As stated write everything off except the house stuff unless of course your house is used to hold meetings, retreats, or some other business activities....Running a business requires the use of just about everything.....Are you drawing a paycheck as well from the business?
not drawing a paycheck yet, invested some money into the business and floating it with that at this time, but at least the business is turning profit monthly...
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Quote Originally Posted by ABooksNightmare:
As stated write everything off except the house stuff unless of course your house is used to hold meetings, retreats, or some other business activities....Running a business requires the use of just about everything.....Are you drawing a paycheck as well from the business?
not drawing a paycheck yet, invested some money into the business and floating it with that at this time, but at least the business is turning profit monthly...
i run my business out of my house mostly and i dont touch home office write offs
too sticky, i'm told
I might convert to home office... by accountant said that she could continue to work with me and gave me a list today to thing to look at for deductions...
Car, repairs and maintenance and keeping a millage log...
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Quote Originally Posted by KOAJ:
i run my business out of my house mostly and i dont touch home office write offs
too sticky, i'm told
I might convert to home office... by accountant said that she could continue to work with me and gave me a list today to thing to look at for deductions...
Car, repairs and maintenance and keeping a millage log...
i run my business out of my house mostly and i dont touch home office write offs
too sticky, i'm told
Not sticky at all. Just don't try to calculate the numbers on your own. Give your accountant all of the totals for utilities, homeowners insurance, etc. and the square footage used as office and the total square footage of the house. They should calculate the percentages for you.
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Quote Originally Posted by KOAJ:
i run my business out of my house mostly and i dont touch home office write offs
too sticky, i'm told
Not sticky at all. Just don't try to calculate the numbers on your own. Give your accountant all of the totals for utilities, homeowners insurance, etc. and the square footage used as office and the total square footage of the house. They should calculate the percentages for you.
You can basically write everything off that is business related but if you have alot of misc. expenses like car, gas, food- it can raise red flags. Lets put it this way, you can write anything you want off as long as you don't get audited- the question is, what is the likelihood of you getting audited for trying to write off what you are writing off. I can say I had $2000 in car expenses even if I don't have a car and never get audited- the point is, you don't want to go deduction crazy.
You have an accountant- get a free consultation and get your money's worth from him by getting free info from the person that will be doing your bookeeping and taxes. If there is anyone that knows and will be doing it, it will be your accountant.
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You can basically write everything off that is business related but if you have alot of misc. expenses like car, gas, food- it can raise red flags. Lets put it this way, you can write anything you want off as long as you don't get audited- the question is, what is the likelihood of you getting audited for trying to write off what you are writing off. I can say I had $2000 in car expenses even if I don't have a car and never get audited- the point is, you don't want to go deduction crazy.
You have an accountant- get a free consultation and get your money's worth from him by getting free info from the person that will be doing your bookeeping and taxes. If there is anyone that knows and will be doing it, it will be your accountant.
Not sticky at all. Just don't try to calculate the numbers on your own. Give your accountant all of the totals for utilities, homeowners insurance, etc. and the square footage used as office and the total square footage of the house. They should calculate the percentages for you.
My accountant said it's not worth it since the house interest is already being deducted from personal.
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Quote Originally Posted by USCdiehard71:
Not sticky at all. Just don't try to calculate the numbers on your own. Give your accountant all of the totals for utilities, homeowners insurance, etc. and the square footage used as office and the total square footage of the house. They should calculate the percentages for you.
My accountant said it's not worth it since the house interest is already being deducted from personal.
I might convert to home office... by accountant said that she could continue to work with me and gave me a list today to thing to look at for deductions...
Car, repairs and maintenance and keeping a millage log...
Remember one thing- your accountant is only a sponge. She puts the numbers in from what you tell her. If you give her BS info then she will put in BS info. One thing for sure is that accountants know their stuff- they usually know when you are BSing and when you are trying to cheat your taxes- they balance all the numbers and know from the numbers. That said, your accountant will most likely give you advice when you are giving her the figures- at least I would think so. Lastly, since she is only a sponge (and hopefully she warns you of possible red flags), YOU are responsible for all your financials. If you get audited, she has nothing to do with it- it's your responsibility- pick up any tax form and it will also tell you that. If you get audited, guess what? She will probably charge you for the work she has to do during the audit also. Not trying to scare you but I know quite a bit about this stuff.
