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    What Tiger SHOULD have said

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    HutchEmAll
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    Posted: Feb. 19, 2010 - 2:35 PM ET #1

    I have been lucky…and I have had good fortune….and I’ve worked hard.  When those three things come together, it can make you feel bullet proof.  For lack of a better way of putting it, I took advantage of that.  I let down my wife, I let down my family, and I let down my fans.  For that I am truly sorry.

     

    I can sit here and tell you what I expect to do, but the proof will be in how I act going forward.  I ask that you give me a second chance to let my behavior do the talking.  For all of those that I have let down, I apologize.  You have, for the large part, made me what I am today.   My plan is to compete like crazy on the golf course and to make amends to my family.  I hope that is enough. 

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    I have been lucky…and I have had good fortune….and I’ve worked hard.  When those three things come together, it can make you feel bullet proof.  For lack of a better way of putting it, I took advantage of that.  I let down my wife, I let down my family, and I let down my fans.  For that I am truly sorry.

     

    I can sit here and tell you what I expect to do, but the proof will be in how I act going forward.  I ask that you give me a second chance to let my behavior do the talking.  For all of those that I have let down, I apologize.  You have, for the large part, made me what I am today.   My plan is to compete like crazy on the golf course and to make amends to my family.  I hope that is enough. 

     
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    Posted: Feb. 19, 2010 - 2:54 PM ET #2

    That would have been accepted by me, and I'm a big HATER apparently.

     

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    That would have been accepted by me, and I'm a big HATER apparently.

     

     
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    Posted: Feb. 19, 2010 - 2:58 PM ET #3

    Quote Originally Posted by HutchEmAll:

    I have been lucky…and I have had good fortune….and I’ve worked hard.  When those three things come together, it can make you feel bullet proof.  For lack of a better way of putting it, I took advantage of that.  I let down my wife, I let down my family, and I let down my fans.  For that I am truly sorry.

     

    I can sit here and tell you what I expect to do, but the proof will be in how I act going forward.  I ask that you give me a second chance to let my behavior do the talking.  For all of those that I have let down, I apologize.  You have, for the large part, made me what I am today.   My plan is to compete like crazy on the golf course and to make amends to my family.  I hope that is enough. 

    Precise and to the point

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    Quote Originally Posted by HutchEmAll:

    I have been lucky…and I have had good fortune….and I’ve worked hard.  When those three things come together, it can make you feel bullet proof.  For lack of a better way of putting it, I took advantage of that.  I let down my wife, I let down my family, and I let down my fans.  For that I am truly sorry.

     

    I can sit here and tell you what I expect to do, but the proof will be in how I act going forward.  I ask that you give me a second chance to let my behavior do the talking.  For all of those that I have let down, I apologize.  You have, for the large part, made me what I am today.   My plan is to compete like crazy on the golf course and to make amends to my family.  I hope that is enough. 

    Precise and to the point

     
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    Posted: Feb. 19, 2010 - 2:59 PM ET #4

    Actually he should have started saying....
     
     
     
     
     
     
     
     
     
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    Actually he should have started saying....
     
     
     
     
     
     
     
     
     
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    Posted: Feb. 19, 2010 - 3:03 PM ET #5

    You for a large part have made me who i am today.

    How have we(fans) made Tiger?? He doesn't even know we are there when he's competing....he is who he is today because of his hardwork, his father, and his mental strength. Yeah he's made money off of us if thats what you mean and he's an icon. But we are a small small part of who he is imo.

    Tiger doesn't give a fuck about us and the media and I love it.

     

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    You for a large part have made me who i am today.

    How have we(fans) made Tiger?? He doesn't even know we are there when he's competing....he is who he is today because of his hardwork, his father, and his mental strength. Yeah he's made money off of us if thats what you mean and he's an icon. But we are a small small part of who he is imo.

    Tiger doesn't give a fuck about us and the media and I love it.

     

     
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    Posted: Feb. 19, 2010 - 3:21 PM ET #6

    That's kind of what he said.  Just didn't deliver it smoothly.  5-on-it that's some funny shit.
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    That's kind of what he said.  Just didn't deliver it smoothly.  5-on-it that's some funny shit.
     
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    Posted: Feb. 19, 2010 - 3:42 PM ET #7

    He would have had to pause a LOT then.
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    He would have had to pause a LOT then.
     
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    Posted: Feb. 19, 2010 - 3:48 PM ET #8

    Didn't he say that?
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    Didn't he say that?
     
