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    SarasotaSlim
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    Posted: Jun. 23, 2015 - 12:21 AM ET #101

    Now ,the political want to take down the South Carolina flag ...
    It has been estimated that over 65,000 Southern blacks were in the Confederate ranks.
     
    "When you eliminate the black Confederate soldier, you’ve eliminated the a part of the history of the South.” Dr. Leonard Haynes, an African-American professor at Southern University........

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    Now ,the political want to take down the South Carolina flag ...
    It has been estimated that over 65,000 Southern blacks were in the Confederate ranks.
     
    "When you eliminate the black Confederate soldier, you’ve eliminated the a part of the history of the South.” Dr. Leonard Haynes, an African-American professor at Southern University........

     
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    Posted: Jun. 23, 2015 - 12:53 AM ET #102

    To the gun grabbers......

    The first amendment is the right to free speech and the 2nd amendment is the right to bear arms.

    Combining the two gives me the right to blow you away if I don't like what you're saying!

    Hurrah for the Bonnie Blue Flag!

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    To the gun grabbers......

    The first amendment is the right to free speech and the 2nd amendment is the right to bear arms.

    Combining the two gives me the right to blow you away if I don't like what you're saying!

    Hurrah for the Bonnie Blue Flag!

     
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    Posted: Jun. 23, 2015 - 12:40 PM ET #103

    Quote Originally Posted by bettingforfun:

    253 million vehicles on the roads today.  Give or take a few million.
    1.3 million people die in car crashes each year.  Give or take a few.

    300 million guns in the US.  Give or take a few million.
    30 thousand gun deaths each year.  Give or take a few thousand.

    Obama needs to start a federal program where the government buys back vehicles we want to get rid of.  If people would quit driving so much we could save lives.  Just think of it, we could actually save about 1.33 million people a year by getting rid of guns and automobiles.  After this we can tackle ladders, swimming pools, toys, plastic bags, drugs, railroads etc.... etc.....etc.....



    I never really comment on articles like this on covers because its so pointless, no one cares about anything except their own opinion.

    People like this poster above just leave me shaking my head though. In his own mind he thinks he is being funny and witty while also proving his point. When in reality he is a clueless idiot who can't think past his own selfishness. Hey man, as long as your needs are fulfilled and you get to carry a gun, who cares how many innocent people have to die because of it. As long as you are happy and get what you want, who the hell cares about other people. You aren't funny, you aren't witty, you are just plain ignorant.

    How anyone can think there is not a gun problem in this country is MIND BLOWING to me. Sure, you might be a responsible gun owner but guess what. There are 319 million other people out there who might just be nuts and can get their hands on guns way too easy....How would this kid have killed 9 people without a gun? How?

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    Quote Originally Posted by bettingforfun:

    253 million vehicles on the roads today.  Give or take a few million.
    1.3 million people die in car crashes each year.  Give or take a few.

    300 million guns in the US.  Give or take a few million.
    30 thousand gun deaths each year.  Give or take a few thousand.

    Obama needs to start a federal program where the government buys back vehicles we want to get rid of.  If people would quit driving so much we could save lives.  Just think of it, we could actually save about 1.33 million people a year by getting rid of guns and automobiles.  After this we can tackle ladders, swimming pools, toys, plastic bags, drugs, railroads etc.... etc.....etc.....



    I never really comment on articles like this on covers because its so pointless, no one cares about anything except their own opinion.

    People like this poster above just leave me shaking my head though. In his own mind he thinks he is being funny and witty while also proving his point. When in reality he is a clueless idiot who can't think past his own selfishness. Hey man, as long as your needs are fulfilled and you get to carry a gun, who cares how many innocent people have to die because of it. As long as you are happy and get what you want, who the hell cares about other people. You aren't funny, you aren't witty, you are just plain ignorant.

    How anyone can think there is not a gun problem in this country is MIND BLOWING to me. Sure, you might be a responsible gun owner but guess what. There are 319 million other people out there who might just be nuts and can get their hands on guns way too easy....How would this kid have killed 9 people without a gun? How?

