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#26
Quote Originally Posted by Hugh_Jorgan:
THAT'S funny!You've been sober while posting on this site??? 
Meantime, Scal, check your email. Gotta question for you
Anyone Here Have Success w/ AA?
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#29
Quote Originally Posted by The Hawk:
Nice going, BW!
Nice going, BW!
With the money saved on booze and smoking, I can only BET on what your spending all the money on.......................GL!
I actually figured a fairly conservative estimate of what I used to spend going out 3-4 times per week, plus tipping and carry out food. It was a pretty disgusting amount.....
And a clear head does help when gambling.... impulse control 
Now I just bank my extra cash and blow a little on baseball cards and electronics. At least I have something to show for it other than a hangover and a cough.
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#31
Quote Originally Posted by Drizle:
For years I wanted to quit but never understood how I would be able to. It was a consistent cycle of spinning my wheels. At best I could maybe go a week. A friend of mine who was going through AA at the time gave me the Big Book. I didn't agree with all that was written in there but I did find a lot of relatable material. i also found a AA website that I used to read constantly. I never went to an AA meeting, but there were certain things that just started to click in my head and made sense. One of the major points was that I can't drink like a normal person. My body and brain does not have the mechanism anymore to say you need to stop. I may have had that at one time, but it became later that I would only stop when I passed out or ran out of booze and the stores were closed.
Congrats For years I wanted to quit but never understood how I would be able to. It was a consistent cycle of spinning my wheels. At best I could maybe go a week. A friend of mine who was going through AA at the time gave me the Big Book. I didn't agree with all that was written in there but I did find a lot of relatable material. i also found a AA website that I used to read constantly. I never went to an AA meeting, but there were certain things that just started to click in my head and made sense. One of the major points was that I can't drink like a normal person. My body and brain does not have the mechanism anymore to say you need to stop. I may have had that at one time, but it became later that I would only stop when I passed out or ran out of booze and the stores were closed.
Now I'm coming up on 4 years sober. It was a lot of work but its certainly doable. For months at the beginning, the brain tries to rationalize every which way to get the booze back in your system.
Best of luck to your cousin if/when/however he decides to tackle it.
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#32
Quote Originally Posted by Hugh_Jorgan:
You've been sober while posting on this site???
That's even more shocking! At least he would've had an excuse for his posts....
Anyways, to the OP, I've got a sister-in-law that's in the early stages of liver failure that refuses to put the bottle down because she doesn't thin she has a problem, and a brother who's been clean & sober for like 3 years now and doing great. But like everyone's been saying, if they don't want the help, there's really nothing you can do. Watch a couple of those episodes of "Intervention" I think it's on A&E. Seems like 90% of them end up forcing the addict to rehab, and then at the end of the show there's a line saying, "So-And-So checked themselves out, and are currently back with whoever doing the same thing"
Good luck with your situation.....
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#35
Quote Originally Posted by searchwarrant:
Project Zero I've heard very good things about. AA I understand requires you to declare yourself totally helpless and over powered. Essentially stripping all dignity away from people. Personally I'm not cool with their methods and maybe your cousin isn't either.
Project Zero I've heard very good things about. AA I understand requires you to declare yourself totally helpless and over powered. Essentially stripping all dignity away from people. Personally I'm not cool with their methods and maybe your cousin isn't either.
You have no clue what you're talking about and yet you have a strong opinion. Nothing new here.
Go to a few meetings with him, have a cup of coffee, take a seat, listen and if anyone tries to make you do anything tell them to fuc off.
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#36
Out patient - It sounds like your cousin is beyond the scope of this option.
In patient - This option will reduce his access to alcohol, but the people there with him will not be as dedicated as AA members. I worked at a rehab in Vermont and the state uses rehabs as jail-lite.
Very expensive, $200+ per day, but they would do payments
AA - He will still have access making a relapse much easier to occur.
$1 per meeting unless you don't have a dollar, then its free.
A few random thoughts:
At some point all three are going to tell him to stop associating with you, because you drink. Have you considered stopping?
Alcoholism and alcohol abuse are not the same thing. Many college students abuse alcohol, but they are not alcoholics.
I do not have an exact percentage, but my guess is that about a third of people in rehab were self medicating. They had untreated psyche/social problems, and were coping with drugs or alcohol.
Perhaps your cousin should see a counselor.
Eventually, all addicts stop using by one of three methods: recovery,prison,death.
In patient - This option will reduce his access to alcohol, but the people there with him will not be as dedicated as AA members. I worked at a rehab in Vermont and the state uses rehabs as jail-lite.
Very expensive, $200+ per day, but they would do payments
AA - He will still have access making a relapse much easier to occur.
$1 per meeting unless you don't have a dollar, then its free.
A few random thoughts:
At some point all three are going to tell him to stop associating with you, because you drink. Have you considered stopping?
Alcoholism and alcohol abuse are not the same thing. Many college students abuse alcohol, but they are not alcoholics.
I do not have an exact percentage, but my guess is that about a third of people in rehab were self medicating. They had untreated psyche/social problems, and were coping with drugs or alcohol.
Perhaps your cousin should see a counselor.
Eventually, all addicts stop using by one of three methods: recovery,prison,death.
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#39
Quote Originally Posted by searchwarrant:
The whole rehab process statistically has a 5% rate of success. You really have to want to stop and that doesn't sound like the case.
The whole rehab process statistically has a 5% rate of success. You really have to want to stop and that doesn't sound like the case.
Guy that lives next to me just left an hour ago for is THIRD trip to detox and inpatient rehab. He won't make it to 45.
Full of BS. Completely.
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#41
Quote Originally Posted by guyhi:
The real question is , why would you want to be sober ?
The real question is , why would you want to be sober ?
I used to think the same way when I was in my younger 20s.
Drinking to the point of blacking out gets old real fast. I like being sober.
Unfortunately for my cousin he doesn't. He's been arrested twice since I started this thread nearly 2 months ago. The guy is in rehab right now, which is for the best.
The problem is how he will be able to stay away when he has easy access to a liquor store when he gets out in 2.5 weeks. $9 k down the drain if that's the case. Those b!tches are expensive.
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#42
May best for your relative is what we called shock therapy, that is basically showing him how people end when they have a strong dependency on something. It is also good idea to talk with him about the addiction itself; does he do it to forget something? to feel better? to be happy? then it will be easier to find a solution.
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