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    Posted: Jul. 21, 2016 - 9:43 PM ET #26

    Exactly. Dylan Roof gets a nice double cheeseburger before a nice conversational ride to jail when he was armed and killed all those people in church. If he was black he would have been dead for sure. No questions asked. But that's just one incident where cops did the right think in not using deadly force on an unarmed, oops, an armed citizen. Color doesn't matter it's just one cop in one situation who did the right thing.
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    Exactly. Dylan Roof gets a nice double cheeseburger before a nice conversational ride to jail when he was armed and killed all those people in church. If he was black he would have been dead for sure. No questions asked. But that's just one incident where cops did the right think in not using deadly force on an unarmed, oops, an armed citizen. Color doesn't matter it's just one cop in one situation who did the right thing.
     
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    Posted: Jul. 21, 2016 - 9:50 PM ET #27

    Quote Originally Posted by searchwarrant:

    Cop should fired and charged. Just that simple



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    Quote Originally Posted by searchwarrant:

    Cop should fired and charged. Just that simple



     
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    Posted: Jul. 21, 2016 - 9:58 PM ET #28

    https://www.propublica.org/article/deadly-force-in-black-and-white
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    https://www.propublica.org/article/deadly-force-in-black-and-white
     
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    Posted: Jul. 21, 2016 - 10:06 PM ET #29

    Quote Originally Posted by ilsp2003:


    No need to wait
    the victim is black and you are already making up excuses for the cop
     he is stupid for shooting an unarmed black man 
    Stupid isnt an excuse, it a reason. Maybe he is racist.....However, if he really wanted to shoot a black man, dont you think there are better opportunities than in broad daylight, in the middle of the street with witnesses recording the events?

    Not sure how you can put all your eggs in the racist basket. Pretty sure white people get killed by white cops all the time. Is that racist to say because only BLM? If there was a WLM or a WET channel they would be racist right?

    Right? 

    "he is stupid for shooting an unarmed BLACK man"

    See how racist you are? Why does it matter that hes black? Shouldnt you be just as outraged regardless of color? We're all part of the HUMAN RACE.....

    Right?

    Stop being a racist and adding to the problems. 
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    Quote Originally Posted by ilsp2003:


    No need to wait
    the victim is black and you are already making up excuses for the cop
     he is stupid for shooting an unarmed black man 
    Stupid isnt an excuse, it a reason. Maybe he is racist.....However, if he really wanted to shoot a black man, dont you think there are better opportunities than in broad daylight, in the middle of the street with witnesses recording the events?

    Not sure how you can put all your eggs in the racist basket. Pretty sure white people get killed by white cops all the time. Is that racist to say because only BLM? If there was a WLM or a WET channel they would be racist right?

    Right? 

    "he is stupid for shooting an unarmed BLACK man"

    See how racist you are? Why does it matter that hes black? Shouldnt you be just as outraged regardless of color? We're all part of the HUMAN RACE.....

    Right?

    Stop being a racist and adding to the problems. 
     
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    Posted: Jul. 21, 2016 - 11:07 PM ET #30

    Quote Originally Posted by TRAIN69:

    Stupid isnt an excuse, it a reason. Maybe he is racist.....However, if he really wanted to shoot a black man, dont you think there are better opportunities than in broad daylight, in the middle of the street with witnesses recording the events?

    Not sure how you can put all your eggs in the racist basket. Pretty sure white people get killed by white cops all the time. Is that racist to say because only BLM? If there was a WLM or a WET channel they would be racist right?

    Right? 

    "he is stupid for shooting an unarmed BLACK man"

    See how racist you are? Why does it matter that hes black? Shouldnt you be just as outraged regardless of color? We're all part of the HUMAN RACE.....

    Right?

    Stop being a racist and adding to the problems. 


    Another hypocritical feedback


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    Quote Originally Posted by TRAIN69:

    Stupid isnt an excuse, it a reason. Maybe he is racist.....However, if he really wanted to shoot a black man, dont you think there are better opportunities than in broad daylight, in the middle of the street with witnesses recording the events?

    Not sure how you can put all your eggs in the racist basket. Pretty sure white people get killed by white cops all the time. Is that racist to say because only BLM? If there was a WLM or a WET channel they would be racist right?

    Right? 

    "he is stupid for shooting an unarmed BLACK man"

    See how racist you are? Why does it matter that hes black? Shouldnt you be just as outraged regardless of color? We're all part of the HUMAN RACE.....