     
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    Posted: Jun. 23, 2015 - 12:58 PM ET #104

    Quote Originally Posted by earthWake:

    I never really comment on articles like this on covers because its so pointless, no one cares about anything except their own opinion.

    People like this poster above just leave me shaking my head though. In his own mind he thinks he is being funny and witty while also proving his point. When in reality he is a clueless idiot who can't think past his own selfishness. Hey man, as long as your needs are fulfilled and you get to carry a gun, who cares how many innocent people have to die because of it. As long as you are happy and get what you want, who the hell cares about other people. You aren't funny, you aren't witty, you are just plain ignorant.

    How anyone can think there is not a gun problem in this country is MIND BLOWING to me. Sure, you might be a responsible gun owner but guess what. There are 319 million other people out there who might just be nuts and can get their hands on guns way too easy....How would this kid have killed 9 people without a gun? How?

    For one ...a  suicide bomb vest would have gotten the evil deed done.. 

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    Quote Originally Posted by earthWake:

    I never really comment on articles like this on covers because its so pointless, no one cares about anything except their own opinion.

    People like this poster above just leave me shaking my head though. In his own mind he thinks he is being funny and witty while also proving his point. When in reality he is a clueless idiot who can't think past his own selfishness. Hey man, as long as your needs are fulfilled and you get to carry a gun, who cares how many innocent people have to die because of it. As long as you are happy and get what you want, who the hell cares about other people. You aren't funny, you aren't witty, you are just plain ignorant.

    How anyone can think there is not a gun problem in this country is MIND BLOWING to me. Sure, you might be a responsible gun owner but guess what. There are 319 million other people out there who might just be nuts and can get their hands on guns way too easy....How would this kid have killed 9 people without a gun? How?

    For one ...a  suicide bomb vest would have gotten the evil deed done.. 

     
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    Posted: Jun. 23, 2015 - 1:33 PM ET #105

    Quote Originally Posted by earthWake:

    I never really comment on articles like this on covers because its so pointless, no one cares about anything except their own opinion.

    People like this poster above just leave me shaking my head though. In his own mind he thinks he is being funny and witty while also proving his point. When in reality he is a clueless idiot who can't think past his own selfishness. Hey man, as long as your needs are fulfilled and you get to carry a gun, who cares how many innocent people have to die because of it. As long as you are happy and get what you want, who the hell cares about other people. You aren't funny, you aren't witty, you are just plain ignorant.

    How anyone can think there is not a gun problem in this country is MIND BLOWING to me. Sure, you might be a responsible gun owner but guess what. There are 319 million other people out there who might just be nuts and can get their hands on guns way too easy....How would this kid have killed 9 people without a gun? How?

    Yes. I can see why you usually don't comment on these types of things. 
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    Quote Originally Posted by earthWake:

    I never really comment on articles like this on covers because its so pointless, no one cares about anything except their own opinion.

    People like this poster above just leave me shaking my head though. In his own mind he thinks he is being funny and witty while also proving his point. When in reality he is a clueless idiot who can't think past his own selfishness. Hey man, as long as your needs are fulfilled and you get to carry a gun, who cares how many innocent people have to die because of it. As long as you are happy and get what you want, who the hell cares about other people. You aren't funny, you aren't witty, you are just plain ignorant.

    How anyone can think there is not a gun problem in this country is MIND BLOWING to me. Sure, you might be a responsible gun owner but guess what. There are 319 million other people out there who might just be nuts and can get their hands on guns way too easy....How would this kid have killed 9 people without a gun? How?

    Yes. I can see why you usually don't comment on these types of things. 
     
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    Posted: Jun. 23, 2015 - 1:36 PM ET #106

    Quote Originally Posted by Slovak:

    Just read that there have been over 200 people killed in the United States so far this year from mass shootings.
    Yes. They also say mass shooting peaked around the late 1920s.  Now we have Internet and 24 hour cable news and an agenda or two. Nothing new here.  Same with shark attacks and tornadoes, etc., etc. 
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    Quote Originally Posted by Slovak:

    Just read that there have been over 200 people killed in the United States so far this year from mass shootings.
    Yes. They also say mass shooting peaked around the late 1920s.  Now we have Internet and 24 hour cable news and an agenda or two. Nothing new here.  Same with shark attacks and tornadoes, etc., etc. 
     