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    Posted: Feb. 19, 2010 - 3:57 PM ET #9

    Should he say what is TRUE or what should be said to appease the public?

    The two are not the same.


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    Should he say what is TRUE or what should be said to appease the public?

    The two are not the same.


     
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    Posted: Feb. 19, 2010 - 4:07 PM ET #10

    Quote Originally Posted by HutchEmAll:

    I have been lucky…and I have had good fortune….and I’ve worked hard.  When those three things come together, it can make you feel bullet proof.  For lack of a better way of putting it, I took advantage of that.  I let down my wife, I let down my family, and I let down my fans.  For that I am truly sorry.

     

    I can sit here and tell you what I expect to do, but the proof will be in how I act going forward.  I ask that you give me a second chance to let my behavior do the talking.  For all of those that I have let down, I apologize.  You have, for the large part, made me what I am today.   My plan is to compete like crazy on the golf course and to make amends to my family.  I hope that is enough. 



    That's asking too much for someone who thinks with his little head.
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    Quote Originally Posted by HutchEmAll:

    I have been lucky…and I have had good fortune….and I’ve worked hard.  When those three things come together, it can make you feel bullet proof.  For lack of a better way of putting it, I took advantage of that.  I let down my wife, I let down my family, and I let down my fans.  For that I am truly sorry.

     

    I can sit here and tell you what I expect to do, but the proof will be in how I act going forward.  I ask that you give me a second chance to let my behavior do the talking.  For all of those that I have let down, I apologize.  You have, for the large part, made me what I am today.   My plan is to compete like crazy on the golf course and to make amends to my family.  I hope that is enough. 



    That's asking too much for someone who thinks with his little head.
     
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    Posted: Feb. 19, 2010 - 4:49 PM ET #11

    WSC- In a Mea Culpa moment, Tiger SHOULD have said what is True NOT what a PR Hack wrote for Him.

    He's a scripted BS Champion ... he is as real as a $3 bill.

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    WSC- In a Mea Culpa moment, Tiger SHOULD have said what is True NOT what a PR Hack wrote for Him.

    He's a scripted BS Champion ... he is as real as a $3 bill.

     
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    Posted: Feb. 19, 2010 - 5:58 PM ET #12

    I would have liked to see some tears.

     

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    I would have liked to see some tears.

     

     
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    Posted: Feb. 19, 2010 - 6:07 PM ET #13

    Quote Originally Posted by Uconn34:

    You for a large part have made me who i am today.

    How have we(fans) made Tiger?? He doesn't even know we are there when he's competing....he is who he is today because of his hardwork, his father, and his mental strength. Yeah he's made money off of us if thats what you mean and he's an icon. But we are a small small part of who he is imo.

    Tiger doesn't give a fuck about us and the media and I love it.

     

    C'mon, Uconn....don't make this difficult.  I said that is what he SHOULD have said....I didn't say I believed every word of it.  Two approaches:  "I worked my ass off to make myself the best golfer in the world and I deserve all the accolades I get" vs. giving credit to the fans.  Which do you think is a better approach when you're trying to re-create your image? 

    For the most part, we are a forgiving people.  But it makes it harder when you can barely even read a pre-written statement.  Zero emotion.  Zero remorse.  He sounded like a 10th grader. 

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    Quote Originally Posted by Uconn34:

    You for a large part have made me who i am today.

    How have we(fans) made Tiger?? He doesn't even know we are there when he's competing....he is who he is today because of his hardwork, his father, and his mental strength. Yeah he's made money off of us if thats what you mean and he's an icon. But we are a small small part of who he is imo.

    Tiger doesn't give a fuck about us and the media and I love it.

     

    C'mon, Uconn....don't make this difficult.  I said that is what he SHOULD have said....I didn't say I believed every word of it.  Two approaches:  "I worked my ass off to make myself the best golfer in the world and I deserve all the accolades I get" vs. giving credit to the fans.  Which do you think is a better approach when you're trying to re-create your image? 

    For the most part, we are a forgiving people.  But it makes it harder when you can barely even read a pre-written statement.  Zero emotion.  Zero remorse.  He sounded like a 10th grader. 

     
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    Posted: Feb. 19, 2010 - 6:13 PM ET #14

    Not to mention, WTF was he brining up his charity work for?  Complete nonsense.  Has NOTHING to do with what went on.  Completely contrived and totally insincere 

    Still love him as a golfer. 

