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    If Christ died on the cross for all of humanity

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    Rostos
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    Posted: Jan. 3, 2012 - 3:26 AM ET #4076

    Luke 16 - 14:31

    There was a rich man who was dressed in purple and fine linen and lived in luxury every day. 20 At his gate was laid a beggar named Lazarus, covered with sores 21 and longing to eat what fell from the rich man’s table. Even the dogs came and licked his sores. 22 “The time came when the beggar died and the angels carried him to Abraham’s side. The rich man also died and was buried. 23 In hell, where he was in torment, he looked up and saw Abraham far away, with Lazarus by his side. 24 So he called to him, ‘Father Abraham, have pity on me and send Lazarus to dip the tip of his finger in water and cool my tongue, because I am in agony in this fire.’ 25 “But Abraham replied, ‘Son, remember that in your lifetime you received your good things, while Lazarus received bad things, but now he is comforted here and you are in agony. 26 And besides all this, between us and you a great chasm has been fixed, so that those who want to go from here to you cannot, nor can anyone cross over from there to us.’ 27 “He answered, ‘Then I beg you, father, send Lazarus to my father’s house, 28 for I have five brothers. Let him warn them, so that they will not also come to this place of torment.’ 29 “Abraham replied, ‘They have Moses and the Prophets; let them listen to them.’ 30 “‘No, father Abraham,’ he said, ‘but if someone from the dead goes to them, they will repent.’ 31 “He said to him, ‘If they do not listen to Moses and the Prophets, they will not be convinced even if someone rises from the dead.’ “

    Moral of the story?

    If someone is going to supress the truth, it doesnt what comes in front of them, they will always deny.

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    Luke 16 - 14:31

    There was a rich man who was dressed in purple and fine linen and lived in luxury every day. 20 At his gate was laid a beggar named Lazarus, covered with sores 21 and longing to eat what fell from the rich man’s table. Even the dogs came and licked his sores. 22 “The time came when the beggar died and the angels carried him to Abraham’s side. The rich man also died and was buried. 23 In hell, where he was in torment, he looked up and saw Abraham far away, with Lazarus by his side. 24 So he called to him, ‘Father Abraham, have pity on me and send Lazarus to dip the tip of his finger in water and cool my tongue, because I am in agony in this fire.’ 25 “But Abraham replied, ‘Son, remember that in your lifetime you received your good things, while Lazarus received bad things, but now he is comforted here and you are in agony. 26 And besides all this, between us and you a great chasm has been fixed, so that those who want to go from here to you cannot, nor can anyone cross over from there to us.’ 27 “He answered, ‘Then I beg you, father, send Lazarus to my father’s house, 28 for I have five brothers. Let him warn them, so that they will not also come to this place of torment.’ 29 “Abraham replied, ‘They have Moses and the Prophets; let them listen to them.’ 30 “‘No, father Abraham,’ he said, ‘but if someone from the dead goes to them, they will repent.’ 31 “He said to him, ‘If they do not listen to Moses and the Prophets, they will not be convinced even if someone rises from the dead.’ “

    Moral of the story?

    If someone is going to supress the truth, it doesnt what comes in front of them, they will always deny.

     
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    Posted: Jan. 3, 2012 - 3:28 AM ET #4077

    Quote Originally Posted by Mikniks:


    My evidence that god doesn't exist is that there is no evidence that one does exist.

    You don't even understand logical fallacies because your brain can't grasp them.  Quite comical really...

    You don't even realize it but you yourself are guilty of this vicious circle better known as the "logical fallacy"...lol

    And I can agree with you that indeed it is....Quite comical really...lol

    Just simply saying there is no evidence that God exist is not evidence at all. That is an argument based on incorrect demonstration. It is not a valid argument.

    Because I could say, but there are evidences that I have given you. Then you could say, but I don't believe them. Then I could say, why don't you believe them. They you could say, they are not evidences but lies. Then I could say, how do you know they are lies...lol

    So whatever you claim we theists are guilty of, you are guilty of it yourselves...lol

    Because just as much as we can't prove the existence of God, neither can you prove the non-existence of God.