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    Posted: Jun. 23, 2015 - 8:43 PM ET #107

    Quote Originally Posted by SarasotaSlim:

    Now ,the political want to take down the South Carolina flag ...
    It has been estimated that over 65,000 Southern blacks were in the Confederate ranks.
     
    "When you eliminate the black Confederate soldier, you’ve eliminated the a part of the history of the South.” Dr. Leonard Haynes, an African-American professor at Southern University........

    Thats not true, The president of the Confederate states Jefferson Davis did not blacks to officially become mustered into the confederate army during the civil war. They were only allowed to aide the confederates as slaves, because they were not free. You can read about this in Jefferson Davis's book, " The Rise & Fall of the Confederacy"
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    Quote Originally Posted by SarasotaSlim:

    Now ,the political want to take down the South Carolina flag ...
    It has been estimated that over 65,000 Southern blacks were in the Confederate ranks.
     
    "When you eliminate the black Confederate soldier, you’ve eliminated the a part of the history of the South.” Dr. Leonard Haynes, an African-American professor at Southern University........

    Thats not true, The president of the Confederate states Jefferson Davis did not blacks to officially become mustered into the confederate army during the civil war. They were only allowed to aide the confederates as slaves, because they were not free. You can read about this in Jefferson Davis's book, " The Rise & Fall of the Confederacy"
     
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    Posted: Jun. 23, 2015 - 8:56 PM ET #108

    The President of the Confederate States Jefferson Davis said," you cannot transform the negro slave into anything one-tenth as useful or as good as what slavery enables them to be." A lot of the Bigots in these forums on Covers would love for Jefferson Davis to be President of these United States.
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    The President of the Confederate States Jefferson Davis said," you cannot transform the negro slave into anything one-tenth as useful or as good as what slavery enables them to be." A lot of the Bigots in these forums on Covers would love for Jefferson Davis to be President of these United States.
     
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    Posted: Jun. 23, 2015 - 10:10 PM ET #109

    Quote Originally Posted by earthWake:

    I never really comment on articles like this on covers because its so pointless, no one cares about anything except their own opinion.

    People like this poster above just leave me shaking my head though. In his own mind he thinks he is being funny and witty while also proving his point. When in reality he is a clueless idiot who can't think past his own selfishness. Hey man, as long as your needs are fulfilled and you get to carry a gun, who cares how many innocent people have to die because of it. As long as you are happy and get what you want, who the hell cares about other people. You aren't funny, you aren't witty, you are just plain ignorant.

    How anyone can think there is not a gun problem in this country is MIND BLOWING to me. Sure, you might be a responsible gun owner but guess what. There are 319 million other people out there who might just be nuts and can get their hands on guns way too easy....How would this kid have killed 9 people without a gun? How?


    Have you ever heard the name Timothy McVeigh?  Probably not as I can see you have a limited grasp on the news.  I've got plenty more if you have trouble finding them.

    In all of your babbling you offered no solution to "the gun problem" (your words not mine) so I must assume you don't have one.  It's sad to see little trolls like yourself trying to dictate to the rest of us what we should believe or not believe.  I believe in law abiding citizens the right to own firearms.  The forefathers had enough sense to make it the 2nd Amendment something you obviously lack.  I also believe in the death penalty more than anyone I know.  I believe if you commit murder with a firearm you should be put to death.  One appeal and then you are toast.  I think this guy should be put to death in the next 6 months and be done with it.  You probably believe counseling will do the trick.   

    So are you saying if we only had say 150 million guns those nine people would still be alive?  How many do we take away and from who?  What do we do with crazy people?  How do we stop them from obtaining guns?  Do you believe Rosie O'Donnell should have bodyguards that carry guns but then have her rail against them? Should anybody that is against guns be allowed to own one?  What is you criteria for owning a gun?  How many should people be able to own?

    I've got more questions for you after you answer these.  If you can't answer then you should leave the debating to the big boys and find another thread.  Try the fantasy section, it suits you well.
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    Quote Originally Posted by earthWake:

    I never really comment on articles like this on covers because its so pointless, no one cares about anything except their own opinion.

