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    Posted: Apr. 26, 2017 - 1:17 PM ET #1

    What's with all the job cuts today? From the narratives they push to the demise of Monday night football, What has happened to them? I remember when Monday night football was the big game of the week, I don't think i've bothered to watch more than 4/5 MNF games a season the past 4/5 years.
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    What's with all the job cuts today? From the narratives they push to the demise of Monday night football, What has happened to them? I remember when Monday night football was the big game of the week, I don't think i've bothered to watch more than 4/5 MNF games a season the past 4/5 years.
     
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    Posted: Apr. 26, 2017 - 1:23 PM ET #2

    They're a laggard on Disney's Balance Sheet.  They have been losing money for some time now.

    Outside of live games/matches, I can't stand their networks.  Thank God for the NHL and NFL Networks where actually players and former ones provide the analysis; not the likes of Stephen A Smith, Max Kellermen, Michael and Jamelle.  

    It's a phucking joke of a sports network.  Too bad the aforementioned didn't get cut then maybe it become something credible.

    Just my 2 cents
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    They're a laggard on Disney's Balance Sheet.  They have been losing money for some time now.

    Outside of live games/matches, I can't stand their networks.  Thank God for the NHL and NFL Networks where actually players and former ones provide the analysis; not the likes of Stephen A Smith, Max Kellermen, Michael and Jamelle.  

    It's a phucking joke of a sports network.  Too bad the aforementioned didn't get cut then maybe it become something credible.

    Just my 2 cents
     
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    Posted: Apr. 26, 2017 - 1:58 PM ET #3

    They over paid for the TV rights to NBA so badly they have to cut money some where and this time it is on air talent.
    We should stop eating bananas.
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    They over paid for the TV rights to NBA so badly they have to cut money some where and this time it is on air talent.
     
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    Posted: Apr. 26, 2017 - 2:16 PM ET #4


    You spend a good part of your life holding a microphone.

    Then one day you realize, all the time, it's been the other way around.
    ~~~~~ZOSO~~~~~
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    You spend a good part of your life holding a microphone.

    Then one day you realize, all the time, it's been the other way around.
     
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    Posted: Apr. 26, 2017 - 2:22 PM ET #5

    Here is a running list of the layoffs today.

    https://deadspin.com/a-running-list-of-espn-layoffs-1794664091
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    Here is a running list of the layoffs today.

    https://deadspin.com/a-running-list-of-espn-layoffs-1794664091
     
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    Posted: Apr. 26, 2017 - 3:49 PM ET #6

    Maybe they need more Women anchors and announcers ..


    I watch SNB on mute. 
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    Maybe they need more Women anchors and announcers ..


    I watch SNB on mute. 
     
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    Posted: Apr. 26, 2017 - 3:53 PM ET #7

    i've said this before but of the ridiculous number of channels i have on my tv, espn has to be in the bottom 10.  i would never, ever watch that channel if a game isn't on and even then i mute it about half of the time. 
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    i've said this before but of the ridiculous number of channels i have on my tv, espn has to be in the bottom 10.  i would never, ever watch that channel if a game isn't on and even then i mute it about half of the time. 
     
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    Posted: Apr. 26, 2017 - 4:56 PM ET #8

    16. Derek Tyson? — SEC recruiting analyst

     Only "recruiting analyst" to lose his job......at least so far. Why would espn employ a recruiting analyst?
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    16. Derek Tyson? — SEC recruiting analyst

     Only "recruiting analyst" to lose his job......at least so far. Why would espn employ a recruiting analyst?
     
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    Quote Originally Posted by THEMUGG:

    16. Derek Tyson? — SEC recruiting analyst

     Only "recruiting analyst" to lose his job......at least so far. Why would espn employ a recruiting analyst?

    As I was flipping channels the other day, I come across the big annual draft hype on ESPN.  You know the one.  Where they micro-analyze the color of the players sh*t, and say that one guy is going to do better than another because he can bench 5 lbs more.  
    It is literally a joke that they spend months on scouting, but basically zero time on game and time management - the stuff that really wins games - but I digress......