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    Not to mention, WTF was he brining up his charity work for?  Complete nonsense.  Has NOTHING to do with what went on.  Completely contrived and totally insincere 

    Still love him as a golfer. 

     
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    Quote Originally Posted by HutchEmAll:

    I have been lucky…and I have had good fortune….and I’ve worked hard.  When those three things come together, it can make you feel bullet proof.  For lack of a better way of putting it, I took advantage of that.  I let down my wife, I let down my family, and I let down my fans.  For that I am truly sorry.

     

    I can sit here and tell you what I expect to do, but the proof will be in how I act going forward.  I ask that you give me a second chance to let my behavior do the talking.  For all of those that I have let down, I apologize.  You have, for the large part, made me what I am today.   My plan is to compete like crazy on the golf course and to make amends to my family.  I hope that is enough. 

    you should have been his speech writer....... more genuine than his speech, and would probably "buy back" those fans that need buying back......

    but then again, he really shouldn't have to say anything at all....... pretty sure nobody in these forums would have to publicly humiliate themselves by giving a press conference if they had some sort of personal indiscretion.......

    i am someone who has never cheated on anyone i have dated....... i think cheating is something low-life's do....... but the fact remains, there is no reason superstar athletes should be held to some "different" standard, just because the media has built them up to be something ridiculous and inhuman.......

    it happens every time........ we build them up to be untouchable, then find out (surprise!) that they are just like everyone else....... and then when that happens, we demand an apology for our investment.......

    so who is wrong?  in my opinion, it is the person who made the unrealistic investment....... Tiger has his issues, and like any of us, will have to apologize to those in his life and repair his life in that way....... but unlike us, he is also, for some fucked up reason, obligated to apologize to his adoring fans......

    please!

     

    good speech though......

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    Quote Originally Posted by HutchEmAll:

    I have been lucky…and I have had good fortune….and I’ve worked hard.  When those three things come together, it can make you feel bullet proof.  For lack of a better way of putting it, I took advantage of that.  I let down my wife, I let down my family, and I let down my fans.  For that I am truly sorry.

     

    I can sit here and tell you what I expect to do, but the proof will be in how I act going forward.  I ask that you give me a second chance to let my behavior do the talking.  For all of those that I have let down, I apologize.  You have, for the large part, made me what I am today.   My plan is to compete like crazy on the golf course and to make amends to my family.  I hope that is enough. 

    you should have been his speech writer....... more genuine than his speech, and would probably "buy back" those fans that need buying back......

    but then again, he really shouldn't have to say anything at all....... pretty sure nobody in these forums would have to publicly humiliate themselves by giving a press conference if they had some sort of personal indiscretion.......

    i am someone who has never cheated on anyone i have dated....... i think cheating is something low-life's do....... but the fact remains, there is no reason superstar athletes should be held to some "different" standard, just because the media has built them up to be something ridiculous and inhuman.......

    it happens every time........ we build them up to be untouchable, then find out (surprise!) that they are just like everyone else....... and then when that happens, we demand an apology for our investment.......

    so who is wrong?  in my opinion, it is the person who made the unrealistic investment....... Tiger has his issues, and like any of us, will have to apologize to those in his life and repair his life in that way....... but unlike us, he is also, for some fucked up reason, obligated to apologize to his adoring fans......

    please!

     

    good speech though......

     
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    Posted: Feb. 19, 2010 - 7:20 PM ET #16

    He should have said my personal life.......is just that.......personal.
    What goes on in my marriage is none of anybody's business. I will rejoin the tour on "this" date.

    Why should he have to apologize to the public for his moral transgressions? The only reason that he held the farce of a "press conference" was to appease sponsors. Does anyone truly think that Tiger cares what the public thinks? Does anyone believe that the apology was sincere? He has always been aloof. Always acted as if he were above the "standard." Why stop now?
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    He should have said my personal life.......is just that.......personal.
    What goes on in my marriage is none of anybody's business. I will rejoin the tour on "this" date.

    Why should he have to apologize to the public for his moral transgressions? The only reason that he held the farce of a "press conference" was to appease sponsors. Does anyone truly think that Tiger cares what the public thinks? Does anyone believe that the apology was sincere? He has always been aloof. Always acted as if he were above the "standard." Why stop now?
     
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    Posted: Feb. 19, 2010 - 7:29 PM ET #17

    Quote Originally Posted by FrankieNapp:

    He should have said my personal life.......is just that.......personal.
    What goes on in my marriage is none of anybody's business. I will rejoin the tour on "this" date.

