ESPN has been doing dumb stuff like this for years now... and they will suffer. How long before Colin is welcomed to FS1 ?? I think we will see him there or elsewhere very soon.
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Cowherd fired from ESPN for saying something about the MLB players from the Dominican Republic.
Listen to the whole 59 seconds - after you hear what he was fired for... I think Colin got screwed.
ESPN has been doing dumb stuff like this for years now... and they will suffer. How long before Colin is welcomed to FS1 ?? I think we will see him there or elsewhere very soon.
I find it hard to believe that the brass at ESPN is so soft and PC correct to make this decision in a vacuum. I would guess that Colin had some bad blood with mgt and they used this to pull the trigger. Remember, this is the same organization that was so happy to show Dan Patrick the door several years ago.
I find it hard to believe that the brass at ESPN is so soft and PC correct to make this decision in a vacuum. I would guess that Colin had some bad blood with mgt and they used this to pull the trigger. Remember, this is the same organization that was so happy to show Dan Patrick the door several years ago.
Okay - Now I understand that Cowherd signed about a week ago to go work for Fox Sports. He had one week left with his current employer ESPN.
This makes a firing that was a bit tough to understand turn into the punk move of the decade in sports media.
ESPN is done - stick a fork in them. Fox will rule this 24 hour space much like every other market they decide to enter. ESPN will soon be a footnote in the list of once great cable networks that choked on their own success.... much like MTV.
Okay - Now I understand that Cowherd signed about a week ago to go work for Fox Sports. He had one week left with his current employer ESPN.
This makes a firing that was a bit tough to understand turn into the punk move of the decade in sports media.
ESPN is done - stick a fork in them. Fox will rule this 24 hour space much like every other market they decide to enter. ESPN will soon be a footnote in the list of once great cable networks that choked on their own success.... much like MTV.
Agree- I didn't hear anything particularly offensive- sounds about right to me- I think his bigger point is actually more interesting- The DR is a third world country... It just is.... If someone wants to defend, and/or celebrate their education system- I'm certainly willing to listen- What is the controversy-
I think Cowherd is a prick- so don't really care that he's gone- but not because of this silliness-
Agree- I didn't hear anything particularly offensive- sounds about right to me- I think his bigger point is actually more interesting- The DR is a third world country... It just is.... If someone wants to defend, and/or celebrate their education system- I'm certainly willing to listen- What is the controversy-
I think Cowherd is a prick- so don't really care that he's gone- but not because of this silliness-
Well Missed the part about he was already gone- Now makes perfect sense-
You seem like a smart guy - but I think you are missing a point here - at least I just realized what may be happening.
ESPN knows that Cowherd is one of their money makers (like him or not he is). So Cowherd is tired of the ESPN BS, and he sees that FS1 is eating up ratings at the expense of ESPN, so me makes the correct business move to take his talents to FS1.
ESPN mgt is so upset. FS1 is eating their lunch, and taking their best talent and they cannot seem to stop it. What do they do? They fired one of their break earners because he is leaving. Is it because they are petty and want to embarrass Cowherd? No it is because they know where he is going, and they want FS1 to now have "damaged goods". They don't know what else to do, so they play politics.
Quote Originally Posted by Dsn150:
Well Missed the part about he was already gone- Now makes perfect sense-
You seem like a smart guy - but I think you are missing a point here - at least I just realized what may be happening.
ESPN knows that Cowherd is one of their money makers (like him or not he is). So Cowherd is tired of the ESPN BS, and he sees that FS1 is eating up ratings at the expense of ESPN, so me makes the correct business move to take his talents to FS1.
ESPN mgt is so upset. FS1 is eating their lunch, and taking their best talent and they cannot seem to stop it. What do they do? They fired one of their break earners because he is leaving. Is it because they are petty and want to embarrass Cowherd? No it is because they know where he is going, and they want FS1 to now have "damaged goods". They don't know what else to do, so they play politics.
I don't think the "racist" label will stick with Colin. Anybody who has listened to him knows he is not a racist - as much as we can understand about somebody that talks all day, but we do not actually know him.
I was reading the "comments" under the news story... and it seems 90% of the replies are "there is nothing there"
I don't think the "racist" label will stick with Colin. Anybody who has listened to him knows he is not a racist - as much as we can understand about somebody that talks all day, but we do not actually know him.
I was reading the "comments" under the news story... and it seems 90% of the replies are "there is nothing there"
Canned Dan Patrick years ago, don't know what to do with Obermann (fired him again), Bill Simmons shown the door (all he did was create Grantland for them), and took quite the courageous stand to "fire" Cowherd with the clock ticking on his new contract at FS1.