    Right?

    Stop being a racist and adding to the problems. 


    Another hypocritical feedback


     
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    Posted: Jul. 21, 2016 - 11:15 PM ET #31

    Quote Originally Posted by TRAIN69:

    1 stupid cop.


    You ever watch Americas Funniest videos? Well, there are dumb people literally everywhere.....which sadly includes the police department.


    Agreed.....

    Except.....

    It doesn't cost the city or police dept. (read:taxpayers) Millions of dollars in "hush money" to the families when some idiot gets hit in the nuts on America's Funniest Home Videos.....

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    Quote Originally Posted by TRAIN69:

    1 stupid cop.


    You ever watch Americas Funniest videos? Well, there are dumb people literally everywhere.....which sadly includes the police department.


    Agreed.....

    Except.....

    It doesn't cost the city or police dept. (read:taxpayers) Millions of dollars in "hush money" to the families when some idiot gets hit in the nuts on America's Funniest Home Videos.....

     
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    Posted: Jul. 21, 2016 - 11:19 PM ET #32

    Quote Originally Posted by ilsp2003:



    Another hypocritical feedback


    Thats what I thought. Ya got nothin' kid.

    Nice try. 
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    Quote Originally Posted by ilsp2003:



    Another hypocritical feedback


    Thats what I thought. Ya got nothin' kid.

    Nice try. 
     
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    Posted: Jul. 21, 2016 - 11:22 PM ET #33

    Quote Originally Posted by GimmeMoneyNow:



    Agreed.....

    Except.....

    It doesn't cost the city or police dept. (read:taxpayers) Millions of dollars in "hush money" to the families when some idiot gets hit in the nuts on America's Funniest Home Videos.....

    Like I said,idiots are everywhere. Some are wearing blue uniforms and carrying guns. Some let their 5 year old have a wiffle bat bat and then stop paying attention for 2 seconds....



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    Quote Originally Posted by GimmeMoneyNow:



    Agreed.....

    Except.....

    It doesn't cost the city or police dept. (read:taxpayers) Millions of dollars in "hush money" to the families when some idiot gets hit in the nuts on America's Funniest Home Videos.....

    Like I said,idiots are everywhere. Some are wearing blue uniforms and carrying guns. Some let their 5 year old have a wiffle bat bat and then stop paying attention for 2 seconds....



     
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    Posted: Jul. 22, 2016 - 7:57 AM ET #34

    Quote Originally Posted by ilsp2003:



    You are the racist hypocrite

    what do crime stats have to do with the current event ?

    Because the victim is black you are already assume that the cop shot him due to crime stats

    Recent studies reveal that most school shooters are White males, with 97 percent being male and 79 percent White. Over the last three decades, 90 percent of high school or elementary school shootings were the result of White, often upper-middle class, perpetrators.

    Dylan Roof and the Kalamazoo Michigan shooters were arrested without incident.
    the former was also taken to a burger King after killing 9 people in a church. He was also armed.

    Years of degradation and horrors were unleashed upon black people in this country. Slavery was also accompanied by a program of negative propaganda designed to dehumanize  Black people in the eyes of the populace, make black people  less than humans,  undesirables,  threats and enemies.

    on his back, both hands up. what kind of a threat was he ?

    Again WTF do crime stats have to do with it ?


    "What do crime stats have to do with this event"?!?!?!?!?!? Really?
    If I need to explain this to you, then you are not worth the conversation.
    Just go ahead and play the race card, as do most liberals, and you will feel good about yourself.

    Your comments regarding white males shooting in schools, and years of black people being degraded are so far removed from the obvious point that I was making (at least to me and 99% of the other rational people) that our chat must now come to an end.

    Good day, my delusional friend 
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    Quote Originally Posted by ilsp2003:



    You are the racist hypocrite

    what do crime stats have to do with the current event ?

    Because the victim is black you are already assume that the cop shot him due to crime stats

    Recent studies reveal that most school shooters are White males, with 97 percent being male and 79 percent White. Over the last three decades, 90 percent of high school or elementary school shootings were the result of White, often upper-middle class, perpetrators.

    Dylan Roof and the Kalamazoo Michigan shooters were arrested without incident.
    the former was also taken to a burger King after killing 9 people in a church. He was also armed.

