do everything it possibly can to steer clear of any sort of avoidable economic pain right now. 

    You obviously don't understand this.  If you did, you wouldn't post stupid shit like this:

     When QE2 ends, it could be a big event.  Just listen to the words of Bill Gross, when he says  $1.5T worth of check writing per year by the FED basically disappears."   Bill Gross... aka the Bond King...  oversees the $1.2T Portfolio of PIMCO.... and yes that's Trillion.. 

    It could mean an end to the roaring rally experienced by stocks.. 

    When the training-wheels come off the bike... no one really knows what's going to happen.


    The fact that you actually think they allow an environment like this, to exist in any way, shape, or form, proves to me you don't understand anything that you speak of. So much so, that I think you need to leave my thread.  


    Thank you
















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    I was actually waiting to see if Mr. Intelligence here (Rush) 
     could actually post something that was even in the realm of possibility. But since we just got the same old worthless crap I decided to make it easy for you. 


    You need to understand that our Government will do everything it possibly can to steer clear of any sort of avoidable economic pain right now. 

    You obviously don't understand this.  If you did, you wouldn't post stupid shit like this:

     When QE2 ends, it could be a big event.  Just listen to the words of Bill Gross, when he says  $1.5T worth of check writing per year by the FED basically disappears."   Bill Gross... aka the Bond King...  oversees the $1.2T Portfolio of PIMCO.... and yes that's Trillion.. 

    It could mean an end to the roaring rally experienced by stocks.. 

    When the training-wheels come off the bike... no one really knows what's going to happen.


    The fact that you actually think they allow an environment like this, to exist in any way, shape, or form, proves to me you don't understand anything that you speak of. So much so, that I think you need to leave my thread.  


    Thank you
















     
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    Posted: May. 2, 2011 - 11:01 AM ET #12

    Tilt, I have to agree with you.   They don't even need to physically print money any more.  They just create it out of nothing and give it to their cronies.  Why would they stop doing this? 
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    Tilt, I have to agree with you.   They don't even need to physically print money any more.  They just create it out of nothing and give it to their cronies.  Why would they stop doing this? 
     
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    Quote Originally Posted by TILTOLOGIC:

    I was actually waiting to see if Mr. Intelligence here (Rush) 
     could actually post something that was even in the realm of possibility. But since we just got the same old worthless crap I decided to make it easy for you. 


    You need to understand that our Government will do everything it possibly can to steer clear of any sort of avoidable economic pain right now. 

    You obviously don't understand this.  If you did, you wouldn't post stupid shit like this:

     When QE2 ends, it could be a big event.  Just listen to the words of Bill Gross, when he says  $1.5T worth of check writing per year by the FED basically disappears."   Bill Gross... aka the Bond King...  oversees the $1.2T Portfolio of PIMCO.... and yes that's Trillion.. 

    It could mean an end to the roaring rally experienced by stocks.. 

    When the training-wheels come off the bike... no one really knows what's going to happen.


    The fact that you actually think they allow an environment like this, to exist in any way, shape, or form, proves to me you don't understand anything that you speak of. So much so, that I think you need to leave my thread.  


    Thank you


















    Go re-read post #8.  I don't know where you get your information, but odds are Quantitative Easing ends in June.

    Seek a new source of information.  You are a confused individual.

         QE3....  
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    Quote Originally Posted by TILTOLOGIC:

    I was actually waiting to see if Mr. Intelligence here (Rush) 
     could actually post something that was even in the realm of possibility. But since we just got the same old worthless crap I decided to make it easy for you. 


    You need to understand that our Government will do everything it possibly can to steer clear of any sort of avoidable economic pain right now. 

    You obviously don't understand this.  If you did, you wouldn't post stupid shit like this:

     When QE2 ends, it could be a big event.  Just listen to the words of Bill Gross, when he says  $1.5T worth of check writing per year by the FED basically disappears."   Bill Gross... aka the Bond King...  oversees the $1.2T Portfolio of PIMCO.... and yes that's Trillion.. 

    It could mean an end to the roaring rally experienced by stocks.. 

    When the training-wheels come off the bike... no one really knows what's going to happen.


    The fact that you actually think they allow an environment like this, to exist in any way, shape, or form, proves to me you don't understand anything that you speak of. So much so, that I think you need to leave my thread.  


    Thank you


















    Go re-read post #8.  I don't know where you get your information, but odds are Quantitative Easing ends in June.

    Seek a new source of information.  You are a confused individual.

         QE3....  
     