    People like this poster above just leave me shaking my head though. In his own mind he thinks he is being funny and witty while also proving his point. When in reality he is a clueless idiot who can't think past his own selfishness. Hey man, as long as your needs are fulfilled and you get to carry a gun, who cares how many innocent people have to die because of it. As long as you are happy and get what you want, who the hell cares about other people. You aren't funny, you aren't witty, you are just plain ignorant.

    How anyone can think there is not a gun problem in this country is MIND BLOWING to me. Sure, you might be a responsible gun owner but guess what. There are 319 million other people out there who might just be nuts and can get their hands on guns way too easy....How would this kid have killed 9 people without a gun? How?


    Have you ever heard the name Timothy McVeigh?  Probably not as I can see you have a limited grasp on the news.  I've got plenty more if you have trouble finding them.

    In all of your babbling you offered no solution to "the gun problem" (your words not mine) so I must assume you don't have one.  It's sad to see little trolls like yourself trying to dictate to the rest of us what we should believe or not believe.  I believe in law abiding citizens the right to own firearms.  The forefathers had enough sense to make it the 2nd Amendment something you obviously lack.  I also believe in the death penalty more than anyone I know.  I believe if you commit murder with a firearm you should be put to death.  One appeal and then you are toast.  I think this guy should be put to death in the next 6 months and be done with it.  You probably believe counseling will do the trick.   

    So are you saying if we only had say 150 million guns those nine people would still be alive?  How many do we take away and from who?  What do we do with crazy people?  How do we stop them from obtaining guns?  Do you believe Rosie O'Donnell should have bodyguards that carry guns but then have her rail against them? Should anybody that is against guns be allowed to own one?  What is you criteria for owning a gun?  How many should people be able to own?

    I've got more questions for you after you answer these.  If you can't answer then you should leave the debating to the big boys and find another thread.  Try the fantasy section, it suits you well.
     
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    Posted: Jun. 23, 2015 - 10:20 PM ET #110

    Good to see  your country doing something about your gun laws. How many more mass shootings will it take to do the right thing?
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    Good to see  your country doing something about your gun laws. How many more mass shootings will it take to do the right thing?
     
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    Posted: Jun. 23, 2015 - 11:11 PM ET #111

    Quote Originally Posted by No_Contest:

    The President of the Confederate States Jefferson Davis said," you cannot transform the negro slave into anything one-tenth as useful or as good as what slavery enables them to be." A lot of the Bigots in these forums on Covers would love for Jefferson Davis to be President of these United States.

     The Confederate monument at Arlington National Cemetery is perhaps the first monument honoring a black American soldier.....a black Confederate soldier is depicted marching in rank with white Confederate soldiers..

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    Quote Originally Posted by No_Contest:

    The President of the Confederate States Jefferson Davis said," you cannot transform the negro slave into anything one-tenth as useful or as good as what slavery enables them to be." A lot of the Bigots in these forums on Covers would love for Jefferson Davis to be President of these United States.

     The Confederate monument at Arlington National Cemetery is perhaps the first monument honoring a black American soldier.....a black Confederate soldier is depicted marching in rank with white Confederate soldiers..

     
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    People crack me up. So your argument for guns is..."Well, bombs can kill people too."

    So by that logic, its okay that 30,000 people are killed each year by guns because Timothy McVeigh blew up 168 people 20 years ago.

    There is that good old solid Covers logic I was waiting for. I don't have all the answers, but if you think Gun Laws are FINE in this country then I genuinely think you are a straight up IDIOT.

    Recently, where I'm from a kid went on what he wanted to be a killing rampage in his school with a KNIFE, guess how many people were killed? ZERO....Hmm, I wonder how many would have died if he used a gun..(Someone should have given him a gun though, because ya know Timothy McVeigh used a truck bomb 20 years ago, and making bombs are just so easy. )

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    People crack me up. So your argument for guns is..."Well, bombs can kill people too."

    So by that logic, its okay that 30,000 people are killed each year by guns because Timothy McVeigh blew up 168 people 20 years ago.