    Years of degradation and horrors were unleashed upon black people in this country. Slavery was also accompanied by a program of negative propaganda designed to dehumanize  Black people in the eyes of the populace, make black people  less than humans,  undesirables,  threats and enemies.

    on his back, both hands up. what kind of a threat was he ?

    Again WTF do crime stats have to do with it ?


    "What do crime stats have to do with this event"?!?!?!?!?!? Really?
    If I need to explain this to you, then you are not worth the conversation.
    Just go ahead and play the race card, as do most liberals, and you will feel good about yourself.

    Your comments regarding white males shooting in schools, and years of black people being degraded are so far removed from the obvious point that I was making (at least to me and 99% of the other rational people) that our chat must now come to an end.

    Good day, my delusional friend 
     
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    Posted: Jul. 22, 2016 - 8:56 AM ET #35


    What kind of a cop fires at an unarmed Caregaver in charge of an Autistic man under no cover and in the middle of the street???

    As the father of an emotionally challenged adult son, I find these police actions to be utterly despicable.

    What, exactly, is the training our young police officers endure before hitting the streets to protect our citizens?

    THIS IS LUDICROUS. 

     
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    What kind of a cop fires at an unarmed Caregaver in charge of an Autistic man under no cover and in the middle of the street???

    As the father of an emotionally challenged adult son, I find these police actions to be utterly despicable.

    What, exactly, is the training our young police officers endure before hitting the streets to protect our citizens?

    THIS IS LUDICROUS. 

     
     
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    Posted: Jul. 22, 2016 - 12:42 PM ET #36

    Horrible incident. Cops completely wrong here. That said why is it always blamed on race now? Are we to believe that if the therapist/patient were white this still couldn't happen? It's always a rush to race is the reason, it's just not true. This is an incompetence plain and simple.
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    Horrible incident. Cops completely wrong here. That said why is it always blamed on race now? Are we to believe that if the therapist/patient were white this still couldn't happen? It's always a rush to race is the reason, it's just not true. This is an incompetence plain and simple.
     
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    Posted: Jul. 22, 2016 - 1:16 PM ET #37

    Quote Originally Posted by TheGoldenGoose:


    What kind of a cop fires at an unarmed Caregaver in charge of an Autistic man under no cover and in the middle of the street???

    As the father of an emotionally challenged adult son, I find these police actions to be utterly despicable.

    What, exactly, is the training our young police officers endure before hitting the streets to protect our citizens?

    THIS IS LUDICROUS. 

     

    I do as well.

    Although our political opinions differ, I admire and respect you for taking care of your son the way you do.  Great stuff Goose.



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    Quote Originally Posted by TheGoldenGoose:


    What kind of a cop fires at an unarmed Caregaver in charge of an Autistic man under no cover and in the middle of the street???

    As the father of an emotionally challenged adult son, I find these police actions to be utterly despicable.

    What, exactly, is the training our young police officers endure before hitting the streets to protect our citizens?

    THIS IS LUDICROUS. 

     

    I do as well.

    Although our political opinions differ, I admire and respect you for taking care of your son the way you do.  Great stuff Goose.



     
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    Posted: Jul. 22, 2016 - 4:22 PM ET #38

    After reviewing the tape and reading the police officers signed statement I'm not surprised the level of training in Miami is obviously lacking.
    #1 If there is a gap in the tape it's because it was put there either the cop shut off camera before he shot or the department edited it.
    The officer confirms the text of what the victim said and did and when, this is not disputed.
    #2 The most telling is why were 3 shots fired at a sitting man who was making no move to evade he was sitting stationary.
    #3 If as the officer claims the intended target was not the therapist how in hell did he hit the guy laying prone on the ground with his hands in the air and how could they possible miss the larger intended target sitting not evading.
    #4 After the event why handcuff the guy they claim they did not intend to shoot and leave the guy they claim was the intended target  undetained..

    Smacks of pure bull crap and is an obviously a case of police profiling and total incompetence.
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    After reviewing the tape and reading the police officers signed statement I'm not surprised the level of training in Miami is obviously lacking.
    #1 If there is a gap in the tape it's because it was put there either the cop shut off camera before he shot or the department edited it.
    The officer confirms the text of what the victim said and did and when, this is not disputed.
    #2 The most telling is why were 3 shots fired at a sitting man who was making no move to evade he was sitting stationary.
    #3 If as the officer claims the intended target was not the therapist how in hell did he hit the guy laying prone on the ground with his hands in the air and how could they possible miss the larger intended target sitting not evading.
    #4 After the event why handcuff the guy they claim they did not intend to shoot and leave the guy they claim was the intended target  undetained..

