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    Joe Paterno Is Catching Too Much Heat.

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    Posted: Nov. 9, 2011 - 1:03 AM ET #101

    Quote Originally Posted by Suckitup:

    The number of people standing up for and supporting pedophiles and pedophile supporters on this site is sickening. 

    Yup, vegasveteran and others like them are clearly fucked in the head.

    I hope they aren’t pedophiles themselves, but it’s starting to look like that could be the case.

     

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    Quote Originally Posted by Suckitup:

    The number of people standing up for and supporting pedophiles and pedophile supporters on this site is sickening. 

    Yup, vegasveteran and others like them are clearly fucked in the head.

    I hope they aren’t pedophiles themselves, but it’s starting to look like that could be the case.

     

     
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    Posted: Nov. 9, 2011 - 1:04 AM ET #102

    Quote Originally Posted by VegasVeteran:



    Once again check the facts. Joe Paterno did not give him an office. Penn State University granted him all those privileges. Under his retirement package from the university.

    Get your facts straight 1st then come argue.


    Do you really think the most powerful man at Penn State had no say who had an office in his field house?

    It’s pretty obvious at this point you aren’t playing with a full deck.

    Do some research and at least attempt to know what the hell you’re blathering about.  Unless of course you enjoy coming off as a complete moron.  If that’s the case then keep doing what you’re doing.

     

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    Quote Originally Posted by VegasVeteran:



    Once again check the facts. Joe Paterno did not give him an office. Penn State University granted him all those privileges. Under his retirement package from the university.

    Get your facts straight 1st then come argue.


    Do you really think the most powerful man at Penn State had no say who had an office in his field house?

    It’s pretty obvious at this point you aren’t playing with a full deck.

    Do some research and at least attempt to know what the hell you’re blathering about.  Unless of course you enjoy coming off as a complete moron.  If that’s the case then keep doing what you’re doing.

     

     
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    Posted: Nov. 9, 2011 - 1:05 AM ET #103

    There are no facts that state what McQueary told Paterno. Whatever was told to him he reported it to his superiors.

    Why would he keep him around?? Maybe because he was an honorable human being and was good at his job.


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    There are no facts that state what McQueary told Paterno. Whatever was told to him he reported it to his superiors.

    Why would he keep him around?? Maybe because he was an honorable human being and was good at his job.


     
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    Posted: Nov. 9, 2011 - 1:07 AM ET #104

    Quote Originally Posted by StraightShooter:

    Do you really think the most powerful man at Penn State had no say who had an office in his field house?

    It’s pretty obvious at this point you aren’t playing with a full deck.

    Do some research and at least attempt to know what the hell you’re blathering about.  Unless of course you enjoy coming off as a complete moron.  If that’s the case then keep doing what you’re doing.

     



    Keep spouting off your OPINION.  I'll keep stating FACTS.


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    Quote Originally Posted by StraightShooter:

    Do you really think the most powerful man at Penn State had no say who had an office in his field house?

    It’s pretty obvious at this point you aren’t playing with a full deck.

    Do some research and at least attempt to know what the hell you’re blathering about.  Unless of course you enjoy coming off as a complete moron.  If that’s the case then keep doing what you’re doing.

     



    Keep spouting off your OPINION.  I'll keep stating FACTS.


     
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    Posted: Nov. 9, 2011 - 1:09 AM ET #105

    Quote Originally Posted by VegasVeteran:

    There are no facts that state what McQueary told Paterno. Whatever was told to him he reported it to his superiors.

    Why would he keep him around?? Maybe because he was an honorable human being and was good at his job.




    Would an honorable human being accuse someone of anally raping a 10 year old in the shower?  Again, he either thought Sandusky was anally raping 10 year olds in the shower or he was employing a dishonorable liar.  You state that he kept and promoted McQueary because was was honorable.  Therefore, he kept silent about Sandusky, despite believing Sandusky was a child rapist, knowing that he brought kids to his locker room and knowing that he had access galore to kids through his program.

    It's one or the other.
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    Quote Originally Posted by VegasVeteran:

    There are no facts that state what McQueary told Paterno. Whatever was told to him he reported it to his superiors.

    Why would he keep him around?? Maybe because he was an honorable human being and was good at his job.