    There is that good old solid Covers logic I was waiting for. I don't have all the answers, but if you think Gun Laws are FINE in this country then I genuinely think you are a straight up IDIOT.

    Recently, where I'm from a kid went on what he wanted to be a killing rampage in his school with a KNIFE, guess how many people were killed? ZERO....Hmm, I wonder how many would have died if he used a gun..(Someone should have given him a gun though, because ya know Timothy McVeigh used a truck bomb 20 years ago, and making bombs are just so easy. )

     
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    Posted: Jun. 30, 2015 - 7:04 PM ET #113

    Quote Originally Posted by isport:

    Good to see  your country doing something about your gun laws. How many more mass shootings will it take to do the right thing?

    Didn't you know this is 'MERICA!!!!!!!

    People don't care about what is good for the masses, just what is good for their own selfish interest.

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    Quote Originally Posted by isport:

    Good to see  your country doing something about your gun laws. How many more mass shootings will it take to do the right thing?

    Didn't you know this is 'MERICA!!!!!!!

    People don't care about what is good for the masses, just what is good for their own selfish interest.

     
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    Quote Originally Posted by earthWake:

    People crack me up. So your argument for guns is..."Well, bombs can kill people too." 

    No ,,that's taken out of context,,the answer to the question....(How would this kid have killed 9 people without a gun? How? )..  that was asked was :

    A.) 'For one ...a  suicide bomb vest would have gotten the evil deed done..'.   you asked How? ..and that is just one way to how...not an argument just a fact ..

    ..and as far as your little knife analogy goes..just last year .....knife-wielding attackers killed 29 people and injured 143 in a frenzied attack at a Chinese railway station...

    "Caution"   Pic's of the damage that the knifes did could be quite disturbing ..open at your own risk.

    https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2570996/At-27-dead-109-injured-gang-knife-wielding-men-attack-train-station-China.html

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    Quote Originally Posted by earthWake:

    People crack me up. So your argument for guns is..."Well, bombs can kill people too." 

    No ,,that's taken out of context,,the answer to the question....(How would this kid have killed 9 people without a gun? How? )..  that was asked was :

    A.) 'For one ...a  suicide bomb vest would have gotten the evil deed done..'.   you asked How? ..and that is just one way to how...not an argument just a fact ..

    ..and as far as your little knife analogy goes..just last year .....knife-wielding attackers killed 29 people and injured 143 in a frenzied attack at a Chinese railway station...

    "Caution"   Pic's of the damage that the knifes did could be quite disturbing ..open at your own risk.

    https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2570996/At-27-dead-109-injured-gang-knife-wielding-men-attack-train-station-China.html

     
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    Quote Originally Posted by SarasotaSlim:

    Armed Churchgoer prevents slaughter : 

    https://beforeitsnews.com/survival/2013/02/armed-churchgoer-prevents-slaughter-2461958.html


    This is kind of intriguing....   Do they have special church guns, or "Sunday Guns" that look nicer to match their church clothes?   Is there a cross on the handle?   Does the priest bless the bullets?  
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    Quote Originally Posted by SarasotaSlim:

    Armed Churchgoer prevents slaughter : 

    https://beforeitsnews.com/survival/2013/02/armed-churchgoer-prevents-slaughter-2461958.html


    This is kind of intriguing....   Do they have special church guns, or "Sunday Guns" that look nicer to match their church clothes?   Is there a cross on the handle?   Does the priest bless the bullets?  
     
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    Settle down Earthquack.

    You misquoted me as do many far left wackos.  I said " I believe in law abiding citizens the right to own firearms".

    1.3 million people are killed each year in traffic accidents.  By your logic we should all quit driving.  Should we all stop driving because people decide to drink, text, eat, not pay attention and fall asleep while driving?  I would think that since 30k killed by guns is to many then the 1.3 million killed in car accidents should send you over the top.

    Once again I didn't say one way or the other what I thought about gun laws in this country.  Please refer to my quote.  One thing I can tell you though is that taking all the guns away from people so only the government has them isn't the answer.  

    Ask the people that ran in the Boston Marathon how they feel about bombs.