    ESPN has 2 - yes 2 - draft experts.  This douche Mel Kyper and this other younger douche Todd McShay.

    100-1 says one or both get the boot right after the draft.
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    Quote Originally Posted by THEMUGG:

    16. Derek Tyson? — SEC recruiting analyst

     Only "recruiting analyst" to lose his job......at least so far. Why would espn employ a recruiting analyst?

    As I was flipping channels the other day, I come across the big annual draft hype on ESPN.  You know the one.  Where they micro-analyze the color of the players sh*t, and say that one guy is going to do better than another because he can bench 5 lbs more.  
    It is literally a joke that they spend months on scouting, but basically zero time on game and time management - the stuff that really wins games - but I digress......

    ESPN has 2 - yes 2 - draft experts.  This douche Mel Kyper and this other younger douche Todd McShay.

    100-1 says one or both get the boot right after the draft.
     
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    Posted: Apr. 26, 2017 - 5:17 PM ET #10

    Quote Originally Posted by vanzack:


    As I was flipping channels the other day, I come across the big annual draft hype on ESPN.  You know the one.  Where they micro-analyze the color of the players sh*t, and say that one guy is going to do better than another because he can bench 5 lbs more.  
    It is literally a joke that they spend months on scouting, but basically zero time on game and time management - the stuff that really wins games - but I digress......

    ESPN has 2 - yes 2 - draft experts.  This douche Mel Kyper and this other younger douche Todd McShay.

    100-1 says one or both get the boot right after the draft.

    I heard a crazy stat the other day....

    Only 17% of 1st round players in the last 10 years are with the drafting team after 4 years.

    Why would anyone pick a 1st rounder instead of trading it?
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    Quote Originally Posted by vanzack:


    As I was flipping channels the other day, I come across the big annual draft hype on ESPN.  You know the one.  Where they micro-analyze the color of the players sh*t, and say that one guy is going to do better than another because he can bench 5 lbs more.  
    It is literally a joke that they spend months on scouting, but basically zero time on game and time management - the stuff that really wins games - but I digress......

    ESPN has 2 - yes 2 - draft experts.  This douche Mel Kyper and this other younger douche Todd McShay.

    100-1 says one or both get the boot right after the draft.

    I heard a crazy stat the other day....

    Only 17% of 1st round players in the last 10 years are with the drafting team after 4 years.

    Why would anyone pick a 1st rounder instead of trading it?
     
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    Posted: Apr. 26, 2017 - 5:36 PM ET #11

    Was listening to NFL network guy yesterday on DP show, used to be a scout and he was asked are any of these QB 1st round talent?  He says don't think so.  Next question how many do you think will go?  Him probably 3-4, with browns and jets needing QB this is gonna end bad for 2 QBs.
    We should stop eating bananas.
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    Was listening to NFL network guy yesterday on DP show, used to be a scout and he was asked are any of these QB 1st round talent?  He says don't think so.  Next question how many do you think will go?  Him probably 3-4, with browns and jets needing QB this is gonna end bad for 2 QBs.
     
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    Posted: Apr. 26, 2017 - 6:27 PM ET #12

    I'll miss Jade McCarthy's tasty tits.....   I liked Len Elmore and Jayson Stark

    But I won't miss Danny Kanell, Dilfer....


    Can't believe Ed Werder is gone...  But I guess without Tony Romo in Dallas anymore he doesn't have to sift through the dumpster or toilets to see what Romo had for dinner last night
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    I'll miss Jade McCarthy's tasty tits.....   I liked Len Elmore and Jayson Stark

    But I won't miss Danny Kanell, Dilfer....