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Quote Originally Posted by dl36:
I might convert to home office... by accountant said that she could continue to work with me and gave me a list today to thing to look at for deductions...
Car, repairs and maintenance and keeping a millage log...
Remember one thing- your accountant is only a sponge. She puts the numbers in from what you tell her. If you give her BS info then she will put in BS info. One thing for sure is that accountants know their stuff- they usually know when you are BSing and when you are trying to cheat your taxes- they balance all the numbers and know from the numbers. That said, your accountant will most likely give you advice when you are giving her the figures- at least I would think so. Lastly, since she is only a sponge (and hopefully she warns you of possible red flags), YOU are responsible for all your financials. If you get audited, she has nothing to do with it- it's your responsibility- pick up any tax form and it will also tell you that. If you get audited, guess what? She will probably charge you for the work she has to do during the audit also. Not trying to scare you but I know quite a bit about this stuff.
My accountant said it's not worth it since the house interest is already being deducted from personal.
That is correct to a certain extent. If you are a sole proprietor it is definitely worth it because it directly reduces Self-Employment tax. Every situation is different, but in the majority of cases it is very beneficial to take office in home because the portion that is not used to reduce SE tax goes to Schedule A (itemized deductions) anyways. So regardless you get the full write-off, but by using Office in home you also eliminate SE tax and get to include Insurance, utilities, etc.
Again though each individual is it's own special situation and what may benefit one person may not benefit the other.
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Quote Originally Posted by tjohnsont:
My accountant said it's not worth it since the house interest is already being deducted from personal.
That is correct to a certain extent. If you are a sole proprietor it is definitely worth it because it directly reduces Self-Employment tax. Every situation is different, but in the majority of cases it is very beneficial to take office in home because the portion that is not used to reduce SE tax goes to Schedule A (itemized deductions) anyways. So regardless you get the full write-off, but by using Office in home you also eliminate SE tax and get to include Insurance, utilities, etc.
Again though each individual is it's own special situation and what may benefit one person may not benefit the other.
That is correct to a certain extent. If you are a sole proprietor it is definitely worth it because it directly reduces Self-Employment tax. Every situation is different, but in the majority of cases it is very beneficial to take office in home because the portion that is not used to reduce SE tax goes to Schedule A (itemized deductions) anyways. So regardless you get the full write-off, but by using Office in home you also eliminate SE tax and get to include Insurance, utilities, etc.
Again though each individual is it's own special situation and what may benefit one person may not benefit the other.
It's very benficial for renters as apartment/home rent is obviously nondeductible on personal taxes unless you use business use of home.
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Quote Originally Posted by USCdiehard71:
That is correct to a certain extent. If you are a sole proprietor it is definitely worth it because it directly reduces Self-Employment tax. Every situation is different, but in the majority of cases it is very beneficial to take office in home because the portion that is not used to reduce SE tax goes to Schedule A (itemized deductions) anyways. So regardless you get the full write-off, but by using Office in home you also eliminate SE tax and get to include Insurance, utilities, etc.
Again though each individual is it's own special situation and what may benefit one person may not benefit the other.
It's very benficial for renters as apartment/home rent is obviously nondeductible on personal taxes unless you use business use of home.
That is correct to a certain extent. If you are a sole proprietor it is definitely worth it because it directly reduces Self-Employment tax. Every situation is different, but in the majority of cases it is very beneficial to take office in home because the portion that is not used to reduce SE tax goes to Schedule A (itemized deductions) anyways. So regardless you get the full write-off, but by using Office in home you also eliminate SE tax and get to include Insurance, utilities, etc.
Again though each individual is it's own special situation and what may benefit one person may not benefit the other.
It just depends but I'm sure my accountant is too lazy to deduct it for me. He also said the extra charge he charges me will make the deduction negligable.
