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    145 Black Churches Burned From 1995-1996

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    I_Need_A_Detox
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    Posted: Jul. 4, 2015 - 9:10 AM ET #1

    "We looked at the Church Arson Task Force 2000 Report to see when and where the fires were set. We mapped out every instance of arson at a predominantly black church investigated by the task force between 1995 and 1996:" 

    https://www.pri.org/stories/2015-07-02/fire-last-time-1990s-wave-145-church-burnings-map


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    To remove first post, remove entire topic.
    "We looked at the Church Arson Task Force 2000 Report to see when and where the fires were set. We mapped out every instance of arson at a predominantly black church investigated by the task force between 1995 and 1996:" 

    https://www.pri.org/stories/2015-07-02/fire-last-time-1990s-wave-145-church-burnings-map


     
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    Posted: Jul. 4, 2015 - 9:54 AM ET #2

    Of the 145 fires at African-American houses of worship that were investigated from 1995-99, the task force reported that whites made up 63 percent of those arrested. Thirty-six percent were African-American, and under 1 percent were Hispanic.

    So ,,this article tells me ,,that although blacks Americans are 12.3 % of the population..they commit three times as many church fires as whites by percent of the population----as the white arrest percentage is about equal to their percent of the population ...very telling article ..thanks.

    #Blackarsonistmatter

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    Of the 145 fires at African-American houses of worship that were investigated from 1995-99, the task force reported that whites made up 63 percent of those arrested. Thirty-six percent were African-American, and under 1 percent were Hispanic.

    So ,,this article tells me ,,that although blacks Americans are 12.3 % of the population..they commit three times as many church fires as whites by percent of the population----as the white arrest percentage is about equal to their percent of the population ...very telling article ..thanks.

    #Blackarsonistmatter

     
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    Posted: Jul. 4, 2015 - 11:44 AM ET #3

    Detox, don't bother.

    Look at who you are dealing with here...

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    Detox, don't bother.

    Look at who you are dealing with here...

     
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    Posted: Jul. 4, 2015 - 1:38 PM ET #4

    Happy 4th of July Scal Sharpton!

    Although for you this holiday is probably about as happy as another birthday of an Uncle you hate and can't wait to see die
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    Happy 4th of July Scal Sharpton!

    Although for you this holiday is probably about as happy as another birthday of an Uncle you hate and can't wait to see die
     
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    Posted: Jul. 4, 2015 - 1:42 PM ET #5

    The sentence should've been increased to Life in Prison...


    And what is the point here Detox? We all know you've recently been Born Again with your support of the Pope (on issues that you support of course being part of the hypocritical left). If he speaks about abortion or same sex marriage, he gets discounted and you wave your Separation of Church & State flag.

    Do you actually believe conservatives high-five each when a house of worship gets burned to the ground? Please believe we condemn it completely, unlike when you see the riots burning cities and attacking the police for losers like Brown & Gray.

    Happy 4th of July. I'd refuse to recognize it as "Independence Day" any longer because it should be recognized as "Dependence Day" with 50M on food stamps under your Socialist president.


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    The sentence should've been increased to Life in Prison...


    And what is the point here Detox? We all know you've recently been Born Again with your support of the Pope (on issues that you support of course being part of the hypocritical left). If he speaks about abortion or same sex marriage, he gets discounted and you wave your Separation of Church & State flag.

    Do you actually believe conservatives high-five each when a house of worship gets burned to the ground? Please believe we condemn it completely, unlike when you see the riots burning cities and attacking the police for losers like Brown & Gray.

    Happy 4th of July. I'd refuse to recognize it as "Independence Day" any longer because it should be recognized as "Dependence Day" with 50M on food stamps under your Socialist president.


     
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    Posted: Jul. 4, 2015 - 3:56 PM ET #6

    "Dependence Day" ...........lol

    Is it any wonder,, that ever since President Barack Hussein Obama took office less Americans are proud to be an American ?  Less pride in being American than ever.............sad ..so sad.