    Would an honorable human being accuse someone of anally raping a 10 year old in the shower?  Again, he either thought Sandusky was anally raping 10 year olds in the shower or he was employing a dishonorable liar.  You state that he kept and promoted McQueary because was was honorable.  Therefore, he kept silent about Sandusky, despite believing Sandusky was a child rapist, knowing that he brought kids to his locker room and knowing that he had access galore to kids through his program.

    It's one or the other.
     
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    Posted: Nov. 9, 2011 - 1:09 AM ET #106

    I could call you and others all kinds of names. It would make me feel good but would be worthless.

    Just the facts.


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    I could call you and others all kinds of names. It would make me feel good but would be worthless.

    Just the facts.


     
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    Posted: Nov. 9, 2011 - 1:09 AM ET #107

    Quote Originally Posted by VegasVeteran:

    Just keep speculating. that solves everything.

    The police declined to charge him. I'm sure calling them again would've helped.

    What about Sandusky's wife?? Think she would stay married to him knowing he was molesting young boys?? Oh wow. If he hid it from his wife you think he might have hid it from his friend Mr. Paterno????

    Ever think about that??

    Joe Paterno is one of the only Penn State employees to come out and talk about all this. He is a stand up and honorable guy.

    If any of these facts are wrong please let me know. Not speculation but facts.


    Did someone come to his wife telling her she saw her husband raping a little boy in the Penn State locker room and then the wife went along with a cover up?

    If she did then she is as big of a piece of shit as Paterno.

    Going along with the cover up of the activities of an active pedophile because you don’t want to tarnish the good name of your program makes him a "stand up and honorable guy?"

    You truly are fucked in the head.  Stay away from kids, pervert.

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    Quote Originally Posted by VegasVeteran:

    Just keep speculating. that solves everything.

    The police declined to charge him. I'm sure calling them again would've helped.

    What about Sandusky's wife?? Think she would stay married to him knowing he was molesting young boys?? Oh wow. If he hid it from his wife you think he might have hid it from his friend Mr. Paterno????

    Ever think about that??

    Joe Paterno is one of the only Penn State employees to come out and talk about all this. He is a stand up and honorable guy.

    If any of these facts are wrong please let me know. Not speculation but facts.


    Did someone come to his wife telling her she saw her husband raping a little boy in the Penn State locker room and then the wife went along with a cover up?

    If she did then she is as big of a piece of shit as Paterno.

    Going along with the cover up of the activities of an active pedophile because you don’t want to tarnish the good name of your program makes him a "stand up and honorable guy?"

    You truly are fucked in the head.  Stay away from kids, pervert.

     
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    Posted: Nov. 9, 2011 - 1:10 AM ET #108

    Quote Originally Posted by depeche2:



    If Mr. Paterno thought maybe it wasn't true, then he had to believe he had an employee, McQueary, who was capable of making false child rape allegations.  Why would he keep him around?  The two things just don't mesh.  It's one or the other and either way Paterno's judgment is startlingly anf horrificly bad.  Not sure really how anyone can see it any other way.

    Good point.  Let’s see the pedophile enthusiast vegasveteran answer that one. 

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    If Mr. Paterno thought maybe it wasn't true, then he had to believe he had an employee, McQueary, who was capable of making false child rape allegations.  Why would he keep him around?  The two things just don't mesh.  It's one or the other and either way Paterno's judgment is startlingly anf horrificly bad.  Not sure really how anyone can see it any other way.

    Good point.  Let’s see the pedophile enthusiast vegasveteran answer that one. 

     
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    Posted: Nov. 9, 2011 - 1:12 AM ET #109

    Quote Originally Posted by VegasVeteran:



    Keep spouting off your OPINION.  I'll keep stating FACTS.


    I think it’s safe to say at this point that you don’t even know what “fact” means.

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    Quote Originally Posted by VegasVeteran:



    Keep spouting off your OPINION.  I'll keep stating FACTS.


    I think it’s safe to say at this point that you don’t even know what “fact” means.

     
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    Posted: Nov. 9, 2011 - 1:16 AM ET #110

    I've stated the facts. You guys call me names and blurt out speculation.

    If that's wrong please let me know.

    The fact is Joe Pa was alerted about an incident AFTER he was retired from Paterno's staff. he reported the incident to his superiors who lied and tried to cover it up.
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    I've stated the facts. You guys call me names and blurt out speculation.

