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    interesting new "Short China" ETF

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    Posted: Nov. 12, 2007 - 2:50 PM ET #1

    BOSTON (MarketWatch) -- Investors who believe that China's soaring stock market is due for crash now have a new tool to put their money where their mouth is.
     

    FXP
     89.69, +7.75, +9.6%)
    , which shorts Chinese stocks, is generating plenty of buzz.
     
    https://www.marketwatch.com/news/story/new-etf-lets-investors-profit/story.aspx?guid=%7B225CDEB1%2DACBD%2D4A6D%2D84CD%2DADF393307D9F%7D&dist=SecMostMailed
     
    worth putting on the stock watch
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    BOSTON (MarketWatch) -- Investors who believe that China's soaring stock market is due for crash now have a new tool to put their money where their mouth is.
     

    FXP
     89.69, +7.75, +9.6%)
    , which shorts Chinese stocks, is generating plenty of buzz.
     
    https://www.marketwatch.com/news/story/new-etf-lets-investors-profit/story.aspx?guid=%7B225CDEB1%2DACBD%2D4A6D%2D84CD%2DADF393307D9F%7D&dist=SecMostMailed
     
    worth putting on the stock watch
     
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    Posted: Nov. 12, 2007 - 3:19 PM ET #2

        there are so many more investment tools available these days!  makes watching the market and paying close attention to whats going on very profitable! 
    Spottie2935 on socials
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        there are so many more investment tools available these days!  makes watching the market and paying close attention to whats going on very profitable! 
     
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    Posted: Nov. 12, 2007 - 3:31 PM ET #3

    I completely agree...you can short and long this sucker, playing the volitility.

    Good find Rat..  
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    I completely agree...you can short and long this sucker, playing the volitility.

    Good find Rat..  
     
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    Posted: Nov. 12, 2007 - 7:45 PM ET #4

    Quote Originally Posted by wallstreetcappers:

    I completely agree...you can short and long this sucker, playing the volitility.

    Good find Rat..  

     

    So Wallstreet, do you just buy shares of this and basically will be in a long and shot position?

    Also is the company running this legit?

    thanks

    cd

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    Quote Originally Posted by wallstreetcappers:

    I completely agree...you can short and long this sucker, playing the volitility.

    Good find Rat..  

     

    So Wallstreet, do you just buy shares of this and basically will be in a long and shot position?

    Also is the company running this legit?

    thanks

    cd

     
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    Posted: Nov. 12, 2007 - 7:47 PM ET #5

    cd,

    This is an EFT, a sort of closed mutual fund..meaning it is a basket of stocks, not a company. The ETF trades on the exchange just like a stock.

    So you should be able to go long and short it..long would mean SHORT (as that is the theme of the ETF) and short would be LONG the basket....  
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    cd,

    This is an EFT, a sort of closed mutual fund..meaning it is a basket of stocks, not a company. The ETF trades on the exchange just like a stock.

    So you should be able to go long and short it..long would mean SHORT (as that is the theme of the ETF) and short would be LONG the basket....  
     
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    Posted: Nov. 12, 2007 - 11:11 PM ET #6

    Quote Originally Posted by wallstreetcappers:

    cd,

    This is an EFT, a sort of closed mutual fund..meaning it is a basket of stocks, not a company. The ETF trades on the exchange just like a stock.

    So you should be able to go long and short it..long would mean SHORT (as that is the theme of the ETF) and short would be LONG the basket....  

     

    Wallstreet,

     thanks for the info.

    You think its a fairly good play right?

    cd

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    Quote Originally Posted by wallstreetcappers:

    cd,

    This is an EFT, a sort of closed mutual fund..meaning it is a basket of stocks, not a company. The ETF trades on the exchange just like a stock.

    So you should be able to go long and short it..long would mean SHORT (as that is the theme of the ETF) and short would be LONG the basket....  

     

    Wallstreet,

     thanks for the info.

    You think its a fairly good play right?

    cd

     
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    Posted: Nov. 12, 2007 - 11:22 PM ET #7

    cd,

    I meant an ETF...lol

    And if you wanted to look into it I would investigate the holdings for sure..

    Also see the margining it does and if there is enough volume to short it (go long).

    More choices is always a good thing in the market.


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    cd,

    I meant an ETF...lol

    And if you wanted to look into it I would investigate the holdings for sure..

    Also see the margining it does and if there is enough volume to short it (go long).

    More choices is always a good thing in the market.


     
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    Posted: Nov. 17, 2007 - 5:01 PM ET #8

    Why not just short FXI?
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    Why not just short FXI?
     
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    Posted: Nov. 24, 2007 - 1:40 PM ET #9

    Why not just short FXI?
     
    good point BUT you can not short stock in most self directed 401k or IRA accounts.
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    Why not just short FXI?
     
    good point BUT you can not short stock in most self directed 401k or IRA accounts.
     
     
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    Posted: Nov. 28, 2007 - 9:23 PM ET #10

    Which is a good thing.  If you had every average Joe trying to trade derivatives in their 401k.  We would be in some serious trouble.

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    Which is a good thing.  If you had every average Joe trying to trade derivatives in their 401k.  We would be in some serious trouble.

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