    Can't believe Ed Werder is gone...  But I guess without Tony Romo in Dallas anymore he doesn't have to sift through the dumpster or toilets to see what Romo had for dinner last night
     
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    Posted: Apr. 26, 2017 - 6:27 PM ET #13

    Quote Originally Posted by vanzack:


    As I was flipping channels the other day, I come across the big annual draft hype on ESPN.  You know the one.  Where they micro-analyze the color of the players sh*t, and say that one guy is going to do better than another because he can bench 5 lbs more.  
    It is literally a joke that they spend months on scouting, but basically zero time on game and time management - the stuff that really wins games - but I digress......

    ESPN has 2 - yes 2 - draft experts.  This douche Mel Kyper and this other younger douche Todd McShay.

    100-1 says one or both get the boot right after the draft.

    Mel Kyper is horrible. He gets maybe 10% of his picks right. Yet you still have to listen to him nauseatingly make each pick before each official pick comes in. Now I just wait for the whole draft to be over, and then just look at the results. Much less painful to do that than actually watch the draft.
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    Quote Originally Posted by vanzack:


    As I was flipping channels the other day, I come across the big annual draft hype on ESPN.  You know the one.  Where they micro-analyze the color of the players sh*t, and say that one guy is going to do better than another because he can bench 5 lbs more.  
    It is literally a joke that they spend months on scouting, but basically zero time on game and time management - the stuff that really wins games - but I digress......

    ESPN has 2 - yes 2 - draft experts.  This douche Mel Kyper and this other younger douche Todd McShay.

    100-1 says one or both get the boot right after the draft.

    Mel Kyper is horrible. He gets maybe 10% of his picks right. Yet you still have to listen to him nauseatingly make each pick before each official pick comes in. Now I just wait for the whole draft to be over, and then just look at the results. Much less painful to do that than actually watch the draft.
     
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    Posted: Apr. 26, 2017 - 8:53 PM ET #14

    Looks like ESPN is officially giving the boot to hockey coverage.
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    Looks like ESPN is officially giving the boot to hockey coverage.
     
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    Posted: Apr. 26, 2017 - 9:33 PM ET #15

    I Hope so ... 

    I have the sound off when watching a game 97% of the time 

    Full of Nagging , Biotching and moaning talking heads ,  I would rather listen to My Wife's moron friends gossip about other idiot women and how frustrated they are with online shopping 



    I HATE THE PANDERING TO US BLACKS 
    I want to vomit at all the broken slang ..
    Even worse is when these idiots change their voice and speech when talking to someone of color..
    SO IGNORANT AND FAKE...

     
    THE DRAFT NERDS ARE a DISGRACE
    Might as well give Poker bad beat guy and Horse track almost hit the Superfecta guy exclusive air time on a daily basis 



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    I Hope so ... 

    I have the sound off when watching a game 97% of the time 

    Full of Nagging , Biotching and moaning talking heads ,  I would rather listen to My Wife's moron friends gossip about other idiot women and how frustrated they are with online shopping 



    I HATE THE PANDERING TO US BLACKS 
    I want to vomit at all the broken slang ..
    Even worse is when these idiots change their voice and speech when talking to someone of color..
    SO IGNORANT AND FAKE...

     
    THE DRAFT NERDS ARE a DISGRACE
    Might as well give Poker bad beat guy and Horse track almost hit the Superfecta guy exclusive air time on a daily basis 



     
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    Posted: Apr. 26, 2017 - 9:40 PM ET #16



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    Posted: Apr. 27, 2017 - 1:18 AM ET #17

    Quote Originally Posted by VanDutch:

    Maybe they need more Women anchors and announcers ..


    I watch SNB on mute. 


    I listen to ESPN radio on mute.
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    Quote Originally Posted by VanDutch:

    Maybe they need more Women anchors and announcers ..


    I watch SNB on mute. 


    I listen to ESPN radio on mute.
     
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    Posted: Apr. 27, 2017 - 5:04 AM ET #18

    "We're going to 'hire' as many attractive sports-minded females as possible, we're also going to bring in 'people of color' to upgrade our ratings, and show sports America we (ESPN) are truly a non-discriminatory network"

    Oh! I almost forgot, "and order 250 MORE teleprompters"

    Michael & Jamelle are in dire straits without them....(they mumble, and talk in circles/sh!t without them) watch this show one time, and you'll understand exactly where ESPN is coming from, and where it's going to end up.....

