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    What the F is the deal with Bovada?

    TheDrizzle77
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    TheDrizzle77
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    Posted: Sep. 3, 2012 - 4:09 PM ET #1

    Trying to get a $3000.00 check by courier payout and it has been a living hell since initially requested back on Aug. 28.  

    I faxed over that pathetic credit card verification form, they tell me we didn't receive it (after I called them 3 days later).  I took a photocopy picture of it and emailed it too them.  They email back that while I took pictures of every fucking credit card I ever used (front & back) and ID and that they received it, they still want the verification form filled out and emailed back.

    I copy & pasted the form to the email, filled out all the blanks and 2 days later...I call them...we need you to indent an image of your card with a pencil onto the verification form and send it as what I did was not valid.

    Should I scrap it and cut this up as a loss?  Has anybody else never received money from these dick-twisters?  
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    Trying to get a $3000.00 check by courier payout and it has been a living hell since initially requested back on Aug. 28.  

    I faxed over that pathetic credit card verification form, they tell me we didn't receive it (after I called them 3 days later).  I took a photocopy picture of it and emailed it too them.  They email back that while I took pictures of every fucking credit card I ever used (front & back) and ID and that they received it, they still want the verification form filled out and emailed back.

    I copy & pasted the form to the email, filled out all the blanks and 2 days later...I call them...we need you to indent an image of your card with a pencil onto the verification form and send it as what I did was not valid.

    Should I scrap it and cut this up as a loss?  Has anybody else never received money from these dick-twisters?  
     
    Kelly_Slater
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    Posted: Sep. 3, 2012 - 4:24 PM ET #2

    You will get your money - just finish the last request and it will come DHL


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    You will get your money - just finish the last request and it will come DHL


     
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    Posted: Sep. 3, 2012 - 4:45 PM ET #3

    I have been through it, You will get your money after you jump through about 2 more hoops,,,they never verify deposits,,,but is living hell to collect. I had to get a statement from my bank on a letterhead with notarized signature. I miss the old days.
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    I have been through it, You will get your money after you jump through about 2 more hoops,,,they never verify deposits,,,but is living hell to collect. I had to get a statement from my bank on a letterhead with notarized signature. I miss the old days.
     
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    Posted: Sep. 3, 2012 - 5:20 PM ET #4

    3k in bovada. good luck my friend.

    you'll need all the luck u can get. 
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    3k in bovada. good luck my friend.

    you'll need all the luck u can get. 
     
    TheDrizzle77
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    Posted: Sep. 3, 2012 - 5:37 PM ET #5

    Don't understand why I chose the latter with accounts at Bookmaker, 5Dimes and Bovada.  Never had a problem with anybody but Bovada.

    I just turned in about 20 pictures via email of every verification combination possible.  Hopefully they accept it this time. 
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    Don't understand why I chose the latter with accounts at Bookmaker, 5Dimes and Bovada.  Never had a problem with anybody but Bovada.

    I just turned in about 20 pictures via email of every verification combination possible.  Hopefully they accept it this time. 
     
    SALTY
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    Posted: Sep. 3, 2012 - 6:09 PM ET #6

    Tip to those looking for looking to play somewhere. Do not go to Oddmaker! They are fucked up. I got my account locked and Tony the jerkoff head of security locks up my account after I deposited a measly 25 bucks. Of course they originally kept my 25 bucks for my security benefit

    I actually have dealt with guy before and he makes threats that they can't back up but he sure sounds official. 
    He will send you emails sounding like a tough guy. He used to be at betonusa about 10 years ago when that site was running and he did the same shit back then he is doing now.

    I made a deposit that went through with my girlfriends CC with her permission of course. I wake up the next morning to these emails.....Of course with me waking up to play but discovering my account is locked.



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    Tip to those looking for looking to play somewhere. Do not go to Oddmaker! They are fucked up. I got my account locked and Tony the jerkoff head of security locks up my account after I deposited a measly 25 bucks. Of course they originally kept my 25 bucks for my security benefit

    I actually have dealt with guy before and he makes threats that they can't back up but he sure sounds official. 
    He will send you emails sounding like a tough guy. He used to be at betonusa about 10 years ago when that site was running and he did the same shit back then he is doing now.