    Smacks of pure bull crap and is an obviously a case of police profiling and total incompetence.
     
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    Posted: Jul. 22, 2016 - 4:24 PM ET #39

    In my opinion the only way Charles Kinsley could have been more compliant would have been to shoot himself before the police arrived. 
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    In my opinion the only way Charles Kinsley could have been more compliant would have been to shoot himself before the police arrived. 
     
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    Posted: Jul. 22, 2016 - 4:30 PM ET #40

    Quote Originally Posted by Bluefin:

    In my opinion the only way Charles Kinsley could have been more compliant would have been to shoot himself before the police arrived. 

    Funny line, and all so true 
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bluefin:

    In my opinion the only way Charles Kinsley could have been more compliant would have been to shoot himself before the police arrived. 

    Funny line, and all so true 
     
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    Posted: Jul. 22, 2016 - 5:20 PM ET #41

    Quote Originally Posted by Bluefin:

    In my opinion the only way Charles Kinsley could have been more compliant would have been to shoot himself before the police arrived. 
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bluefin:

    In my opinion the only way Charles Kinsley could have been more compliant would have been to shoot himself before the police arrived. 
     
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    Posted: Jul. 22, 2016 - 5:21 PM ET #42

    Racial bias has a lot to do with this situation. If you think Kinsley was white that he would have gotten shot you are delusional. Could it have happened of course. But it's 5x more likely for it NOT to have happened than the former
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    Racial bias has a lot to do with this situation. If you think Kinsley was white that he would have gotten shot you are delusional. Could it have happened of course. But it's 5x more likely for it NOT to have happened than the former
     
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    Posted: Jul. 22, 2016 - 5:26 PM ET #43

    Quote Originally Posted by TreyInventor:

    Racial bias has a lot to do with this situation. If you think Kinsley was white that he would have gotten shot you are delusional. Could it have happened of course. But it's 5x more likely for it NOT to have happened than the former

    Trey, I think that's a fair statement.

    I do not agree the reason for the racial bias is pure racism alone.
    IMO, there are a number of factors that lend itself to racial bias, but that's a different argument ... one which seems to be currently taking place in 20 different threads on the first page of the GD forum 
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    Quote Originally Posted by TreyInventor:

    Racial bias has a lot to do with this situation. If you think Kinsley was white that he would have gotten shot you are delusional. Could it have happened of course. But it's 5x more likely for it NOT to have happened than the former

    Trey, I think that's a fair statement.

    I do not agree the reason for the racial bias is pure racism alone.
    IMO, there are a number of factors that lend itself to racial bias, but that's a different argument ... one which seems to be currently taking place in 20 different threads on the first page of the GD forum 
     
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    Posted: Jul. 23, 2016 - 9:23 AM ET #44

    Quote Originally Posted by Slobbasaurus:


    I do as well.

    Although our political opinions differ, I admire and respect you for taking care of your son the way you do.  Great stuff Goose.






    We are probably more politically aligned than you realize.  My politics tend to be Libertarian.  I despise taxes, disapprove of our global militarism, am a gun owner for hunting and home defense and believe Government should leave the Constitution alone, ALL OF IT.

     
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    Quote Originally Posted by Slobbasaurus:


    I do as well.

    Although our political opinions differ, I admire and respect you for taking care of your son the way you do.  Great stuff Goose.






    We are probably more politically aligned than you realize.  My politics tend to be Libertarian.  I despise taxes, disapprove of our global militarism, am a gun owner for hunting and home defense and believe Government should leave the Constitution alone, ALL OF IT.

     
     
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    Posted: Jul. 23, 2016 - 10:18 AM ET #45

    Charles Kinsley hit the lottery, he'll walk away with a cool $10m (out of court settlement) compliments of the North Miami Police Department, and the city treasury...
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    Charles Kinsley hit the lottery, he'll walk away with a cool $10m (out of court settlement) compliments of the North Miami Police Department, and the city treasury...
     