    ESPN is a mere shell of what they were just 8 years ago; their so called 'new look' has become transparently 'ludicrous' however, they did hire/exploit some very attractive(totally unknowledge-able) ladies to foot the bill....

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    "We're going to 'hire' as many attractive sports-minded females as possible, we're also going to bring in 'people of color' to upgrade our ratings, and show sports America we (ESPN) are truly a non-discriminatory network"

    Oh! I almost forgot, "and order 250 MORE teleprompters"

    Michael & Jamelle are in dire straits without them....(they mumble, and talk in circles/sh!t without them) watch this show one time, and you'll understand exactly where ESPN is coming from, and where it's going to end up.....

    ESPN is a mere shell of what they were just 8 years ago; their so called 'new look' has become transparently 'ludicrous' however, they did hire/exploit some very attractive(totally unknowledge-able) ladies to foot the bill....

     
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    Posted: Apr. 27, 2017 - 5:15 AM ET #19

    Quote Originally Posted by vanzack:

    Here is a running list of the layoffs today.

    https://deadspin.com/a-running-list-of-espn-layoffs-1794664091

    WOWZER....

    That's some list, and growing by the week (all  'old school' candidates)

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    Quote Originally Posted by vanzack:

    Here is a running list of the layoffs today.

    https://deadspin.com/a-running-list-of-espn-layoffs-1794664091

    WOWZER....

    That's some list, and growing by the week (all  'old school' candidates)

     
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    Posted: Apr. 27, 2017 - 5:26 AM ET #20

    Quote Originally Posted by DoubleUp4Life:

     


    "I HATE THE PANDERING TO US BLACKS 
    I want to vomit at all the broken slang ..
    Even worse is when these idiots change their voice and speech when talking to someone of color..
    SO IGNORANT AND FAKE"...

     




    bullseye.....

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    Quote Originally Posted by DoubleUp4Life:

     


    "I HATE THE PANDERING TO US BLACKS 
    I want to vomit at all the broken slang ..
    Even worse is when these idiots change their voice and speech when talking to someone of color..
    SO IGNORANT AND FAKE"...

     




    bullseye.....

     
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    For all us "old school" people ESPN was a small miracle !!  Most of you young guys don't realize  the only sports news on TV was 3 minutes on your local news before ESPN news.. At the start it was  the same taped sports news all day long on tape with no update and cheer leading competition was a huge part of the TV time . But with that said they will always hold a special place in my heart for bringing sport new's to the all of us all day long.. Thanks for the memories ESPN you changed the game for sports news and paved the way for all the copy cat's.. At the end of the day all the detractor's today also owe you a tip of the hat.!!  GL ESPN you were the Wright Brothers of sports TV there is  no runner up in this space. Wishing you all the best for bringing sports coverage into my life .. We went from 3 minutes a day to 24 hrs ...  ... 
    Be careful with the axe Eugene.
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    For all us "old school" people ESPN was a small miracle !!  Most of you young guys don't realize  the only sports news on TV was 3 minutes on your local news before ESPN news.. At the start it was  the same taped sports news all day long on tape with no update and cheer leading competition was a huge part of the TV time . But with that said they will always hold a special place in my heart for bringing sport new's to the all of us all day long.. Thanks for the memories ESPN you changed the game for sports news and paved the way for all the copy cat's.. At the end of the day all the detractor's today also owe you a tip of the hat.!!  GL ESPN you were the Wright Brothers of sports TV there is  no runner up in this space. Wishing you all the best for bringing sports coverage into my life .. We went from 3 minutes a day to 24 hrs ...  ... 
     