    Only 54% of Americans are extremely proud of being Americans and it's of no surprise that of the Democrats only 47% were extremely proud of our country......47% ..hmmmm could that be the 47% Mitt Romney was referring to before the 2012 election?

    Since, President Obama tears down America ( esp.when he's abroad) at ever chance he gets ..and doesn't not champion Amercia's greatness,, only apologizes for America's past actions and bows to every foreign leader ..it is hard for low-info Americans to appreciate this nations abundance..

    What America needs is a new Leader.. one who can make all Americans want to party like it's "1776" ...
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    "Dependence Day" ...........lol

    Is it any wonder,, that ever since President Barack Hussein Obama took office less Americans are proud to be an American ?  Less pride in being American than ever.............sad ..so sad.

    Only 54% of Americans are extremely proud of being Americans and it's of no surprise that of the Democrats only 47% were extremely proud of our country......47% ..hmmmm could that be the 47% Mitt Romney was referring to before the 2012 election?

    Since, President Obama tears down America ( esp.when he's abroad) at ever chance he gets ..and doesn't not champion Amercia's greatness,, only apologizes for America's past actions and bows to every foreign leader ..it is hard for low-info Americans to appreciate this nations abundance..

    What America needs is a new Leader.. one who can make all Americans want to party like it's "1776" ...
     
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    Posted: Jul. 4, 2015 - 4:16 PM ET #7

    Quote Originally Posted by SarasotaSlim:

    Of the 145 fires at African-American houses of worship that were investigated from 1995-99, the task force reported that whites made up 63 percent of those arrested. Thirty-six percent were African-American, and under 1 percent were Hispanic.

    So ,,this article tells me ,,that although blacks Americans are 12.3 % of the population..they commit three times as many church fires as whites by percent of the population----as the white arrest percentage is about equal to their percent of the population ...very telling article ..thanks.

    #Blackarsonistmatter


    Hey brah... maybe you forgot... Liberals don't speak the language of facts.  What were you thinking?
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    Quote Originally Posted by SarasotaSlim:

    Of the 145 fires at African-American houses of worship that were investigated from 1995-99, the task force reported that whites made up 63 percent of those arrested. Thirty-six percent were African-American, and under 1 percent were Hispanic.

    So ,,this article tells me ,,that although blacks Americans are 12.3 % of the population..they commit three times as many church fires as whites by percent of the population----as the white arrest percentage is about equal to their percent of the population ...very telling article ..thanks.

    #Blackarsonistmatter


    Hey brah... maybe you forgot... Liberals don't speak the language of facts.  What were you thinking?
     
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    Posted: Jul. 5, 2015 - 12:33 AM ET #8

    Certain towns around the country are known as 'arson capitals'.

    Corinth, Mississippi is one, Cairo, Illinois is another. Were any of those churches in those town or other towns with the same rep? Would make for skewed data, no?

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    Certain towns around the country are known as 'arson capitals'.

    Corinth, Mississippi is one, Cairo, Illinois is another. Were any of those churches in those town or other towns with the same rep? Would make for skewed data, no?

     
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    Posted: Jul. 5, 2015 - 12:38 AM ET #9

    Detroit is the arson capital. 
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    Detroit is the arson capital. 
     
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    Posted: Jul. 5, 2015 - 11:44 AM ET #10

    https://denver.cbslocal.com/2015/06/30/suspect-arrested-after-racist-message-discovered-outside-church/

    What do you have to say about this.  This is like what happens at tea party events.  They plant a fake person in the crowd that says racist things and then the tea party is labeled racist. 
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    https://denver.cbslocal.com/2015/06/30/suspect-arrested-after-racist-message-discovered-outside-church/

    What do you have to say about this.  This is like what happens at tea party events.  They plant a fake person in the crowd that says racist things and then the tea party is labeled racist. 
     
