possibly join the army???
True bottom line I'm in his shoes with a judge that will reduce the conviction to misd in a year I'd run to the Army, Navy, Air Farce or Marines.....
True bottom line I'm in his shoes with a judge that will reduce the conviction to misd in a year I'd run to the Army, Navy, Air Farce or Marines.....
True bottom line I'm in his shoes with a judge that will reduce the conviction to misd in a year I'd run to the Army, Navy, Air Farce or Marines.....
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And on top of it - it makes these people desperate because they cant support themselves, so out of desperation they return to crime.
Most of them just want an opportunity.
Having been involved in thousands of hires over my career, here is the rub.
We had a guy who was convicted of a felony because he scewed an underage chick. It was 10 years ago and he has been clean since (went through counseling, etc.). Let's say a company hires him and he ends up sleeping with an employees 15 year old girl. And the employee finds out that the company hired this guy even though they knew about it. The company gets their ass sued to high heaven.
Unfortunately most companies won't touch people who have felonies related to violence, sexual misconduct or theft/dishonesty. It's too easy to get whacked for negligent hiring.
The many (people who just need a chance and likely will not be any sort of a problem) get screwed by the few (the folks who haven't changed their ways). A company has no way to know one from the other so they just ignore them all. It's a bummer, but I know why it happens.
And on top of it - it makes these people desperate because they cant support themselves, so out of desperation they return to crime.
Most of them just want an opportunity.
Having been involved in thousands of hires over my career, here is the rub.
We had a guy who was convicted of a felony because he scewed an underage chick. It was 10 years ago and he has been clean since (went through counseling, etc.). Let's say a company hires him and he ends up sleeping with an employees 15 year old girl. And the employee finds out that the company hired this guy even though they knew about it. The company gets their ass sued to high heaven.
Unfortunately most companies won't touch people who have felonies related to violence, sexual misconduct or theft/dishonesty. It's too easy to get whacked for negligent hiring.
The many (people who just need a chance and likely will not be any sort of a problem) get screwed by the few (the folks who haven't changed their ways). A company has no way to know one from the other so they just ignore them all. It's a bummer, but I know why it happens.
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Having been involved in thousands of hires over my career, here is the rub.
We had a guy who was convicted of a felony because he scewed an underage chick. It was 10 years ago and he has been clean since (went through counseling, etc.). Let's say a company hires him and he ends up sleeping with an employees 15 year old girl. And the employee finds out that the company hired this guy even though they knew about it. The company gets their ass sued to high heaven.
Unfortunately most companies won't touch people who have felonies related to violence, sexual misconduct or theft/dishonesty. It's too easy to get whacked for negligent hiring.
The many (people who just need a chance and likely will not be any sort of a problem) get screwed by the few (the folks who haven't changed their ways). A company has no way to know one from the other so they just ignore them all. It's a bummer, but I know why it happens.
Understood.
But there has to be a solution. You cant expect someone who cannot make a living to be anything but a total drain on the society that is rejecting them.
I dont know what the answer is, but to say there is no answer isnt acceptable either.
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Having been involved in thousands of hires over my career, here is the rub.
We had a guy who was convicted of a felony because he scewed an underage chick. It was 10 years ago and he has been clean since (went through counseling, etc.). Let's say a company hires him and he ends up sleeping with an employees 15 year old girl. And the employee finds out that the company hired this guy even though they knew about it. The company gets their ass sued to high heaven.
Unfortunately most companies won't touch people who have felonies related to violence, sexual misconduct or theft/dishonesty. It's too easy to get whacked for negligent hiring.
The many (people who just need a chance and likely will not be any sort of a problem) get screwed by the few (the folks who haven't changed their ways). A company has no way to know one from the other so they just ignore them all. It's a bummer, but I know why it happens.
Understood.
But there has to be a solution. You cant expect someone who cannot make a living to be anything but a total drain on the society that is rejecting them.
I dont know what the answer is, but to say there is no answer isnt acceptable either.
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Understood.
But there has to be a solution. You cant expect someone who cannot make a living to be anything but a total drain on the society that is rejecting them.
I dont know what the answer is, but to say there is no answer isnt acceptable either.
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Because he has few or no options, its realy quite simple...
And unless he has a friend or family member to give him a decent paying job, his only choice is to swallow his pride and start at the very bottom. Flip burgers, wash dishes, clean bathrooms. etc. etc.
As lowly as these jobs are, be a model employee and make an impression on someone who can help elevate or refer him for something better.
Climbing the ladder from the very bottom with a positive attitude and w/o feeling sorry for himself.
This is what society expects of a convicted felon. Pay the price and pull your're self up from the bottom...
Understood.
But there has to be a solution. You cant expect someone who cannot make a living to be anything but a total drain on the society that is rejecting them.
I dont know what the answer is, but to say there is no answer isnt acceptable either.
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Because he has few or no options, its realy quite simple...
And unless he has a friend or family member to give him a decent paying job, his only choice is to swallow his pride and start at the very bottom. Flip burgers, wash dishes, clean bathrooms. etc. etc.
As lowly as these jobs are, be a model employee and make an impression on someone who can help elevate or refer him for something better.
Climbing the ladder from the very bottom with a positive attitude and w/o feeling sorry for himself.
This is what society expects of a convicted felon. Pay the price and pull your're self up from the bottom...

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