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    Of course the Feds are going to want to walk us back out as soon as possible. They will try to exit, but it will fail, and fail miserably. And when QE3 begins (in whatever shape or form they make it this time), the dollar will begin another giant slide.

    Also,  the GOP/Tea party screams for austerity  increase the likelihood of long-term budget cuts. Thank you Paul Ryan which also means interest rates may hold longer than expected. If a major budget deal goes down,  it won't mean cheap money forever, but it will change the Fed's strategy for how to keep the recovery going. That you can count on


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    Of course the Feds are going to want to walk us back out as soon as possible. They will try to exit, but it will fail, and fail miserably. And when QE3 begins (in whatever shape or form they make it this time), the dollar will begin another giant slide.

    Also,  the GOP/Tea party screams for austerity  increase the likelihood of long-term budget cuts. Thank you Paul Ryan which also means interest rates may hold longer than expected. If a major budget deal goes down,  it won't mean cheap money forever, but it will change the Fed's strategy for how to keep the recovery going. That you can count on


     
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    Posted: May. 13, 2011 - 6:33 AM ET #15

    How many QE's are we going to have?
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    How many QE's are we going to have?
     
    Rush51
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    Posted: May. 13, 2011 - 10:28 PM ET #16

    'Gamble, we likely end the Quantitative Easing with QE2 this June.    The FED has pumped unprecedented amounts of $ into the system to stave off deflation with QE1 and QE2.... and appears to have achieved that objective.  Now, it will have to tackle the looming problem of inflation in the months &  years ahead. 

    The FED starts to tighten its policy by effectively ending QE2 in June, and will likely take a more active role increasing interest rates sometime in 2012 to fight inflation.

    Last month's jobs number only gives the FED more ammo that it will need to wind down its easy money policy soon.






     ....But I do have to hand it to 'Tilt.   He does  provide some good entertainment & storytelling for all of us.

    QE3...   









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    'Gamble, we likely end the Quantitative Easing with QE2 this June.    The FED has pumped unprecedented amounts of $ into the system to stave off deflation with QE1 and QE2.... and appears to have achieved that objective.  Now, it will have to tackle the looming problem of inflation in the months &  years ahead. 

    The FED starts to tighten its policy by effectively ending QE2 in June, and will likely take a more active role increasing interest rates sometime in 2012 to fight inflation.

    Last month's jobs number only gives the FED more ammo that it will need to wind down its easy money policy soon.






     ....But I do have to hand it to 'Tilt.   He does  provide some good entertainment & storytelling for all of us.

    QE3...   









     
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    Posted: May. 13, 2011 - 11:14 PM ET #17

    Rush do you have any original thoughts on this?  

    I staked my position very clearly.  They will try and do exactly what you said in #16 and it will fail miserably.  And they will have no choice but to start round 3, and that round 3 will look differently but ultimately serve the same purpose.  Why? For the reasons I stated above and numerous others.  

    Jobs report? Must of missed the fact that almost a third of those jobs last months were from McDonald's...come on bro 

    I want original thoughts bro, or are you the  anti obama/teabagger mouth-breathing fool, you come across as? I'll give you the benefit of the doubt. But you do come across awfully dim-witted. Maybe if you formed an opinion of your own, it wouldn't seem that way. All I see is the shit every joe blow can read on any financial news site.  

    Don't worry rush, I'm the type that does like to spike the football, and I will in due time.

    Best of luck, and FWIW, I hope i'm wrong too....but i'm not


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    Rush do you have any original thoughts on this?  

    I staked my position very clearly.  They will try and do exactly what you said in #16 and it will fail miserably.  And they will have no choice but to start round 3, and that round 3 will look differently but ultimately serve the same purpose.  Why? For the reasons I stated above and numerous others.  

    Jobs report? Must of missed the fact that almost a third of those jobs last months were from McDonald's...come on bro 

    I want original thoughts bro, or are you the  anti obama/teabagger mouth-breathing fool, you come across as? I'll give you the benefit of the doubt. But you do come across awfully dim-witted. Maybe if you formed an opinion of your own, it wouldn't seem that way. All I see is the shit every joe blow can read on any financial news site.  

    Don't worry rush, I'm the type that does like to spike the football, and I will in due time.

    Best of luck, and FWIW, I hope i'm wrong too....but i'm not


     
     
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    Posted: May. 15, 2011 - 4:28 PM ET #18

    An awfully bold statement considering you're the one going against the grain, and  sticking his 'nuts out on this.






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    An awfully bold statement considering you're the one going against the grain, and  sticking his 'nuts out on this.






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