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    Posted: Jul. 5, 2015 - 11:47 AM ET #11

    Quote Originally Posted by Slovak:



    Yep. That is pretty much what I got out of this as well. Blacks have a higher tendency to burn things.

    Detox, you should really research your material and think about it  a little more before posting it.
      This guy is unbelievable.  
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    Quote Originally Posted by Slovak:



    Yep. That is pretty much what I got out of this as well. Blacks have a higher tendency to burn things.

    Detox, you should really research your material and think about it  a little more before posting it.
      This guy is unbelievable.  
     
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    Posted: Jul. 5, 2015 - 12:04 PM ET #12

    1995 - 1999: 

    Federal, state, and local authorities arrested 364 defendants in connection with 294 of the 827 incidents that the Task Force has investigated. 

    Of the 364 persons arrested, 301 are Caucasian, 55 are African American and 8 are Hispanic. Of the 119 suspects arrested for arsons at African American churches, 75 are Caucasian, 43 are African American and 1 is Hispanic. Of the 240 suspects arrested for arsons at non African American churches, 221 are Caucasian, 12 are African American and 7 are Hispanic. 

    1995-1996: 

    145 fires at African American churches. 115 out of 145 happened in South. 
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    1995 - 1999: 

    Federal, state, and local authorities arrested 364 defendants in connection with 294 of the 827 incidents that the Task Force has investigated. 

    Of the 364 persons arrested, 301 are Caucasian, 55 are African American and 8 are Hispanic. Of the 119 suspects arrested for arsons at African American churches, 75 are Caucasian, 43 are African American and 1 is Hispanic. Of the 240 suspects arrested for arsons at non African American churches, 221 are Caucasian, 12 are African American and 7 are Hispanic. 

    1995-1996: 

    145 fires at African American churches. 115 out of 145 happened in South. 
     
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    Posted: Jul. 5, 2015 - 12:16 PM ET #13

    Quote Originally Posted by SarasotaSlim:

    Of the 145 fires at African-American houses of worship that were investigated from 1995-99, the task force reported that whites made up 63 percent of those arrested. Thirty-six percent were African-American, and under 1 percent were Hispanic.

    So ,,this article tells me ,,that although blacks Americans are 12.3 % of the population..they commit three times as many church fires as whites by percent of the population----as the white arrest percentage is about equal to their percent of the population ...very telling article ..thanks.

    #Blackarsonistmatter


    In the communities (or states) where the arson took place African Americans make up a much larger percent of the population. The population in Montana, Idaho, Wyoming, Utah, Nebraska, Alaska, New Mexico, Oregon, Vermont, NH, Maine, Iowa, North Dakota, South Dakota, etc., isn't relevant. 

    Out of the four regions in this great country there is one region that dominates the lists - you guessed it, THE SOUTH. 

    What's wrong with the people in the South? Is it the lack of education? Is it the inability to earn a decent wage? 

    Why is there so much hatred in the South? 
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    Quote Originally Posted by SarasotaSlim:

    Of the 145 fires at African-American houses of worship that were investigated from 1995-99, the task force reported that whites made up 63 percent of those arrested. Thirty-six percent were African-American, and under 1 percent were Hispanic.

    So ,,this article tells me ,,that although blacks Americans are 12.3 % of the population..they commit three times as many church fires as whites by percent of the population----as the white arrest percentage is about equal to their percent of the population ...very telling article ..thanks.

    #Blackarsonistmatter


    In the communities (or states) where the arson took place African Americans make up a much larger percent of the population. The population in Montana, Idaho, Wyoming, Utah, Nebraska, Alaska, New Mexico, Oregon, Vermont, NH, Maine, Iowa, North Dakota, South Dakota, etc., isn't relevant. 

    Out of the four regions in this great country there is one region that dominates the lists - you guessed it, THE SOUTH. 