    If that's wrong please let me know.

    The fact is Joe Pa was alerted about an incident AFTER he was retired from Paterno's staff. he reported the incident to his superiors who lied and tried to cover it up.
     
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    Quote Originally Posted by VegasVeteran:

    There are no facts that state what McQueary told Paterno. Whatever was told to him he reported it to his superiors.

    Why would he keep him around?? Maybe because he was an honorable human being and was good at his job.




    From the grand jury indictment: Paterno reported to Curley that "the graduate assistant had seen Jerry Sandusky in the Lasch Building showers fondling or doing something of a sexual nature to a young boy".

    Paterno testified in from the of the grand jury.  This is what he testified to.  Those are FACTS.

    So again, it was very clear that McQueary had accsed Sandusky of child molestation.  If he thought there was any chance whatsoever that McQueary had not been honest about this, then how could he not only keep him on his staff, but promote him and continue to work with him to the present?  He either did that, or he knew 100% that it was true and then he was silent allowing this to happen despite his knowledge.

    It's one or the other.  Based on Paterno's own testimony, it;s one or the other. 
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    Quote Originally Posted by VegasVeteran:

    There are no facts that state what McQueary told Paterno. Whatever was told to him he reported it to his superiors.

    Why would he keep him around?? Maybe because he was an honorable human being and was good at his job.




    From the grand jury indictment: Paterno reported to Curley that "the graduate assistant had seen Jerry Sandusky in the Lasch Building showers fondling or doing something of a sexual nature to a young boy".

    Paterno testified in from the of the grand jury.  This is what he testified to.  Those are FACTS.

    So again, it was very clear that McQueary had accsed Sandusky of child molestation.  If he thought there was any chance whatsoever that McQueary had not been honest about this, then how could he not only keep him on his staff, but promote him and continue to work with him to the present?  He either did that, or he knew 100% that it was true and then he was silent allowing this to happen despite his knowledge.

    It's one or the other.  Based on Paterno's own testimony, it;s one or the other. 
     
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    Posted: Nov. 9, 2011 - 1:23 AM ET #112

    Quote Originally Posted by VegasVeteran:

    There are no facts that state what McQueary told Paterno. Whatever was told to him he reported it to his superiors.

    Why would he keep him around?? Maybe because he was an honorable human being and was good at his job.




    What is it that you do not comprehend you fucking dolt?  Paterno was told by McCoward that a 10yr old was getting his penis sucked by Sandusky in the locker-room shower, and JoePinHead simply shrugged his shoulders....oh, wait he told the AD, excuse me...Hey, Mr. ad...someone told me that Jerry was seen sucking a little -boys penis in the locker room...yeah, check that rumor out..now, let me get back to what is important: Penn St. football!! Yeah, i'm joepinhead a living legend here...I can't be bothered with alleged child molestation allegations of subordinates, unless of course it was MY grandchild or child...who gives a fuck? Penn St. football must go on.....

    FUCK YOU PATERNO!!
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    Quote Originally Posted by VegasVeteran:

    There are no facts that state what McQueary told Paterno. Whatever was told to him he reported it to his superiors.

    Why would he keep him around?? Maybe because he was an honorable human being and was good at his job.




    What is it that you do not comprehend you fucking dolt?  Paterno was told by McCoward that a 10yr old was getting his penis sucked by Sandusky in the locker-room shower, and JoePinHead simply shrugged his shoulders....oh, wait he told the AD, excuse me...Hey, Mr. ad...someone told me that Jerry was seen sucking a little -boys penis in the locker room...yeah, check that rumor out..now, let me get back to what is important: Penn St. football!! Yeah, i'm joepinhead a living legend here...I can't be bothered with alleged child molestation allegations of subordinates, unless of course it was MY grandchild or child...who gives a fuck? Penn St. football must go on.....

    FUCK YOU PATERNO!!
     
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    Posted: Nov. 9, 2011 - 1:23 AM ET #113

    Quote Originally Posted by VegasVeteran:

    I could call you and others all kinds of names. It would make me feel good but would be worthless.

    Just the facts.


    Wow.  What a thought provoking post.

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    Quote Originally Posted by VegasVeteran:

    I could call you and others all kinds of names. It would make me feel good but would be worthless.

