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My pet peeve with the Steve Bartman incident

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bartman got raw deal straight up..No one remembers the gonzalez error that should have been a DP and preserved 3-1 lead with 3 outs to go.
 
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It isnt that noone remembers. Things just happen in sequence, and if Alou catches that ball, he probably doesnt hit that grounder to Gonzalez.

They need someone to blame

He was in the wrong place at the wrong time

To be blunt I cant blame them too much for heckling the guy, its the fucking NLCS, are you a blind donkey? Get out of the way and let the outfielder try to catch the ball. Its not like he was 6 rows deep in the stands, Alou had a chance to catch the ball.
 
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Quote Originally Posted by D_Unit:

The classless hatred that cub fans displayed towards Bartman has me wishing those scumbags never get the enjoyment of seeing the cubs in the world series. Just utterly digusting and pathetic, How much of a loser, low self-esteem, POS do you have to be to treat a guy like that. A shame on the media and Fox for making it a bigger deal than it really was. Alex Gonzales would've ended the inning if not for his blunder.

Nothing to worry about. The loveable losers from Chicago will never win a world series.

 
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Actually I hope the Cubs do win a World Series so Bartman can go back to living a normal life. Buckner was cleansed after the Bo Sox came through I could only hope the Cubs could break through and free Bartman.

It would also be pretty cool if they gave the ball used for the final out to Bartman. Now that would be classy.
 
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Bottom line...

That should NEVER happen on a team's home field.



I am a die-hard Red Sox fan and can tell you with 100% certainty
that would NEVER have happened at Fenway Park.  A Boston player would be given every opportunity to grab a ball without ANY interference. 

On the other hand, an OPPOSING player trying to make that catch would get five knuckles in the jaws.

NO BULLSHIT
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Quote Originally Posted by TheGoldenGoose:



Bottom line...

That should NEVER happen on a team's home field.



I am a die-hard Red Sox fan and can tell you with 100% certainty
that would NEVER have happened at Fenway Park.  A Boston player would be given every opportunity to grab a ball without ANY interference. 

On the other hand, an OPPOSING player trying to make that catch would get five knuckles in the jaws.

NO BULLSHIT

In a perfect world It should never happen.  True.  But the thing is that it did happen.  And if you recall or watch the documentary just about EVERY fan who was close enough to have a shot at that ball attempted to catch it.   It was just shit luck that he happened to touch it.

And while this is impossible to argue because it can never be proven I find it hard to believe that there is no way that fans of other teams would not of done the same. 

Lets face it the Cubs fans are recognized as die hard as any other out there and so I have a hard time believing that there is no way it could of happened in other stadiums. Bottom line is that it was a scenario that happened so quickly that they did not have time time to react rationally.  That is all.

 
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  That is such bs goldengoose. Your saying no one in Fenway Park would interfere? That's horsecrap..You can only speak for yourself, how do you know what the other thousands of people would do? Do you know them personally? They may not even be real Red Sox fans! You cannot speak for thousands of other people that you do not know, the fact that you even wrote that is ridiculous.
 
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Quote Originally Posted by JakeLake720:

  That is such bs goldengoose. Your saying no one in Fenway Park would interfere? That's horsecrap..You can only speak for yourself, how do you know what the other thousands of people would do? Do you know them personally? They may not even be real Red Sox fans! You cannot speak for thousands of other people that you do not know, the fact that you even wrote that is ridiculous.


You OBVIOUSLY don't know ANYTHING about the dedication of us Red Sox Fans.  Yes, I can GUARANTEE you that ARod or Tex would get a 5 knuckle sandwich if they tried to reach into a Fenway crowd for a ball.

That's the way it is in Boston.
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I feel bad for the guy.  Like many have said the 5 people around him could have just as easily interfered.  I didn't get to catch the end of the documentary... did they talk about what Bartman is doing now?
 
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Quote Originally Posted by TheGoldenGoose:



You OBVIOUSLY don't know ANYTHING about the dedication of us Red Sox Fans.  Yes, I can GUARANTEE you that ARod or Tex would get a 5 knuckle sandwich if they tried to reach into a Fenway crowd for a ball.

That's the way it is in Boston.

this is not the same as a cubs fan (or red sox fan) acting spontaneously when the opposing team hit the ball (which is what the entire section around Bartman did).

 
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why does everyone blame him? it looked like there was about 5 other people reaching for that ball at the same time and bounced off one of their hands first. i think they just looked at him because he looks like a serial killer living in his moms basement
 
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Quote Originally Posted by JakeLake720:

  That is such bs goldengoose. Your saying no one in Fenway Park would interfere? That's horsecrap..You can only speak for yourself, how do you know what the other thousands of people would do? Do you know them personally? They may not even be real Red Sox fans! You cannot speak for thousands of other people that you do not know, the fact that you even wrote that is ridiculous.


100% correct.
 
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Quote Originally Posted by HutchEmAll:

What shocks me is that none of the fans came to his aid or supported him.  If someone did that at a game I was at, I would have at least helped the best I could.  If a few people would have stood up for him, it might have helped stem the tide of the mob mentality. 

Even his friends (I bought 3 tickets to that game) left him out to dry.  Make matters worst nearly everyone in the stands were pointing at him including his friends.  Very much a lynch mob mentality.  What really shocks me is that Bartman breaks the mold of anyone who has fame (whether good or bad) and never cashed in on it.  The letter he wrote of how broken hearted he was and how he completely uprooted his life flat out blows my mind!

 
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Posted: #39

***he meaning Bartman brought three tickets to that game (not I for the record) is what I meants

 
 
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9 out of 10 people would reach for that ball, bartman was in the wrong place at the wrong time and it didnt help that he looked like a total geek
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