    What's wrong with the people in the South? Is it the lack of education? Is it the inability to earn a decent wage? 

    Why is there so much hatred in the South? 
     
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    Posted: Jul. 5, 2015 - 12:29 PM ET #14

    Detox, are you white?  I'm just curious.  Because you talk a lot about all these race issues and it just boggles my mind. I know Scal is white.   I'm just trying to understand where you are coming from and why you are worried about all of this stuff. 
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    Detox, are you white?  I'm just curious.  Because you talk a lot about all these race issues and it just boggles my mind. I know Scal is white.   I'm just trying to understand where you are coming from and why you are worried about all of this stuff. 
     
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    Quote Originally Posted by JEFFMARKETCAP:

    Detox, are you white?  I'm just curious.  Because you talk a lot about all these race issues and it just boggles my mind. I know Scal is white.   I'm just trying to understand where you are coming from and why you are worried about all of this stuff. 

    What difference does it make? 

    Why is there so much hatred in the South? 

    Oklahoma, Mississippi, Alabama, Kentucky, Louisiana, etc., are very undereducated states. 

    Do you think racism is tied to low iq's or low educational attainment? 
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    Quote Originally Posted by JEFFMARKETCAP:

    Detox, are you white?  I'm just curious.  Because you talk a lot about all these race issues and it just boggles my mind. I know Scal is white.   I'm just trying to understand where you are coming from and why you are worried about all of this stuff. 

    What difference does it make? 

    Why is there so much hatred in the South? 

    Oklahoma, Mississippi, Alabama, Kentucky, Louisiana, etc., are very undereducated states. 

    Do you think racism is tied to low iq's or low educational attainment? 
     
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    Posted: Jul. 5, 2015 - 1:17 PM ET #16

    Quote Originally Posted by I_Need_A_Detox:


    What difference does it make? 

    Why is there so much hatred in the South? 

    Oklahoma, Mississippi, Alabama, Kentucky, Louisiana, etc., are very undereducated states. 

    Do you think racism is tied to low iq's or low educational attainment? 
    Ok that answers the question.  You are white.  You should stop worrying about these things. It doesn't make any sense.  
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    Quote Originally Posted by I_Need_A_Detox:


    What difference does it make? 

    Why is there so much hatred in the South? 

    Oklahoma, Mississippi, Alabama, Kentucky, Louisiana, etc., are very undereducated states. 

    Do you think racism is tied to low iq's or low educational attainment? 
    Ok that answers the question.  You are white.  You should stop worrying about these things. It doesn't make any sense.  
     
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    Quote Originally Posted by SarasotaSlim:

    Of the 145 fires at African-American houses of worship that were investigated from 1995-99, the task force reported that whites made up 63 percent of those arrested. Thirty-six percent were African-American, and under 1 percent were Hispanic.

    So ,,this article tells me ,,that although blacks Americans are 12.3 % of the population..they commit three times as many church fires as whites by percent of the population----as the white arrest percentage is about equal to their percent of the population ...very telling article ..thanks.

    #Blackarsonistmatter


    Great point Slim.  

    Detox, you're nothing more than a Liberal M@sshole who doesn't think their sh!t stinks.

    You Liberals are running this great nation in the gutter.  Elitist @ssholes who don't appreciate the value of a dollar because most of you pricks have been given everything your whole life.

    Call me a Neo-con or whatever, but you Liberal F@gs know how to spend money.  When the Sh!t hits the fan, you little snobs go running for the hills.  

    True story.    
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    Quote Originally Posted by SarasotaSlim:

    Of the 145 fires at African-American houses of worship that were investigated from 1995-99, the task force reported that whites made up 63 percent of those arrested. Thirty-six percent were African-American, and under 1 percent were Hispanic.

    So ,,this article tells me ,,that although blacks Americans are 12.3 % of the population..they commit three times as many church fires as whites by percent of the population----as the white arrest percentage is about equal to their percent of the population ...very telling article ..thanks.