Should make it a clean sweep and get rid of SEC Network........
We're talking FoxSports, Mr. Juan, not News.
ESPN is on quite a roll.
Canned Dan Patrick years ago, don't know what to do with Obermann (fired him again), Bill Simmons shown the door (all he did was create Grantland for them), and took quite the courageous stand to "fire" Cowherd with the clock ticking on his new contract at FS1.
Should make it a clean sweep and get rid of SEC Network........
That was the most offensive remarks I have heard on the radio in a long time.
This is the gist of his remarks:
Dominicans are well educated so they play baseball, which makes baseball a dumb sport.
If you are a baseball fan, baseball player or Dominican this has to offend you. Baseball is far from a dumb sport and it is one of the few sports that requires every player to think on their feet.
And it is a dumb point to, because the well educated people in this country or any country are not the athletes of any sport. Athletes usually come from the poorer segments of the population which are the less well educated people.
That was the most offensive remarks I have heard on the radio in a long time.
This is the gist of his remarks:
Dominicans are well educated so they play baseball, which makes baseball a dumb sport.
If you are a baseball fan, baseball player or Dominican this has to offend you. Baseball is far from a dumb sport and it is one of the few sports that requires every player to think on their feet.
And it is a dumb point to, because the well educated people in this country or any country are not the athletes of any sport. Athletes usually come from the poorer segments of the population which are the less well educated people.
Pretty funny that a big liberal like Cowherd gets busted by the PC police.
He was already gone, and ESPN decided to go after him.....shows you the kind of guys (and gals) that are running ESPN......maybe remember that the next time you look at an ESPN College football poll, or the 24 hour loop of "deflate gate" coverage.
ESPN is worthless.
Never Make A Winner A Loser. Never.
Pretty funny that a big liberal like Cowherd gets busted by the PC police.
He was already gone, and ESPN decided to go after him.....shows you the kind of guys (and gals) that are running ESPN......maybe remember that the next time you look at an ESPN College football poll, or the 24 hour loop of "deflate gate" coverage.
What is surprising was that CC was on the radio at all this week.He may have been doing mgt. a favor to play out his contract but be assured if he mentioned the word Fox he would have been pulled .On thur. after CC shot from the hip 1 last time mgt. asked "why we dancing for a traitor?" Colin Cowherd is no longer in the Radio Universe and how much air-time is he going to get for Fox NFL TV,which is why he left espn.
What is surprising was that CC was on the radio at all this week.He may have been doing mgt. a favor to play out his contract but be assured if he mentioned the word Fox he would have been pulled .On thur. after CC shot from the hip 1 last time mgt. asked "why we dancing for a traitor?" Colin Cowherd is no longer in the Radio Universe and how much air-time is he going to get for Fox NFL TV,which is why he left espn.
Pretty funny that a big liberal like Cowherd gets busted by the PC police.
He was already gone, and ESPN decided to go after him.....shows you the kind of guys (and gals) that are running ESPN......maybe remember that the next time you look at an ESPN College football poll, or the 24 hour loop of "deflate gate" coverage.
ESPN is worthless.
You think Cowherd...is a lib..LOL.
I listen to him every day specifically because is straightforward about spreads and gambling, despite these ultra-idiotic comments.
Outside of his support for g ay marriage and the LGBT lifestyle (which is more ESPN policy than his views) he is definitely a conservative.
Quote Originally Posted by bigvern1013:
Pretty funny that a big liberal like Cowherd gets busted by the PC police.
He was already gone, and ESPN decided to go after him.....shows you the kind of guys (and gals) that are running ESPN......maybe remember that the next time you look at an ESPN College football poll, or the 24 hour loop of "deflate gate" coverage.
ESPN is worthless.
You think Cowherd...is a lib..LOL.
I listen to him every day specifically because is straightforward about spreads and gambling, despite these ultra-idiotic comments.
Outside of his support for g ay marriage and the LGBT lifestyle (which is more ESPN policy than his views) he is definitely a conservative.
Cowherd is definitely NOT a Liberal - but he is also not a card carrying right winger.
For the most part his opinions and analysis tells me that he is conservative. He has to be to find the truth in situations which is something he does well. But he definitely has a few left leanings with social issues.
Cowherd is definitely NOT a Liberal - but he is also not a card carrying right winger.
For the most part his opinions and analysis tells me that he is conservative. He has to be to find the truth in situations which is something he does well. But he definitely has a few left leanings with social issues.
Cowherd is definitely NOT a Liberal - but he is also not a card carrying right winger.
For the most part his opinions and analysis tells me that he is conservative. He has to be to find the truth in situations which is something he does well. But he definitely has a few left leanings with social issues.
