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Randisist

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Posted: Apr. 22, 2013 - 11:29 AM ET #1

Just curious if anybody believes that Dzhokhar Tsarnaev was framed.

And if you feel that Dzhokhar Tsarnaev was framed, who framed him?

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HutchEmAll

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Posted: Apr. 22, 2013 - 11:40 AM ET #2

Don't believe he was, but why even guess? Why not just let the investigation proceed?

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Randisist

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Posted: Apr. 22, 2013 - 11:48 AM ET #3

Hutch,

We both know that there are people who know that Dzhokhar Tsarnaev was framed. Period, no question what so ever.

I am just curious if anybody that has that belief will state that they believe Dzhokhar Tsarnaev was framed and more importantly Who is framing them.

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PapaShango

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Posted: Apr. 22, 2013 - 12:31 PM ET #4

Doubt he was framed. They did have a shootout with the cops that resulted in the brothers throwing grenades at the cops. I don't know how that means he can be framed.

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Allbutbroke

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Posted: Apr. 22, 2013 - 12:38 PM ET #5

Quote Originally Posted by Randisist:

Hutch,

We both know that there are people who know that Dzhokhar Tsarnaev was framed. Period, no question what so ever.

I am just curious if anybody that has that belief will state that they believe Dzhokhar Tsarnaev was framed and more importantly Who is framing them.

Are you being framed to make such a retarded statement?

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SwishSwish1234

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Posted: Apr. 22, 2013 - 12:48 PM ET #6

Quote Originally Posted by Allbutbroke:

Are you being framed to make such a retarded statement?

He's being sarcastic fella, Randisist loves a bit of winding up the conspiracy theorist brigade.

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Randisist

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Posted: Apr. 22, 2013 - 12:50 PM ET #7

Quote Originally Posted by Allbutbroke:

Are you being framed to make such a retarded statement?

My statement was that I know there are people who believe without question that that Dzhokhar Tsarnaev was framed.

And in YOUR brilliant brain THAT is considered a retarded statement???

I never "to anyone with above the most absolute basic reading capability" stated whether I believed he was framed OR NOT...

But just for the record I do not believe he was in any way shape or form believe he was framed...

Do you grasp any of this???

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Posted: Apr. 22, 2013 - 12:53 PM ET #8

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Randisist

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Posted: Apr. 22, 2013 - 12:53 PM ET #9

Quote Originally Posted by SwishSwish1234:

He's being sarcastic fella, Randisist loves a bit of winding up the conspiracy theorist brigade.

Swish,

You posted while I was creating a response...

Thank You...

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THEMUGG

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Posted: Apr. 22, 2013 - 12:57 PM ET #10

When you're caught on video putting down a backpack that later explodes, I'd say claiming you were framed isn't gonna fly.....

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Randisist

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Posted: Apr. 22, 2013 - 12:59 PM ET #11

Quote Originally Posted by ckattar8:

i think he was framed for many reasons...... I live in boston and I was all over the news abc/cnn/sportscenter I WAS right there....... And this is still my beliefs

1) They have pics of EVERYTHING, the marathon, the boat with him,the 711, him on campus,

The government can SAY (they found explosives in their house), THEY shot and killed the mit officer) , the government can say WHATEVER they want and NO ONE is going to debate or not believe it........

2) There is ABSOLUTLEY not 1 person besides the uncle saying negative things about them, people HATED bin laden and knew him...... His friends are actually sticking up saying he was framed he'd never do that.... ( just a little fishy)

3) There was a fb swirling with him on the ground after the boat getting oxygen with blood everywhere, saying he was shot..... Now photos have surfaced from a helicopter cam SHOWING him standing up and getting out with negotiatiors no blood in site... And all of a sudden he has throat injuries and can not speak.....

4) If I was those kids and the FBI put my picture up on the tv saying i was a terrorist, what are we going to do ? Call the cops? NO , theyre going to get us (if we were framed) throw us in a cell the rest of our life regardless if we did it or not... They had to get the hell out of dodge.... Just as any of us would 1100%.... If they truly did shoot at cops and kill that cop then theyre guilty , but anyone can record gun shots with no voices or faces and say it was a massive assault......

I dont buy it

5) There was also a video on the web last night SHOWING Jahar walking away with his backpack ON..... The same pics the fbi used they just zoomed in and to the side and you can clearly see the backpack is ON .....But 2 navy seals with special backpacks with patches were there and show them leaving the scene with NO backpacks on, and their specialized packs were in pictures matching.......

Its very fishy to me, Do I think the government is corrupt YES, do I want to believe it NO.......... But I dont know what to make with all this to be completley honest

First think your for the response...

Second... I do not totally trust our government...

