• Forums
  • Best Betting Sites
  • Sportsbook Promos
  • Best Sports Betting Apps
  • NFL Betting Forum
  • NBA Betting Forum
  • MLB Betting Forum
  • NHL Betting Forum
  • NCAAF Betting Forum
  • NCAAB Betting Forum
  • Soccer Betting Forum
  • Tennis Betting Forum
  • General Discussion
  • Help Forum
  • Guidelines
  • FAQ
  • Forum Updates
    Covers Logo
    Covers App
    Faster picks. Smarter bets.
    All in the NEW Covers App
    Download on the App Store Download on the Google Play Store
    • Sports
      • NFL
        • Back
        • NFL
        • NFL Home
        • Scores & Matchups
        • Prop Projections
        • NFL Picks
        • NFL Prediction Prices
        • Weather
        • Injuries
      • NCAAF
        • Back
        • NCAAF
        • NCAAF Home
        • Scores & Matchups
        • Prop Projections
        • NCAAF Picks
        • Weather
        • Injuries
      • NBA
        • Back
        • NBA
        • NBA Home
        • Scores & Matchups
        • Prop Projections
        • NBA Picks
        • Injuries
      • NCAAB
        • Back
        • NCAAB
        • NCAAB Home
        • Scores & Matchups
        • NCAAB Picks
        • Injuries
      • MLB
        • Back
        • MLB
        • MLB Home
        • Scores & Matchups
        • Prop Projections
        • MLB Picks
        • Weather
        • Injuries
      • NHL
        • Back
        • NHL
        • NHL Home
        • Scores & Matchups
        • Prop Projections
        • NHL Picks
        • Injuries
      • Soccer
      • UFC
        • Back
        • UFC
        • Odds
        • Picks
        • News & Analysis
      • WNBA
        • Back
        • WNBA
        • WNBA Home
        • Scores & Matchups
        • WNBA Picks
        • Injuries
      • CFL
        • Back
        • CFL
        • CFL Home
        • Scores & Matchups
        • CFL Picks
      • Golf
        • Back
        • Golf
        • Golf Home
        • Golf Odds
        • Masters Odds
        • PGA Championship Odds
        • US Open Odds
        • British Open Odds
        • Ryder Cup Odds
        • Golf Picks
    • Odds
      • All Odds
      • NFL
      • NCAAF
      • NBA
      • NCAAB
      • MLB
      • NHL
      • Golf
      • Soccer Odds
        • Back
        • Soccer Odds
        • MLS Odds
        • Champions League Odds
        • Premier League Odds
      • UFC
      • WNBA
      • CFL
      • Election Odds
      • Futures
        • Back
        • Futures
        • NFL
        • NBA
        • MLB
        • NHL
        • NCAAB
        • NCAAF
      • Sports Odds History
      • Politics
        • Back
        • Politics
        • Politics Home
        • Presidential Election Odds
        • Midterm Election Odds
        • House Midterm Odds
        • Senate Midterm Odds
        • Texas Midterm Odds
        • Michigan Midterm Odds
    • Picks
      • All Picks
      • NFL
      • NBA
      • NHL
      • MLB
      • NCAAF
      • NCAAB
      • UFC
      • Golf
      • WNBA
      • CFL
      • User Picks
      • Team User Picks
      • Consensus Picks
        • Back
        • Consensus Picks
        • All Consensus Picks
        • NFL
        • NBA
        • NHL
        • MLB
        • NCAAF
        • NCAAB
        • CFL
        • WNBA
        • Consensus FAQ
        • Public Money
    • Prop Projections
      • NFL
      • NBA
      • MLB
      • NHL
    • Betting
      • US Betting Sites
      • Canada Betting Sites
      • Sportsbook Reviews
      • States
        • Back
        • States
        • US Legal Tracker
        • Revenue Tracker
        • Arizona
        • Arkansas
        • California
        • Colorado
        • Connecticut
        • DC
        • Florida
        • Georgia
        • Illinois
        • Indiana
        • Iowa
        • Kansas
        • Kentucky
        • Louisiana
        • Maine
        • Maryland
        • Massachusetts
        • Michigan
        • Mississippi
        • Missouri
        • Nevada
        • New Hampshire
        • New Jersey
        • New York
        • North Carolina
        • Ohio
        • Oregon
        • Pennsylvania
        • Tennessee
        • Texas
        • Vermont
        • Virginia
        • West Virginia
        • Wyoming
      • Provinces
        • Back
        • Provinces
        • Alberta
        • British Columbia
        • Manitoba
        • New Brunswick
        • Newfoundland and Labrador
        • Northwest Territories
        • Nova Scotia
        • Nunavut
        • Ontario
        • Prince Edward Island
        • Quebec (English)
        • Quebec (francais)
        • Saskatchewan
        • Yukon
      • By Sport
        • Back
        • By Sport
        • Baseball
        • Basketball
        • Boxing
        • College Football
        • F1
        • Football
        • Super Bowl
        • Golf
        • Hockey
        • Horse Racing
        • March Madness
        • Soccer
        • UFC
        • World Cup
      • Betting Apps
        • Back
        • Betting Apps
        • Best Sports Betting Apps USA
        • Ontario Sports Betting Apps
      • Rest of World
        • Back
        • Rest of World
        • UK Betting Offers
          • Back
          • UK Betting Offers
          • UK Betting Sites
          • bet365 Bonus Code UK
          • 888Sport Promo Code UK
          • William Hill Sign up Offer
          • Betway Sign up Offer