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    Posted: Jul. 23, 2016 - 10:33 AM ET #46

    Quote Originally Posted by Bluefin:

    After reviewing the tape and reading the police officers signed statement I'm not surprised the level of training in Miami is obviously lacking.
    #1 If there is a gap in the tape it's because it was put there either the cop shut off camera before he shot or the department edited it.
    The officer confirms the text of what the victim said and did and when, this is not disputed.
    #2 The most telling is why were 3 shots fired at a sitting man who was making no move to evade he was sitting stationary.
    #3 If as the officer claims the intended target was not the therapist how in hell did he hit the guy laying prone on the ground with his hands in the air and how could they possible miss the larger intended target sitting not evading.
    #4 After the event why handcuff the guy they claim they did not intend to shoot and leave the guy they claim was the intended target  undetained..

    Smacks of pure bull crap and is an obviously a case of police profiling and total incompetence.

    the repetitious botom line tells the story: Kinsley, (to the cop who shot him) "why did you shoot me? I didn't do anything wrong"

    Cop: "I don't know" I just did.......

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bluefin:

    After reviewing the tape and reading the police officers signed statement I'm not surprised the level of training in Miami is obviously lacking.
    #1 If there is a gap in the tape it's because it was put there either the cop shut off camera before he shot or the department edited it.
    The officer confirms the text of what the victim said and did and when, this is not disputed.
    #2 The most telling is why were 3 shots fired at a sitting man who was making no move to evade he was sitting stationary.
    #3 If as the officer claims the intended target was not the therapist how in hell did he hit the guy laying prone on the ground with his hands in the air and how could they possible miss the larger intended target sitting not evading.
    #4 After the event why handcuff the guy they claim they did not intend to shoot and leave the guy they claim was the intended target  undetained..

    Smacks of pure bull crap and is an obviously a case of police profiling and total incompetence.

    the repetitious botom line tells the story: Kinsley, (to the cop who shot him) "why did you shoot me? I didn't do anything wrong"

    Cop: "I don't know" I just did.......

     
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    Posted: Jul. 23, 2016 - 10:39 AM ET #47

    Quote Originally Posted by Killer_B:

    Horrible incident. Cops completely wrong here. That said why is it always blamed on race now? Are we to believe that if the therapist/patient were white this still couldn't happen? It's always a rush to race is the reason, it's just not true. This is an incompetence plain and simple.
    they already did, remember the white 19 year old who was shot twice while laying on the ground (unarmed) with his hands raised?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Killer_B:

    Horrible incident. Cops completely wrong here. That said why is it always blamed on race now? Are we to believe that if the therapist/patient were white this still couldn't happen? It's always a rush to race is the reason, it's just not true. This is an incompetence plain and simple.
    they already did, remember the white 19 year old who was shot twice while laying on the ground (unarmed) with his hands raised?
     
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    Posted: Jul. 23, 2016 - 10:52 AM ET #48

    Quote Originally Posted by TreyInventor:

    Racial bias has a lot to do with this situation. If you think Kinsley was white that he would have gotten shot you are delusional. Could it have happened of course. But it's 5x more likely for it NOT to have happened than the former
    I agree wholeheartedly, make that 10x on my behalf.
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    Quote Originally Posted by TreyInventor:

    Racial bias has a lot to do with this situation. If you think Kinsley was white that he would have gotten shot you are delusional. Could it have happened of course. But it's 5x more likely for it NOT to have happened than the former
    I agree wholeheartedly, make that 10x on my behalf.
     
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    Posted: Jul. 23, 2016 - 11:04 AM ET #49

    Quote Originally Posted by searchwarrant:

    Cop should fired and charged. Just that simple
    fired, and charged? was this a military operation? were they dealing with a terrorist situation?  we're talking about an un-armed mental health therapist, and his patient...

    whatever....to each his own

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    Quote Originally Posted by searchwarrant:

    Cop should fired and charged. Just that simple
    fired, and charged? was this a military operation? were they dealing with a terrorist situation?  we're talking about an un-armed mental health therapist, and his patient...

    whatever....to each his own

     
     
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    Posted: Jul. 23, 2016 - 4:24 PM ET #50

    Quote Originally Posted by sports_Network:

    fired, and charged? was this a military operation? were they dealing with a terrorist situation?  we're talking about an un-armed mental health therapist, and his patient...

    whatever....to each his own

    I believe what he meant to say is, "the cop should be fired and charged".

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    Quote Originally Posted by sports_Network:

    fired, and charged? was this a military operation? were they dealing with a terrorist situation?  we're talking about an un-armed mental health therapist, and his patient...

    whatever....to each his own

    I believe what he meant to say is, "the cop should be fired and charged".

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