    Then you are going to say but the burden of proof is on the theist to prove. Then I would say, why is the burden on us. Then you will say because you are making the claim. Then I will say, aren't you making a claim yourself when you say God doesn't exist....lol and so It goes on and on and on and on...lol

    The bottom line is that I know no one can prove or disprove on whether God exist or doesn't. It is a matter of faith.

    So from now on don't ask for evidences or proof...understand? You either believe or don't. 

     

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mikniks:


    My evidence that god doesn't exist is that there is no evidence that one does exist.

    You don't even understand logical fallacies because your brain can't grasp them.  Quite comical really...

    You don't even realize it but you yourself are guilty of this vicious circle better known as the "logical fallacy"...lol

    And I can agree with you that indeed it is....Quite comical really...lol

    Just simply saying there is no evidence that God exist is not evidence at all. That is an argument based on incorrect demonstration. It is not a valid argument.

    Because I could say, but there are evidences that I have given you. Then you could say, but I don't believe them. Then I could say, why don't you believe them. They you could say, they are not evidences but lies. Then I could say, how do you know they are lies...lol

    So whatever you claim we theists are guilty of, you are guilty of it yourselves...lol

    Because just as much as we can't prove the existence of God, neither can you prove the non-existence of God.

    Then you are going to say but the burden of proof is on the theist to prove. Then I would say, why is the burden on us. Then you will say because you are making the claim. Then I will say, aren't you making a claim yourself when you say God doesn't exist....lol and so It goes on and on and on and on...lol

    The bottom line is that I know no one can prove or disprove on whether God exist or doesn't. It is a matter of faith.

    So from now on don't ask for evidences or proof...understand? You either believe or don't. 

     

     
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    Posted: Jan. 3, 2012 - 3:33 AM ET #4078

    Quote Originally Posted by Rostos:

    Miknicks said

    "Anyone who believes in something without evidence should be considered insane".

    Ok,

    Last week i ate an apple for luch. I find out it on my front lawn and ate it.

    How can i prove that?

     


    Are you drunk?  What is this?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rostos:

    Miknicks said

    "Anyone who believes in something without evidence should be considered insane".

    Ok,

    Last week i ate an apple for luch. I find out it on my front lawn and ate it.

    How can i prove that?

     


    Are you drunk?  What is this?
     
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    Posted: Jan. 3, 2012 - 3:53 AM ET #4079

    Quote Originally Posted by SirJohnDrake:

    You don't even realize it but you yourself are guilty of this vicious circle better known as the "logical fallacy"...lol

    And I can agree with you that indeed it is....Quite comical really...lol

    Just simply saying there is no evidence that God exist is not evidence at all. That is an argument based on incorrect demonstration. It is not a valid argument.

    Because I could say, but there are evidences that I have given you. Then you could say, but I don't believe them. Then I could say, why don't you believe them. They you could say, they are not evidences but lies. Then I could say, how do you know they are lies...lol

    So whatever you claim we theists are guilty of, you are guilty of it yourselves...lol

    Because just as much as we can't prove the existence of God, neither can you prove the non-existence of God.

    Then you are going to say but the burden of proof is on the theist to prove. Then I would say, why is the burden on us. Then you will say because you are making the claim. Then I will say, aren't you making a claim yourself when you say God doesn't exist....lol and so It goes on and on and on and on...lol

    The bottom line is that I know no one can prove or disprove on whether God exist or doesn't. It is a matter of faith.

    So from now on don't ask for evidences or proof...understand? You either believe or don't. 

     


    We aren't making a claim at all. If no one said anything, no one would naturally think a god exists. You only know of god because of the bible. Therefore, you are making a claim. You see the difference?
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    Quote Originally Posted by SirJohnDrake:

    You don't even realize it but you yourself are guilty of this vicious circle better known as the "logical fallacy"...lol

    And I can agree with you that indeed it is....Quite comical really...lol

    Just simply saying there is no evidence that God exist is not evidence at all. That is an argument based on incorrect demonstration. It is not a valid argument.

