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    Posted: Aug. 21, 2015 - 6:22 PM ET #1

    Army of God is a Christian terrorist anti-abortion organization that sanctions the use of force to combat abortion in the United States. 

    Why don't Christians come out against groups like this? 


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    Army of God is a Christian terrorist anti-abortion organization that sanctions the use of force to combat abortion in the United States. 

    Why don't Christians come out against groups like this? 


     
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    Posted: Aug. 21, 2015 - 6:29 PM ET #2

    Never heard of them, that could be why...

    How many clinics have they blown up 50, 100? Have they tried to take over cities?
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    Never heard of them, that could be why...

    How many clinics have they blown up 50, 100? Have they tried to take over cities?
     
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    Posted: Aug. 21, 2015 - 6:37 PM ET #3

    Quote Originally Posted by Killer_B:

    Never heard of them, that could be why...

    How many clinics have they blown up 50, 100? Have they tried to take over cities?

    Government documents will describe Spitz as the “webmaster” of the Army of God Web site, and the spiritual advisor to former minister Paul Hill, who will later be convicted of murdering a physician and his bodyguard. Spitz will post running correspondence on the AOG site from anti-abortion activist Clayton Waagner, who will confess to sending over 550 letters containing fake anthrax to abortion clinics. 

    Anthrax is ok? You're only bad if you blow up a building? 


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    Quote Originally Posted by Killer_B:

    Never heard of them, that could be why...

    How many clinics have they blown up 50, 100? Have they tried to take over cities?

    Government documents will describe Spitz as the “webmaster” of the Army of God Web site, and the spiritual advisor to former minister Paul Hill, who will later be convicted of murdering a physician and his bodyguard. Spitz will post running correspondence on the AOG site from anti-abortion activist Clayton Waagner, who will confess to sending over 550 letters containing fake anthrax to abortion clinics. 

    Anthrax is ok? You're only bad if you blow up a building? 


     
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    Posted: Aug. 21, 2015 - 6:44 PM ET #4

    Oh, wait.... 

    The New Woman All Women Health Care Clinic in Birmingham, Alabama, is bombed by anti-abortion activist Eric Rudolph. The bomb, hidden in a flowerpot, kills police officer Robert Sanderson and critically injures nurse Emily Lyons. Rudolph, who flees the scene and hides successfully for years in the wilds of western North Carolina, is also responsible for the fatal 1996 bombing during the Olympics in Atlanta, Georgia (see July 27, 1996 and After), and several other bombings, including other Atlanta abortion clinics (see January 16, 1997 andOctober 14, 1998) and an Atlanta lesbian bar (see February 21, 1997). [FEDERAL BUREAU OF INVESTIGATION, 10/14/1998; KUSHNER, 2003, PP. 40; CNN, 5/31/2003; CNN, 12/11/2003] Rudolph lives in Murphy, North Carolina, a small town in the mountainous western part of the state. Over Christmas, he purchased materials from the local Wal-Mart to assist in his fashioning of the bomb. Rudolph was dissatisfied with the results of his earlier bombings, and instead of relying on an alarm clock to act as a timer as he did with his previous bombs, modifies a model airplane remote control to use as a detonator. Before dawn, he places the bomb inside a pot beside the front door of the clinic and places plastic flowers on top of it. He watches from a hill about a block away; when he sees Sanderson bend down to examine the flowerpot, he detonates the bomb. A witness sees Rudolph walking away from the explosion, and, later explaining that he found it suspicious when everyone else was running towards it, watches as Rudolph gets into his pickup truck and drives away. The witness writes down Rudolph’s license plate number—KND 1117—and alerts police. The FBI will soon identify Rudolph with the bombing, and will quickly tie him to his other three attacks. [ORLANDO WEEKLY, 8/24/2006] 
    Opposed to Abortion, Government - Family members will later say that Rudolph is not only opposed to abortion, but to all forms of government in general; his sister-in-law will tell CNN that Rudolph’s immediate family is “against… any form of government or the form of government that we have in our country today.” Evidence shows Rudolph is an active member of the extremist anti-abortion group Army of God (see 1982 and Early 1980s) and the Christian Identity movement (see1960s and After), a militant, racist and anti-Semitic organization that believes whites are God’s chosen people. He will be described by future Attorney General John Ashcroft as “the most notorious American fugitive on the FBI’s ‘Most Wanted’ list.” [CNN, 12/11/2003] 
    Will Plead Guilty - Rudolph will later plead guilty to the bombing, and other crimes, in lieu of being sentenced to death (see April 14, 2005). He will justify the bombing in an essay from prison, writing that Jesus would condone “militant action in defense of the innocent.” He will also reveal the location of a large cache of explosives, apparently gathered for future bombing attacks. [EXTREMIST GROUPS: INFORMATION FOR STUDENTS, 1/1/2006; ASSOCIATED PRESS, 5/31/2009] 
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    Oh, wait.... 