    I made a deposit that went through with my girlfriends CC with her permission of course. I wake up the next morning to these emails.....Of course with me waking up to play but discovering my account is locked.



     
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    Posted: Sep. 3, 2012 - 6:10 PM ET #7

    From: Tony Massina <tony@oddsmaker.ag>
    To: Me
    Sent: Monday, June 4, 2012 9:37 AM
    Subject: From Tony Massina, Oddsmaker.ag Head of Security & Fraud
     
    WHEN CAN WE EXPECT THE DOCUMENTS FOR THE CARD IN HER NAME?
     
    Tony Massina
    Head of Security & Fraud

    From: Me
    Sent: Monday, June 04, 2012 11:13 AM
    To: Tony Massina
    Subject: Re: From Tony Massina, Oddsmaker.ag Head of Security & Fraud
     
    I do not know why my account is now not active? I made a measley $25 deposit with my live in girlfriend last night to play a small poker tourney. The cashier had no issue taking my deposit as usual.( Check my account history and you will see probably 15+deposits with NO WITHDRAWLS.) 
    I understand the verification process if a withdrawl is made but to lock my account up over 25 bucks and I have been nothing but a great losing player when I do play poker at your site. Last night I gave any info needed to verify correct banking info etc to show my transaction was valid which it was. 
    I do not have a fax machine and I do not see it necessary to get all these documents to play 25 bucks with a deposit that is already approved. Sure, if I get in a win a tourney and hit a few games or something then sure......I could see getting all those documents to oddsmaker but to just play for about an hour, I am not making her go out of her way to send that so I can lose real quick. 
     
    My transaction was valid and I should be allowed to play poker like I originally intended.
    Thank you


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    From: Tony Massina <tony@oddsmaker.ag>
    To: Me
    Sent: Monday, June 4, 2012 9:37 AM
    Subject: From Tony Massina, Oddsmaker.ag Head of Security & Fraud
     
    WHEN CAN WE EXPECT THE DOCUMENTS FOR THE CARD IN HER NAME?
     
    Tony Massina
    Head of Security & Fraud

    From: Me
    Sent: Monday, June 04, 2012 11:13 AM
    To: Tony Massina
    Subject: Re: From Tony Massina, Oddsmaker.ag Head of Security & Fraud
     
    I do not know why my account is now not active? I made a measley $25 deposit with my live in girlfriend last night to play a small poker tourney. The cashier had no issue taking my deposit as usual.( Check my account history and you will see probably 15+deposits with NO WITHDRAWLS.) 
    I understand the verification process if a withdrawl is made but to lock my account up over 25 bucks and I have been nothing but a great losing player when I do play poker at your site. Last night I gave any info needed to verify correct banking info etc to show my transaction was valid which it was. 
    I do not have a fax machine and I do not see it necessary to get all these documents to play 25 bucks with a deposit that is already approved. Sure, if I get in a win a tourney and hit a few games or something then sure......I could see getting all those documents to oddsmaker but to just play for about an hour, I am not making her go out of her way to send that so I can lose real quick. 
     
    My transaction was valid and I should be allowed to play poker like I originally intended.
    Thank you


     
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    Posted: Sep. 3, 2012 - 6:10 PM ET #8

    The tough guy comes out in him now

    From: Tony Massina <tony@oddsmaker.ag>
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    Sent: Monday, June 4, 2012 10:17 AM
    Subject: RE: From Tony Massina, Oddsmaker.ag Head of Security & Fraud
     
    You will tell me what you need to do? Don’t think so. She can call me to verify your deposit this one time ONLY. Any other deposits you will need to send info. Account stays locked until I hear from her. She can even leave me a message.,
     
    Tony Massina
    Head of Security & Fraud

    Then after about 8 more emails and her calling him directly and he was not easy to get a hold of.......Tony unlocked my account then bad beats had me out in no time. He I think thinks I should suck his dick for the work he did.