    Because I could say, but there are evidences that I have given you. Then you could say, but I don't believe them. Then I could say, why don't you believe them. They you could say, they are not evidences but lies. Then I could say, how do you know they are lies...lol

    So whatever you claim we theists are guilty of, you are guilty of it yourselves...lol

    Because just as much as we can't prove the existence of God, neither can you prove the non-existence of God.

    Then you are going to say but the burden of proof is on the theist to prove. Then I would say, why is the burden on us. Then you will say because you are making the claim. Then I will say, aren't you making a claim yourself when you say God doesn't exist....lol and so It goes on and on and on and on...lol

    The bottom line is that I know no one can prove or disprove on whether God exist or doesn't. It is a matter of faith.

    So from now on don't ask for evidences or proof...understand? You either believe or don't. 

     


    We aren't making a claim at all. If no one said anything, no one would naturally think a god exists. You only know of god because of the bible. Therefore, you are making a claim. You see the difference?
     
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    Posted: Jan. 3, 2012 - 3:55 AM ET #4080

    My point is, i cant provide evidence that i ate an apple for lunch, does that mean people should be considered insane  for believing in something that i cant provide evidence for? 

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    My point is, i cant provide evidence that i ate an apple for lunch, does that mean people should be considered insane  for believing in something that i cant provide evidence for? 

     
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    Posted: Jan. 3, 2012 - 3:58 AM ET #4081

    read most of the bible while locked up ... what sucks is the bible was the single most thing that persuaded me that God might not be real 
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    read most of the bible while locked up ... what sucks is the bible was the single most thing that persuaded me that God might not be real 
     
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    Posted: Jan. 3, 2012 - 4:02 AM ET #4082

    Quote Originally Posted by SirJohnDrake:

    You don't even realize it but you yourself are guilty of this vicious circle better known as the "logical fallacy"...lol

    And I can agree with you that indeed it is....Quite comical really...lol

    Just simply saying there is no evidence that God exist is not evidence at all. That is an argument based on incorrect demonstration. It is not a valid argument.

    Because I could say, but there are evidences that I have given you. Then you could say, but I don't believe them. Then I could say, why don't you believe them. They you could say, they are not evidences but lies. Then I could say, how do you know they are lies...lol

    So whatever you claim we theists are guilty of, you are guilty of it yourselves...lol

    Because just as much as we can't prove the existence of God, neither can you prove the non-existence of God.

    Then you are going to say but the burden of proof is on the theist to prove. Then I would say, why is the burden on us. Then you will say because you are making the claim. Then I will say, aren't you making a claim yourself when you say God doesn't exist....lol and so It goes on and on and on and on...lol

    The bottom line is that I know no one can prove or disprove on whether God exist or doesn't. It is a matter of faith.

    So from now on don't ask for evidences or proof...understand? You either believe or don't. 

     



    The point is there should be no argument because there is no evidence.  You and smooth have clearly stated there is no evidence, so how could a rational person believe in something with no evidence.  It is partially because they WANT it to be true, seeing as they are cowards, but I digress.  This is why non-believers tend to have higher IQs.  They are generally better at critical thinking and can see through the bullshit that is religion...

    I'd also like you to please point out the logical fallacy in what I said.  If you're referring to circular logic, surely you are a buffoon.  I don't need an argument because you don't have an argument.  Understand?  There shouldn't even be a discussion, but there is because of small-minded folk such as yourself.


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    Quote Originally Posted by SirJohnDrake:

    You don't even realize it but you yourself are guilty of this vicious circle better known as the "logical fallacy"...lol

    And I can agree with you that indeed it is....Quite comical really...lol

    Just simply saying there is no evidence that God exist is not evidence at all. That is an argument based on incorrect demonstration. It is not a valid argument.

    Because I could say, but there are evidences that I have given you. Then you could say, but I don't believe them. Then I could say, why don't you believe them. They you could say, they are not evidences but lies. Then I could say, how do you know they are lies...lol

    So whatever you claim we theists are guilty of, you are guilty of it yourselves...lol

    Because just as much as we can't prove the existence of God, neither can you prove the non-existence of God.