    Just the facts.


    Wow.  What a thought provoking post.

     
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    Posted: Nov. 9, 2011 - 1:24 AM ET #114

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    This isn't fact but I believe Paterno believed McQueary's statement. He then reported this to his superiors. At this point Sandusky is no longer under Paterno.

    Paterno was advised of all of Sandusky's crimes after he retired. I'm not sure what more Joe Pa could've done.
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    This isn't fact but I believe Paterno believed McQueary's statement. He then reported this to his superiors. At this point Sandusky is no longer under Paterno.

    Paterno was advised of all of Sandusky's crimes after he retired. I'm not sure what more Joe Pa could've done.
     
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    Posted: Nov. 9, 2011 - 1:25 AM ET #116

    By the way, did anyone else realize that Penn State was a Catholic university?

    I think that would be funny if it weren't so sad and disgusting.
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    By the way, did anyone else realize that Penn State was a Catholic university?

    I think that would be funny if it weren't so sad and disgusting.
     
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    Posted: Nov. 9, 2011 - 1:26 AM ET #117

    Quote Originally Posted by Jon11:



    What is it that you do not comprehend you fucking dolt?  Paterno was told by McCoward that a 10yr old was getting his penis sucked by Sandusky in the locker-room shower, and JoePinHead simply shrugged his shoulders....oh, wait he told the AD, excuse me...Hey, Mr. ad...someone told me that Jerry was seen sucking a little -boys penis in the locker room...yeah, check that rumor out..now, let me get back to what is important: Penn St. football!! Yeah, i'm joepinhead a living legend here...I can't be bothered with alleged child molestation allegations of subordinates, unless of course it was MY grandchild or child...who gives a fuck? Penn St. football must go on.....

    FUCK YOU PATERNO!!


    Get your facts straight. he wasn't caught sucking his penis. he was fucking him in the ass.
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    What is it that you do not comprehend you fucking dolt?  Paterno was told by McCoward that a 10yr old was getting his penis sucked by Sandusky in the locker-room shower, and JoePinHead simply shrugged his shoulders....oh, wait he told the AD, excuse me...Hey, Mr. ad...someone told me that Jerry was seen sucking a little -boys penis in the locker room...yeah, check that rumor out..now, let me get back to what is important: Penn St. football!! Yeah, i'm joepinhead a living legend here...I can't be bothered with alleged child molestation allegations of subordinates, unless of course it was MY grandchild or child...who gives a fuck? Penn St. football must go on.....

    FUCK YOU PATERNO!!


    Get your facts straight. he wasn't caught sucking his penis. he was fucking him in the ass.
     
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    Posted: Nov. 9, 2011 - 1:27 AM ET #118

    Quote Originally Posted by depeche2:

    By the way, did anyone else realize that Penn State was a Catholic university?

    I think that would be funny if it weren't so sad and disgusting.


    I did not know that but it makes perfect sense now.
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    Quote Originally Posted by depeche2:

    By the way, did anyone else realize that Penn State was a Catholic university?

    I think that would be funny if it weren't so sad and disgusting.


    I did not know that but it makes perfect sense now.
     
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    Posted: Nov. 9, 2011 - 1:28 AM ET #119

    Quote Originally Posted by VegasVeteran:

    This isn't fact but I believe Paterno believed McQueary's statement. He then reported this to his superiors. At this point Sandusky is no longer under Paterno.

    Paterno was advised of all of Sandusky's crimes after he retired. I'm not sure what more Joe Pa could've done.


    Really?  I'm not sure what less he could've done.

    How about this, did he ever, even once, ever confront Sandusky about what he was told to get his side of the story.  Isn't that something more that he "could have done"?
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    This isn't fact but I believe Paterno believed McQueary's statement. He then reported this to his superiors. At this point Sandusky is no longer under Paterno.

    Paterno was advised of all of Sandusky's crimes after he retired. I'm not sure what more Joe Pa could've done.


    Really?  I'm not sure what less he could've done.

    How about this, did he ever, even once, ever confront Sandusky about what he was told to get his side of the story.  Isn't that something more that he "could have done"?
     
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    Posted: Nov. 9, 2011 - 1:28 AM ET #120

    Quote Originally Posted by VegasVeteran:

    This isn't fact but I believe Paterno believed McQueary's statement. He then reported this to his superiors. At this point Sandusky is no longer under Paterno.

