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    RickeM
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    Posted: Apr. 16, 2011 - 11:05 PM ET #201

    Quote Originally Posted by vanzack:

    And once again, nobody is feezing the money in your online poker account.

    Are you drunk, or mentally challenged, or both?

    If you are a US player and have money at PStars, you cannot withdraw it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by vanzack:

    And once again, nobody is feezing the money in your online poker account.

    Are you drunk, or mentally challenged, or both?

    If you are a US player and have money at PStars, you cannot withdraw it.
     
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    Posted: Apr. 16, 2011 - 11:06 PM ET #202

    Quote Originally Posted by vanzack:

    Eh, enough with you.

    More important things in play here.

    Go start your own thread on the subject, and make all the claims you want.  Seriously.  Go do it, and just stay out of this one.

    Jesus fucking Christ...you have got to be kidding,
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    Quote Originally Posted by vanzack:

    Eh, enough with you.

    More important things in play here.

    Go start your own thread on the subject, and make all the claims you want.  Seriously.  Go do it, and just stay out of this one.

    Jesus fucking Christ...you have got to be kidding,
     
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    Posted: Apr. 16, 2011 - 11:07 PM ET #203

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    Posted: Apr. 16, 2011 - 11:07 PM ET #204

    Right. Fly away vanzack.
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    Right. Fly away vanzack.
     
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    Posted: Apr. 16, 2011 - 11:08 PM ET #205

    Quote Originally Posted by RickeM:

    Hey vanzack if you are a US player you cannot withdraw money from Pokerstars right now. Get it? Wherever that money is, if you are a US player you cannot withdraw it. Is that simple enough for you?

    If you live outside the US you probably still can.


    1.  The DOJ didnt freeze your acct. 

    2.  You dont even know for sure what you are talking about.  You say "probably".  Just go over to twoplustwo and find out for yourself if you can withdraw from Europe or not.  Im onot going to fill you in, but if you are tryign to be the new foremost gambling expert on covers - you might want to be sure of things you post.

    Im done arguing with you.  Its silly, and I feel stupid for it - especially when this is important - and you are not.  So this is the last response to you - go read post #201, and please take it to heart.

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    Quote Originally Posted by RickeM:

    Hey vanzack if you are a US player you cannot withdraw money from Pokerstars right now. Get it? Wherever that money is, if you are a US player you cannot withdraw it. Is that simple enough for you?

    If you live outside the US you probably still can.


    1.  The DOJ didnt freeze your acct. 

    2.  You dont even know for sure what you are talking about.  You say "probably".  Just go over to twoplustwo and find out for yourself if you can withdraw from Europe or not.  Im onot going to fill you in, but if you are tryign to be the new foremost gambling expert on covers - you might want to be sure of things you post.

    Im done arguing with you.  Its silly, and I feel stupid for it - especially when this is important - and you are not.  So this is the last response to you - go read post #201, and please take it to heart.

     
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    Posted: Apr. 16, 2011 - 11:11 PM ET #206

    Quote Originally Posted by vanzack:

    1.  The DOJ didnt freeze your acct. 

    2.  You dont even know for sure what you are talking about.  You say "probably".  Just go over to twoplustwo and find out for yourself if you can withdraw from Europe or not.  Im onot going to fill you in, but if you are tryign to be the new foremost gambling expert on covers - you might want to be sure of things you post.

    Im done arguing with you.  Its silly, and I feel stupid for it - especially when this is important - and you are not.  So this is the last response to you - go read post #201, and please take it to heart.



    Oh boy. You are speculating yourself.


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    Quote Originally Posted by vanzack:

    1.  The DOJ didnt freeze your acct. 

    2.  You dont even know for sure what you are talking about.  You say "probably".  Just go over to twoplustwo and find out for yourself if you can withdraw from Europe or not.  Im onot going to fill you in, but if you are tryign to be the new foremost gambling expert on covers - you might want to be sure of things you post.

    Im done arguing with you.  Its silly, and I feel stupid for it - especially when this is important - and you are not.  So this is the last response to you - go read post #201, and please take it to heart.



    Oh boy. You are speculating yourself.