    Then you are going to say but the burden of proof is on the theist to prove. Then I would say, why is the burden on us. Then you will say because you are making the claim. Then I will say, aren't you making a claim yourself when you say God doesn't exist....lol and so It goes on and on and on and on...lol

    The bottom line is that I know no one can prove or disprove on whether God exist or doesn't. It is a matter of faith.

    So from now on don't ask for evidences or proof...understand? You either believe or don't. 

     



    The point is there should be no argument because there is no evidence.  You and smooth have clearly stated there is no evidence, so how could a rational person believe in something with no evidence.  It is partially because they WANT it to be true, seeing as they are cowards, but I digress.  This is why non-believers tend to have higher IQs.  They are generally better at critical thinking and can see through the bullshit that is religion...

    I'd also like you to please point out the logical fallacy in what I said.  If you're referring to circular logic, surely you are a buffoon.  I don't need an argument because you don't have an argument.  Understand?  There shouldn't even be a discussion, but there is because of small-minded folk such as yourself.


     
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    Posted: Jan. 3, 2012 - 4:03 AM ET #4083

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    Posted: Jan. 3, 2012 - 4:07 AM ET #4084

    Quote Originally Posted by Rostos:

    My point is, i cant provide evidence that i ate an apple for lunch, does that mean people should be considered insane  for believing in something that i cant provide evidence for? 



    Why should they believe you?  They should take your word for it?  How gullible do you want society to be?

    I also can't believe you're comparing eating an apple to the existence of a god.

    Perhaps insane is a strong word, but these people should certainly be considered for the most part stupid.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rostos:

    My point is, i cant provide evidence that i ate an apple for lunch, does that mean people should be considered insane  for believing in something that i cant provide evidence for? 



    Why should they believe you?  They should take your word for it?  How gullible do you want society to be?

    I also can't believe you're comparing eating an apple to the existence of a god.

    Perhaps insane is a strong word, but these people should certainly be considered for the most part stupid.
     
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    Posted: Jan. 3, 2012 - 4:11 AM ET #4085

    If you guys saw the Giant in person, you would know that a God exists
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    If you guys saw the Giant in person, you would know that a God exists
     
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mikniks:



    The point is there should be no argument because there is no evidence.  You and smooth have clearly stated there is no evidence, so how could a rational person believe in something with no evidence. 

    Clearly you are having a hard time comprehending. Where have I said there is no evidence? In my last post I was quoting what your response was to me.

    I have stated several evidences. Do I need to point out the page and the post # for verification?

     

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mikniks:



    The point is there should be no argument because there is no evidence.  You and smooth have clearly stated there is no evidence, so how could a rational person believe in something with no evidence. 

    Clearly you are having a hard time comprehending. Where have I said there is no evidence? In my last post I was quoting what your response was to me.

    I have stated several evidences. Do I need to point out the page and the post # for verification?

     

     
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mikniks:

     

      This is why non-believers tend to have higher IQs.  They are generally better at critical thinking and can see through the bullshit that is religion...


     

    Invalid statements...Logical fallacy alert!...lol

    Those claims you made does it include 20 yr. old kids like yourself? just barely out of puberty?...lol 

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mikniks:

     

      This is why non-believers tend to have higher IQs.  They are generally better at critical thinking and can see through the bullshit that is religion...


     

    Invalid statements...Logical fallacy alert!...lol

    Those claims you made does it include 20 yr. old kids like yourself? just barely out of puberty?...lol 

     
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    Quote Originally Posted by SirJohnDrake:

     

    Invalid statements...Logical fallacy alert!...lol

    Those claims you made does it include 20 yr. old kids like yourself? just barely out of puberty?...lol 



    There is no question you are the dumbest person posting in this thread.  You really shouldn't try to hang with the intellectuals of society such as myself, surf, kitty, and sugar.  Your constant misunderstanding of logical fallacies is astounding, especially because they are quite simple concepts.  What I said comes from scientific study, which I know you don't concern yourself with.