    #Blackarsonistmatter


    Great point Slim.  

    Detox, you're nothing more than a Liberal M@sshole who doesn't think their sh!t stinks.

    You Liberals are running this great nation in the gutter.  Elitist @ssholes who don't appreciate the value of a dollar because most of you pricks have been given everything your whole life.

    Call me a Neo-con or whatever, but you Liberal F@gs know how to spend money.  When the Sh!t hits the fan, you little snobs go running for the hills.  

    True story.    
     
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    Quote Originally Posted by Slobbasaurus:


    Great point Slim.  

    Detox, you're nothing more than a Liberal M@sshole who doesn't think their sh!t stinks.

    You Liberals are running this great nation in the gutter.  Elitist @ssholes who don't appreciate the value of a dollar because most of you pricks have been given everything your whole life.

    Call me a Neo-con or whatever, but you Liberal F@gs know how to spend money.  When the Sh!t hits the fan, you little snobs go running for the hills.  

    True story.    

    Where are you getting your information from? Is this another opinion of someone that watches the evening news a couple times per week? 

    Who is running the country into the ground? Blue states are thriving. I don't know how the flyover states are doing. 

    What is an example of people running for the hills? 

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    Quote Originally Posted by Slobbasaurus:


    Great point Slim.  

    Detox, you're nothing more than a Liberal M@sshole who doesn't think their sh!t stinks.

    You Liberals are running this great nation in the gutter.  Elitist @ssholes who don't appreciate the value of a dollar because most of you pricks have been given everything your whole life.

    Call me a Neo-con or whatever, but you Liberal F@gs know how to spend money.  When the Sh!t hits the fan, you little snobs go running for the hills.  

    True story.    

    Where are you getting your information from? Is this another opinion of someone that watches the evening news a couple times per week? 

    Who is running the country into the ground? Blue states are thriving. I don't know how the flyover states are doing. 

    What is an example of people running for the hills? 

     
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    I don't want to get off track here. I'm trying to figure out why there is so much hatred in the South. I've been studying this question for a few weeks now and the only answer seems to be the lack of education coupled with the inability to earn a decent wage. 

    What do you guys think? 
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    I don't want to get off track here. I'm trying to figure out why there is so much hatred in the South. I've been studying this question for a few weeks now and the only answer seems to be the lack of education coupled with the inability to earn a decent wage. 

    What do you guys think? 
     
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    Quote Originally Posted by I_Need_A_Detox:


    Where are you getting your information from? Is this another opinion of someone that watches the evening news a couple times per week? 

    Who is running the country into the ground? Blue states are thriving. I don't know how the flyover states are doing. 

    What is an example of people running for the hills? 


    Yeah, Mass and Jersey are thriving, hahaha. 

     Which blue states?  California?  They're our Greece.

    You need to Detox on that BS Liberal thinking.

    "I don't hate minorities!  I hate Liberals.......and Hippies!"    
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    Quote Originally Posted by I_Need_A_Detox:


    Where are you getting your information from? Is this another opinion of someone that watches the evening news a couple times per week? 

    Who is running the country into the ground? Blue states are thriving. I don't know how the flyover states are doing. 

    What is an example of people running for the hills? 


    Yeah, Mass and Jersey are thriving, hahaha. 

     Which blue states?  California?  They're our Greece.

    You need to Detox on that BS Liberal thinking.

    "I don't hate minorities!  I hate Liberals.......and Hippies!"    
     
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    Quote Originally Posted by Slobbasaurus:


    Yeah, Mass and Jersey are thriving, hahaha. 

     Which blue states?  California?  They're our Greece.

    You need to Detox on that BS Liberal thinking.

    "I don't hate minorities!  I hate Liberals.......and Hippies!"    

    What calculator are you using? Let me know and I'll explain it to you in words that you can understand. 
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    Quote Originally Posted by Slobbasaurus:


    Yeah, Mass and Jersey are thriving, hahaha. 