     
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    Posted: Apr. 16, 2011 - 11:12 PM ET #207

    Quote Originally Posted by vanzack:

    1.  The DOJ didnt freeze your acct. 

    2.  You dont even know for sure what you are talking about.  You say "probably".  Just go over to twoplustwo and find out for yourself if you can withdraw from Europe or not.  Im onot going to fill you in, but if you are tryign to be the new foremost gambling expert on covers - you might want to be sure of things you post.

    Im done arguing with you.  Its silly, and I feel stupid for it - especially when this is important - and you are not.  So this is the last response to you - go read post #201, and please take it to heart.

    Wrong use of words, whatever. Forgive me.


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    Quote Originally Posted by vanzack:

    1.  The DOJ didnt freeze your acct. 

    2.  You dont even know for sure what you are talking about.  You say "probably".  Just go over to twoplustwo and find out for yourself if you can withdraw from Europe or not.  Im onot going to fill you in, but if you are tryign to be the new foremost gambling expert on covers - you might want to be sure of things you post.

    Im done arguing with you.  Its silly, and I feel stupid for it - especially when this is important - and you are not.  So this is the last response to you - go read post #201, and please take it to heart.

    Wrong use of words, whatever. Forgive me.


     
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    Posted: Apr. 16, 2011 - 11:14 PM ET #208

    Quote Originally Posted by vanzack:

    1.  The DOJ didnt freeze your acct. 

    2.  You dont even know for sure what you are talking about.  You say "probably".  Just go over to twoplustwo and find out for yourself if you can withdraw from Europe or not.  Im onot going to fill you in, but if you are tryign to be the new foremost gambling expert on covers - you might want to be sure of things you post.

    Im done arguing with you.  Its silly, and I feel stupid for it - especially when this is important - and you are not.  So this is the last response to you - go read post #201, and please take it to heart.

    Go with that feeling.
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    Quote Originally Posted by vanzack:

    1.  The DOJ didnt freeze your acct. 

    2.  You dont even know for sure what you are talking about.  You say "probably".  Just go over to twoplustwo and find out for yourself if you can withdraw from Europe or not.  Im onot going to fill you in, but if you are tryign to be the new foremost gambling expert on covers - you might want to be sure of things you post.

    Im done arguing with you.  Its silly, and I feel stupid for it - especially when this is important - and you are not.  So this is the last response to you - go read post #201, and please take it to heart.

    Go with that feeling.
     
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    Posted: Apr. 16, 2011 - 11:15 PM ET #209

    Quote Originally Posted by vanzack:

    BTW dumbfuck - why dont you go on record and state whether you would advise having money in books that accept americans like Bookmaker or Greek?

    You are like the guy who bashes a guy who makes picks, but never makes a pick himself.

    Tell us how you would advise a guy betting the NBA playoffs with his whole bankroll split between BM and Greek.

    Go on record.

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    Quote Originally Posted by vanzack:

    BTW dumbfuck - why dont you go on record and state whether you would advise having money in books that accept americans like Bookmaker or Greek?

    You are like the guy who bashes a guy who makes picks, but never makes a pick himself.

    Tell us how you would advise a guy betting the NBA playoffs with his whole bankroll split between BM and Greek.

    Go on record.

     
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    Posted: Apr. 16, 2011 - 11:20 PM ET #210

    Quote Originally Posted by vanzack:

    I wouldn't advise having any money in any sort of online gambling account if you live in the US at this point.


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    Quote Originally Posted by vanzack:

    I wouldn't advise having any money in any sort of online gambling account if you live in the US at this point.


     
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    Posted: Apr. 16, 2011 - 11:24 PM ET #211

    Let me rephrase that before you twist it all up.

    If you live the US I would not deposit money in an online SB or online poker site right now, or any online gambling website.

    If you have money in a sports book or poker site or whatever I would get it out, or try and get it out a.s.a.p.

    That good enough? 
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    Let me rephrase that before you twist it all up.

    If you live the US I would not deposit money in an online SB or online poker site right now, or any online gambling website.

    If you have money in a sports book or poker site or whatever I would get it out, or try and get it out a.s.a.p.

    That good enough? 
     
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    Posted: Apr. 16, 2011 - 11:40 PM ET #212

    I wanted so badly to take the hawks with the 8.5 points, but didnt deposit because of all this. Really sucks ass.
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    I wanted so badly to take the hawks with the 8.5 points, but didnt deposit because of all this. Really sucks ass.
     
