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    interesting quote someone forwarded me..........

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    Posted: Sep. 22, 2008 - 1:07 PM ET #1

    "The President in a statement today condemned short selling for speculative profit on the New York Stock Exchange and said that he and other administration officials had frequently expressed the view to managers of the Exchange that measures should be taken to protect investors from "artificial depression" of the prices of securities they hold "  To the Editor of The New York Times: "Short sales of stock are an almost unmitigated evil, and if Congress can devise means to limit or perhaps eliminate the practice altogether, it will have taken a long step forward in preventing such disaster as almost overwhelmed that portion of the public which endeavors to save and invest some portion of its income and for a time threatened to overturn our entire financial system."


























    the above is from 1932
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    "The President in a statement today condemned short selling for speculative profit on the New York Stock Exchange and said that he and other administration officials had frequently expressed the view to managers of the Exchange that measures should be taken to protect investors from "artificial depression" of the prices of securities they hold "  To the Editor of The New York Times: "Short sales of stock are an almost unmitigated evil, and if Congress can devise means to limit or perhaps eliminate the practice altogether, it will have taken a long step forward in preventing such disaster as almost overwhelmed that portion of the public which endeavors to save and invest some portion of its income and for a time threatened to overturn our entire financial system."


























    the above is from 1932
     
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    Posted: Sep. 22, 2008 - 2:42 PM ET #2

    Bill Maher had a good one on friday.......
     
    "short selling is when you borrow a stock and sell it hoping it will go down so you can buy it back cheaper and make a profit.
     
    this is legal and weed isn't?"
     
    btw, WHEN did the SEC change the "up tick rule"? that was put in back in the 30's to keep the likes of Joseph P Kennedy from "hammering stock" which is just picking ANY company and just beating it down with constant shorting. it actually used to be a takeover play back in the 19th century.
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    Bill Maher had a good one on friday.......
     
    "short selling is when you borrow a stock and sell it hoping it will go down so you can buy it back cheaper and make a profit.
     
    this is legal and weed isn't?"
     
    btw, WHEN did the SEC change the "up tick rule"? that was put in back in the 30's to keep the likes of Joseph P Kennedy from "hammering stock" which is just picking ANY company and just beating it down with constant shorting. it actually used to be a takeover play back in the 19th century.
     
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    The "new" axis of evil:
     
    1) Degenerates that gamble on sports.
    2) Iceholes that sell stocks short.
    3) Heathens who don't love Jesus.
     
    Normally, I'd be doing cartwheels, summersaults, and back-flips knowing we only had 4 more months of these 2 clowns in the WH.  But the reality is that the other 4 clowns in the running for the WH are equally worthless as the 2 incumbents.
     
    And the scholar in charge of the FOMC.
     
    And the fascist in charge of the SEC.
     
    Ein reich, ein volk, ein feuhrer!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
     
    Long live the fourth reich.
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    The "new" axis of evil:
     
    1) Degenerates that gamble on sports.
    2) Iceholes that sell stocks short.
    3) Heathens who don't love Jesus.
     
    Normally, I'd be doing cartwheels, summersaults, and back-flips knowing we only had 4 more months of these 2 clowns in the WH.  But the reality is that the other 4 clowns in the running for the WH are equally worthless as the 2 incumbents.
     
    And the scholar in charge of the FOMC.
     
    And the fascist in charge of the SEC.
     
    Ein reich, ein volk, ein feuhrer!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
     
    Long live the fourth reich.
     
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    Posted: Sep. 22, 2008 - 3:30 PM ET #4

    rink - they took away the uptick rule in the last year. then just put it back

    friend of mine works compliance at a firm in NJ and he mentioned it to me i thought it was outrageous to take it away...what do i know

    i think it was rockefeller who starting doing the short/takeover play first but the Patriarch made it an art form

    good blog - actually i started reading this a year ago and came here warning everyone about it...was too scary to be real but its all playing out
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    rink - they took away the uptick rule in the last year. then just put it back

    friend of mine works compliance at a firm in NJ and he mentioned it to me i thought it was outrageous to take it away...what do i know

    i think it was rockefeller who starting doing the short/takeover play first but the Patriarch made it an art form

    good blog - actually i started reading this a year ago and came here warning everyone about it...was too scary to be real but its all playing out
     
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    i think it was rockefeller who starting doing the short/takeover play first but the Patriarch made it an art form
     
    IF I remember my market history correctly, Cornelius Vanderbilt (btw, how "BOUT them "DOORS?" 4-0 and with a fat ML win last week against Mississippi) used "hammering stock" as a methode to take over and consolidate short line railroads in the 19th century.
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    i think it was rockefeller who starting doing the short/takeover play first but the Patriarch made it an art form
     
    IF I remember my market history correctly, Cornelius Vanderbilt (btw, how "BOUT them "DOORS?" 4-0 and with a fat ML win last week against Mississippi) used "hammering stock" as a methode to take over and consolidate short line railroads in the 19th century.
     
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    Posted: Sep. 22, 2008 - 4:52 PM ET #6

    you may be right rink...rockefeller was the 20's i think

    4-0 for vandy is impressive
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    you may be right rink...rockefeller was the 20's i think

    4-0 for vandy is impressive
     
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    Posted: Sep. 22, 2008 - 10:50 PM ET #7

    Atlas Shrugged..
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    Atlas Shrugged..
     
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    since we're liklely to be hearing a lot about "selling short" in the future,  what exactly are you doing to "sell short" ?
     
    writing naked calls
    writing naked puts
    buying puts
    or something else
     
    thanks for helping a novice.
     
     
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    since we're liklely to be hearing a lot about "selling short" in the future,  what exactly are you doing to "sell short" ?
     
    writing naked calls
    writing naked puts
    buying puts
    or something else
     
    thanks for helping a novice.
     
     
     
     
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    Quote Originally Posted by 3825:

    since we're liklely to be hearing a lot about "selling short" in the future,  what exactly are you doing to "sell short" ?
     
    writing naked calls
    writing naked puts
    buying puts
    or something else
     
    thanks for helping a novice.
     
     


    sitting cash, buying commodities

    commodites is more or less a us dollar short. you can also buy foreign currencies like the euro or australian dollar which pays a nice 5% dividend
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    Quote Originally Posted by 3825:

    since we're liklely to be hearing a lot about "selling short" in the future,  what exactly are you doing to "sell short" ?
     
    writing naked calls
    writing naked puts
    buying puts
    or something else
     
    thanks for helping a novice.
     
     


    sitting cash, buying commodities

    commodites is more or less a us dollar short. you can also buy foreign currencies like the euro or australian dollar which pays a nice 5% dividend
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