     Which blue states?  California?  They're our Greece.

    You need to Detox on that BS Liberal thinking.

    "I don't hate minorities!  I hate Liberals.......and Hippies!"    

    What calculator are you using? Let me know and I'll explain it to you in words that you can understand. 
     
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    Quote Originally Posted by I_Need_A_Detox:

    I don't want to get off track here. I'm trying to figure out why there is so much hatred in the South. I've been studying this question for a few weeks now and the only answer seems to be the lack of education coupled with the inability to earn a decent wage. 

    What do you guys think? 

    Typical liberal race-mongering..not unlike the sermons Obama listen to from Reverend Jeremiah Wright for over 20 years.....,

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    Quote Originally Posted by I_Need_A_Detox:

    I don't want to get off track here. I'm trying to figure out why there is so much hatred in the South. I've been studying this question for a few weeks now and the only answer seems to be the lack of education coupled with the inability to earn a decent wage. 

    What do you guys think? 

    Typical liberal race-mongering..not unlike the sermons Obama listen to from Reverend Jeremiah Wright for over 20 years.....,

     
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    Quote Originally Posted by I_Need_A_Detox:


    What calculator are you using? Let me know and I'll explain it to you in words that you can understand. 

    Standard scientific calculator, haha.

    What makes you think the blue state are doing better than the reds?  

    Calculate each state's debt and I promise you that the blue states are the reigning kings of spending and putting the taxpayer in debt.  You learn about this bullsh!t in public accounting.   

    California takes the cake!  NJ, where I'm from, is probably a close second.  Section 8 leeches all over this state.  

    You're just another punk Liberal.  
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    Quote Originally Posted by I_Need_A_Detox:


    What calculator are you using? Let me know and I'll explain it to you in words that you can understand. 

    Standard scientific calculator, haha.

    What makes you think the blue state are doing better than the reds?  

    Calculate each state's debt and I promise you that the blue states are the reigning kings of spending and putting the taxpayer in debt.  You learn about this bullsh!t in public accounting.   

    California takes the cake!  NJ, where I'm from, is probably a close second.  Section 8 leeches all over this state.  

    You're just another punk Liberal.  
     
     
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    Quote Originally Posted by Slobbasaurus:


    Standard scientific calculator, haha.

    What makes you think the blue state are doing better than the reds?  

    Calculate each state's debt and I promise you that the blue states are the reigning kings of spending and putting the taxpayer in debt.  You learn about this bullsh!t in public accounting.   

    California takes the cake!  NJ, where I'm from, is probably a close second.  Section 8 leeches all over this state.  

    You're just another punk Liberal.  

    I think Alaska is the worst at $40,000 per person. Arguing what state has the most debt is a terrible way to debate the subject. The US is supposedly $62 trillion in debt and North Korea is a few billion in debt. Catch my drift? 

    Why do I think blue states are doing better? Median income by state, median home value by state, average education level by state, where are the poorest counties, etc.. 

    People in blue states make more, are worth more and have better educations. 
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    Quote Originally Posted by Slobbasaurus:


    Standard scientific calculator, haha.

    What makes you think the blue state are doing better than the reds?  

    Calculate each state's debt and I promise you that the blue states are the reigning kings of spending and putting the taxpayer in debt.  You learn about this bullsh!t in public accounting.   

    California takes the cake!  NJ, where I'm from, is probably a close second.  Section 8 leeches all over this state.  

    You're just another punk Liberal.  

    I think Alaska is the worst at $40,000 per person. Arguing what state has the most debt is a terrible way to debate the subject. The US is supposedly $62 trillion in debt and North Korea is a few billion in debt. Catch my drift? 

    Why do I think blue states are doing better? Median income by state, median home value by state, average education level by state, where are the poorest counties, etc.. 

    People in blue states make more, are worth more and have better educations. 
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