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    Is there any doubt why JFK was killed?

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    Posted: Jul. 3, 2008 - 12:43 AM ET #176

    Quote Originally Posted by TheGreatToby:

    its anyones  guess, when people try to explain what really happened stuff starts to get wacky, but a plane didn't hit the pentagon.
     also the plane parts found in the pentagon weren't even from a Boeing the big box under the blue tarp lol the blue tarp and every on site reporter said it didn't look like a plan crash, lets keep believing the magical storys against the laws of gravity and physics and fire science that all happened on one day in the history of the world.


    Anyone's guess huh? Like maybe they're in Area 51 now, right? I'd like to hear a plausible explanation as to where the 100s of people vanished to, and cut the ra-ra bullshit. You talk like you think you know what happened, but you really have no fucking clue.


    magical storys against the laws of gravity and physics and fire science that all happened on one day in the history of the world.

    You and cd are those douchebags who wouldn't believe it even if you saw it with your own eyes. It wouldn't matter one bit as to what facts were presented or what the eyewitnesses said. In other words, a lost cause.


    but some people choose to not use theirs and instead believe everything they are told.

    So tell me where the fucking people went then, conspiracy theorist.
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    Quote Originally Posted by TheGreatToby:

    its anyones  guess, when people try to explain what really happened stuff starts to get wacky, but a plane didn't hit the pentagon.
     also the plane parts found in the pentagon weren't even from a Boeing the big box under the blue tarp lol the blue tarp and every on site reporter said it didn't look like a plan crash, lets keep believing the magical storys against the laws of gravity and physics and fire science that all happened on one day in the history of the world.


    Anyone's guess huh? Like maybe they're in Area 51 now, right? I'd like to hear a plausible explanation as to where the 100s of people vanished to, and cut the ra-ra bullshit. You talk like you think you know what happened, but you really have no fucking clue.


    magical storys against the laws of gravity and physics and fire science that all happened on one day in the history of the world.

    You and cd are those douchebags who wouldn't believe it even if you saw it with your own eyes. It wouldn't matter one bit as to what facts were presented or what the eyewitnesses said. In other words, a lost cause.


    but some people choose to not use theirs and instead believe everything they are told.

    So tell me where the fucking people went then, conspiracy theorist.
     
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    Posted: Jul. 3, 2008 - 12:57 AM ET #177

    no a55whole there all died, you dont know what happened as well, i think thats the whole point, people should know, its a big fucking plane with wings( you know the things on the side), some how the big ass plan fit into a small hole, but we cant see it, hmm ok. you tell me how it fit into the hole and i will tell you were the passengers are ok?
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    no a55whole there all died, you dont know what happened as well, i think thats the whole point, people should know, its a big fucking plane with wings( you know the things on the side), some how the big ass plan fit into a small hole, but we cant see it, hmm ok. you tell me how it fit into the hole and i will tell you were the passengers are ok?
     
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    Posted: Jul. 3, 2008 - 1:29 AM ET #178

    Quote Originally Posted by cdl6449:



    Anyone's guess huh? Like maybe they're in Area 51 now, right? I'd like to hear a plausible explanation as to where the 100s of people vanished to, and cut the ra-ra bullshit. You talk like you think you know what happened, but you really have no fucking clue.


    magical storys against the laws of gravity and physics and fire science that all happened on one day in the history of the world.

    You and cd are those douchebags who wouldn't believe it even if you saw it with your own eyes. It wouldn't matter one bit as to what facts were presented or what the eyewitnesses said. In other words, a lost cause.


    but some people choose to not use theirs and instead believe everything they are told.

    So tell me where the fucking people went then, conspiracy theorist.

     

    The people are gone, thats where they are.  The people running this world wouldnt have any second thoughts about getting rid of people in order to further their own cause.  Since humans have been on this planet, there have been people who want to rule the world and would do whatever it takes to make those dreams come true.  You are under this belief that since we live in this country, stuff like this could never take place. Thats so far from the truth.  Humans are humans no matter what part of the world you live in.

    Do i know for a fact what happened?  Of course not and if i did i would probably be dead also.  I just know that am gonna use my own common sense to figure out things in front of me and not believe what others want me to believe.

    Like i have been saying in this whole thread, show me 1 clear video of a plane even heading towards the pentagon and i will say i was wrong and that will be the end of it.

