the possibility is that banks loaned firms money so the firms could buy back stock and inflate values. If this is true especially in energy sectors have built a house of cards with our market.
2008-2009 crash was driven by predatory mortgage practice, if this practice was applied to mega corporations we all are completely screwed the impending melt down isn't fixable.....
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the possibility is that banks loaned firms money so the firms could buy back stock and inflate values. If this is true especially in energy sectors have built a house of cards with our market.
2008-2009 crash was driven by predatory mortgage practice, if this practice was applied to mega corporations we all are completely screwed the impending melt down isn't fixable.....
I thought it was the feds imf and world banc dirrectly buying shares in the market. however
if they loaned money to coporate banks who then loaned money to bond markets who then loaned money to firms and all these notes are coming due with insuarnce giants and 401k fund operators gambleing the retirment of state pension funds providing a garrantee the large corporation loans will not default......
then we are all screwed.....
I thought it was the feds imf and world banc dirrectly buying shares in the market. however
if they loaned money to coporate banks who then loaned money to bond markets who then loaned money to firms and all these notes are coming due with insuarnce giants and 401k fund operators gambleing the retirment of state pension funds providing a garrantee the large corporation loans will not default......
shale loan defaults coming soon and more layoffs will ignite the next leg down on the S&P to 1770-1730... ultimately no real support until 1550, which is coming in 2016.
good luck
shale loan defaults coming soon and more layoffs will ignite the next leg down on the S&P to 1770-1730... ultimately no real support until 1550, which is coming in 2016.
the possibility is that banks loaned firms money so the firms could buy back stock and inflate values. If this is true especially in energy sectors have built a house of cards with our market.
2008-2009 crash was driven by predatory mortgage practice, if this practice was applied to mega corporations we all are completely screwed the impending melt down isn't fixable.....
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You don't understand the QE ? How it was done ? Where it went and how ? Look it up, there are some simple platforms (cartoon type) that lay it out in laymans terms, which I needed....
Basically the banks get money from the gov't at 1% interest, then it turn buy Gov't Bonds that pay 3% interest making money for free. They did not pass that money down to US, but pushed it off to many big players in terms of loaning money to them personally, One Ashkenazi to another (for the most part). They now control almost everything. All the time making sure it is all legal like.
Yes, giving money to a friend who buys a known stock that cant go down and turns a 50% profit on 50M... At this point they sell the shares into 401K accounts knowing that the stock price will drop because they make it drop... Big time conspiracies that the avg. guy has no clue about... This same guy worries about what he is told to worry about, the cost of Gas, bread, the FLAG, immigration, and all the other worthless things while others are playing with HIS money behind his back.
The basic (like myself) American guy from the East Coast, grew up in the Suburbs thinking "what a great country" I can get a job, retire at 60 and live good has been duped... Those days last 25 - 30 years after WWII and now are gone. This same guy will worry about the price of papertowels and not look at his 401K because the power has made it impossible to navigate the pages online and the quarterly statements dont tell you what is so so simple...
General USA Guy and Girl are suckers...
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the possibility is that banks loaned firms money so the firms could buy back stock and inflate values. If this is true especially in energy sectors have built a house of cards with our market.
2008-2009 crash was driven by predatory mortgage practice, if this practice was applied to mega corporations we all are completely screwed the impending melt down isn't fixable.....
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You don't understand the QE ? How it was done ? Where it went and how ? Look it up, there are some simple platforms (cartoon type) that lay it out in laymans terms, which I needed....
Basically the banks get money from the gov't at 1% interest, then it turn buy Gov't Bonds that pay 3% interest making money for free. They did not pass that money down to US, but pushed it off to many big players in terms of loaning money to them personally, One Ashkenazi to another (for the most part). They now control almost everything. All the time making sure it is all legal like.
Yes, giving money to a friend who buys a known stock that cant go down and turns a 50% profit on 50M... At this point they sell the shares into 401K accounts knowing that the stock price will drop because they make it drop... Big time conspiracies that the avg. guy has no clue about... This same guy worries about what he is told to worry about, the cost of Gas, bread, the FLAG, immigration, and all the other worthless things while others are playing with HIS money behind his back.
The basic (like myself) American guy from the East Coast, grew up in the Suburbs thinking "what a great country" I can get a job, retire at 60 and live good has been duped... Those days last 25 - 30 years after WWII and now are gone. This same guy will worry about the price of papertowels and not look at his 401K because the power has made it impossible to navigate the pages online and the quarterly statements dont tell you what is so so simple...
You should know that 401K's could contain all the information you need on 10 pages.. .Yet, they are made to be confussing, offer you advice, and keep you pumping money into their accounts and THEIR FUNDS...
Even those 401K are going to take a pounding once these guys make enough money... All the money will be on Bonds that will default. Everyone now thinks BONDS are safe... Watch as they fall from the SKY circa 2022... That is my guess on a year that things fall apart. That falls right inline with the past depression (which it was)... So what unemployement was only 12%... Really, fulltime, with benefits was way more... Huge amounts lost everything, their houses, their credit, now, we are right back in the same place and no one remembers gas at 4.50 a gal... Buying up big SUV's agains... SUckers, will be complaining again in 4 years..
Invest in OIL and Medical... Gold in 4 years and walk right thru the mess...
You should know that 401K's could contain all the information you need on 10 pages.. .Yet, they are made to be confussing, offer you advice, and keep you pumping money into their accounts and THEIR FUNDS...
Even those 401K are going to take a pounding once these guys make enough money... All the money will be on Bonds that will default. Everyone now thinks BONDS are safe... Watch as they fall from the SKY circa 2022... That is my guess on a year that things fall apart. That falls right inline with the past depression (which it was)... So what unemployement was only 12%... Really, fulltime, with benefits was way more... Huge amounts lost everything, their houses, their credit, now, we are right back in the same place and no one remembers gas at 4.50 a gal... Buying up big SUV's agains... SUckers, will be complaining again in 4 years..
Invest in OIL and Medical... Gold in 4 years and walk right thru the mess...
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