          • BetVictor Bonus Code UK
      • Betting Guides
        • Back
        • Betting Guides
        • All Guides
        • Glossary
        • Betting Calculators
          • Back
          • Betting Calculators
          • Odds Converter
          • Parlay Calculator
        • Futures Betting Guide
        • Moneyline Betting Guide
        • Over/Under Betting Guide
        • Parlay Betting Guide
        • Point Spread Betting Guide
        • Prop Betting Guide
        • Sports Betting Guides
          • Back
          • Sports Betting Guides
          • How To Bet On Sports Guide
          • NFL Betting Guide
          • NHL Betting Guide
          • NBA Betting Guide
          • MLB Betting Guide
          • NCAAB Betting Guide
          • NCAAF Betting Guide
          • Golf Betting Guide
          • Tennis Betting Guide
        • Teaser Betting Guide
      • Betting News
        • Back
        • Betting News
        • All News
        • Industry News
        • Podcasts
        • Covers Videos
        • Covers Writers
        • Offers & Boosts
    • Promos
      • Sportsbook Promos
      • Canada Sportsbook Promos
      • Bonuses By Sportsbook
        • Back
        • Bonuses By Sportsbook
        • bet365 Bonus Code
        • BET99 Promo Code
        • BetMGM Bonus Code
        • BetRivers Bonus Code
        • Caesars Sportsbook Promo
        • DraftKings Promo Code
        • Fanatics Sportsbook Promo
        • FanDuel Promo Code
        • Hard Rock Bet Promo Code
        • Sports Interaction Promo
        • Stake Promo Code
        • theScore Bet Promo Code
        • TonyBet Promo Code
      • Bonuses By Region
        • Back
        • Bonuses By Region
        • Arkansas Promos
        • Arizona Promos
        • Colorado Promos
        • Connecticut Promos
        • DC Promos
        • Illinois Promos
        • Indiana Promos
        • Iowa Promos
        • Kansas Promos
        • Kentucky Promos
        • Louisiana Promos
        • Maine Promos
        • Maryland Promos
        • Massachusetts Promos
        • Michigan Promos
        • Missouri Promos
        • New Jersey Promos
        • New York Promos
        • North Carolina Promos
        • Ohio Promos
        • Pennsylvania Promos
        • Tennessee Promos
        • Vermont Promos
        • Virginia Promos
        • West Virginia Promos
        • Wyoming Promos
    • Forum & Contests
      • All Forums
      • NFL Betting Forum
      • MLB Betting Forum
      • NCAAB Betting Forum
      • NCAAF Betting Forum
      • NBA Betting Forum
      • NHL Betting Forum
      • Soccer Betting Forum
      • Contests
        • Back
        • Contests
        • Contests Home
        • Streak Survivor
        • King of Covers
        • My Contests
    • Casino
      • Sweepstakes Casino
        • Back
        • Sweepstakes Casino
        • Sweepstakes Casino
        • Sweepstakes No-Deposit Bonuses
        • Sweepstakes Promos
          • Back
          • Sweepstakes Promos
          • Crown Coins Promo Code
          • FreeSpin Casino Promo Code
          • Jackpota Promo Code
          • LoneStar Promo Code
          • McLuck Promo Code
          • NoLimitCoins Promo Code
          • Rainbet.us Promo Code
          • RealPrize Promo Code
          • Splash Coins Promo Code
          • Stake.us Promo Code
      • US Casinos
        • Back
        • US Casinos
        • US Online Casinos
        • US Online Casino Bonuses
        • Casino Promos
          • Back
          • Casino Promos
          • bet365 Casino Promo Code
          • BetMGM Casino Promo Code
          • BetRivers Casino Promo
          • Borgata Casino Bonus Code
          • Caesars Casino Bonus Code
          • DraftKings Casino Promo
          • Fanatics Casino Promo
          • FanDuel Casino Promo Code
          • Golden Nugget Casino Promo
          • Hard Rock Bet Casino Promo
          • Hollywood Casino Promo Code
      • Canada Casinos
        • Back
        • Canada Casinos
        • Canada Online Casinos
        • Provinces
          • Back
          • Provinces
          • Alberta Online Casino
          • BC Online Casino
          • Ontario Online Casinos
        • Casino Promos
          • Back
          • Casino Promos
          • 7Bit Promo Code
          • BC.GAME Bonus Code
          • BitStarz Promo Code
          • Jack Casino Promo Code
          • JackpotCity Promo Code
          • Rainbet Promo Code
          • Roobet Promo Code
          • Shuffle Promo Code
          • Spin Casino Promo Code
          • TonyBet Casino Bonus Code
    • Prediction Markets
      • Prediction Markets
      • Prediction Market Apps
      • Prediction Market Promos
      • Kalshi Promo Code
      • Kalshi Referral Code
      • Polymarket Promo Code
      • Polymarket Referral Code
      • FanDuel Predicts Promo Code
      • Gemini Predictions Promo Code
      • Novig Promo Code
      • Underdog Promo Code
      • ProphetX Promo Code
      • OG Promo Code
      • Plus500 Promo Code
      • Betr Promo Code
      • DraftKings Predictions Promo Code
      • Fanatics Markets Promo Code
    • NFL Week 10
      NFL Week 10
      • NFL Odds
      • NFL Picks
      • Commanders-Giants Picks
      • Week 10 Survivor Picks
      • NFL Prediction Markets
      • NFL Betting Sites
    Covers Account
    Log in Create account
    Join free Log in
    All Forums | Investments