    The New Woman All Women Health Care Clinic in Birmingham, Alabama, is bombed by anti-abortion activist Eric Rudolph. The bomb, hidden in a flowerpot, kills police officer Robert Sanderson and critically injures nurse Emily Lyons. Rudolph, who flees the scene and hides successfully for years in the wilds of western North Carolina, is also responsible for the fatal 1996 bombing during the Olympics in Atlanta, Georgia (see July 27, 1996 and After), and several other bombings, including other Atlanta abortion clinics (see January 16, 1997 andOctober 14, 1998) and an Atlanta lesbian bar (see February 21, 1997). [FEDERAL BUREAU OF INVESTIGATION, 10/14/1998; KUSHNER, 2003, PP. 40; CNN, 5/31/2003; CNN, 12/11/2003] Rudolph lives in Murphy, North Carolina, a small town in the mountainous western part of the state. Over Christmas, he purchased materials from the local Wal-Mart to assist in his fashioning of the bomb. Rudolph was dissatisfied with the results of his earlier bombings, and instead of relying on an alarm clock to act as a timer as he did with his previous bombs, modifies a model airplane remote control to use as a detonator. Before dawn, he places the bomb inside a pot beside the front door of the clinic and places plastic flowers on top of it. He watches from a hill about a block away; when he sees Sanderson bend down to examine the flowerpot, he detonates the bomb. A witness sees Rudolph walking away from the explosion, and, later explaining that he found it suspicious when everyone else was running towards it, watches as Rudolph gets into his pickup truck and drives away. The witness writes down Rudolph’s license plate number—KND 1117—and alerts police. The FBI will soon identify Rudolph with the bombing, and will quickly tie him to his other three attacks. [ORLANDO WEEKLY, 8/24/2006] 
    Opposed to Abortion, Government - Family members will later say that Rudolph is not only opposed to abortion, but to all forms of government in general; his sister-in-law will tell CNN that Rudolph’s immediate family is “against… any form of government or the form of government that we have in our country today.” Evidence shows Rudolph is an active member of the extremist anti-abortion group Army of God (see 1982 and Early 1980s) and the Christian Identity movement (see1960s and After), a militant, racist and anti-Semitic organization that believes whites are God’s chosen people. He will be described by future Attorney General John Ashcroft as “the most notorious American fugitive on the FBI’s ‘Most Wanted’ list.” [CNN, 12/11/2003] 
    Will Plead Guilty - Rudolph will later plead guilty to the bombing, and other crimes, in lieu of being sentenced to death (see April 14, 2005). He will justify the bombing in an essay from prison, writing that Jesus would condone “militant action in defense of the innocent.” He will also reveal the location of a large cache of explosives, apparently gathered for future bombing attacks. [EXTREMIST GROUPS: INFORMATION FOR STUDENTS, 1/1/2006; ASSOCIATED PRESS, 5/31/2009] 
     
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    Posted: Aug. 21, 2015 - 6:48 PM ET #5

    Dr. Barnett Slepian, an obstetrician in Buffalo, New York, who performs abortions, is shot to death in his kitchen, by a bullet that enters through the window of his Amherst, New York, home. His wife and one of his four children witness his murder. Anti-abortion advocate James Kopp shoots Slepian with a high-powered rifle. Kopp uses the pseudonym “Clive Swenson,” and is well known under that name in a Jersey City, New Jersey, Catholic congregation. Militant anti-abortionists call him “Atomic Dog.” It will take the FBI over two years to find Kopp, who will be arrested in France. Kopp, who apparently was drawn to anti-abortion protests in the 1970s after his girlfriend had an abortion, has been active in anti-abortion protests for decades and joined Randall Terry’s Operation Rescue in 1986. It is also believed he joined the violent anti-abortion organization “Army of God” in 1988. 