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    Quote Originally Posted by ArtSchlichterJr:

    For all us "old school" people ESPN was a small miracle !!  Most of you young guys don't realize  the only sports news on TV was 3 minutes on your local news before ESPN news.. At the start it was  the same taped sports news all day long on tape with no update and cheer leading competition was a huge part of the TV time . But with that said they will always hold a special place in my heart for bringing sport new's to the all of us all day long.. Thanks for the memories ESPN you changed the game for sports news and paved the way for all the copy cat's.. At the end of the day all the detractor's today also owe you a tip of the hat.!!  GL ESPN you were the Wright Brothers of sports TV there is  no runner up in this space. Wishing you all the best for bringing sports coverage into my life .. We went from 3 minutes a day to 24 hrs ...  ... 
    I agree.......especially their coverage of college sports. They filled a niche that badly needed filling. Unfortunately, somewhere along the line, they lost focus on what made them attractive in the first place.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ArtSchlichterJr:

    For all us "old school" people ESPN was a small miracle !!  Most of you young guys don't realize  the only sports news on TV was 3 minutes on your local news before ESPN news.. At the start it was  the same taped sports news all day long on tape with no update and cheer leading competition was a huge part of the TV time . But with that said they will always hold a special place in my heart for bringing sport new's to the all of us all day long.. Thanks for the memories ESPN you changed the game for sports news and paved the way for all the copy cat's.. At the end of the day all the detractor's today also owe you a tip of the hat.!!  GL ESPN you were the Wright Brothers of sports TV there is  no runner up in this space. Wishing you all the best for bringing sports coverage into my life .. We went from 3 minutes a day to 24 hrs ...  ... 
    I agree.......especially their coverage of college sports. They filled a niche that badly needed filling. Unfortunately, somewhere along the line, they lost focus on what made them attractive in the first place.
     
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    Posted: Apr. 27, 2017 - 8:42 AM ET #23

    ESPN has done over the last few years a lot of things that have hurt their bottom line and i'll name a few

    1. Overspent for NFL and NBA coverage

    ESPN pays 1.1 Billion for the MNF package. A package where they don't get to flex games out. And when they moved MNF to ESPN in 2006 the NFL basically said they didn't care about MNF as they were going to make Sunday Night Football on NBC the game of the week. And in the new ESPN NFL deal they get a playoff game wildcard weekend... The worst one

    Same in the NBA though basically every network overspent on the NBA and that's why the Salary Cap is skyrocketing in the NBA

    2. Too much NFL coverage

    The reasoning the NFL had for Thursday Night football was they needed it to save the NFL Network. My response then was you don't need the NFL Network....Because ESPN IS the NFL Network. Not everything that happens in the NFL is that important and what hurts in that mark for ESPN is the NFL ratings are down and i think will continue to drop

    3. They can say what they want but they're political

    ESPN made this choice a long time ago which has hurt them with conservatives and with just average people who want to watch the game. Whether it be the town halls about black issues/them supporting Black Lives Matter. To the nonstop talking about Kaepernick and his BS from last year to the Caitlyn Jenner mess. ESPN has really gone like one write said to appealing to the liberal fringe on social media and in the process turned the rest of the country off

    2 issues in my view hurt ESPN the most. We all remember a couple years ago the Michael Sam situation where he came out and the majority of us said "Good for you I guys GL to you and make us some money" The majority of people didn't give 2 bleeps and a holler about Michael Sam's sexual preference. ESPN went on and on and on and on about it which led to the draft where he got picked and he kissed his boyfriend

    The reason I think the kiss between Sam and his BF bothered me and others was it looked staged. I remember someone here pointing that out when it happened and you had the ridiculousness of them feeding each other wedding cake which was dumb. It seemed like an ESPN publicity stunt. And then we he got to training camp with the Rams you had that reporter discuss Sam's showering habits. I mean WTF is that? What do you think he's going to do in the shower? Did you think he'd look at Sam Bradford and be like Hey Bradford your penis looks like a penis except its smaller