    Paging Wallstreet - Roth IRA eligibility question

    HutchEmAll
    wallstreetcappers
    Participants:
    Search
    Views: 190
    Posts: 6
     
    HutchEmAll
    HutchEmAll
    Legend
    Participation Meter
    Joined: Jan, 2004
    Posts: 38704
    Posted: Jan. 29, 2008 - 6:27 PM ET #1

    Wallstreet-
     
    I'm in no man's land when it comes to eligibility to contribute to a roth this year (with gross income on my W-2, I qualify for a PARTIAL contribution right now). 
     
    Since I've already made my entire contribution for 2007 (I do it on E-Trade), I'm going to have to back part of it out.  It was stupid, but I really thought I would be able to contribute the whole amount this year....a pretty significant gross up on a bonus killed me (it will really help me tax-wise, but it obviously hurt roth-wise).
     
    Anyway, I'm waiting for my K-1 report to file my taxes.  My questions is this:  Will any business income from this K-1 report needed to be factored into my Roth IRA eligibility calculation?  We're an S-Corp...two owners...I'm minority.  We have largely been socking away our earnings (in addition to paying ourselves).  In other words, we haven't been skimming huge $'s...and we have a good amount of $ in the bank (which we have already been taxed on).  We spent a lot last year on some expansion stuff so we didn't have a lot of net income.  This year, it will be a bit different (I don't have final numbers yet).
     
    Anyway, I want to get this Roth thing straightened out, but don't want to start screwing around with it if my K-1 is going to have an effect on it. 
     
    Is it best just to wait for the report and then see where I'm at or can I calculate my partial contribution based on the gross income figures I have in front of me right now?
     