    Fuck oddsmaker
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    The tough guy comes out in him now

    From: Tony Massina <tony@oddsmaker.ag>
    To: Me
    Sent: Monday, June 4, 2012 10:17 AM
    Subject: RE: From Tony Massina, Oddsmaker.ag Head of Security & Fraud
     
    You will tell me what you need to do? Don’t think so. She can call me to verify your deposit this one time ONLY. Any other deposits you will need to send info. Account stays locked until I hear from her. She can even leave me a message.,
     
    Tony Massina
    Head of Security & Fraud

    Then after about 8 more emails and her calling him directly and he was not easy to get a hold of.......Tony unlocked my account then bad beats had me out in no time. He I think thinks I should suck his dick for the work he did.

    Fuck oddsmaker
     
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    Posted: Sep. 3, 2012 - 6:35 PM ET #9

    Got an email that said Account verified.  Amen.  Now let's see how long it takes to get my money. 
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    Got an email that said Account verified.  Amen.  Now let's see how long it takes to get my money. 
     
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    Posted: Sep. 3, 2012 - 6:42 PM ET #10

    Quote Originally Posted by TheDrizzle77:

    Trying to get a $3000.00 check by courier payout and it has been a living hell since initially requested back on Aug. 28.  

    I faxed over that pathetic credit card verification form, they tell me we didn't receive it (after I called them 3 days later).  I took a photocopy picture of it and emailed it too them.  They email back that while I took pictures of every fucking credit card I ever used (front & back) and ID and that they received it, they still want the verification form filled out and emailed back.

    I copy & pasted the form to the email, filled out all the blanks and 2 days later...I call them...we need you to indent an image of your card with a pencil onto the verification form and send it as what I did was not valid.

    Should I scrap it and cut this up as a loss?  Has anybody else never received money from these dick-twisters?  
    Looks like they are staying true to form. 

    If you sent them your credit card, license and social security card they would still find a way not to pay you (SS card edges are frayed, signature on back of credit card is faded).

    Next time, deposit $20 and make a small bet to cash out with. Don't wait for a big deposit and/or big hit for your first cashout which they will literally make you lick their feet for.
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    Quote Originally Posted by TheDrizzle77:

    Trying to get a $3000.00 check by courier payout and it has been a living hell since initially requested back on Aug. 28.  

    I faxed over that pathetic credit card verification form, they tell me we didn't receive it (after I called them 3 days later).  I took a photocopy picture of it and emailed it too them.  They email back that while I took pictures of every fucking credit card I ever used (front & back) and ID and that they received it, they still want the verification form filled out and emailed back.

    I copy & pasted the form to the email, filled out all the blanks and 2 days later...I call them...we need you to indent an image of your card with a pencil onto the verification form and send it as what I did was not valid.

    Should I scrap it and cut this up as a loss?  Has anybody else never received money from these dick-twisters?  
    Looks like they are staying true to form. 

    If you sent them your credit card, license and social security card they would still find a way not to pay you (SS card edges are frayed, signature on back of credit card is faded).

    Next time, deposit $20 and make a small bet to cash out with. Don't wait for a big deposit and/or big hit for your first cashout which they will literally make you lick their feet for.
     
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    Posted: Sep. 4, 2012 - 11:27 PM ET #11

    I am living a nightmare with sportsbetting. They lose documents you send.. lastly disconnect you when they are pushed. I asked if they were gonna pay up!

    Stay away from these guys!!!

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    I am living a nightmare with sportsbetting. They lose documents you send.. lastly disconnect you when they are pushed. I asked if they were gonna pay up!

    Stay away from these guys!!!