    There are millions of abortions each year in this country.  Many people believe that is killing.  Should we all stop having sex?

    Let me put it in simple terms for your simple mind.  You have a lot better chance at being killed in a car accident than you do from being shot by a gun.  That's a FACT!
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    Settle down Earthquack.

    You misquoted me as do many far left wackos.  I said " I believe in law abiding citizens the right to own firearms".

    1.3 million people are killed each year in traffic accidents.  By your logic we should all quit driving.  Should we all stop driving because people decide to drink, text, eat, not pay attention and fall asleep while driving?  I would think that since 30k killed by guns is to many then the 1.3 million killed in car accidents should send you over the top.

    Once again I didn't say one way or the other what I thought about gun laws in this country.  Please refer to my quote.  One thing I can tell you though is that taking all the guns away from people so only the government has them isn't the answer.  

    Ask the people that ran in the Boston Marathon how they feel about bombs.

    There are millions of abortions each year in this country.  Many people believe that is killing.  Should we all stop having sex?

    Let me put it in simple terms for your simple mind.  You have a lot better chance at being killed in a car accident than you do from being shot by a gun.  That's a FACT!
     
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    Posted: Jul. 1, 2015 - 12:41 AM ET #117

    Quote Originally Posted by BWS77:


    This is kind of intriguing....   Do they have special church guns, or "Sunday Guns" that look nicer to match their church clothes?   Is there a cross on the handle?   Does the priest bless the bullets?  


    If you had went to the link ..you can see the guy in the pew with a Sunday Morning Special .........
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    Quote Originally Posted by BWS77:


    This is kind of intriguing....   Do they have special church guns, or "Sunday Guns" that look nicer to match their church clothes?   Is there a cross on the handle?   Does the priest bless the bullets?  


    If you had went to the link ..you can see the guy in the pew with a Sunday Morning Special .........
     
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    Quote Originally Posted by earthWake:

    People crack me up. So your argument for guns is..."Well, bombs can kill people too."

    So by that logic, its okay that 30,000 people are killed each year by guns because Timothy McVeigh blew up 168 people 20 years ago.

    There is that good old solid Covers logic I was waiting for. I don't have all the answers, but if you think Gun Laws are FINE in this country then I genuinely think you are a straight up IDIOT.

    Recently, where I'm from a kid went on what he wanted to be a killing rampage in his school with a KNIFE, guess how many people were killed? ZERO....Hmm, I wonder how many would have died if he used a gun..(Someone should have given him a gun though, because ya know Timothy McVeigh used a truck bomb 20 years ago, and making bombs are just so easy. )



    My guess is 90% of gun deaths are criminals who illegally obtained their guns so making it harder for law abiding citizens to own a firearm won't do a damn thing.

    The point of mentioning Timothy McVeigh was to prove if you want to kill someone you will find a way (Bath Township, OKC, 9/11, suicide bombers every day in the Middle East, etc)

    I've noticed that whena tragedy occurs the gun grabbers alter their argument to fit their agenda. For instance...

    After Sandy Hook, because the killer used a rifle, the gun grabbers were yelling "Assault weapons" need to be banned. And they stressed only assault weapons.

    Now that the killer in Charleston used a pistol the gun grabbers are back...but this time they want all firearms banned, which is what I said years ago after the Sandy Hook tragedy. Banning 'assault weapons" are just baby steps.
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    Quote Originally Posted by earthWake:

    People crack me up. So your argument for guns is..."Well, bombs can kill people too."

    So by that logic, its okay that 30,000 people are killed each year by guns because Timothy McVeigh blew up 168 people 20 years ago.

    There is that good old solid Covers logic I was waiting for. I don't have all the answers, but if you think Gun Laws are FINE in this country then I genuinely think you are a straight up IDIOT.

    Recently, where I'm from a kid went on what he wanted to be a killing rampage in his school with a KNIFE, guess how many people were killed? ZERO....Hmm, I wonder how many would have died if he used a gun..(Someone should have given him a gun though, because ya know Timothy McVeigh used a truck bomb 20 years ago, and making bombs are just so easy. )



    My guess is 90% of gun deaths are criminals who illegally obtained their guns so making it harder for law abiding citizens to own a firearm won't do a damn thing.