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    Dr. Barnett Slepian, an obstetrician in Buffalo, New York, who performs abortions, is shot to death in his kitchen, by a bullet that enters through the window of his Amherst, New York, home. His wife and one of his four children witness his murder. Anti-abortion advocate James Kopp shoots Slepian with a high-powered rifle. Kopp uses the pseudonym “Clive Swenson,” and is well known under that name in a Jersey City, New Jersey, Catholic congregation. Militant anti-abortionists call him “Atomic Dog.” It will take the FBI over two years to find Kopp, who will be arrested in France. Kopp, who apparently was drawn to anti-abortion protests in the 1970s after his girlfriend had an abortion, has been active in anti-abortion protests for decades and joined Randall Terry’s Operation Rescue in 1986. It is also believed he joined the violent anti-abortion organization “Army of God” in 1988. 

     
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    Posted: Aug. 21, 2015 - 6:49 PM ET #6

    A happy and lesbian nightclub in Atlanta, The Otherside Lounge, is bombed, injuring five people. A second explosive is found on the side of the building, apparently set to go off after first responders such as police, firemen, and paramedics respond to the first explosion; that bomb is safely detonated with no injuries or damage suffered. After the bombing, a handwritten, unsigned letter is sent to the Reuters news agency, claiming that this and a January 1997 bombing of an abortion clinic are the work of what the letter claims to be “units of the Army of God.

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    A happy and lesbian nightclub in Atlanta, The Otherside Lounge, is bombed, injuring five people. A second explosive is found on the side of the building, apparently set to go off after first responders such as police, firemen, and paramedics respond to the first explosion; that bomb is safely detonated with no injuries or damage suffered. After the bombing, a handwritten, unsigned letter is sent to the Reuters news agency, claiming that this and a January 1997 bombing of an abortion clinic are the work of what the letter claims to be “units of the Army of God.

     
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    Posted: Aug. 21, 2015 - 7:03 PM ET #7

    If a Muslim commits a crime because they don't agree with something... The white, American, Christian says, "If you don't like our rules, leave!" 

    If a black person commits a crime because they don't agree with something... The white, American, Christian says, "If you don't like our rules, leave!" 

    If a white, American, Christian commits a crime because they don't agree with something... The white, American, Christian says "How many buildings have they blown up 50? 100?" "Have they tried to take over any cities?" 

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    If a Muslim commits a crime because they don't agree with something... The white, American, Christian says, "If you don't like our rules, leave!" 

    If a black person commits a crime because they don't agree with something... The white, American, Christian says, "If you don't like our rules, leave!" 

    If a white, American, Christian commits a crime because they don't agree with something... The white, American, Christian says "How many buildings have they blown up 50? 100?" "Have they tried to take over any cities?" 

     
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    Posted: Aug. 21, 2015 - 7:34 PM ET #8

    I would never condone any of this violence but I do have to ask: Have they committed any of these atrocities this century?

    Or is this a way to deflect from the Islamic Extremism of today...you know, like the Crusades and stuff?

    I also heard back in 12,000BC a white caveman called a black caveman the "N" word. I hope his racist ancestors are paying for that.
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    I would never condone any of this violence but I do have to ask: Have they committed any of these atrocities this century?

    Or is this a way to deflect from the Islamic Extremism of today...you know, like the Crusades and stuff?

    I also heard back in 12,000BC a white caveman called a black caveman the "N" word. I hope his racist ancestors are paying for that.
     