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    Posted: Apr. 16, 2011 - 11:57 PM ET #213

    The whole problem of being a gambler located in america is one of inconvenience...all of the money transfer problems, citizenship problems and bank account problems can be solved by forming corporations or LLC's in international regions...open up bank accounts and even lines of credit using the LLC if you have a bit of equity as collateral. Specifically, a region, country (or principality) where one would prospectively look to incorporate should govern itself loosely in the model of the European Union....encouraging free trade between sister states with a potential common currency.  It takes a lot of effort and research to get set up correctly, but it can be and is done.

    Definitely do not want home base to be in Africa somewhere..... in case you have to show up to your bank in person for a withdrawal.

    Not to be a fearmonger, but I will go on record and say that we will see some individual internet bettors get pinched in the next few years....even though there is nothing at all illegal about betting with an internet sports book or placing a bet via your laptop. 

     I firmly believe the feds, DOJ, government, or whatever you want to call them sends messages......there just wont be enough public outcry against the prosecution of a few unlucky assholes that the feds decide to hammer in public to send a message to the rest of us....basically to  cater to the lobbyists that want us all to go to vegas to get our action and attempt to conquer horse racing.

    How the fuck is TVG gambling legal in nearly every state....I can place a wager with my dishnetwork remote control on a 20-1 nag in the 5th at los alamitos, but I can't send my money to another country and take proposition bets against thier oddsmakers. Wow.

     

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    The whole problem of being a gambler located in america is one of inconvenience...all of the money transfer problems, citizenship problems and bank account problems can be solved by forming corporations or LLC's in international regions...open up bank accounts and even lines of credit using the LLC if you have a bit of equity as collateral. Specifically, a region, country (or principality) where one would prospectively look to incorporate should govern itself loosely in the model of the European Union....encouraging free trade between sister states with a potential common currency.  It takes a lot of effort and research to get set up correctly, but it can be and is done.

    Definitely do not want home base to be in Africa somewhere..... in case you have to show up to your bank in person for a withdrawal.

    Not to be a fearmonger, but I will go on record and say that we will see some individual internet bettors get pinched in the next few years....even though there is nothing at all illegal about betting with an internet sports book or placing a bet via your laptop. 

     I firmly believe the feds, DOJ, government, or whatever you want to call them sends messages......there just wont be enough public outcry against the prosecution of a few unlucky assholes that the feds decide to hammer in public to send a message to the rest of us....basically to  cater to the lobbyists that want us all to go to vegas to get our action and attempt to conquer horse racing.

    How the fuck is TVG gambling legal in nearly every state....I can place a wager with my dishnetwork remote control on a 20-1 nag in the 5th at los alamitos, but I can't send my money to another country and take proposition bets against thier oddsmakers. Wow.

     

     
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    Quote Originally Posted by bigvern1013:

    The whole problem of being a gambler located in america is one of inconvenience...all of the money transfer problems, citizenship problems and bank account problems can be solved by forming corporations or LLC's in international regions...open up bank accounts and even lines of credit using the LLC if you have a bit of equity as collateral. Specifically, a region, country (or principality) where one would prospectively look to incorporate should govern itself loosely in the model of the European Union....encouraging free trade between sister states with a potential common currency.  It takes a lot of effort and research to get set up correctly, but it can be and is done.

    Definitely do not want home base to be in Africa somewhere..... in case you have to show up to your bank in person for a withdrawal.

    Not to be a fearmonger, but I will go on record and say that we will see some individual internet bettors get pinched in the next few years....even though there is nothing at all illegal about betting with an internet sports book or placing a bet via your laptop. 

     I firmly believe the feds, DOJ, government, or whatever you want to call them sends messages......there just wont be enough public outcry against the prosecution of a few unlucky assholes that the feds decide to hammer in public to send a message to the rest of us....basically to  cater to the lobbyists that want us all to go to vegas to get our action and attempt to conquer horse racing.

    How the fuck is TVG gambling legal in nearly every state....I can place a wager with my dishnetwork remote control on a 20-1 nag in the 5th at los alamitos, but I can't send my money to another country and take proposition bets against thier oddsmakers. Wow.

    there is no question that Harry Reid's putrid stink is all over this ....

