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    atlasshrugged
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    Posted: Nov. 22, 2013 - 10:38 AM ET #1

    full disclosure:  i tossed 5K at it earlier in the year as a spec and it was sitting there forming its base.  i find the opportunity to be extremely compelling and in fact possibly one of the best i've ever seen.

    Now I am willing to try and build a more substantial position.  it's easy to say why would i buy more now when i "should have" just bought more below $200???  i don't look at it that way.  i was waiting for more confirmation and legitimacy and i am seeing that.  

    - more trading volume in the instrument itself and more transaction volume
    - the currency formed a multi-month cup with handle base formation (not a perfect one but a CWH nonetheless) and really, really rocketed out of it in early November.  price/volume exploded which is really what is the main factor which has me on high alert
    - this price/volume action is absolutely tiny in the grand scheme of things but reflective of investor acceptance of Bitcoin and attitude towards it
    - after breaking out of this base it has obviously been very volatile but has held above the breakout point and attracted more trading volume thus telling me it is being evaluated and considered by more money

    So, the question is when do I move in with more.  Ideally I would wait for it to rest on its 50 day SMA but I'm not sure it will.  Earlier in the year after it exploded higher it did come down and test that 50 day SMA.  it has recently dipped below its 10 day SMA very briefly but hasn't even gone back and touched its 20 day SMA.

    everything, and i mean everything, eventually reverts to the key averages and other indicators but this is certainly a unique case.  let's keep a close eye on it and see if it pauses/corrects in some way, shape, or form and sets up a reasonable opportunity to add a lot more.  

    i can debate the merits of this on a fundamental basis and that's fine.  i'm looking at it as something that even if it takes a very small sliver of global currency transaction volume it could be worth many, many multiples of what it is at now.    
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    To remove first post, remove entire topic.
    full disclosure:  i tossed 5K at it earlier in the year as a spec and it was sitting there forming its base.  i find the opportunity to be extremely compelling and in fact possibly one of the best i've ever seen.

    Now I am willing to try and build a more substantial position.  it's easy to say why would i buy more now when i "should have" just bought more below $200???  i don't look at it that way.  i was waiting for more confirmation and legitimacy and i am seeing that.  

    - more trading volume in the instrument itself and more transaction volume
    - the currency formed a multi-month cup with handle base formation (not a perfect one but a CWH nonetheless) and really, really rocketed out of it in early November.  price/volume exploded which is really what is the main factor which has me on high alert
    - this price/volume action is absolutely tiny in the grand scheme of things but reflective of investor acceptance of Bitcoin and attitude towards it
    - after breaking out of this base it has obviously been very volatile but has held above the breakout point and attracted more trading volume thus telling me it is being evaluated and considered by more money

    So, the question is when do I move in with more.  Ideally I would wait for it to rest on its 50 day SMA but I'm not sure it will.  Earlier in the year after it exploded higher it did come down and test that 50 day SMA.  it has recently dipped below its 10 day SMA very briefly but hasn't even gone back and touched its 20 day SMA.

    everything, and i mean everything, eventually reverts to the key averages and other indicators but this is certainly a unique case.  let's keep a close eye on it and see if it pauses/corrects in some way, shape, or form and sets up a reasonable opportunity to add a lot more.  

    i can debate the merits of this on a fundamental basis and that's fine.  i'm looking at it as something that even if it takes a very small sliver of global currency transaction volume it could be worth many, many multiples of what it is at now.    
     
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    Posted: Nov. 22, 2013 - 10:41 AM ET #2

    I also see this as a hedge against the reality that for the time being "free markets" don't really exist.  bitcoin trades outside of the exchanges and outside of the control of central bankers.  in fact, i would expect more and more criticism and scrutiny of it which would just add to the legitimacy and potential threat of bitcoin if you ask me.

    i would expect people that are frustrated with and committed to gold and silver to be especially critical as well.  i've stated numerous times in here the charts of gold and silver have been telling you to stay away for a long time now.  add in the fact that "they" (central bankers and politicians) don't want and won't allow gold and silver to go higher and you have a recipe for frustration.  
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    I also see this as a hedge against the reality that for the time being "free markets" don't really exist.  bitcoin trades outside of the exchanges and outside of the control of central bankers.  in fact, i would expect more and more criticism and scrutiny of it which would just add to the legitimacy and potential threat of bitcoin if you ask me.

    i would expect people that are frustrated with and committed to gold and silver to be especially critical as well.  i've stated numerous times in here the charts of gold and silver have been telling you to stay away for a long time now.  add in the fact that "they" (central bankers and politicians) don't want and won't allow gold and silver to go higher and you have a recipe for frustration.  
     
    hotdamn85
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    Posted: Nov. 25, 2013 - 1:32 AM ET #3

    two words: roger ver
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    two words: roger ver
     
     
    atlasshrugged
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    Posted: Dec. 9, 2013 - 9:13 AM ET #4

    Added more Friday and Saturday between high 600's and low 700's.  it's tough to pin down firm prices with coinbase since this fella likes to move around quite a bit.  i anguished over whether it would go down and really test that 50DMA but the relative strength it is showing holding the long term trend line in the 700ish area has me opening my mind to the possibility that it does indeed go bang the 50DMA but could also very well hold that trend line.  yes, volume picked up on this correction (which could also be viewed as the third wave down in a three wave correction off the all time high) but the volume was way, way lower than the volume when it crashed in April/May (and I realize dollar volume now given the price measured in USD is higher).  i am open to adding more.  current average cost is just under $450.  

    we may see hints at "tapering" here and there but globally the race is on to print and debase currencies as bankers/politicians see it as the only way to kick the can since mathematically if rates rise there is simply no way the world can service the amount of sovereign and banking industry debt that exists not to mention the ongoing creation of debt.  bitcoin is worth a shot for me as a hedge and as the frontrunner to become a legit currency in a new financial system which in my view will indeed happen.  ever the visionary, Axl nailed it as those central bankers laugh at everyone while they print and print to bail out bankers and politicians:

    "why would they 
    tell me to please those
    that laugh in my face
    when all of the reasons
    they've taught us
    fall over themselves
    to give way"

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    good luck fellas.  it's gonna be a wild ride but we'll take a shot here and see how this unfolds.  

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    Added more Friday and Saturday between high 600's and low 700's.  it's tough to pin down firm prices with coinbase since this fella likes to move around quite a bit.  i anguished over whether it would go down and really test that 50DMA but the relative strength it is showing holding the long term trend line in the 700ish area has me opening my mind to the possibility that it does indeed go bang the 50DMA but could also very well hold that trend line.  yes, volume picked up on this correction (which could also be viewed as the third wave down in a three wave correction off the all time high) but the volume was way, way lower than the volume when it crashed in April/May (and I realize dollar volume now given the price measured in USD is higher).  i am open to adding more.  current average cost is just under $450.  

    we may see hints at "tapering" here and there but globally the race is on to print and debase currencies as bankers/politicians see it as the only way to kick the can since mathematically if rates rise there is simply no way the world can service the amount of sovereign and banking industry debt that exists not to mention the ongoing creation of debt.  bitcoin is worth a shot for me as a hedge and as the frontrunner to become a legit currency in a new financial system which in my view will indeed happen.  ever the visionary, Axl nailed it as those central bankers laugh at everyone while they print and print to bail out bankers and politicians:

    "why would they 
    tell me to please those
    that laugh in my face
    when all of the reasons
    they've taught us
    fall over themselves
    to give way"

    Prostitute
    W. Axl Rose

    good luck fellas.  it's gonna be a wild ride but we'll take a shot here and see how this unfolds.  

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