    Paterno was advised of all of Sandusky's crimes after he retired. I'm not sure what more Joe Pa could've done.


    You're fucking stupid.
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    Quote Originally Posted by VegasVeteran:

    This isn't fact but I believe Paterno believed McQueary's statement. He then reported this to his superiors. At this point Sandusky is no longer under Paterno.

    Paterno was advised of all of Sandusky's crimes after he retired. I'm not sure what more Joe Pa could've done.


    You're fucking stupid.
     
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    Posted: Nov. 9, 2011 - 1:29 AM ET #121

    Quote Originally Posted by StraightShooter:

    Wow.  What a thought provoking post.



    Quite honestly all you have said is your opinion. No facts.
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    Wow.  What a thought provoking post.



    Quite honestly all you have said is your opinion. No facts.
     
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    Quote Originally Posted by VegasVeteran:



    I did not know that but it makes perfect sense now.


    Obviously it was a joke.  More sad than funny.
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    I did not know that but it makes perfect sense now.


    Obviously it was a joke.  More sad than funny.
     
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    Posted: Nov. 9, 2011 - 1:30 AM ET #123

    Quote Originally Posted by VegasVeteran:

    I've stated the facts. You guys call me names and blurt out speculation.

    If that's wrong please let me know.

    The fact is Joe Pa was alerted about an incident AFTER he was retired from Paterno's staff. he reported the incident to his superiors who lied and tried to cover it up.

    And Paterno knew of the cover up and went along with it (or he has an IQ under 75).

    He put protecting his program ahead of protecting little boys that his friend was sodomizing and forcing to perform oral sex on him.

    From when Paterno was told of the shower incident to when, according to the AG, Sandusky stopped raping young boys over 7 years had passed.

    7 years of sexually abusing little boys that Paterno could have stopped.

    And according to you that makes him a “stand up and honorable guy.”

    That says a lot about you and what you have in your heart.

    Stay away from kids, pervert 

     

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    Quote Originally Posted by VegasVeteran:

    I've stated the facts. You guys call me names and blurt out speculation.

    If that's wrong please let me know.

    The fact is Joe Pa was alerted about an incident AFTER he was retired from Paterno's staff. he reported the incident to his superiors who lied and tried to cover it up.

    And Paterno knew of the cover up and went along with it (or he has an IQ under 75).

    He put protecting his program ahead of protecting little boys that his friend was sodomizing and forcing to perform oral sex on him.

    From when Paterno was told of the shower incident to when, according to the AG, Sandusky stopped raping young boys over 7 years had passed.

    7 years of sexually abusing little boys that Paterno could have stopped.

    And according to you that makes him a “stand up and honorable guy.”

    That says a lot about you and what you have in your heart.

    Stay away from kids, pervert 

     

     
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    Posted: Nov. 9, 2011 - 1:30 AM ET #124

    Quote Originally Posted by VegasVeteran:



    Quite honestly all you have said is your opinion. No facts.


    Have you read the whole grandy jury presentment?  Those are facts.  Paterno was told by McQueary what he saw in no uncertain terms.  Fact.
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    Quite honestly all you have said is your opinion. No facts.


    Have you read the whole grandy jury presentment?  Those are facts.  Paterno was told by McQueary what he saw in no uncertain terms.  Fact.
     
     
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    Posted: Nov. 9, 2011 - 1:31 AM ET #125

    Quote Originally Posted by depeche2:



    Really?  I'm not sure what less he could've done.

    How about this, did he ever, even once, ever confront Sandusky about what he was told to get his side of the story.  Isn't that something more that he "could have done"?


    I don't know. Do you? Maybe he did. I would assume his wife didn't know. Maybe he fooled his friend Joe Pa. I go by facts and as of now Joe Paterno did more than anyone associated with Penn State University did.
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    Really?  I'm not sure what less he could've done.

    How about this, did he ever, even once, ever confront Sandusky about what he was told to get his side of the story.  Isn't that something more that he "could have done"?


    I don't know. Do you? Maybe he did. I would assume his wife didn't know. Maybe he fooled his friend Joe Pa. I go by facts and as of now Joe Paterno did more than anyone associated with Penn State University did.
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