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    Posted: Aug. 21, 2015 - 7:50 PM ET #9

    Army of God member Scott Roeder is serving life without parole for murdering a Dr in Wichita, Kansas in 2009. 

    That was just a quick google search. Let me know if you need any more help. 

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    Army of God member Scott Roeder is serving life without parole for murdering a Dr in Wichita, Kansas in 2009. 

    That was just a quick google search. Let me know if you need any more help. 

     
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    Posted: Aug. 21, 2015 - 8:39 PM ET #10

    I said I don't condone any type of violence.

    I remember when Tiller was killed.

    The reason I always make posts in your threads is to show the contrast between what battles you choose to fight (like this one or the mass shooting tracker by non-Muslims) and the battles I choose to fight (which is thousands of inner city murders TODAY and thousands of Muslim Terrorists attacks TODAY)

    I'm no Nostradamus but I'm pretty sure there will be more inner city murders tomorrow and more Muslim terrorists attacks tomorrow.

    I doubt if any abortion clinics will be bombed tomorrow.

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    I said I don't condone any type of violence.

    I remember when Tiller was killed.

    The reason I always make posts in your threads is to show the contrast between what battles you choose to fight (like this one or the mass shooting tracker by non-Muslims) and the battles I choose to fight (which is thousands of inner city murders TODAY and thousands of Muslim Terrorists attacks TODAY)

    I'm no Nostradamus but I'm pretty sure there will be more inner city murders tomorrow and more Muslim terrorists attacks tomorrow.

    I doubt if any abortion clinics will be bombed tomorrow.

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    Posted: Aug. 21, 2015 - 8:58 PM ET #11

    In the United States it is far more likely a right wing extremist murders someone tomorrow than a jihadist. I know that goes against everything you believe, but that's a fact Jack. 

    Side note - If you believe abortion is the same as murdering a child and you don't do anything about it.... 

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    In the United States it is far more likely a right wing extremist murders someone tomorrow than a jihadist. I know that goes against everything you believe, but that's a fact Jack. 

    Side note - If you believe abortion is the same as murdering a child and you don't do anything about it.... 

     
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    Quote Originally Posted by I_Need_A_Detox:

    In the United States it is far more likely a right wing extremist murders someone tomorrow than a jihadist. I know that goes against everything you believe, but that's a fact Jack. 

    Side note - If you believe abortion is the same as murdering a child and you don't do anything about it.... 



    This is where the spin begins.

    If you, Obama, The Daily Kos, Media Matters, or any other liberal mouth piece are the ones to define what a "Right Wing Extremists" is then the numbers will sway in that direction.

    How would you define a right wing extremists?

    I would define a jihadists as someone who murders in the name of allah. See, that's easy.

    Who would be a left wing extremists? I know most of the murders in this country occur in the inner city of "Insert City Name Here". I have to assume since Obama got 95% of the black vote and that demographic is doing the murders then those are the Left Wing Extremists, right?
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    Quote Originally Posted by I_Need_A_Detox:

    In the United States it is far more likely a right wing extremist murders someone tomorrow than a jihadist. I know that goes against everything you believe, but that's a fact Jack. 

    Side note - If you believe abortion is the same as murdering a child and you don't do anything about it.... 



    This is where the spin begins.

    If you, Obama, The Daily Kos, Media Matters, or any other liberal mouth piece are the ones to define what a "Right Wing Extremists" is then the numbers will sway in that direction.

    How would you define a right wing extremists?

    I would define a jihadists as someone who murders in the name of allah. See, that's easy.

    Who would be a left wing extremists? I know most of the murders in this country occur in the inner city of "Insert City Name Here". I have to assume since Obama got 95% of the black vote and that demographic is doing the murders then those are the Left Wing Extremists, right?
     
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    All Religious Fanatics are a Cancer to Society.

    ALL OF THEM.
    ~~~~~ZOSO~~~~~
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    All Religious Fanatics are a Cancer to Society.

    ALL OF THEM.
     
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    Posted: Aug. 21, 2015 - 11:23 PM ET #14

    Quote Originally Posted by canovsp:



    This is where the spin begins.