    I tried to look on-line and my tax guy is gone until next Monday....this is really bothering me (having illegal contribution money in my Roth account).  I'd like to get it taken care of as soon as possible.
     
    Any help would be appreciated.  .
     
    Reply
    To remove first post, remove entire topic.
    Wallstreet-
     
    I'm in no man's land when it comes to eligibility to contribute to a roth this year (with gross income on my W-2, I qualify for a PARTIAL contribution right now). 
     
    Since I've already made my entire contribution for 2007 (I do it on E-Trade), I'm going to have to back part of it out.  It was stupid, but I really thought I would be able to contribute the whole amount this year....a pretty significant gross up on a bonus killed me (it will really help me tax-wise, but it obviously hurt roth-wise).
     
    Anyway, I'm waiting for my K-1 report to file my taxes.  My questions is this:  Will any business income from this K-1 report needed to be factored into my Roth IRA eligibility calculation?  We're an S-Corp...two owners...I'm minority.  We have largely been socking away our earnings (in addition to paying ourselves).  In other words, we haven't been skimming huge $'s...and we have a good amount of $ in the bank (which we have already been taxed on).  We spent a lot last year on some expansion stuff so we didn't have a lot of net income.  This year, it will be a bit different (I don't have final numbers yet).
     
    Anyway, I want to get this Roth thing straightened out, but don't want to start screwing around with it if my K-1 is going to have an effect on it. 
     
    Is it best just to wait for the report and then see where I'm at or can I calculate my partial contribution based on the gross income figures I have in front of me right now?
     
    I tried to look on-line and my tax guy is gone until next Monday....this is really bothering me (having illegal contribution money in my Roth account).  I'd like to get it taken care of as soon as possible.
     
    Any help would be appreciated.  .
     
     
    wallstreetcappers
    wallstreetcappers
    Covers Linesmen
    Participation Meter
    Joined: Feb, 2003
    Posts: 58464
    Posted: Jan. 29, 2008 - 7:04 PM ET #2

    Hutch,

    I had the same issue last year and will have the same this year. We have a business, LLC and get the income through the same fashion. It goes directly to the calculation of eligibility. It is on page one of the 1040, and if you look at the way you calculate Roth eligibility it is from AGI numbers, which INCLUDES business income.

    Pull out last years return (if you have a paper one) and look where AGI ends up coming from, and unfortunately it includes W-2, investment income etc..

    Sorry, probably not what you wanted to hear but yep..

    You MIGHT be able to still have a traditional IRA and just recharacterize the IRA from a Roth to a traditional. If you have gains on it, that is a little more sticky but it is somthing you can deal with.

    The same reason you gave about income restriction is why I didnt fund my 2007 because I wasnt sure where my/our AGI would end up..
    Reply
    Hutch,

    I had the same issue last year and will have the same this year. We have a business, LLC and get the income through the same fashion. It goes directly to the calculation of eligibility. It is on page one of the 1040, and if you look at the way you calculate Roth eligibility it is from AGI numbers, which INCLUDES business income.

    Pull out last years return (if you have a paper one) and look where AGI ends up coming from, and unfortunately it includes W-2, investment income etc..

    Sorry, probably not what you wanted to hear but yep..

    You MIGHT be able to still have a traditional IRA and just recharacterize the IRA from a Roth to a traditional. If you have gains on it, that is a little more sticky but it is somthing you can deal with.

    The same reason you gave about income restriction is why I didnt fund my 2007 because I wasnt sure where my/our AGI would end up..
     
    wallstreetcappers
    wallstreetcappers
    Covers Linesmen
    Participation Meter
    Joined: Feb, 2003
    Posts: 58464
    Posted: Jan. 29, 2008 - 7:05 PM ET #3

    Found this real quick-

    LINK
    Reply
    Found this real quick-

    LINK
     
    HutchEmAll
    HutchEmAll
    Legend
    Participation Meter
    Joined: Jan, 2004
    Posts: 38704
    Posted: Jan. 29, 2008 - 8:15 PM ET #4

    Exactly what I was looking for and I do have a paper copy of my return from last year at home....will check it when I get home. 
     
    At least I now know that I'm going to have to wait to straighten this out.  That's what I wanted to know.  Thanks much.
     