I like him a lot for his sports---but on social issues he seems very liberal. Not on fiscal as much. Could care less about it because I like his schtick--but he is a liberal to me.
Amazing that folks are that sensitive. Obviously he could have said it differently. Same reason so many poor blacks play basketball before now. All you needed was a ball. Etc. , etc.
'You can't walk you way off the island'---there is a realization that baseball is a chance to escape the poverty.
You can hit, field, throw; or you can't. Hone those skills.
The strategy is all in managing the game, etc. Doesn't take away from the skill to play. Skill is not the same as strategy.
Weird to be so sensitve. Especially when he has never seemed racist at all.
Quote Originally Posted by SportsFan9698:
Cowherd is definitely NOT a Liberal - but he is also not a card carrying right winger.
For the most part his opinions and analysis tells me that he is conservative. He has to be to find the truth in situations which is something he does well. But he definitely has a few left leanings with social issues.
I like him a lot for his sports---but on social issues he seems very liberal. Not on fiscal as much. Could care less about it because I like his schtick--but he is a liberal to me.
Amazing that folks are that sensitive. Obviously he could have said it differently. Same reason so many poor blacks play basketball before now. All you needed was a ball. Etc. , etc.
'You can't walk you way off the island'---there is a realization that baseball is a chance to escape the poverty.
You can hit, field, throw; or you can't. Hone those skills.
The strategy is all in managing the game, etc. Doesn't take away from the skill to play. Skill is not the same as strategy.
Weird to be so sensitve. Especially when he has never seemed racist at all.
How can you be outraged at his comments? If you are Dominican and actually from the DR that is basically the only way you could be somewhat offended. They are a 3rd world country, and the education system there is not equivalent to what it is in other countries. That's a proven fact.
How can you be outraged at his comments? If you are Dominican and actually from the DR that is basically the only way you could be somewhat offended. They are a 3rd world country, and the education system there is not equivalent to what it is in other countries. That's a proven fact.
I'm not outraged. I'm more disappointed and saddened because of his unceremonious dismissal from a radio chair he served well, as well as what he chose to focus on with regard to what he said.
He was making a very salient point about how every player on a baseball team could be from a different country and they could communicate in a 'baseball language' and still be a great team.
Then he took 54 seconds of radio to focus on the DR's education system (which is unfair to the target group despite the massive problems in that banana republic, which is the main reason that education system is so poor) and doubled down on it the next day.
It is completely unwarranted to focus on Dominican ballplayers despite their massive success in the major league. The comments reminded me of how people used to think blacks couldn't be QB's because the position was too advanced (this remarkably, kept one of the greatest QB's of all time, Warren Moon, out of the NFL and in the CFL for such a large portion of his career, and it denied him a number of all-time NFL passing records that might have never been broken).
I've listened to him thousands of times during commutes and I can definitively say he isn't a racist.
He had one minute of misguided radio broadcasting and now will likely be defined by it.
Very sad. I hope to see him back on the airwaves soon somewhere putting his comments out to pasture.
The conversation about the DR and how the country educates its masses is a separate one and was not appropriate with regard to his larger point, which was a good one!
Quote Originally Posted by benhogan76:
Are you not outraged at his comments?
I'm not outraged. I'm more disappointed and saddened because of his unceremonious dismissal from a radio chair he served well, as well as what he chose to focus on with regard to what he said.
He was making a very salient point about how every player on a baseball team could be from a different country and they could communicate in a 'baseball language' and still be a great team.
Then he took 54 seconds of radio to focus on the DR's education system (which is unfair to the target group despite the massive problems in that banana republic, which is the main reason that education system is so poor) and doubled down on it the next day.
It is completely unwarranted to focus on Dominican ballplayers despite their massive success in the major league. The comments reminded me of how people used to think blacks couldn't be QB's because the position was too advanced (this remarkably, kept one of the greatest QB's of all time, Warren Moon, out of the NFL and in the CFL for such a large portion of his career, and it denied him a number of all-time NFL passing records that might have never been broken).
I've listened to him thousands of times during commutes and I can definitively say he isn't a racist.
He had one minute of misguided radio broadcasting and now will likely be defined by it.
Very sad. I hope to see him back on the airwaves soon somewhere putting his comments out to pasture.
The conversation about the DR and how the country educates its masses is a separate one and was not appropriate with regard to his larger point, which was a good one!
Maybe Moneyball (not the movie) or another book but the author wrote about steroids an baseball and players coming up from Latin America. His point was they had the choice of 'juicing' like all the other players trying to get a spot on a roster where, or they could go back to the rice fields.