    Do you really believe that a jumbo jet would be able to even make it close to the pentagon any day but especially on 9/11 without being blown out of the sky?  Come on man use your own mind here and a little common sense.  Your gonna really believe that our top govt buildings have no defense systems in place.  Even you cant really be this gullible, can you?  Airspace around these buildings is so secure nothing could have gotton thru.

    Bottomline is your not gonna change my mind and am not gonna change your mind

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    Quote Originally Posted by cdl6449:



    Anyone's guess huh? Like maybe they're in Area 51 now, right? I'd like to hear a plausible explanation as to where the 100s of people vanished to, and cut the ra-ra bullshit. You talk like you think you know what happened, but you really have no fucking clue.


    magical storys against the laws of gravity and physics and fire science that all happened on one day in the history of the world.

    You and cd are those douchebags who wouldn't believe it even if you saw it with your own eyes. It wouldn't matter one bit as to what facts were presented or what the eyewitnesses said. In other words, a lost cause.


    but some people choose to not use theirs and instead believe everything they are told.

    So tell me where the fucking people went then, conspiracy theorist.

     

    The people are gone, thats where they are.  The people running this world wouldnt have any second thoughts about getting rid of people in order to further their own cause.  Since humans have been on this planet, there have been people who want to rule the world and would do whatever it takes to make those dreams come true.  You are under this belief that since we live in this country, stuff like this could never take place. Thats so far from the truth.  Humans are humans no matter what part of the world you live in.

    Do i know for a fact what happened?  Of course not and if i did i would probably be dead also.  I just know that am gonna use my own common sense to figure out things in front of me and not believe what others want me to believe.

    Like i have been saying in this whole thread, show me 1 clear video of a plane even heading towards the pentagon and i will say i was wrong and that will be the end of it.

    Do you really believe that a jumbo jet would be able to even make it close to the pentagon any day but especially on 9/11 without being blown out of the sky?  Come on man use your own mind here and a little common sense.  Your gonna really believe that our top govt buildings have no defense systems in place.  Even you cant really be this gullible, can you?  Airspace around these buildings is so secure nothing could have gotton thru.

    Bottomline is your not gonna change my mind and am not gonna change your mind

     
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    Posted: Jul. 3, 2008 - 6:04 AM ET #179

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    Posted: Jul. 3, 2008 - 8:40 AM ET #180

    The people are gone, thats where they are

    Ok, so everyone checked onto the flight. That's an undisputable fact, correct? Backed up by the flight log or roster. Backed up by phone calls, itineraries, reservations, etc. So basically what you're saying is that some time during the flight, the plane magically disappeared (to the bermuda triangle maybe?) , or perhaps into a pre-set wormhole by the US gov't so they just "vanish" out of thin air. Maybe a real-world LOST episode. It is then replaced by a missle or a small plane, which dupes the FAA into thinking contact was re-established, and which hundreds of eyewitnesses (who must all be in on it of course) mistake for a 757. Total, utter lunacy.

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    A brief (which is more than it deserves) look at the "A missile hit the Pentagon" theory

    1) No missile was seen or heard by anyone. All eyewitnesses report a passenger jet crash.
    2) No missile debris was found.
    3) Missiles do not carry thousands of gallons of jet fuel, which caused massive fires.
    4) Missiles do not carry the remains and personal belongings of flight 77 passengers and crew.
    5) Missiles do not carry tons of 757 debris.
    6) In the diagram below, the yellow dots indicate the broken light poles. The red line indicates the path a missile would have to take in order to knock them over, or the missile would have to have a wingspan of over 100 feet. The Tomahawk Cruise missile that Loose Change suggests hit the Pentagon has a wingspan of 8 feet 9 inches (2.67 m).



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    coldsnap, are these low enough for you?

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    The people are gone, thats where they are

    Ok, so everyone checked onto the flight. That's an undisputable fact, correct? Backed up by the flight log or roster. Backed up by phone calls, itineraries, reservations, etc. So basically what you're saying is that some time during the flight, the plane magically disappeared (to the bermuda triangle maybe?) , or perhaps into a pre-set wormhole by the US gov't so they just "vanish" out of thin air. Maybe a real-world LOST episode. It is then replaced by a missle or a small plane, which dupes the FAA into thinking contact was re-established, and which hundreds of eyewitnesses (who must all be in on it of course) mistake for a 757. Total, utter lunacy.