    I'm guessing by the way you write and conduct yourself, you must be about 60 years old.  Like I've stated previously, the world will be a better place when your generation has become fertilizer.  I belong to the smartest generation yet, and this trend will continue into the future, where atheism will grow exponentially (I know, big word for you old timers).
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    Quote Originally Posted by SirJohnDrake:

     

    Invalid statements...Logical fallacy alert!...lol

    Those claims you made does it include 20 yr. old kids like yourself? just barely out of puberty?...lol 



    There is no question you are the dumbest person posting in this thread.  You really shouldn't try to hang with the intellectuals of society such as myself, surf, kitty, and sugar.  Your constant misunderstanding of logical fallacies is astounding, especially because they are quite simple concepts.  What I said comes from scientific study, which I know you don't concern yourself with.

    I'm guessing by the way you write and conduct yourself, you must be about 60 years old.  Like I've stated previously, the world will be a better place when your generation has become fertilizer.  I belong to the smartest generation yet, and this trend will continue into the future, where atheism will grow exponentially (I know, big word for you old timers).
     
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    Posted: Jan. 3, 2012 - 4:56 AM ET #4089

    Quote Originally Posted by TILTOLOGIC:


    I think its safe to say at this point that your very existence is a huge tax on civilized society, and yet you had nerve to procreate? You have a fucking family? LOL I can't imagine the misery your demon spawn has had to live through up to this point. I bet your kids are supremely fucked up and lack an education just like you. Probably more prone to crime as well. Good job Dad! 







    My oldest son is a First Sergeant in the U.S.Marines protecting scum like you pal. You call that trash then go to another country. My 13 year old is an honor student in middle school.  We have Twin boys 11 and one of them is an absolute computer whiz and the other one is in special classes for gifted children. I would say I have done quite well. Thank you very much. We are blessed and thats more than what I can say for your pathetic existence.  
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    Quote Originally Posted by TILTOLOGIC:


    I think its safe to say at this point that your very existence is a huge tax on civilized society, and yet you had nerve to procreate? You have a fucking family? LOL I can't imagine the misery your demon spawn has had to live through up to this point. I bet your kids are supremely fucked up and lack an education just like you. Probably more prone to crime as well. Good job Dad! 







    My oldest son is a First Sergeant in the U.S.Marines protecting scum like you pal. You call that trash then go to another country. My 13 year old is an honor student in middle school.  We have Twin boys 11 and one of them is an absolute computer whiz and the other one is in special classes for gifted children. I would say I have done quite well. Thank you very much. We are blessed and thats more than what I can say for your pathetic existence.  
     
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    Posted: Jan. 3, 2012 - 4:58 AM ET #4090

    Quote Originally Posted by Mikniks:

    Studies comparing religious belief and I.Q

    In 2008, intelligence researcher Helmuth Nyborgexamined whether IQ relates to denomination andincome, using representative data from the National Longitudinal Study of Youth, which includes intelligence tests on a representative selection of white American youth, where they have also replied to questions about religious belief. His results, published in the scientific journal Intelligencedemonstrated that on average, Atheists scored 1.95 IQ points higher than Agnostics, 3.82 points higher than Liberal persuasions, and 5.89 IQ points higher than Dogmatic persuasions. [4]

    The lower the percentage of people in a country that believe in god, the higher the average IQ is of that country. 

    This is comical to me. 



    Just thought I'd move this up.  I know you didn't miss it, you just chose to ignore it, which is fine.  Have a nice night old man!! 
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mikniks:

    Studies comparing religious belief and I.Q

    In 2008, intelligence researcher Helmuth Nyborgexamined whether IQ relates to denomination andincome, using representative data from the National Longitudinal Study of Youth, which includes intelligence tests on a representative selection of white American youth, where they have also replied to questions about religious belief. His results, published in the scientific journal Intelligencedemonstrated that on average, Atheists scored 1.95 IQ points higher than Agnostics, 3.82 points higher than Liberal persuasions, and 5.89 IQ points higher than Dogmatic persuasions. [4]

    The lower the percentage of people in a country that believe in god, the higher the average IQ is of that country. 