    If you, Obama, The Daily Kos, Media Matters, or any other liberal mouth piece are the ones to define what a "Right Wing Extremists" is then the numbers will sway in that direction.

    How would you define a right wing extremists?

    I would define a jihadists as someone who murders in the name of allah. See, that's easy.

    Who would be a left wing extremists? I know most of the murders in this country occur in the inner city of "Insert City Name Here". I have to assume since Obama got 95% of the black vote and that demographic is doing the murders then those are the Left Wing Extremists, right?

    A right wing extremist is someone who murders in the name of god. Or they believe that they're righting a wrong. The eye for an eye attitude. There isn't much difference between a right wing extremist and a jihadist. 

    They took down our towers, what should we do? "Bomb the entire Middle East and pave it over." You hear a lot of this rhetoric from the right wing extremists.


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    Quote Originally Posted by canovsp:



    This is where the spin begins.

    If you, Obama, The Daily Kos, Media Matters, or any other liberal mouth piece are the ones to define what a "Right Wing Extremists" is then the numbers will sway in that direction.

    How would you define a right wing extremists?

    I would define a jihadists as someone who murders in the name of allah. See, that's easy.

    Who would be a left wing extremists? I know most of the murders in this country occur in the inner city of "Insert City Name Here". I have to assume since Obama got 95% of the black vote and that demographic is doing the murders then those are the Left Wing Extremists, right?

    A right wing extremist is someone who murders in the name of god. Or they believe that they're righting a wrong. The eye for an eye attitude. There isn't much difference between a right wing extremist and a jihadist. 

    They took down our towers, what should we do? "Bomb the entire Middle East and pave it over." You hear a lot of this rhetoric from the right wing extremists.


     
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    Quote Originally Posted by TheGoldenGoose:


    All Religious Fanatics are a Cancer to Society.

    ALL OF THEM.

    Extremists, zealots, megalomaniacs of all facets of life are cancers to society. 
    The vast majority of mainstream religion has a positive impact on people's lives, even those who don't associate with them.
    Half of the 10 most generous non profits in the world are Christian based (Salvation Army, Food for the Poor, YMCA, St. Jude's Children's Research Hospitals, and Catholic Charities).
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    Quote Originally Posted by TheGoldenGoose:


    All Religious Fanatics are a Cancer to Society.

    ALL OF THEM.

    Extremists, zealots, megalomaniacs of all facets of life are cancers to society. 
    The vast majority of mainstream religion has a positive impact on people's lives, even those who don't associate with them.
    Half of the 10 most generous non profits in the world are Christian based (Salvation Army, Food for the Poor, YMCA, St. Jude's Children's Research Hospitals, and Catholic Charities).
     
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    Thank God today's daily Islamic terrorist on that train in France was foiled by members of the American military on that train.

    Maybe you are Nostradamus, Cano.
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    Thank God today's daily Islamic terrorist on that train in France was foiled by members of the American military on that train.

    Maybe you are Nostradamus, Cano.
     
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    Posted: Aug. 22, 2015 - 7:26 PM ET #17

    Quote Originally Posted by TheGoldenGoose:


    All Religious Fanatics are a Cancer to Society.

    ALL OF THEM.


    That should've ended this thread right there. I learned about "The Golden Rule" in kindergaten. Forget about all this hocus-pocus B.S. religion crap ~ no matter what statue you pray to. If everyone just followed that one rule, the world would be a much better place.......

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    Quote Originally Posted by TheGoldenGoose:


    All Religious Fanatics are a Cancer to Society.

    ALL OF THEM.


    That should've ended this thread right there. I learned about "The Golden Rule" in kindergaten. Forget about all this hocus-pocus B.S. religion crap ~ no matter what statue you pray to. If everyone just followed that one rule, the world would be a much better place.......

     
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    Quote Originally Posted by canovsp:

    I said I don't condone any type of violence.

    I remember when Tiller was killed.