    Page 1

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    A brief (which is more than it deserves) look at the "A missile hit the Pentagon" theory

    1) No missile was seen or heard by anyone. All eyewitnesses report a passenger jet crash.
    2) No missile debris was found.
    3) Missiles do not carry thousands of gallons of jet fuel, which caused massive fires.
    4) Missiles do not carry the remains and personal belongings of flight 77 passengers and crew.
    5) Missiles do not carry tons of 757 debris.
    6) In the diagram below, the yellow dots indicate the broken light poles. The red line indicates the path a missile would have to take in order to knock them over, or the missile would have to have a wingspan of over 100 feet. The Tomahawk Cruise missile that Loose Change suggests hit the Pentagon has a wingspan of 8 feet 9 inches (2.67 m).



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    coldsnap, are these low enough for you?

     
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    Posted: Jul. 3, 2008 - 8:44 AM ET #181

    Quote Originally Posted by coldsnap55:

    According to this report the pentagon was not hit by a plane or a missle.....Must have been a GLIDER because I dont see any mention of any engines.

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    Quote Originally Posted by coldsnap55:

    According to this report the pentagon was not hit by a plane or a missle.....Must have been a GLIDER because I dont see any mention of any engines.

    um... page 13...

     
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    coldsnap, are these low enough for you?
     
    Very cool video .....but done by pro. pilots ...not a guy who could barely drive a 2 seater.....and there is a very long strech of flat land there.
     
    The long list of eyewitnesses looks too impressive to think it was a bunch of names drawn out of a phonebook .
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    JUST TELL ME WHY THERE IS NO VIDEO SHOWING A PLANE HITTING THE PENTAGON.
     
     
     
     
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    coldsnap, are these low enough for you?
     
    Very cool video .....but done by pro. pilots ...not a guy who could barely drive a 2 seater.....and there is a very long strech of flat land there.
     
    The long list of eyewitnesses looks too impressive to think it was a bunch of names drawn out of a phonebook .
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    JUST TELL ME WHY THERE IS NO VIDEO SHOWING A PLANE HITTING THE PENTAGON.
     
     
     
     
     
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    cdl, you keep skating on my questions i asked up above.  I dont need to see links telling me what the govt has said.  I want to hear your own common sense answers. 
    So show me 1 clear video of a plane heading toward the pentagon and this subject is closed.  Our govt if they wanted to could put a dead stop to all the people out there who think a missile hit the pentagon, by showing one clip of a actual plane, instead of some 50 year old grainy video that you cant make out what it is. So please dont say its for security reasons why they dont release a video, because thats total bullshit.
     
    as far as the people went, use your friggin imagination. I understand its hard to think your own country could do such a thing, but they could and would do it for their own agenda.  I guess you havent studied much history about humans.
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    cdl, you keep skating on my questions i asked up above.  I dont need to see links telling me what the govt has said.  I want to hear your own common sense answers. 
    So show me 1 clear video of a plane heading toward the pentagon and this subject is closed.  Our govt if they wanted to could put a dead stop to all the people out there who think a missile hit the pentagon, by showing one clip of a actual plane, instead of some 50 year old grainy video that you cant make out what it is. So please dont say its for security reasons why they dont release a video, because thats total bullshit.
     
    as far as the people went, use your friggin imagination. I understand its hard to think your own country could do such a thing, but they could and would do it for their own agenda.  I guess you havent studied much history about humans.
     
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    Posted: Jul. 3, 2008 - 2:02 PM ET #184

    What about that plane they were gonna blow up in the 60 or 70's with US citizens on it...not sure what it was called...ill look it up and get back to ya...Im sure someone knows what im talking about.
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    What about that plane they were gonna blow up in the 60 or 70's with US citizens on it...not sure what it was called...ill look it up and get back to ya...Im sure someone knows what im talking about.
     
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    Posted: Jul. 3, 2008 - 2:23 PM ET #185

    Well, I wish there was a clear video available to the public. I'm not going to pretend to know why they haven't released a video, for better or for worse. Bottom line, there are unanswered question from both sides of the fence, and someone knows. Maybe one day we'll all know for sure. But I cannot fathom a conspiracy involving eyewitness accounts. Sure, you could get to some, but it's a heavily populated city, with random people driving, walking, looking out windows, etc. There is NO WAY to know how many actually witnessed what happened, much less make them all corroborate one story.


    I understand its hard to think your own country could do such a thing, but they could and would do it for their own agenda.  I guess you havent studied much history about humans.

    I've yet to hear a good reason as to WHY this would happen. How would killing 1000s of people and hiding a 757 improve America's position in ANY way?