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Quote Originally Posted by USCdiehard71:
That is correct to a certain extent. If you are a sole proprietor it is definitely worth it because it directly reduces Self-Employment tax. Every situation is different, but in the majority of cases it is very beneficial to take office in home because the portion that is not used to reduce SE tax goes to Schedule A (itemized deductions) anyways. So regardless you get the full write-off, but by using Office in home you also eliminate SE tax and get to include Insurance, utilities, etc.
Again though each individual is it's own special situation and what may benefit one person may not benefit the other.
It just depends but I'm sure my accountant is too lazy to deduct it for me. He also said the extra charge he charges me will make the deduction negligable.
Also, if there you have significant liability based on your type of business, you may want to consider forming an LLC to protect your personal assets-
I'm setup as an S. The LLC is the popular choice these days- difference is that you don't have to keep Minutes and board meetings etc. If I had a choice now, I would probably setup as a sole proprieter since I don't really see many advantages to being an S- you can avoid some employment tax but you will have to pay a yearly $600 to the state- in Cali at least. Keep it simple, focus on making money first.
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Quote Originally Posted by Dsn150:
Ask if there is any benefit to forming an S Corp-
Also, if there you have significant liability based on your type of business, you may want to consider forming an LLC to protect your personal assets-
I'm setup as an S. The LLC is the popular choice these days- difference is that you don't have to keep Minutes and board meetings etc. If I had a choice now, I would probably setup as a sole proprieter since I don't really see many advantages to being an S- you can avoid some employment tax but you will have to pay a yearly $600 to the state- in Cali at least. Keep it simple, focus on making money first.
Remember one thing- your accountant is only a sponge. She puts the numbers in from what you tell her. If you give her BS info then she will put in BS info. One thing for sure is that accountants know their stuff- they usually know when you are BSing and when you are trying to cheat your taxes- they balance all the numbers and know from the numbers. That said, your accountant will most likely give you advice when you are giving her the figures- at least I would think so. Lastly, since she is only a sponge (and hopefully she warns you of possible red flags), YOU are responsible for all your financials. If you get audited, she has nothing to do with it- it's your responsibility- pick up any tax form and it will also tell you that. If you get audited, guess what? She will probably charge you for the work she has to do during the audit also. Not trying to scare you but I know quite a bit about this stuff.
I appreciate the help, I guess I am looking to be fair and follow the law, but at the same time try to find as many legal deductions as possible...
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Quote Originally Posted by tjohnsont:
Remember one thing- your accountant is only a sponge. She puts the numbers in from what you tell her. If you give her BS info then she will put in BS info. One thing for sure is that accountants know their stuff- they usually know when you are BSing and when you are trying to cheat your taxes- they balance all the numbers and know from the numbers. That said, your accountant will most likely give you advice when you are giving her the figures- at least I would think so. Lastly, since she is only a sponge (and hopefully she warns you of possible red flags), YOU are responsible for all your financials. If you get audited, she has nothing to do with it- it's your responsibility- pick up any tax form and it will also tell you that. If you get audited, guess what? She will probably charge you for the work she has to do during the audit also. Not trying to scare you but I know quite a bit about this stuff.
I appreciate the help, I guess I am looking to be fair and follow the law, but at the same time try to find as many legal deductions as possible...
i run my business out of my house mostly and i dont touch home office write offs
too sticky, i'm told
Very easy to do....All that is needed in any audit with the IRS is proof that those business transactions are taking place on the premises where your home resides. Not sticky at all and all very well common for a person running a business from his home.
If you have an office and it is being used to run your business then write off a portion of the mortgage for that home/office space as part of doing business. This of course will go along with the utilities as well. The problem people get themselves into is writing off the entire portion. That is obviously going to be a red flag.
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Quote Originally Posted by KOAJ:
i run my business out of my house mostly and i dont touch home office write offs
too sticky, i'm told
Very easy to do....All that is needed in any audit with the IRS is proof that those business transactions are taking place on the premises where your home resides. Not sticky at all and all very well common for a person running a business from his home.