    This is comical to me. 



    Just thought I'd move this up.  I know you didn't miss it, you just chose to ignore it, which is fine.  Have a nice night old man!! 
     
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    Posted: Jan. 3, 2012 - 4:59 AM ET #4091

    Quote Originally Posted by KittyKatz286:


    We aren't making a claim at all. If no one said anything, no one would naturally think a god exists. You only know of god because of the bible. Therefore, you are making a claim. You see the difference?
    That is such rubbish. You're born knowing that their is a Supreme Being. Children are naturally close to God. It's only when mentally disturbed people like you tell them otherwise that they start doubting.
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    Quote Originally Posted by KittyKatz286:


    We aren't making a claim at all. If no one said anything, no one would naturally think a god exists. You only know of god because of the bible. Therefore, you are making a claim. You see the difference?
    That is such rubbish. You're born knowing that their is a Supreme Being. Children are naturally close to God. It's only when mentally disturbed people like you tell them otherwise that they start doubting.
     
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    Posted: Jan. 3, 2012 - 5:02 AM ET #4092

    Quote Originally Posted by smoothd20:

    That is such rubbish. You're born knowing that their is a Supreme Being. Children are naturally close to God. It's only when mentally disturbed people like you tell them otherwise that they start doubting.


    You're born knowing nothing at all actually, that is until a mentally disturbed person tells you about the magic man in the sky.  People don't need to be told how stupid religion is.  Most atheists are people who think for themselves instead of listening to what they are told to believe.
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    Quote Originally Posted by smoothd20:

    That is such rubbish. You're born knowing that their is a Supreme Being. Children are naturally close to God. It's only when mentally disturbed people like you tell them otherwise that they start doubting.


    You're born knowing nothing at all actually, that is until a mentally disturbed person tells you about the magic man in the sky.  People don't need to be told how stupid religion is.  Most atheists are people who think for themselves instead of listening to what they are told to believe.
     
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    Posted: Jan. 3, 2012 - 5:03 AM ET #4093

    Quote Originally Posted by Mikniks:



    Just thought I'd move this up.  I know you didn't miss it, you just chose to ignore it, which is fine.  Have a nice night old man!! 
    Appeal to motive, logical fallacy. Just because someone says atheist are smarter doesn't make it so. But in your world whatever you say is right because you know all the answers. You have been spoon fed a bunch of garbage and have eaten it up like a lap dog. Wow!  You're truly pathetic Mikniks. You need to grow a pair son and get from under Mommys dress.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mikniks:



    Just thought I'd move this up.  I know you didn't miss it, you just chose to ignore it, which is fine.  Have a nice night old man!! 
    Appeal to motive, logical fallacy. Just because someone says atheist are smarter doesn't make it so. But in your world whatever you say is right because you know all the answers. You have been spoon fed a bunch of garbage and have eaten it up like a lap dog. Wow!  You're truly pathetic Mikniks. You need to grow a pair son and get from under Mommys dress.
     
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    Quote Originally Posted by smoothd20:


    My oldest son is a First Sergeant in the U.S.Marines protecting scum like you pal (Doing god's will I'm sure). You call that trash then go to another country. My 13 year old is an honor student in middle school (truly amazing accomplishment).  We have Twin boys 11 and one of them is an absolute computer whiz (yes I'm sure he's quite good at minesweeper) and the other one is in special classes for gifted children (Sylvan Learning Center is for special kids alright). I would say I have done quite well. Thank you very much. We are blessed and thats more than what I can say for your pathetic existence.  
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    Quote Originally Posted by smoothd20:


    My oldest son is a First Sergeant in the U.S.Marines protecting scum like you pal (Doing god's will I'm sure). You call that trash then go to another country. My 13 year old is an honor student in middle school (truly amazing accomplishment).  We have Twin boys 11 and one of them is an absolute computer whiz (yes I'm sure he's quite good at minesweeper) and the other one is in special classes for gifted children (Sylvan Learning Center is for special kids alright). I would say I have done quite well. Thank you very much. We are blessed and thats more than what I can say for your pathetic existence.  
     