I am still unclear as to who specifically you feel framed Dzhokhar Tsarnaev. I am honestly curious as to who should be held accountable.

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Quote Originally Posted by ckattar8:

i think he was framed for many reasons...... I live in boston and I was all over the news abc/cnn/sportscenter I WAS right there....... And this is still my beliefs

1) They have pics of EVERYTHING, the marathon, the boat with him,the 711, him on campus,

The government can SAY (they found explosives in their house), THEY shot and killed the mit officer) , the government can say WHATEVER they want and NO ONE is going to debate or not believe it........

2) There is ABSOLUTLEY not 1 person besides the uncle saying negative things about them, people HATED bin laden and knew him...... His friends are actually sticking up saying he was framed he'd never do that.... ( just a little fishy)

3) There was a fb swirling with him on the ground after the boat getting oxygen with blood everywhere, saying he was shot..... Now photos have surfaced from a helicopter cam SHOWING him standing up and getting out with negotiatiors no blood in site... And all of a sudden he has throat injuries and can not speak.....

4) If I was those kids and the FBI put my picture up on the tv saying i was a terrorist, what are we going to do ? Call the cops? NO , theyre going to get us (if we were framed) throw us in a cell the rest of our life regardless if we did it or not... They had to get the hell out of dodge.... Just as any of us would 1100%.... If they truly did shoot at cops and kill that cop then theyre guilty , but anyone can record gun shots with no voices or faces and say it was a massive assault......

I dont buy it

5) There was also a video on the web last night SHOWING Jahar walking away with his backpack ON..... The same pics the fbi used they just zoomed in and to the side and you can clearly see the backpack is ON .....But 2 navy seals with special backpacks with patches were there and show them leaving the scene with NO backpacks on, and their specialized packs were in pictures matching.......

Its very fishy to me, Do I think the government is corrupt YES, do I want to believe it NO.......... But I dont know what to make with all this to be completley honest

First think your for the response...

Second... I do not totally trust our government...

I am still unclear as to who specifically you feel framed Dzhokhar Tsarnaev. I am honestly curious as to who should be held accountable.

Frank_Da_Tank

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Posted: Apr. 22, 2013 - 1:16 PM ET #12

Quote Originally Posted by THEMUGG:

When you're caught on video putting down a backpack that later explodes, I'd say claiming you were framed isn't gonna fly.....

Why anyone alerted the media that this clown had not been read his Miranda Rights is beyond me. Of all the half truths we hear, they need to be factual with that?

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daveyt25

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Posted: Apr. 22, 2013 - 1:52 PM ET #13

ckattar8

You are hilarious, but have a very creative mind! Both brothers would be dead if this was a conspiracy. go ask the family of the campus police officer who was killed by these kids how they feel...

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NoWorries21

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Posted: Apr. 22, 2013 - 2:04 PM ET #14

If he was framed why did he tell his dad on the phone that he was no where near the finish line and never gone down there right after the bombings. Even if he was framed he was there. If I was there I am pretty sure I would be calling my parents saying holy shitt guess what..................

Anyway I will be interested in what Glenn Beck has to say in a few hours

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canovsp

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Posted: Apr. 22, 2013 - 2:04 PM ET #15

I don't think he was framed but he could be part of something bigger.

I was listening to Michael Savage the other night and he brought up some interesting questions including how did these two brothers live and what did they live on?

If he is a disciplined terrorists he will not admit he is part of a larger organization.

Should we look into waterboarding to see if he knows anything?

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Allbutbroke

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Posted: Apr. 22, 2013 - 2:17 PM ET #16

Quote Originally Posted by Randisist:

My statement was that I know there are people who believe without question that that Dzhokhar Tsarnaev was framed.

And in YOUR brilliant brain THAT is considered a retarded statement???

I never "to anyone with above the most absolute basic reading capability" stated whether I believed he was framed OR NOT...

But just for the record I do not believe he was in any way shape or form believe he was framed...

Do you grasp any of this???

My apologies.........I misread and should have kept my mouth shut.

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Randisist

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Posted: Apr. 22, 2013 - 2:45 PM ET #17

Quote Originally Posted by Allbutbroke:

My apologies.........I misread and should have kept my mouth shut.

I came back too strong and for that I do apologize. Need to cut back on the java...

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Randisist

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Posted: Apr. 22, 2013 - 2:47 PM ET #18

Quote Originally Posted by canovsp:

I don't think he was framed but he could be part of something bigger.

I was listening to Michael Savage the other night and he brought up some interesting questions including how did these two brothers live and what did they live on?

If he is a disciplined terrorists he will not admit he is part of a larger organization.

Should we look into waterboarding to see if he knows anything?