    The point of mentioning Timothy McVeigh was to prove if you want to kill someone you will find a way (Bath Township, OKC, 9/11, suicide bombers every day in the Middle East, etc)

    I've noticed that whena tragedy occurs the gun grabbers alter their argument to fit their agenda. For instance...

    After Sandy Hook, because the killer used a rifle, the gun grabbers were yelling "Assault weapons" need to be banned. And they stressed only assault weapons.

    Now that the killer in Charleston used a pistol the gun grabbers are back...but this time they want all firearms banned, which is what I said years ago after the Sandy Hook tragedy. Banning 'assault weapons" are just baby steps.
     
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    Quote Originally Posted by canovsp:

    Saw this today and it reminds me of some of the people here on Covers.

    Salon headline after the Boston Marathon Bombing
    "Muslims don't Need to Apologize for the Tsarnaevs"

    Salon headline after the Charleston shootings
    "White America Must Answer for the Charleston Church Massacre"

    Why...because of The Crusades, and colonialism, and social justice, and all that.

    https://chicksontheright.com/blog/item/29516-holy-hypocrisy-do-you-see-a-problem-with-these-two-salon-headlines

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    Quote Originally Posted by canovsp:

    Saw this today and it reminds me of some of the people here on Covers.

    Salon headline after the Boston Marathon Bombing
    "Muslims don't Need to Apologize for the Tsarnaevs"

    Salon headline after the Charleston shootings
    "White America Must Answer for the Charleston Church Massacre"

    Why...because of The Crusades, and colonialism, and social justice, and all that.

    https://chicksontheright.com/blog/item/29516-holy-hypocrisy-do-you-see-a-problem-with-these-two-salon-headlines

     
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    Quote Originally Posted by SarasotaSlim:

    No ,,that's taken out of context,,the answer to the question....(How would this kid have killed 9 people without a gun? How? )..  that was asked was :

    A.) 'For one ...a  suicide bomb vest would have gotten the evil deed done..'.   you asked How? ..and that is just one way to how...not an argument just a fact ..

    ..and as far as your little knife analogy goes..just last year .....knife-wielding attackers killed 29 people and injured 143 in a frenzied attack at a Chinese railway station...

    "Caution"   Pic's of the damage that the knifes did could be quite disturbing ..open at your own risk.

    https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2570996/At-27-dead-109-injured-gang-knife-wielding-men-attack-train-station-China.html


    Wasn't the biggest "mass murder" in American history done with a couple of boxcutters and a few planes? 
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    Quote Originally Posted by SarasotaSlim:

    No ,,that's taken out of context,,the answer to the question....(How would this kid have killed 9 people without a gun? How? )..  that was asked was :

    A.) 'For one ...a  suicide bomb vest would have gotten the evil deed done..'.   you asked How? ..and that is just one way to how...not an argument just a fact ..

    ..and as far as your little knife analogy goes..just last year .....knife-wielding attackers killed 29 people and injured 143 in a frenzied attack at a Chinese railway station...

    "Caution"   Pic's of the damage that the knifes did could be quite disturbing ..open at your own risk.

    https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2570996/At-27-dead-109-injured-gang-knife-wielding-men-attack-train-station-China.html


    Wasn't the biggest "mass murder" in American history done with a couple of boxcutters and a few planes? 
     
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    Quote Originally Posted by I_Need_A_Detox:


    The beauty of the internet is that little white men like you can say what they really think without any repercussions. 
    The irony here is rich.
    We should stop eating bananas.
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    Quote Originally Posted by I_Need_A_Detox:


    The beauty of the internet is that little white men like you can say what they really think without any repercussions. 
    The irony here is rich.
     
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    Quote Originally Posted by benhogan76:

    The irony here is rich.


    I would say that "it's like the pot calling the kettle black", but then all he would see is that last word and him and Scalabrine would just start screaming that I'm a racist bigot.....
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    Quote Originally Posted by benhogan76:

    The irony here is rich.


    I would say that "it's like the pot calling the kettle black", but then all he would see is that last word and him and Scalabrine would just start screaming that I'm a racist bigot.....
     