    And no, I'm no history expert, but I don't recall genocide of 1000s being part of ours.
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    Well, I wish there was a clear video available to the public. I'm not going to pretend to know why they haven't released a video, for better or for worse. Bottom line, there are unanswered question from both sides of the fence, and someone knows. Maybe one day we'll all know for sure. But I cannot fathom a conspiracy involving eyewitness accounts. Sure, you could get to some, but it's a heavily populated city, with random people driving, walking, looking out windows, etc. There is NO WAY to know how many actually witnessed what happened, much less make them all corroborate one story.


    I understand its hard to think your own country could do such a thing, but they could and would do it for their own agenda.  I guess you havent studied much history about humans.

    I've yet to hear a good reason as to WHY this would happen. How would killing 1000s of people and hiding a 757 improve America's position in ANY way?

    And no, I'm no history expert, but I don't recall genocide of 1000s being part of ours.
     
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    Posted: Jul. 3, 2008 - 2:30 PM ET #186

    Quote Originally Posted by cdl6449:

    Well, I wish there was a clear video available to the public. I'm not going to pretend to know why they haven't released a video, for better or for worse. Bottom line, there are unanswered question from both sides of the fence, and someone knows. Maybe one day we'll all know for sure. But I cannot fathom a conspiracy involving eyewitness accounts. Sure, you could get to some, but it's a heavily populated city, with random people driving, walking, looking out windows, etc. There is NO WAY to know how many actually witnessed what happened, much less make them all corroborate one story.


    I understand its hard to think your own country could do such a thing, but they could and would do it for their own agenda.  I guess you havent studied much history about humans.

    I've yet to hear a good reason as to WHY this would happen. How would killing 1000s of people and hiding a 757 improve America's position in ANY way?

    And no, I'm no history expert, but I don't recall genocide of 1000s being part of ours.

     

    CDL, why would they do such a thing?  It was the reason for going to war.  Am sure you know war is big buisness, worth trillions of dollars to defense companies along with tons of other reasons.  Dont think it wasnt about getting a foothold on Iraqs oil either, because that played a part no matter how much people dont like to believe that stuff.  So yes for the people running this world, they would do whatever it takes for their own agenda.

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    Well, I wish there was a clear video available to the public. I'm not going to pretend to know why they haven't released a video, for better or for worse. Bottom line, there are unanswered question from both sides of the fence, and someone knows. Maybe one day we'll all know for sure. But I cannot fathom a conspiracy involving eyewitness accounts. Sure, you could get to some, but it's a heavily populated city, with random people driving, walking, looking out windows, etc. There is NO WAY to know how many actually witnessed what happened, much less make them all corroborate one story.


    I understand its hard to think your own country could do such a thing, but they could and would do it for their own agenda.  I guess you havent studied much history about humans.

    I've yet to hear a good reason as to WHY this would happen. How would killing 1000s of people and hiding a 757 improve America's position in ANY way?

    And no, I'm no history expert, but I don't recall genocide of 1000s being part of ours.

     

    CDL, why would they do such a thing?  It was the reason for going to war.  Am sure you know war is big buisness, worth trillions of dollars to defense companies along with tons of other reasons.  Dont think it wasnt about getting a foothold on Iraqs oil either, because that played a part no matter how much people dont like to believe that stuff.  So yes for the people running this world, they would do whatever it takes for their own agenda.

     
     
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    Posted: Jul. 3, 2008 - 2:40 PM ET #187

    CDL, your right we may never know what really happened.  Maybe someday, somebody on their death bed will spill their guts.

    Also whos to say all the so called eye witnesses werent just people who are involved?

    Everybody thinks that a conpsiracy has to leak out if lots of people are involved, thats just not true.

    Take area 51just for example, after all these years of this place being there, no real info about what goes on in that place has ever been brought out.  Thats because the people who work their are probably so dedicated to whatever is going on in there and part of it all, they just wont say a thing.  There really are people like this. 

    Theres so much secret stuff taking place everyday around the world, that people will never see or even hear about.

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    CDL, your right we may never know what really happened.  Maybe someday, somebody on their death bed will spill their guts.

    Also whos to say all the so called eye witnesses werent just people who are involved?

    Everybody thinks that a conpsiracy has to leak out if lots of people are involved, thats just not true.

    Take area 51just for example, after all these years of this place being there, no real info about what goes on in that place has ever been brought out.  Thats because the people who work their are probably so dedicated to whatever is going on in there and part of it all, they just wont say a thing.  There really are people like this. 

    Theres so much secret stuff taking place everyday around the world, that people will never see or even hear about.

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