Excellent Post

I too am very curious about how how did these two brothers live and what did they live on?

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Allbutbroke

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Posted: Apr. 22, 2013 - 3:06 PM ET #19

Quote Originally Posted by Randisist:

I came back too strong and for that I do apologize. Need to cut back on the java...

Nope, you didn't - got what I deserved. I hope the investigation yields many more answers for everyone, especially the victims. All the best.

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Popo21

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Posted: Apr. 22, 2013 - 3:11 PM ET #20

Simple way to clear all this up.

The FBI claims to have a video of then dropping the bags. Show it.

There is no evidence about a shootout other than a grainy dark video from blocks away hearing noise. Show the dashcam of the police cars showing the brothers shooting at them and throwing bombs.
Show the film of the MIT officer's dashcam since they reportedly ambushed him while he was in his car.

Easy as that. Show that film and all doubt can be removed

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SirJohnDrake

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Posted: Apr. 22, 2013 - 4:02 PM ET #21

No way those two homicidal hoodlums were framed. If they were why didn't they just call the authorities telling them they were going to give themselves up to prove they got the wrong guys?

I mean if it was me and I saw they had my photo all over the news media claiming I was the bomber and I knew I wasn't I would for sure let them know I was giving myself up to prove they got the wrong guy.

So much for that "framed" theory...lol

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Slobbasaurus

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Posted: Apr. 22, 2013 - 5:54 PM ET #22

Quote Originally Posted by ckattar8:

i think he was framed for many reasons...... I live in boston and I was all over the news abc/cnn/sportscenter I WAS right there....... And this is still my beliefs

1) They have pics of EVERYTHING, the marathon, the boat with him,the 711, him on campus,

The government can SAY (they found explosives in their house), THEY shot and killed the mit officer) , the government can say WHATEVER they want and NO ONE is going to debate or not believe it........

2) There is ABSOLUTLEY not 1 person besides the uncle saying negative things about them, people HATED bin laden and knew him...... His friends are actually sticking up saying he was framed he'd never do that.... ( just a little fishy)

3) There was a fb swirling with him on the ground after the boat getting oxygen with blood everywhere, saying he was shot..... Now photos have surfaced from a helicopter cam SHOWING him standing up and getting out with negotiatiors no blood in site... And all of a sudden he has throat injuries and can not speak.....

4) If I was those kids and the FBI put my picture up on the tv saying i was a terrorist, what are we going to do ? Call the cops? NO , theyre going to get us (if we were framed) throw us in a cell the rest of our life regardless if we did it or not... They had to get the hell out of dodge.... Just as any of us would 1100%.... If they truly did shoot at cops and kill that cop then theyre guilty , but anyone can record gun shots with no voices or faces and say it was a massive assault......

I dont buy it

5) There was also a video on the web last night SHOWING Jahar walking away with his backpack ON..... The same pics the fbi used they just zoomed in and to the side and you can clearly see the backpack is ON .....But 2 navy seals with special backpacks with patches were there and show them leaving the scene with NO backpacks on, and their specialized packs were in pictures matching.......

Its very fishy to me, Do I think the government is corrupt YES, do I want to believe it NO.......... But I dont know what to make with all this to be completley honest

That's some crazy sh!t that you're smoking!

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Quote Originally Posted by ckattar8:

i think he was framed for many reasons...... I live in boston and I was all over the news abc/cnn/sportscenter I WAS right there....... And this is still my beliefs

1) They have pics of EVERYTHING, the marathon, the boat with him,the 711, him on campus,

The government can SAY (they found explosives in their house), THEY shot and killed the mit officer) , the government can say WHATEVER they want and NO ONE is going to debate or not believe it........

2) There is ABSOLUTLEY not 1 person besides the uncle saying negative things about them, people HATED bin laden and knew him...... His friends are actually sticking up saying he was framed he'd never do that.... ( just a little fishy)

3) There was a fb swirling with him on the ground after the boat getting oxygen with blood everywhere, saying he was shot..... Now photos have surfaced from a helicopter cam SHOWING him standing up and getting out with negotiatiors no blood in site... And all of a sudden he has throat injuries and can not speak.....

4) If I was those kids and the FBI put my picture up on the tv saying i was a terrorist, what are we going to do ? Call the cops? NO , theyre going to get us (if we were framed) throw us in a cell the rest of our life regardless if we did it or not... They had to get the hell out of dodge.... Just as any of us would 1100%.... If they truly did shoot at cops and kill that cop then theyre guilty , but anyone can record gun shots with no voices or faces and say it was a massive assault......