    Reply
    Exactly what I was looking for and I do have a paper copy of my return from last year at home....will check it when I get home. 
     
    At least I now know that I'm going to have to wait to straighten this out.  That's what I wanted to know.  Thanks much.
     
     
    HutchEmAll
    HutchEmAll
    Legend
    Participation Meter
    Joined: Jan, 2004
    Posts: 38704
    Posted: Jan. 29, 2008 - 8:16 PM ET #5

    BTW, what business are you in?
    Reply
    BTW, what business are you in?
     
     
    wallstreetcappers
    wallstreetcappers
    Covers Linesmen
    Participation Meter
    Joined: Feb, 2003
    Posts: 58464
    Posted: Jan. 29, 2008 - 9:47 PM ET #6

    Hutch,

    We had a small tech company and this and that over the last 4 yrs or so..nothing big, but enough for Roth issues..haha

    Near the bottom of the first page it shows AGI (Adjusted Gross Income) and if you look UP the page, you will see where the K-1 comes in BEFORE the end of the AGI calculation..
    Reply
    Hutch,

    We had a small tech company and this and that over the last 4 yrs or so..nothing big, but enough for Roth issues..haha

    Near the bottom of the first page it shows AGI (Adjusted Gross Income) and if you look UP the page, you will see where the K-1 comes in BEFORE the end of the AGI calculation..
    All Forums | Investments

    Hot Forums IconHot Forum Topics

    • Tuesday 11/10/2026 350
    • BEAT Your book 127,556
    • 🏈🏈🏈 Fubah2's risky CFB bets 300,730
    • I'm embarrassed for Trump supporters 63,591
    • $$ALL IN ( 2x5uNIT=1-O,5UnitUNDER=4-2,5Unit over=1-O,5Unit ATS=2-O,2Unit=4-o_ =+ 43 Units 5,640
    • Florida Man Tuesday 4,262
    • *EdgeHunter Ohio VS Miami Ohio - NEW WEEK, NEW MONEY!* 2,816
    • Bags Tuesday LARGE **Michigan State vs Duke** 2,354
    • Trump's legacy? 37,169
    • Week 11 Money 2,810

    Warning - External Link

    Report User

    Thank you for reporting
    This content is abusive or harmful
    This post is spam
    An error has occurred
    This site is protected by reCAPTCHA and the Google Privacy Policy and Terms of Service apply.

    Delete Post

    Are you sure you would like to remove this post?

    Remove Thread

    Are you sure you would like to remove this thread?

    Scan Results

    Login/Register

    Happy to have you join the conversation. To do so, please login or create an account.
    Accounts are free and easy to create.

    Search


    Loading…

    Loading…

    About Us
    Contact Us
    Careers
    Our Team
    Brand
    Testimonials
    Betting Guides
    Sportsbook Reviews
    Betting News
    Podcasts
    Responsible Gambling
    Betting Sites
    US Betting Sites
    Canada Betting Sites
    Canada Casinos
    Best Betting Apps
    Contests
    Streak Survivor
    King of Covers
    Office Pools
    The Covers community has
    810,221
    lifetime members worldwide
    Join our community today
    Covers 30 Years Logo Established in 1995,
    Covers is the world
    leader in sports
    betting information.
    21+
    Gambling problem? Call 1-800-GAMBLER
    Help Privacy Privacy Choices Terms of Service Cookies Sitemap Forum
    YouTube logo
    Facebook logo
    Twitter logo
    Instagram logo
    LinkedIn logo
    Google News logo
    Covers is verified safe by:
    Evalon Logo Logo GPWA Logo GDPR logo Logo GeoTrust logo Logo
    Covers Logo
    Copyright © 1995 - 2026 Genius Sports. All Rights Reserved.
    If you choose to make use of any information on this website including online sports betting services from any websites that may be featured on this website, we strongly recommend that you carefully check your local laws before doing so.It is your sole responsibility to understand your local laws and observe them strictly.Covers does not provide any advice or guidance as to the legality of online sports betting or other online gambling activities within your jurisdiction and you are responsible for complying with laws that are applicable to you in your relevant locality.Covers disclaims all liability associated with your use of this website and use of any information contained on it.As a condition of using this website, you agree to hold the owner of this website harmless from any claims arising from your use of any services on any third party website that may be featured by Covers.