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    Posted: Jan. 3, 2012 - 5:05 AM ET #4095

    Quote Originally Posted by Mikniks:

     

    You really shouldn't try to hang with the intellectuals of society such as myself, surf, kitty, and sugar. 

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mikniks:

     

    You really shouldn't try to hang with the intellectuals of society such as myself, surf, kitty, and sugar. 

     
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    Mikniks- I notice you conveniently skipped the question I asked about your living status. I nailed your boy Surfape right on the head knowing that his life was empty. No wife and no children because no woman would put up with his crap. I'm sure I was right about you living in Mommy and Daddy's basement. So tell us Mikniks do you live with Mommy or not? 
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    Mikniks- I notice you conveniently skipped the question I asked about your living status. I nailed your boy Surfape right on the head knowing that his life was empty. No wife and no children because no woman would put up with his crap. I'm sure I was right about you living in Mommy and Daddy's basement. So tell us Mikniks do you live with Mommy or not? 
     
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    Posted: Jan. 3, 2012 - 5:07 AM ET #4097

    Sounds like the 4 stooges to me...lol or how bout the F troop?...lol

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    Sounds like the 4 stooges to me...lol or how bout the F troop?...lol

     
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    Quote Originally Posted by smoothd20:

    Appeal to motive, logical fallacy. (HAHAHA you don't understand what logical fallacies are either) Just because someone says atheist are smarter doesn't make it so. (It's not just what a person said though. He has numbers to back it up)  But in your world whatever you say is right because you know all the answers. You have been spoon fed a bunch of garbage and have eaten it up like a lap dog. Wow!  You're truly pathetic Mikniks. You need to grow a pair son and get from under Mommys dress.
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    Quote Originally Posted by smoothd20:

    Appeal to motive, logical fallacy. (HAHAHA you don't understand what logical fallacies are either) Just because someone says atheist are smarter doesn't make it so. (It's not just what a person said though. He has numbers to back it up)  But in your world whatever you say is right because you know all the answers. You have been spoon fed a bunch of garbage and have eaten it up like a lap dog. Wow!  You're truly pathetic Mikniks. You need to grow a pair son and get from under Mommys dress.
     
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    Posted: Jan. 3, 2012 - 5:12 AM ET #4099

    Quote Originally Posted by smoothd20:

    Mikniks- I notice you conveniently skipped the question I asked about your living status. I nailed your boy Surfape right on the head knowing that his life was empty. No wife and no children because no woman would put up with his crap. I'm sure I was right about you living in Mommy and Daddy's basement. So tell us Mikniks do you live with Mommy or not? 

    His mom and dad are really disappointed in him for abandoning the Lord.

    So they probably got him sleeping in the basement (in the pit)...lol

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    Quote Originally Posted by smoothd20:

    Mikniks- I notice you conveniently skipped the question I asked about your living status. I nailed your boy Surfape right on the head knowing that his life was empty. No wife and no children because no woman would put up with his crap. I'm sure I was right about you living in Mommy and Daddy's basement. So tell us Mikniks do you live with Mommy or not? 

    His mom and dad are really disappointed in him for abandoning the Lord.

    So they probably got him sleeping in the basement (in the pit)...lol

     
     
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    Quote Originally Posted by SirJohnDrake:

    That quote from Mikniks calling that mentally disturbed bunch "intellectuals is all we need to know about his sense of judgement. Sugarbear has the IQ of an amoeba. I'm still waiting for him to show me the post where he claims I made racial and anti women statements. Typical atheist make wild claims with no evidence or proof to back it up but want us to provide evidence of everything. 
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    Quote Originally Posted by SirJohnDrake:

    That quote from Mikniks calling that mentally disturbed bunch "intellectuals is all we need to know about his sense of judgement. Sugarbear has the IQ of an amoeba. I'm still waiting for him to show me the post where he claims I made racial and anti women statements. Typical atheist make wild claims with no evidence or proof to back it up but want us to provide evidence of everything. 
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