    Why should he have to apologize to the public for his moral transgressions? The only reason that he held the farce of a "press conference" was to appease sponsors. Does anyone truly think that Tiger cares what the public thinks? Does anyone believe that the apology was sincere? He has always been aloof. Always acted as if he were above the "standard." Why stop now?


    He wasnt apologizing to the public, he was attempting to salvage his corporate image by doing what he thought would work best.

    We all buy products he pitches, so he has to speak to the end consumer to accomplish his real goal.


    Do not be fooled into believing he was apologizing to the golf fan and public, he could care less about that. His total lack of fan appreciation and interaction have spoken this fact for a very long time.

    Tigga is probably the most selfish and least appreciative golfer on the tour.


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    Quote Originally Posted by FrankieNapp:

    He should have said my personal life.......is just that.......personal.
    What goes on in my marriage is none of anybody's business. I will rejoin the tour on "this" date.

    Why should he have to apologize to the public for his moral transgressions? The only reason that he held the farce of a "press conference" was to appease sponsors. Does anyone truly think that Tiger cares what the public thinks? Does anyone believe that the apology was sincere? He has always been aloof. Always acted as if he were above the "standard." Why stop now?


    He wasnt apologizing to the public, he was attempting to salvage his corporate image by doing what he thought would work best.

    We all buy products he pitches, so he has to speak to the end consumer to accomplish his real goal.


    Do not be fooled into believing he was apologizing to the golf fan and public, he could care less about that. His total lack of fan appreciation and interaction have spoken this fact for a very long time.

    Tigga is probably the most selfish and least appreciative golfer on the tour.


     
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    Posted: Feb. 19, 2010 - 7:32 PM ET #18

    Quote Originally Posted by FrankieNapp:

    He should have said my personal life.......is just that.......personal.
    What goes on in my marriage is none of anybody's business. I will rejoin the tour on "this" date.

    Why should he have to apologize to the public for his moral transgressions? The only reason that he held the farce of a "press conference" was to appease sponsors. Does anyone truly think that Tiger cares what the public thinks? Does anyone believe that the apology was sincere? He has always been aloof. Always acted as if he were above the "standard." Why stop now?


    I couldn't disagree more. If he came up with that trite answer/attitude, he'd have lost what sponsors he has left.
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    Quote Originally Posted by FrankieNapp:

    He should have said my personal life.......is just that.......personal.
    What goes on in my marriage is none of anybody's business. I will rejoin the tour on "this" date.

    Why should he have to apologize to the public for his moral transgressions? The only reason that he held the farce of a "press conference" was to appease sponsors. Does anyone truly think that Tiger cares what the public thinks? Does anyone believe that the apology was sincere? He has always been aloof. Always acted as if he were above the "standard." Why stop now?


    I couldn't disagree more. If he came up with that trite answer/attitude, he'd have lost what sponsors he has left.
     
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    Posted: Feb. 19, 2010 - 7:37 PM ET #19

    Quote Originally Posted by gaybettor:



    I couldn't disagree more. If he came up with that trite answer/attitude, he'd have lost what sponsors he has left.



    Obviously.......it's not politically correct to tell the truth. My point was the whole thing is disingenuous. Tiger only apologized because of the sponsors. He could care less what anyone else thinks......including his wife. If he did care.......he wouldn't have banged every ugly waitress from Jersey to Vegas to begin with.
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    Quote Originally Posted by gaybettor:



    I couldn't disagree more. If he came up with that trite answer/attitude, he'd have lost what sponsors he has left.



    Obviously.......it's not politically correct to tell the truth. My point was the whole thing is disingenuous. Tiger only apologized because of the sponsors. He could care less what anyone else thinks......including his wife. If he did care.......he wouldn't have banged every ugly waitress from Jersey to Vegas to begin with.
     
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    Posted: Feb. 19, 2010 - 7:39 PM ET #20

    Quote Originally Posted by wallstreetcappers:



    He wasnt apologizing to the public, he was attempting to salvage his corporate image by doing what he thought would work best.

    We all buy products he pitches, so he has to speak to the end consumer to accomplish his real goal.


    Do not be fooled into believing he was apologizing to the golf fan and public, he could care less about that. His total lack of fan appreciation and interaction have spoken this fact for a very long time.

    Tigga is probably the most selfish and least appreciative golfer on the tour.