    The reason I always make posts in your threads is to show the contrast between what battles you choose to fight (like this one or the mass shooting tracker by non-Muslims) and the battles I choose to fight (which is thousands of inner city murders TODAY and thousands of Muslim Terrorists attacks TODAY)

    I'm no Nostradamus but I'm pretty sure there will be more inner city murders tomorrow and more Muslim terrorists attacks tomorrow.

    I doubt if any abortion clinics will be bombed tomorrow.

    (Handshake)
    Only thing I disagree with is the handshake.
    We should stop eating bananas.
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    Quote Originally Posted by canovsp:

    I said I don't condone any type of violence.

    I remember when Tiller was killed.

    The reason I always make posts in your threads is to show the contrast between what battles you choose to fight (like this one or the mass shooting tracker by non-Muslims) and the battles I choose to fight (which is thousands of inner city murders TODAY and thousands of Muslim Terrorists attacks TODAY)

    I'm no Nostradamus but I'm pretty sure there will be more inner city murders tomorrow and more Muslim terrorists attacks tomorrow.

    I doubt if any abortion clinics will be bombed tomorrow.

    (Handshake)
    Only thing I disagree with is the handshake.
     
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    More evil has been done in the name of religion. 
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    More evil has been done in the name of religion. 
     
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    Quote Originally Posted by Getty3:


    Extremists, zealots, megalomaniacs of all facets of life are cancers to society. 
    The vast majority of mainstream religion has a positive impact on people's lives, even those who don't associate with them.


    The vast majority of Islam has a positive impact on people's lives. Tying Muslims to terrorism is the same as tying Christians to terrorism. 

    Sure the Middle East is in complete chaos but nobody is more responsible for that chaos than the United States. 

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    Quote Originally Posted by Getty3:


    Extremists, zealots, megalomaniacs of all facets of life are cancers to society. 
    The vast majority of mainstream religion has a positive impact on people's lives, even those who don't associate with them.


    The vast majority of Islam has a positive impact on people's lives. Tying Muslims to terrorism is the same as tying Christians to terrorism. 

    Sure the Middle East is in complete chaos but nobody is more responsible for that chaos than the United States. 

     
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    I'm a Christian and I can't stand those fockers
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    I'm a Christian and I can't stand those fockers
     
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    From one of the least educated states in all of the land, probably have never interacted with a Muslim and you categorize them as a group you don't like based off the twisted media that is fed into your brain.

    'Merica.
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    From one of the least educated states in all of the land, probably have never interacted with a Muslim and you categorize them as a group you don't like based off the twisted media that is fed into your brain.

    'Merica.
     
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    Quote Originally Posted by I_Need_A_Detox:

    From one of the least educated states in all of the land, probably have never interacted with a Muslim and you categorize them as a group you don't like based off the twisted media that is fed into your brain.

    'Merica.

    Are you basing that off of real life interactions or are you basing that off of what the twisted media has fed into your brain?

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    Quote Originally Posted by I_Need_A_Detox:

    From one of the least educated states in all of the land, probably have never interacted with a Muslim and you categorize them as a group you don't like based off the twisted media that is fed into your brain.

    'Merica.

    Are you basing that off of real life interactions or are you basing that off of what the twisted media has fed into your brain?

     
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    [Quote: Originally Posted by I_Need_A_Detox]

    The vast majority of Islam has a positive impact on people's lives. Tying Muslims to terrorism is the same as tying Christians to terrorism. 

    Sure the Middle East is in complete chaos but nobody is more responsible for that chaos than the United States. 

    [/Quote

    its been in chaos before the united states ever existed you dummy
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    [Quote: Originally Posted by I_Need_A_Detox]

    The vast majority of Islam has a positive impact on people's lives. Tying Muslims to terrorism is the same as tying Christians to terrorism. 

    Sure the Middle East is in complete chaos but nobody is more responsible for that chaos than the United States. 

    [/Quote

    its been in chaos before the united states ever existed you dummy
     
     
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    Posted: Aug. 25, 2015 - 7:32 PM ET #25

    There are plenty of Muslim countries ranked higher than the US on the Global Peace Index. Including a few from the Middle East.
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    There are plenty of Muslim countries ranked higher than the US on the Global Peace Index. Including a few from the Middle East.
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