     
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    Posted: Sep. 5, 2012 - 1:09 AM ET #12

    you may need a DNA sample with bovada but they always pay out <
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    you may need a DNA sample with bovada but they always pay out <
     
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    Posted: Sep. 5, 2012 - 2:45 PM ET #13

    ( Check my account history and you will see probably 15+deposits with NO WITHDRAWLS.) 
    I understand the verification process if a withdrawl is made but to lock my account up over 25 bucks and I have been nothing but a great losing player when I do play poker at your site.
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    ( Check my account history and you will see probably 15+deposits with NO WITHDRAWLS.) 
    I understand the verification process if a withdrawl is made but to lock my account up over 25 bucks and I have been nothing but a great losing player when I do play poker at your site.
    ______________
     
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    Posted: Sep. 5, 2012 - 2:51 PM ET #14

    Quote Originally Posted by HutchEmAll:

    ( Check my account history and you will see probably 15+deposits with NO WITHDRAWLS.) 
    I understand the verification process if a withdrawl is made but to lock my account up over 25 bucks and I have been nothing but a great losing player when I do play poker at your site.
    ______________



    Well that is the truth. Bad beat city but I am down about $600 at that damn site.
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    Quote Originally Posted by HutchEmAll:

    ( Check my account history and you will see probably 15+deposits with NO WITHDRAWLS.) 
    I understand the verification process if a withdrawl is made but to lock my account up over 25 bucks and I have been nothing but a great losing player when I do play poker at your site.
    ______________



    Well that is the truth. Bad beat city but I am down about $600 at that damn site.
     
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    Posted: Sep. 5, 2012 - 6:22 PM ET #15

    TheDrizzle77, i think it would be best for you to chalk this one up as a $3000 loss.  It's very unfortunate that people on here fail to realize what bovada brings to the table.  I myself cannot believe that they are a "A" rated book in the first place on the sportsbookreview.com website which is basically a sister website to this one.  I would have to believe that covers.com is getting a kickback from bovada.  

    Look at the track record that bovada has and realize that they are somehow affiliated with bodog.com.  Do you realize how much shit that bodog has brought to many people on here in the past?  I think it would be beneficial to search the handle on here called BodogBecky.  It should be very easy to find in the Gaming Industry - US section on these forums under GENERAL GAMING.  How many complaints do people have to come across before finally realizing that bovada might not be the best selection for your money online?  As Kelly_Slater says that you might have to provide a dna sample but you will get your money, in other words, if you keep badgering them for 6 months no worries, you'll get paid.  We are talking about getting slow paid here people, how long has bovada been in existance?  How the fuck can they have an "A" grade as it is right now when i don't think it's even been a year that they have been on the market?  Wouldn't that raise some flags for most of you intelligent people in here?  I absolutely do not understand why so many people here continue to use sites like bovada, for the same reason why i could NEVER understand why people kept using sportsinteraction.com back then when they had one of the worst complaints i had ever even kept hearing about.  

    So does bovada have some kind of 500% bonus program they use in order to entice people to keep depositing over there?  This is one of the worst fuckin' bullshit i can ever even think of besides Bobby Valentine leaving Jon Lester in a game July 22nd of this year despite him giving up 9 runs in less than 6 outs from the time the game started.  Jon Lester wounded up going 4 innings giving up 9 hits and 11 runs all of them earned.  

    BetOnline is another shady book that i question yet you never hear anything about bookmaker or betdsi.  Hell pinbet.com isn't even on the front page of the sbr website yet they have an "A+" of a grade, wake the fuck up people!  It's not my money but i'm sick and fuckin' tired of realizing we have some stupid ass fuckin' people on here who have a worst IQ than wendy the retard or high pitch eric.  It's unbelievable!  On top of that we have SALTY depositing with another person's credit card under his own poker account or whatever?  I would have at least called the poker house ahead of time, while he was still in the relationship with the girlfriend at the time to get everything squared and signed off before even laying a chip on that table.  Of course there's going to be bullshit after the fact and that's why we have people like Tony Massina!  Yeah he was probably a fuckin' jerk!  Call him an asshole all you want, but you know what, if you don't take care of business beforehand this is what you get.  Deal with it people, learn how to look above and beyond, is oddsmaker really at fault?  SALTY did you know that you could have probably asked your girlfriend to just call the credit card company to dispute the charges regarding the $25 or whatever?  Yes you can do shit like that but thank goodness you didn't.  And we all wonder why we have the mafia.  The "system" has been in place since people started fighting out on the streets, it's best not to fuck with anyone.  You live on with your experience and you learn.  Don't you ever wonder why people end up missing or the fact that there are so many unsolved mysteries?  Well i don't ever wonder about those anymore because there are some really stupid people with no intelligence on here who have no desire to even acquire intelligence.  I hope at least 51% of you who read this know where i am coming from and thank you for reading.
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    TheDrizzle77, i think it would be best for you to chalk this one up as a $3000 loss.  It's very unfortunate that people on here fail to realize what bovada brings to the table.  I myself cannot believe that they are a "A" rated book in the first place on the sportsbookreview.com website which is basically a sister website to this one.  I would have to believe that covers.com is getting a kickback from bovada.  