I dont buy it

5) There was also a video on the web last night SHOWING Jahar walking away with his backpack ON..... The same pics the fbi used they just zoomed in and to the side and you can clearly see the backpack is ON .....But 2 navy seals with special backpacks with patches were there and show them leaving the scene with NO backpacks on, and their specialized packs were in pictures matching.......

Its very fishy to me, Do I think the government is corrupt YES, do I want to believe it NO.......... But I dont know what to make with all this to be completley honest

That's some crazy sh!t that you're smoking!

wmi799

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Posted: Apr. 22, 2013 - 6:24 PM ET #23

Quote Originally Posted by Slobbasaurus:

That's some crazy sh!t that you're smoking!

Doubt he is smoking anything. He just didn't take his meds today. The boy is about fifty cards shy of a full deck

Histrionic personality disorder. It's sad

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pucku27

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Posted: Apr. 22, 2013 - 6:33 PM ET #24

Quote Originally Posted by ckattar8:

i think he was framed for many reasons...... I live in boston and I was all over the news abc/cnn/sportscenter I WAS right there....... And this is still my beliefs

1) They have pics of EVERYTHING, the marathon, the boat with him,the 711, him on campus,

The government can SAY (they found explosives in their house), THEY shot and killed the mit officer) , the government can say WHATEVER they want and NO ONE is going to debate or not believe it........

2) There is ABSOLUTLEY not 1 person besides the uncle saying negative things about them, people HATED bin laden and knew him...... His friends are actually sticking up saying he was framed he'd never do that.... ( just a little fishy)

3) There was a fb swirling with him on the ground after the boat getting oxygen with blood everywhere, saying he was shot..... Now photos have surfaced from a helicopter cam SHOWING him standing up and getting out with negotiatiors no blood in site... And all of a sudden he has throat injuries and can not speak.....

4) If I was those kids and the FBI put my picture up on the tv saying i was a terrorist, what are we going to do ? Call the cops? NO , theyre going to get us (if we were framed) throw us in a cell the rest of our life regardless if we did it or not... They had to get the hell out of dodge.... Just as any of us would 1100%.... If they truly did shoot at cops and kill that cop then theyre guilty , but anyone can record gun shots with no voices or faces and say it was a massive assault......

I dont buy it

5) There was also a video on the web last night SHOWING Jahar walking away with his backpack ON..... The same pics the fbi used they just zoomed in and to the side and you can clearly see the backpack is ON .....But 2 navy seals with special backpacks with patches were there and show them leaving the scene with NO backpacks on, and their specialized packs were in pictures matching.......

Its very fishy to me, Do I think the government is corrupt YES, do I want to believe it NO.......... But I dont know what to make with all this to be completley honest

I HOPE THIS GUY IS ON THE FBI WATCH LIST.

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Quote Originally Posted by ckattar8:

i think he was framed for many reasons...... I live in boston and I was all over the news abc/cnn/sportscenter I WAS right there....... And this is still my beliefs

1) They have pics of EVERYTHING, the marathon, the boat with him,the 711, him on campus,

The government can SAY (they found explosives in their house), THEY shot and killed the mit officer) , the government can say WHATEVER they want and NO ONE is going to debate or not believe it........

2) There is ABSOLUTLEY not 1 person besides the uncle saying negative things about them, people HATED bin laden and knew him...... His friends are actually sticking up saying he was framed he'd never do that.... ( just a little fishy)

3) There was a fb swirling with him on the ground after the boat getting oxygen with blood everywhere, saying he was shot..... Now photos have surfaced from a helicopter cam SHOWING him standing up and getting out with negotiatiors no blood in site... And all of a sudden he has throat injuries and can not speak.....

4) If I was those kids and the FBI put my picture up on the tv saying i was a terrorist, what are we going to do ? Call the cops? NO , theyre going to get us (if we were framed) throw us in a cell the rest of our life regardless if we did it or not... They had to get the hell out of dodge.... Just as any of us would 1100%.... If they truly did shoot at cops and kill that cop then theyre guilty , but anyone can record gun shots with no voices or faces and say it was a massive assault......

I dont buy it

5) There was also a video on the web last night SHOWING Jahar walking away with his backpack ON..... The same pics the fbi used they just zoomed in and to the side and you can clearly see the backpack is ON .....But 2 navy seals with special backpacks with patches were there and show them leaving the scene with NO backpacks on, and their specialized packs were in pictures matching.......

Its very fishy to me, Do I think the government is corrupt YES, do I want to believe it NO.......... But I dont know what to make with all this to be completley honest

I HOPE THIS GUY IS ON THE FBI WATCH LIST.

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Posted: Apr. 22, 2013 - 6:52 PM ET #25

From what I read in Scals thread the suspects are white, if so we all know that white people dont get framed.

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