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For whatever reason, I became extremely angry after hearing this. Of course, there is more to it than just this speech, but it basically ties everything together. I interpreted this as, " I am calling "you" out."Now zoom ahead to 2008. This machine is in full motion now. Soon, if they don't already, these fuckers will have all of us by the balls. Compare this type of " talk " with the shameful leaders we have to listen to in the present. The Clemens' Hearings, Arlen Specter with his Spy Gate Crusade, anything that comes out of G.W. Bush's mouth, etc..These fucking ticks and leeches ( MJK) are governing our lives. Apply some critical thinking to that scenario. I never really spent much time thinking about any of this shit until this past year.  End of rant. That's all, carry on.... 
 
 
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Theres no doubt the real people who run things in this world took out JFK.  Watch some of the other videos, like the one where the secret service agent is being told to get away from the car.  Why the hell secret service agents were being told to get away from the car makes no sense at all.
Everything that is happening today is exactly what JFK said would happen in that speech.
 
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there was a lot of crap being said about no more CIA and stuff like that , theres books(literally) about how the guy blamed for the shooting didn't do it. like receipts found on him that he was at a local diner when the shooting took place. CIA is way out of hand

there actually teaching now in college that the election that Kennedy won was partially do to rigged elections that where rigged by the mob all of the talk about crime and getting reed of it didn't make the mob happy and bobby's attempt to continue the work and ideas of his brother is what got him killed Marylin M. was also a casualty in this giant catastrophe. 

who killed JFK
the fake moon landing
9/11
 
anyone ever wants creditable award winning documentary's with indisputable evidence,  just ask and i will provide links
 
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Kennedy was assassinated by a lone gunman, intoxicated by his desperation for notoriety, such as, the time he defected to the Soviet Union. Even the Kremlin thought Oswald was nutty and was glad to see him eventually return to the US.

If the CIA or other secret society wanted to kill JFK and used Oswald as its proxy, they would have never allowed the Dallas police to apprehend him. They would've taken him out themselves.

The moon landing was real.

9/11 was an operation planned and performed by an extremist Islamic sect.

Government "conspiracies" eventually come out into the open to the point where  insiders not deny them. You think the CIA wanted everyone to know about Bay of Pigs and the overthrow of Mohammed Mossadeq in Iran?
Occam's razor, people
 
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i want to think what u do
why was the flag blowing in the wind when there was no wind in space?

buildings don't fall at free fall speeds due to fires(i'm a fire fighter)

why did tower7 fall

why did tower7 fall at free fall speeds

why wasn't there skid marks leading into the pentagon

why was the hole in the pentagon only 18ft across before it collapsed?

why has no one ever seen the footage of the plane hitting the pentagon

why was there no evidence of a plane hitting the pentagon

they said that the engines "vaporised" well 6 ton rolls Royce engines don't vaporise 

why was it when Bush and Chaney were called to testify Separately under oath they testified together and not under oath

why has the public still not seen the footage of whatever hit the pentagon


 
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why did they find 7 of the 16 hijackers alive? ive got like 50Q's

 
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and for 9/11 im not saying we had to due it but we covered up something
 
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5am i cant spell

no disrespect to people with different ideas just help me out here
 
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One of the most telling aspects of the Kennedy killing was that the secret service were told to stand down. This makes no sense at all. This is the only time in history they ever did this. Why?
 
Check out this video:
 
 
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The flag has a stiff wire in it that runs along the top so the flag can be fully seen.
 
All the other crap...................
 
JFK-I've often wondered about that, and read books ever since Oliver Stone's JFK came out............it's pretty wierd
 
9/11? Stay tuned..........
 
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Interesting. I like how he says the media's job is not to "emphasize the trivial" which is exactly what they do now. So and so's back in rehab, this millionaire is dating this other millionaire. Nobody really knows what's going on in Iraq and Afghanistan. 50,000 people dead in China but it gets about a minute of news coverage. I'm not really sure if 911 is or isn't what most people think it was but Toby is right in that there are alot of questions and odd things that happened. Something like 600 tuns of gold was moved out of the bassment of the towers about a week before they fell, like someone knew something was about to happen. I still remember the day it happened there were reports that one of the highjacker's passport was found on the ground outside the building but it was never followed up on. Also as was mensioned above, whats up with tower seven. A fourty-seven story building falls down in new york city and no one even knows. I'm not about to say it was a plot carried out by the US government but it is important to keep an open mind to these sorts of things because they're rarely what they seem to be on the surface.
 