    Exactly. That is my point........wallstreet. You are more eloquent an I.     
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    Quote Originally Posted by wallstreetcappers:



    He wasnt apologizing to the public, he was attempting to salvage his corporate image by doing what he thought would work best.

    We all buy products he pitches, so he has to speak to the end consumer to accomplish his real goal.


    Do not be fooled into believing he was apologizing to the golf fan and public, he could care less about that. His total lack of fan appreciation and interaction have spoken this fact for a very long time.

    Tigga is probably the most selfish and least appreciative golfer on the tour.





    Exactly. That is my point........wallstreet. You are more eloquent an I.     
     
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    Posted: Feb. 19, 2010 - 7:54 PM ET #21

    Your wife never hit you?

    Must have been the 4-iron then..............

    Thanks for explaining the busted out Esplanade windows, you falling asleep on the ground, why you laid low for 45 days...............but I digress

    Read Bill Simons 'Tiger still playing by his own rules' on ESPN (I apologize, I don't know how to submit a link)
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    Your wife never hit you?

    Must have been the 4-iron then..............

    Thanks for explaining the busted out Esplanade windows, you falling asleep on the ground, why you laid low for 45 days...............but I digress

    Read Bill Simons 'Tiger still playing by his own rules' on ESPN (I apologize, I don't know how to submit a link)
     
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    Posted: Feb. 19, 2010 - 7:59 PM ET #22

    Quote Originally Posted by wallstreetcappers:



    He wasnt apologizing to the public, he was attempting to salvage his corporate image by doing what he thought would work best.

    We all buy products he pitches, so he has to speak to the end consumer to accomplish his real goal.


    Do not be fooled into believing he was apologizing to the golf fan and public, he could care less about that. His total lack of fan appreciation and interaction have spoken this fact for a very long time.

    Tigga is probably the most selfish and least appreciative golfer on the tour.


     

     

    Nailed right on the head. Anybody that thinks otherwise lives in fantasy world

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    Quote Originally Posted by wallstreetcappers:



    He wasnt apologizing to the public, he was attempting to salvage his corporate image by doing what he thought would work best.

    We all buy products he pitches, so he has to speak to the end consumer to accomplish his real goal.


    Do not be fooled into believing he was apologizing to the golf fan and public, he could care less about that. His total lack of fan appreciation and interaction have spoken this fact for a very long time.

    Tigga is probably the most selfish and least appreciative golfer on the tour.


     

     

    Nailed right on the head. Anybody that thinks otherwise lives in fantasy world

     
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    Posted: Feb. 19, 2010 - 8:05 PM ET #23

    Quote Originally Posted by HutchEmAll:

    Not to mention, WTF was he brining up his charity work for?  Complete nonsense.  Has NOTHING to do with what went on.  Completely contrived and totally insincere 

    Still love him as a golfer. 

    How about him bringing his religion into the statement....talk about bullshit !
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    Quote Originally Posted by HutchEmAll:

    Not to mention, WTF was he brining up his charity work for?  Complete nonsense.  Has NOTHING to do with what went on.  Completely contrived and totally insincere 

    Still love him as a golfer. 

    How about him bringing his religion into the statement....talk about bullshit !
     
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    Posted: Feb. 19, 2010 - 11:42 PM ET #24

    Pretty interesting how the majority of covers posters have pretty much the OPPOSITE views of everybody on PTI and Around the Horn.  Everyone on those shows thought Tiger was extremely sincere and did a great job,  hmmmmm...........
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    Pretty interesting how the majority of covers posters have pretty much the OPPOSITE views of everybody on PTI and Around the Horn.  Everyone on those shows thought Tiger was extremely sincere and did a great job,  hmmmmm...........
     
     
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    Posted: Feb. 20, 2010 - 1:16 AM ET #25

    what i dont get here is why everyone doesnt just leave him alone

    What business is it of ours as to whats going on in his private life.

     

    I would never do it but I know PLENTY of guys that have cheated on their wives or girlfriends but WHAT AM I GOING TO GET IONVOLVED FOR ANYWAYS.

     

    who cares about tiger's private life

     

    You wouldnt want people getting in on your private life..... so stay out of other peoples

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    what i dont get here is why everyone doesnt just leave him alone

    What business is it of ours as to whats going on in his private life.

     

    I would never do it but I know PLENTY of guys that have cheated on their wives or girlfriends but WHAT AM I GOING TO GET IONVOLVED FOR ANYWAYS.

     

    who cares about tiger's private life

     

    You wouldnt want people getting in on your private life..... so stay out of other peoples

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