Did Cowherd really say anything much different tan that?
Maybe Moneyball (not the movie) or another book but the author wrote about steroids an baseball and players coming up from Latin America. His point was they had the choice of 'juicing' like all the other players trying to get a spot on a roster where, or they could go back to the rice fields.
Did Cowherd really say anything much different tan that?
ESPN is full of its own s**t. Only reason they canned Cowherd was because he never re-upped his deal with them, instead to be taking a job with FS.
He would have gotten the infamous 1 week suspension a la Stephen A, Tony Kornheiser and Britt McHenry, the biggest, dumbest b**tch of them all.
Other than live sporting events, I don't see how anyone could justify watching such a pathetic, backstabbing, two-faced network as they are. Mike & Mike is a microcosm of that network: 100% assskissing, political correctives of an 80-year old white liberal candidate and narcissistic radio/television. Insufferable. You can see why guys like Van Pelt ran away as fast as they could, getting absolutely no support from the network because he wanted to be different.
ESPN is full of its own s**t. Only reason they canned Cowherd was because he never re-upped his deal with them, instead to be taking a job with FS.
He would have gotten the infamous 1 week suspension a la Stephen A, Tony Kornheiser and Britt McHenry, the biggest, dumbest b**tch of them all.
Other than live sporting events, I don't see how anyone could justify watching such a pathetic, backstabbing, two-faced network as they are. Mike & Mike is a microcosm of that network: 100% assskissing, political correctives of an 80-year old white liberal candidate and narcissistic radio/television. Insufferable. You can see why guys like Van Pelt ran away as fast as they could, getting absolutely no support from the network because he wanted to be different.
And I don't agree with what Cowherd said at all. It was a real foot in mouth moment and I know he wish he could take it back himself because the comparison he was making had no foundation to build any kind of truth on.
Still, the comments weren't nearly as bad as McHenry's, and I say they landed right on the same runway as Stephen A. So had he not been leaving the mothership, he would have gotten the same treatment as the both aforementioned. Knowing this makes ESPN look stupid, cowardly and...full of s**t.
These are Cowherd's comments. I'd say more irrational, zero fact-based and digging a no material left for the last hour hole qualities than racism, but that's just the way I heard it. He was using the DR as an example for a big picture, like he talked about Nebraska during his rant about how they will never be good again because no kid wants to go to a boring, slow place like that.
"It's baseball," Cowherd said Thursday. "You don't think a general manager can manage? Like it's impossible? The game is too complex? I've never bought into that, 'Baseball's just too complex.' Really? A third of the sport is from the Dominican Republic. The Dominican Republic has not been known in my lifetime as having world-class academic abilities. A lot of those kids come from rough backgrounds and have not had opportunities academically that other kids from other countries have.
"Baseball is like any sport. It's mostly instincts. A sports writer who covers baseball could go up to Tony La Russa and have a real baseball argument, and Tony would listen and it would seem reasonable. There's not a single NFL writer in the country who could diagram a play for Bill Belichick. You know, we get caught up in this whole 'thinking-man's game.' Is it in the same family? Most people could do it. It's not being a concert pianist. It's in the same family."
And I don't agree with what Cowherd said at all. It was a real foot in mouth moment and I know he wish he could take it back himself because the comparison he was making had no foundation to build any kind of truth on.
Still, the comments weren't nearly as bad as McHenry's, and I say they landed right on the same runway as Stephen A. So had he not been leaving the mothership, he would have gotten the same treatment as the both aforementioned. Knowing this makes ESPN look stupid, cowardly and...full of s**t.
These are Cowherd's comments. I'd say more irrational, zero fact-based and digging a no material left for the last hour hole qualities than racism, but that's just the way I heard it. He was using the DR as an example for a big picture, like he talked about Nebraska during his rant about how they will never be good again because no kid wants to go to a boring, slow place like that.
"It's baseball," Cowherd said Thursday. "You don't think a general manager can manage? Like it's impossible? The game is too complex? I've never bought into that, 'Baseball's just too complex.' Really? A third of the sport is from the Dominican Republic. The Dominican Republic has not been known in my lifetime as having world-class academic abilities. A lot of those kids come from rough backgrounds and have not had opportunities academically that other kids from other countries have.
"Baseball is like any sport. It's mostly instincts. A sports writer who covers baseball could go up to Tony La Russa and have a real baseball argument, and Tony would listen and it would seem reasonable. There's not a single NFL writer in the country who could diagram a play for Bill Belichick. You know, we get caught up in this whole 'thinking-man's game.' Is it in the same family? Most people could do it. It's not being a concert pianist. It's in the same family."
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