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    Posted: Jul. 1, 2015 - 6:15 PM ET #123

    Quote Originally Posted by bettingforfun:

    Settle down Earthquack.

    You misquoted me as do many far left wackos.  I said " I believe in law abiding citizens the right to own firearms".

    1.3 million people are killed each year in traffic accidents.  By your logic we should all quit driving.  Should we all stop driving because people decide to drink, text, eat, not pay attention and fall asleep while driving?  I would think that since 30k killed by guns is to many then the 1.3 million killed in car accidents should send you over the top.

    Once again I didn't say one way or the other what I thought about gun laws in this country.  Please refer to my quote.  One thing I can tell you though is that taking all the guns away from people so only the government has them isn't the answer.  

    Ask the people that ran in the Boston Marathon how they feel about bombs.

    There are millions of abortions each year in this country.  Many people believe that is killing.  Should we all stop having sex?

    Let me put it in simple terms for your simple mind.  You have a lot better chance at being killed in a car accident than you do from being shot by a gun.  That's a FACT!

    I don't believe in politics, I believe in common sense. Get some.

    Let me put this in simple terms for your simple mind. We need cars. They are a vital part to living a normal life. It would be almost impossible for most people to get from point A to point B.

    If we took away cars, life would be a lot tougher and less convenient. We NEED cars every single day of our lives. We don't need guns. The only thing that would happen if your gun was taken away, you would no longer feel like John Wayne.

    Again, I'll use my common sense to say that it is not fair to responsible gun owners that a bunch of maniacs ruin it for them but that's life. INNOCENT people dying is much more important that your need to carry a gun and feel like John Wayne.

    My original point was the gun laws in this country are a JOKE. If you disagree, you are an idiot. I don't have the answers but something must be done. People make $100,000 + / a year to be smart enough to make decisions like this. Pay me all that money and I will dedicate my life to finding the answers.

    Done with this thread.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bettingforfun:

    Settle down Earthquack.

    You misquoted me as do many far left wackos.  I said " I believe in law abiding citizens the right to own firearms".

    1.3 million people are killed each year in traffic accidents.  By your logic we should all quit driving.  Should we all stop driving because people decide to drink, text, eat, not pay attention and fall asleep while driving?  I would think that since 30k killed by guns is to many then the 1.3 million killed in car accidents should send you over the top.

    Once again I didn't say one way or the other what I thought about gun laws in this country.  Please refer to my quote.  One thing I can tell you though is that taking all the guns away from people so only the government has them isn't the answer.  

    Ask the people that ran in the Boston Marathon how they feel about bombs.

    There are millions of abortions each year in this country.  Many people believe that is killing.  Should we all stop having sex?

    Let me put it in simple terms for your simple mind.  You have a lot better chance at being killed in a car accident than you do from being shot by a gun.  That's a FACT!

    I don't believe in politics, I believe in common sense. Get some.

    Let me put this in simple terms for your simple mind. We need cars. They are a vital part to living a normal life. It would be almost impossible for most people to get from point A to point B.

    If we took away cars, life would be a lot tougher and less convenient. We NEED cars every single day of our lives. We don't need guns. The only thing that would happen if your gun was taken away, you would no longer feel like John Wayne.

    Again, I'll use my common sense to say that it is not fair to responsible gun owners that a bunch of maniacs ruin it for them but that's life. INNOCENT people dying is much more important that your need to carry a gun and feel like John Wayne.

    My original point was the gun laws in this country are a JOKE. If you disagree, you are an idiot. I don't have the answers but something must be done. People make $100,000 + / a year to be smart enough to make decisions like this. Pay me all that money and I will dedicate my life to finding the answers.

    Done with this thread.

     
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    If, anyone truly had command sense they could see that the root cause of mass shootings is psychotropic drugs and mentally disturbed people ,,who don't care about laws ..
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    If, anyone truly had command sense they could see that the root cause of mass shootings is psychotropic drugs and mentally disturbed people ,,who don't care about laws ..
     
     
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    *  command sense  common sense.........
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    *  command sense  common sense.........
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