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Quote Originally Posted by lemonsky:

Kennedy was assassinated by a lone gunman, intoxicated by his desperation for notoriety, such as, the time he defected to the Soviet Union. Even the Kremlin thought Oswald was nutty and was glad to see him eventually return to the US.

If the CIA or other secret society wanted to kill JFK and used Oswald as its proxy, they would have never allowed the Dallas police to apprehend him. They would've taken him out themselves.

The moon landing was real.

9/11 was an operation planned and performed by an extremist Islamic sect.

Government "conspiracies" eventually come out into the open to the point where  insiders not deny them. You think the CIA wanted everyone to know about Bay of Pigs and the overthrow of Mohammed Mossadeq in Iran?

Occam's razor, people

Read "Case Closed" by Posner.  The most complete forensic examination of the JFK assasination.  Leaves NOTHING unexplained. 

 
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And I want to add one more thing: if the government was smart and tactful enough to hatch 9/11 and the "fake" moon landing, then it would've planted those WMDs somewhere in Iraq to justify the invasion.

Alas, no WMDs have been located.

So why was Iraq truly invaded? For years leading up to the war, neocons had a hard on for invading Iraq under the pretext that securing the oil fields and installing in America-friendly regime is in the national security interest of the U.S. 9/11 just gave them the perfect excuse.

But again, American arrogance and misunderstanding of Islam, tribes, and general intricacies of the region has blown up in our government's face.
 
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When Kennedys body left Dallas green bodybag,white coffin.
When Kennedys body was unloaded at Maryland airport, Black bodybag,black coffin.
Where is Kennedys brain?CIA,FBI, Smithsonian? Noone knows where it is or what was done with it.
Did you hear about this thing at Roswell NM?
 
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covers a lot, if you have time watch the whole thing, if not see the 6th video
 
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THE 9/11 PART STARTS AT 40:45......
 
my friend thats fighting over seas sent this to me
 
as a fire fighter, it makes me sad
 
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the 9/11 part is a lot more important than the moon videos i posted a min. ago 
 
my mom wanted to see the 9/11 video and i said no, i wouldn't send her the address. My dads also i fire fighter(retired) and my parents after 9/11 went to new york and idk, its one of those vidoes that open your eyes to the point that i wish that i had never seen it and that i could go back in live in the fantasy world that i had in the past, so if you want to think the world is Candy Land dont see it, but if you want to open your eyes or have a intelectual coversation about this, then its important that you see it
 
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This is interesting stuff. While we're on the subject check this out.

Loose Change

Not the clearest video and it's a bit wacky but sort of an interesting watch.
 
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loose change is a very well made film for what it is, i would give anything for someone to be like"no toby the video is wrong on all 500 facts and heres why" anything.....
 
people dont even have the balls for the most part to talk about this, theres so much out there
the ripple effect
in plan sight
ect....
 
someone, anyone this isnt rightwing leftwing its an american thing, and it sickens me
 
i've never meet someone that has seen all of these documentrys and then didnt feel that the government was somehow behind it, coverd up...whatever
 
being a patroit isn't about protecting your governemnt its about protecting the people
 
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watch the video "lose change" and then tell me.
im not calling you out or trying to be disrespectful, but see what i've seen and then lets talk about 9/11
 
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Joe DiMaggio had Kennedy killed

 
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Quote Originally Posted by TheGreatToby:

the 9/11 part is a lot more important than the moon videos i posted a min. ago 
 
my mom wanted to see the 9/11 video and i said no, i wouldn't send her the address. My dads also i fire fighter(retired) and my parents after 9/11 went to new york and idk, its one of those vidoes that open your eyes to the point that i wish that i had never seen it and that i could go back in live in the fantasy world that i had in the past, so if you want to think the world is Candy Land dont see it, but if you want to open your eyes or have a intelectual coversation about this, then its important that you see it

Okay, I'll have an intelectual conversation about this.