If you have an office and it is being used to run your business then write off a portion of the mortgage for that home/office space as part of doing business. This of course will go along with the utilities as well. The problem people get themselves into is writing off the entire portion. That is obviously going to be a red flag.
not drawing a paycheck yet, invested some money into the business and floating it with that at this time, but at least the business is turning profit monthly...
Any monies put into the business from your own personal account should be carried as a note due to you on your balance sheet.
Most people do not do this, but in my opinion it is necessary. I do it here with our business. The negative affects are that it affects your equity as a liability from the company, but it protects you depending on how your company is set up.
COVERS allows u to tell someone they are sexually frustrated so long as ur hands are clean
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Quote Originally Posted by dl36:
not drawing a paycheck yet, invested some money into the business and floating it with that at this time, but at least the business is turning profit monthly...
Any monies put into the business from your own personal account should be carried as a note due to you on your balance sheet.
Most people do not do this, but in my opinion it is necessary. I do it here with our business. The negative affects are that it affects your equity as a liability from the company, but it protects you depending on how your company is set up.
vanwilder21 Posted: 8/26/2010 8:35:29 PM "Oh no!!! GBP has moved from posting in Food and Fitness to General Discussion!!! Good luck fellas!!! "
Spitfire15 Posted: 8/26/2010 8:42:23 PM "What's the scouting report van? I've never been to the food & fitness section"
vanwilder21 Posted: 8/26/2010 8:48:59 PM "He's
like dl36.....Starts a hundred threads with about 10 pages of copy and
paste links.....Just click on the Forum for examples...."
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WTF?
I guess you are good at ruining threads, but not good at creating intelligent/civil dialog like EVERYONE ELSE on this thread...
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Quote Originally Posted by GBP:
vanwilder21 Posted: 8/26/2010 8:35:29 PM "Oh no!!! GBP has moved from posting in Food and Fitness to General Discussion!!! Good luck fellas!!! "
Spitfire15 Posted: 8/26/2010 8:42:23 PM "What's the scouting report van? I've never been to the food & fitness section"
vanwilder21 Posted: 8/26/2010 8:48:59 PM "He's
like dl36.....Starts a hundred threads with about 10 pages of copy and
paste links.....Just click on the Forum for examples...."
'
WTF?
I guess you are good at ruining threads, but not good at creating intelligent/civil dialog like EVERYONE ELSE on this thread...
There is strip club in my area that does regular bikini car washes....
That would be a nice write off for my $20 car wash (and the extra tip on the "private show")
Writeoffs- you won't get 100% deduction since your vehicle is not used for biz 100% of its use. It's a pain in the butt- keep all receipts, keep mileage logs so it's deducted as a percentage of use. Depending on your business, it might not be many miles.
If you write too many misc and car expenses off that is not the norm in your industry, you are asking for it.
I'm not saying you should cheat the system (even though I do know it can be easily done and how), but you don't have to kill yourself keeping all these records. Records are only needed during audit- and that is only if you get audited. Some people have a better chance of getting audited by trying to keep too good of records while trying to Max Out all their deductions- sounds weird but the penny pinchers usually have excessive deductions also that raises flags.
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Quote Originally Posted by dl36:
car washes? seriously?
There is strip club in my area that does regular bikini car washes....
That would be a nice write off for my $20 car wash (and the extra tip on the "private show")
Writeoffs- you won't get 100% deduction since your vehicle is not used for biz 100% of its use. It's a pain in the butt- keep all receipts, keep mileage logs so it's deducted as a percentage of use. Depending on your business, it might not be many miles.
If you write too many misc and car expenses off that is not the norm in your industry, you are asking for it.
I'm not saying you should cheat the system (even though I do know it can be easily done and how), but you don't have to kill yourself keeping all these records. Records are only needed during audit- and that is only if you get audited. Some people have a better chance of getting audited by trying to keep too good of records while trying to Max Out all their deductions- sounds weird but the penny pinchers usually have excessive deductions also that raises flags.
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