    Look at the track record that bovada has and realize that they are somehow affiliated with bodog.com.  Do you realize how much shit that bodog has brought to many people on here in the past?  I think it would be beneficial to search the handle on here called BodogBecky.  It should be very easy to find in the Gaming Industry - US section on these forums under GENERAL GAMING.  How many complaints do people have to come across before finally realizing that bovada might not be the best selection for your money online?  As Kelly_Slater says that you might have to provide a dna sample but you will get your money, in other words, if you keep badgering them for 6 months no worries, you'll get paid.  We are talking about getting slow paid here people, how long has bovada been in existance?  How the fuck can they have an "A" grade as it is right now when i don't think it's even been a year that they have been on the market?  Wouldn't that raise some flags for most of you intelligent people in here?  I absolutely do not understand why so many people here continue to use sites like bovada, for the same reason why i could NEVER understand why people kept using sportsinteraction.com back then when they had one of the worst complaints i had ever even kept hearing about.  

    So does bovada have some kind of 500% bonus program they use in order to entice people to keep depositing over there?  This is one of the worst fuckin' bullshit i can ever even think of besides Bobby Valentine leaving Jon Lester in a game July 22nd of this year despite him giving up 9 runs in less than 6 outs from the time the game started.  Jon Lester wounded up going 4 innings giving up 9 hits and 11 runs all of them earned.  

    BetOnline is another shady book that i question yet you never hear anything about bookmaker or betdsi.  Hell pinbet.com isn't even on the front page of the sbr website yet they have an "A+" of a grade, wake the fuck up people!  It's not my money but i'm sick and fuckin' tired of realizing we have some stupid ass fuckin' people on here who have a worst IQ than wendy the retard or high pitch eric.  It's unbelievable!  On top of that we have SALTY depositing with another person's credit card under his own poker account or whatever?  I would have at least called the poker house ahead of time, while he was still in the relationship with the girlfriend at the time to get everything squared and signed off before even laying a chip on that table.  Of course there's going to be bullshit after the fact and that's why we have people like Tony Massina!  Yeah he was probably a fuckin' jerk!  Call him an asshole all you want, but you know what, if you don't take care of business beforehand this is what you get.  Deal with it people, learn how to look above and beyond, is oddsmaker really at fault?  SALTY did you know that you could have probably asked your girlfriend to just call the credit card company to dispute the charges regarding the $25 or whatever?  Yes you can do shit like that but thank goodness you didn't.  And we all wonder why we have the mafia.  The "system" has been in place since people started fighting out on the streets, it's best not to fuck with anyone.  You live on with your experience and you learn.  Don't you ever wonder why people end up missing or the fact that there are so many unsolved mysteries?  Well i don't ever wonder about those anymore because there are some really stupid people with no intelligence on here who have no desire to even acquire intelligence.  I hope at least 51% of you who read this know where i am coming from and thank you for reading.
     
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    Posted: Sep. 8, 2012 - 1:37 AM ET #16

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    debbiek
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    Posted: Sep. 8, 2012 - 11:52 PM ET #17

    I always got paid from Bovada.  I only deposit thru moneygram so no hassles with verification documents, etc.  It may take a little longer, but I feel safe with them as they have never not paid.
    Reply
    I always got paid from Bovada.  I only deposit thru moneygram so no hassles with verification documents, etc.  It may take a little longer, but I feel safe with them as they have never not paid.
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