The notion that hundreds of agents can work in unison to pull off 9/11 (hijack planes, implode the towers via a controlled demolition, have agents load the towers with TNT while no one's looking) is indicative of the paranoia that can cloud one's mind.

Yes, it generates a load of self-satisfaction to assume that you and a select group of theorists are privy to the malevolent motives of the government. You fancy the day that all "truth" will come out and you'll all be vindicated and lauded for being modern day Upton Sinclairs.

In addition, to leave the reasons why tragedy occurs open is too mentally taxing for some people. That there can be nuance is unbearable. Everything must be explained, ergo, that's why so many harebrained theories are posited everywhere.

And did I ever refer to our country as "Candy Land"? No, I reasoned why the Iraq "war" was started. There's no such thing as a benevolent superpower, but there must be empiricism and common sense when it comes to explaining why things happen.

Again, I'll go back to my WMD argument. If the govt is so omniscient, so cunning, why didn't it plant those WMDs in Iraq? If so, the invasion would have been justified and the Republican Party wouldn't be roiled right now. The fact is there are too many Keystone Kops in government for a scheme like that to happen. Just like hundreds of them couldn't work behind the scenes to assassinate JFK, land on the moon, or implode the Twin Towers without the truth coming out.

 
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L. Fletcher Prouty is the man who inspired the film 'JFK'. Although deceased, he has a website https://www.prouty.org/. Check it out, (listen to some of the audio files in particular) lot's of great info from a first hand source; he was the AF's liaison officer with the CIA for cladenstine operations during IKE and JFK.
 
Here's an excerpt from his book, JFK – The CIA, Vietnam, and the Plot to Assassinate John F. Kennedy by L. Fletcher Prouty
 
Birch Lane Press, 1992:
 
 
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One more good resource:
 
 
 
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Quote Originally Posted by lemonsky:

Okay, I'll have an intelectual conversation about this.

The notion that hundreds of agents can work in unison to pull off 9/11 (hijack planes, implode the towers via a controlled demolition, have agents load the towers with TNT while no one's looking) is indicative of the paranoia that can cloud one's mind.

Yes, it generates a load of self-satisfaction to assume that you and a select group of theorists are privy to the malevolent motives of the government. You fancy the day that all "truth" will come out and you'll all be vindicated and lauded for being modern day Upton Sinclairs.

In addition, to leave the reasons why tragedy occurs open is too mentally taxing for some people. That there can be nuance is unbearable. Everything must be explained, ergo, that's why so many harebrained theories are posited everywhere.

And did I ever refer to our country as "Candy Land"? No, I reasoned why the Iraq "war" was started. There's no such thing as a benevolent superpower, but there must be empiricism and common sense when it comes to explaining why things happen.

Again, I'll go back to my WMD argument. If the govt is so omniscient, so cunning, why didn't it plant those WMDs in Iraq? If so, the invasion would have been justified and the Republican Party wouldn't be roiled right now. The fact is there are too many Keystone Kops in government for a scheme like that to happen. Just like hundreds of them couldn't work behind the scenes to assassinate JFK, land on the moon, or implode the Twin Towers without the truth coming out.

 

Lemon, thats your opinion.  But i suggest you do some reading on how fires burn and building structures before making a final conclusion.  There was a building in another state, that had 7 floors burn for 2 days and it never collapsed.

also look at the plane that supposdely hit the penatgon.  Here you have one of the most secure buildings in the country and our govt has yet to produce one clear video of a plane actually hitting the building.  We have satellites that can read the date on a dime from up in space, yet we dont have one clear video of a plane hitting the penatgon, yeah okay.  Theres so many unanswered questions, nobody will ever know.  What you do need to know thou, there is a group of people in this world working on a one world order, that my friend is real and those people will do anything to control the world and all its money.  Everybody thinks guys like bill gates and warren buffet are the richest people in the world, lmfaooooo.  There are people we will never know. who make those guys wealth look like chump change.

As far as wmd, they screwed up on that one.  They should have planted some, but i think they just were so cocky they didnt bother to think about that.

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