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    The whole problem of being a gambler located in america is one of inconvenience...all of the money transfer problems, citizenship problems and bank account problems can be solved by forming corporations or LLC's in international regions...open up bank accounts and even lines of credit using the LLC if you have a bit of equity as collateral. Specifically, a region, country (or principality) where one would prospectively look to incorporate should govern itself loosely in the model of the European Union....encouraging free trade between sister states with a potential common currency.  It takes a lot of effort and research to get set up correctly, but it can be and is done.

    Definitely do not want home base to be in Africa somewhere..... in case you have to show up to your bank in person for a withdrawal.

    Not to be a fearmonger, but I will go on record and say that we will see some individual internet bettors get pinched in the next few years....even though there is nothing at all illegal about betting with an internet sports book or placing a bet via your laptop. 

     I firmly believe the feds, DOJ, government, or whatever you want to call them sends messages......there just wont be enough public outcry against the prosecution of a few unlucky assholes that the feds decide to hammer in public to send a message to the rest of us....basically to  cater to the lobbyists that want us all to go to vegas to get our action and attempt to conquer horse racing.

    How the fuck is TVG gambling legal in nearly every state....I can place a wager with my dishnetwork remote control on a 20-1 nag in the 5th at los alamitos, but I can't send my money to another country and take proposition bets against thier oddsmakers. Wow.

    there is no question that Harry Reid's putrid stink is all over this ....

     
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    Quote Originally Posted by vanzack:

    Richard - respectfully - please take the political (repubs vs dems) bullshit elsewhere.  Start your own thread and post in it.  Neither side has their hands clean on this one.

     

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    Richard - respectfully - please take the political (repubs vs dems) bullshit elsewhere.  Start your own thread and post in it.  Neither side has their hands clean on this one.

     

     
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    who cares...the mlb forum is gettin whipped and dicked anyways...
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    I'm obviously a Canadian player but i've been playing on pokerstars last night and tonight and obviously there's been no americans.  I normally play sit n go's and have to say they've been taking forever to fill up.   Went to play a $0.25/$.50 cash game tonight and there was only 1 table with more than 7 players. 

    I also withdrew 80% of my account last night just to be safe and it cleared within 10 minutes to my instadebit account. 

    Hope everything works out for you guys if you have money tied up in these sites.  I can't believe the shit your gov't gets away with and if Harper gets a majority gov't in Canada in 3 weeks we won't be far behind. 
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    I'm obviously a Canadian player but i've been playing on pokerstars last night and tonight and obviously there's been no americans.  I normally play sit n go's and have to say they've been taking forever to fill up.   Went to play a $0.25/$.50 cash game tonight and there was only 1 table with more than 7 players. 

    I also withdrew 80% of my account last night just to be safe and it cleared within 10 minutes to my instadebit account. 

    Hope everything works out for you guys if you have money tied up in these sites.  I can't believe the shit your gov't gets away with and if Harper gets a majority gov't in Canada in 3 weeks we won't be far behind. 
     
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    Van, 

    I am not sure if you have read some of the threads over at 2+2, specifically THIS one. I was wondering if you knew anything about or could explain the ground the sites might take when saying poker is a game of skill/luck. The quote from the law is..

     "Contest of chance" means any contest, game, gaming scheme or gaming device in which the outcome depends in a material degree upon an element of chance, notwithstanding that skill of the contestants may also be a factor therein."

    I was just wondering if sports betting is considered a game of skill/luck in the eyes of the law? If any sports books got in the same trouble, would they argue the same the poker sites are going to? Thanks
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    Van, 

    I am not sure if you have read some of the threads over at 2+2, specifically THIS one. I was wondering if you knew anything about or could explain the ground the sites might take when saying poker is a game of skill/luck. The quote from the law is..

     "Contest of chance" means any contest, game, gaming scheme or gaming device in which the outcome depends in a material degree upon an element of chance, notwithstanding that skill of the contestants may also be a factor therein."

    I was just wondering if sports betting is considered a game of skill/luck in the eyes of the law? If any sports books got in the same trouble, would they argue the same the poker sites are going to? Thanks
     
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    from gambling911

    Absolute Poker can now be found at www.absolutepoker.eu. US players can still play for real cash.
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    Absolute Poker can now be found at www.absolutepoker.eu. US players can still play for real cash.
     