    The 2nd issue which hurt ESPN with me was all throughout the CFB season LY every Saturday a game on ESPN or ESPN2 would go to commercial and you'd see a Hillary Clinton Stronger together ad. Now I realize some of you would say "packers you supported and voted for Trump so of course you hated Hillary ads and if they were Trump ads you would've said nothing" and you'd be wrong. I think the majority of us watch and bet sports...To get away from the BS in politics and the world. I don't believe political ads belong on a sports network

    Just my 2 cents guys and I don't think ESPN can recover from the mess they've made over the last number of years

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    ESPN has done over the last few years a lot of things that have hurt their bottom line and i'll name a few

    1. Overspent for NFL and NBA coverage

    ESPN pays 1.1 Billion for the MNF package. A package where they don't get to flex games out. And when they moved MNF to ESPN in 2006 the NFL basically said they didn't care about MNF as they were going to make Sunday Night Football on NBC the game of the week. And in the new ESPN NFL deal they get a playoff game wildcard weekend... The worst one

    Same in the NBA though basically every network overspent on the NBA and that's why the Salary Cap is skyrocketing in the NBA

    2. Too much NFL coverage

    The reasoning the NFL had for Thursday Night football was they needed it to save the NFL Network. My response then was you don't need the NFL Network....Because ESPN IS the NFL Network. Not everything that happens in the NFL is that important and what hurts in that mark for ESPN is the NFL ratings are down and i think will continue to drop

    3. They can say what they want but they're political

    ESPN made this choice a long time ago which has hurt them with conservatives and with just average people who want to watch the game. Whether it be the town halls about black issues/them supporting Black Lives Matter. To the nonstop talking about Kaepernick and his BS from last year to the Caitlyn Jenner mess. ESPN has really gone like one write said to appealing to the liberal fringe on social media and in the process turned the rest of the country off

    2 issues in my view hurt ESPN the most. We all remember a couple years ago the Michael Sam situation where he came out and the majority of us said "Good for you I guys GL to you and make us some money" The majority of people didn't give 2 bleeps and a holler about Michael Sam's sexual preference. ESPN went on and on and on and on about it which led to the draft where he got picked and he kissed his boyfriend

    The reason I think the kiss between Sam and his BF bothered me and others was it looked staged. I remember someone here pointing that out when it happened and you had the ridiculousness of them feeding each other wedding cake which was dumb. It seemed like an ESPN publicity stunt. And then we he got to training camp with the Rams you had that reporter discuss Sam's showering habits. I mean WTF is that? What do you think he's going to do in the shower? Did you think he'd look at Sam Bradford and be like Hey Bradford your penis looks like a penis except its smaller

    The 2nd issue which hurt ESPN with me was all throughout the CFB season LY every Saturday a game on ESPN or ESPN2 would go to commercial and you'd see a Hillary Clinton Stronger together ad. Now I realize some of you would say "packers you supported and voted for Trump so of course you hated Hillary ads and if they were Trump ads you would've said nothing" and you'd be wrong. I think the majority of us watch and bet sports...To get away from the BS in politics and the world. I don't believe political ads belong on a sports network

    Just my 2 cents guys and I don't think ESPN can recover from the mess they've made over the last number of years

     
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    Posted: Apr. 27, 2017 - 8:44 AM ET #24

    also forgot to mention in college sports ESPN has really whether they believe or not sold its soul to the SEC. The SEC is a great league but every freaking day whether its Gameday or College Football live its the same verbal diaharrea

    Today on College Football Live: SEC this SEC that

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    also forgot to mention in college sports ESPN has really whether they believe or not sold its soul to the SEC. The SEC is a great league but every freaking day whether its Gameday or College Football live its the same verbal diaharrea

    Today on College Football Live: SEC this SEC that

     
     
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    Posted: Apr. 27, 2017 - 8:53 AM ET #25

    packers

     Instead of maintaining any sense of integrity, they fell prey to the "anything for ratings" mentality.
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    packers

     Instead of maintaining any sense of integrity, they fell prey to the "anything for ratings" mentality.
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