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    Business start up question?

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    Posted: Feb. 18, 2016 - 2:51 PM ET #1

    What should be the ownership percentage of a new business between two partners if:

    Partner A secures a loan for startup through a business (business 1) he owns 90% of.  Partner A will have significant input in business decisions but little to do with day to day operations.  The new business (business 2) is in a different industry but dependent on his already successful business for success and will be located on land owned by business 1.  After 5 years business 2 will start to pay rent to business 1 for the use of land at a reasonable to discounted rate.

    Partner B secures a loan (the same one as Partner A) through business 1 of which he owns 10% of.  Partner B will have significant responsibility in the startup of business 2 and its day to day operations.  Partner B will not be paid an employee salary from business 2 but will continue to draw his same salary and shareholder distributions from business 1 even though most of his time and effort will now go to business 2.  Up until now Partner B had a greater responsibility than Partner A in the day to day operations of business 1 so draws and salaries by Partners A & B from business 1 were equal.


    What do you think is a fair split of ownership % for business 2 if nothing changes with business 1?
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    What should be the ownership percentage of a new business between two partners if:

    Partner A secures a loan for startup through a business (business 1) he owns 90% of.  Partner A will have significant input in business decisions but little to do with day to day operations.  The new business (business 2) is in a different industry but dependent on his already successful business for success and will be located on land owned by business 1.  After 5 years business 2 will start to pay rent to business 1 for the use of land at a reasonable to discounted rate.

    Partner B secures a loan (the same one as Partner A) through business 1 of which he owns 10% of.  Partner B will have significant responsibility in the startup of business 2 and its day to day operations.  Partner B will not be paid an employee salary from business 2 but will continue to draw his same salary and shareholder distributions from business 1 even though most of his time and effort will now go to business 2.  Up until now Partner B had a greater responsibility than Partner A in the day to day operations of business 1 so draws and salaries by Partners A & B from business 1 were equal.


    What do you think is a fair split of ownership % for business 2 if nothing changes with business 1?
     
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    Posted: Feb. 18, 2016 - 4:22 PM ET #2

    You never stated how much each contributed on a percentage basis.

    If partner 1 contributed say 80%, is a silent partner and the business is reliant on his other business for its revenues and the other partner contributed 20% and is an active owner then I would say the split should be 80/20 or higher.

    I would give some incentives operationally for partner 2 to earn more equity in lieu of salary so that ratio might change...and I would offer the partner 1 some loan payback in exchange for a reduction in ownership over a period of time. These are ways for partner 2 to earn a higher ownership without bringing so much cash to the table.

    Of course both partners would need to agree to such terms..
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    You never stated how much each contributed on a percentage basis.

    If partner 1 contributed say 80%, is a silent partner and the business is reliant on his other business for its revenues and the other partner contributed 20% and is an active owner then I would say the split should be 80/20 or higher.

    I would give some incentives operationally for partner 2 to earn more equity in lieu of salary so that ratio might change...and I would offer the partner 1 some loan payback in exchange for a reduction in ownership over a period of time. These are ways for partner 2 to earn a higher ownership without bringing so much cash to the table.

    Of course both partners would need to agree to such terms..
     
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    Posted: Feb. 18, 2016 - 5:23 PM ET #3

    Quote Originally Posted by wallstreetcappers:

    You never stated how much each contributed on a percentage basis.


    The loan secured by business 1 is the contribution along with 5 yrs rent free use of land owned by business 1.  Business 1 is owned 90/10 by Partner 1/2 respectively
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    Quote Originally Posted by wallstreetcappers:

    You never stated how much each contributed on a percentage basis.


    The loan secured by business 1 is the contribution along with 5 yrs rent free use of land owned by business 1.  Business 1 is owned 90/10 by Partner 1/2 respectively
     
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    Posted: Feb. 18, 2016 - 7:13 PM ET #4

    Ok then I would go with my comments.

    So 80/20 to the partner 1...thats how I would do it.
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    Ok then I would go with my comments.

    So 80/20 to the partner 1...thats how I would do it.
     
     
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    Posted: Feb. 18, 2016 - 8:54 PM ET #5

    Quote Originally Posted by wallstreetcappers:

    Ok then I would go with my comments.

    So 80/20 to the partner 1...thats how I would do it.

    Ok thanks for your input
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    Quote Originally Posted by wallstreetcappers:

    Ok then I would go with my comments.

    So 80/20 to the partner 1...thats how I would do it.

    Ok thanks for your input
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