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    PokerStars primary URL becomes PokerStars.EU following .com domain seizure by US feds
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    Quote Originally Posted by yuice20:

    Van, 

    I am not sure if you have read some of the threads over at 2+2, specifically THIS one. I was wondering if you knew anything about or could explain the ground the sites might take when saying poker is a game of skill/luck. The quote from the law is..

     "Contest of chance" means any contest, game, gaming scheme or gaming device in which the outcome depends in a material degree upon an element of chance, notwithstanding that skill of the contestants may also be a factor therein."

    I was just wondering if sports betting is considered a game of skill/luck in the eyes of the law? If any sports books got in the same trouble, would they argue the same the poker sites are going to? Thanks


    I'd like to see someone prove that poker is a game of chance in a court of law.  Good fucking luck. 
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    Van, 

    I am not sure if you have read some of the threads over at 2+2, specifically THIS one. I was wondering if you knew anything about or could explain the ground the sites might take when saying poker is a game of skill/luck. The quote from the law is..

     "Contest of chance" means any contest, game, gaming scheme or gaming device in which the outcome depends in a material degree upon an element of chance, notwithstanding that skill of the contestants may also be a factor therein."

    I was just wondering if sports betting is considered a game of skill/luck in the eyes of the law? If any sports books got in the same trouble, would they argue the same the poker sites are going to? Thanks


    I'd like to see someone prove that poker is a game of chance in a court of law.  Good fucking luck. 
     
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    Unless of course the judge is a republican .... zing
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    Quote Originally Posted by LeafsNeedD:

    I'm obviously a Canadian player but i've been playing on pokerstars last night and tonight and obviously there's been no americans.  I normally play sit n go's and have to say they've been taking forever to fill up.   Went to play a $0.25/$.50 cash game tonight and there was only 1 table with more than 7 players. 

    I also withdrew 80% of my account last night just to be safe and it cleared within 10 minutes to my instadebit account. 

    Hope everything works out for you guys if you have money tied up in these sites.  I can't believe the shit your gov't gets away with and if Harper gets a majority gov't in Canada in 3 weeks we won't be far behind. 

     

    Cite your source please.

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    Quote Originally Posted by LeafsNeedD:

    I'm obviously a Canadian player but i've been playing on pokerstars last night and tonight and obviously there's been no americans.  I normally play sit n go's and have to say they've been taking forever to fill up.   Went to play a $0.25/$.50 cash game tonight and there was only 1 table with more than 7 players. 

    I also withdrew 80% of my account last night just to be safe and it cleared within 10 minutes to my instadebit account. 

    Hope everything works out for you guys if you have money tied up in these sites.  I can't believe the shit your gov't gets away with and if Harper gets a majority gov't in Canada in 3 weeks we won't be far behind. 

     

    Cite your source please.

     
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    Posted: Apr. 17, 2011 - 2:26 AM ET #224

    Umm ... his record?  The Karl Rovian nature of his gov't?  His urgency to get big corp suckiing his cock so multi-billion dollar companies pay no tax in Canada either? 


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    Umm ... his record?  The Karl Rovian nature of his gov't?  His urgency to get big corp suckiing his cock so multi-billion dollar companies pay no tax in Canada either? 


     
     
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    Quote Originally Posted by LeafsNeedD:

    Umm ... his record?  The Karl Rovian nature of his gov't?  His urgency to get big corp suckiing his cock so multi-billion dollar companies pay no tax in Canada either? 



    What record as it pertains to internet gambling?

    What Rovian tactics?

    Lowering income tax of big business has helped Canada weather this economic storm. Keeping employment stable and relatively high.

    Harming Internet Gaming entities is contrary to your opinion that Harper sucks these companies cocks.
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    Quote Originally Posted by LeafsNeedD:

    Umm ... his record?  The Karl Rovian nature of his gov't?  His urgency to get big corp suckiing his cock so multi-billion dollar companies pay no tax in Canada either? 



    What record as it pertains to internet gambling?

    What Rovian tactics?

    Lowering income tax of big business has helped Canada weather this economic storm. Keeping employment stable and relatively high.

    Harming Internet Gaming entities is contrary to your opinion that Harper sucks these companies cocks.
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