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    Kudos to Covers...First rate move by them!!!

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    camicom
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    Posted: Sep. 14, 2011 - 10:32 AM ET #1

    Kudos to Covers for addressing these issues concerning Topbet....First rate move by you guys. I love you more than ever now.....Peace
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    Kudos to Covers for addressing these issues concerning Topbet....First rate move by you guys. I love you more than ever now.....Peace
     
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    Posted: Sep. 15, 2011 - 10:18 AM ET #2

    camicom

    Here's a question for you, since you seem to represent a certain demographic on the site...

    Right now, we are seeing no reason not to reinstate Topbet.

    Bottom line, there's no evidence to support the stories posted elsewhere (other than a single phone number from several years ago), we have actually found several reasons to doubt the story, and nobody is coming forward to say they haven't been paid.

    Do you see any reason why we should not reinstate Topbet?

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    camicom

    Here's a question for you, since you seem to represent a certain demographic on the site...

    Right now, we are seeing no reason not to reinstate Topbet.

    Bottom line, there's no evidence to support the stories posted elsewhere (other than a single phone number from several years ago), we have actually found several reasons to doubt the story, and nobody is coming forward to say they haven't been paid.

    Do you see any reason why we should not reinstate Topbet?

     
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    Posted: Sep. 15, 2011 - 11:12 AM ET #3

    Freedom, why were canicom's threads from yesterday concerning this very issue removed from your site today? Canicom sure seems content today that you are addressing the issues he has with Topbet which makes no sense to me since the very questions he posed were removed. Also Brian Laverty chimed in on this issue yesterday and his thread has been removed also.
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    Freedom, why were canicom's threads from yesterday concerning this very issue removed from your site today? Canicom sure seems content today that you are addressing the issues he has with Topbet which makes no sense to me since the very questions he posed were removed. Also Brian Laverty chimed in on this issue yesterday and his thread has been removed also.
     
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    Posted: Sep. 15, 2011 - 11:52 AM ET #4

    h3llbent,

    Not sure, other than a general plan to keep similar topics consolidated in one place.

    The problem was there were suddenly several threads all repeating the same rumors that started on another site, and asking questions based upon those rumors.

    Anybody clicking on to the forum at that point in time would automatically make an assumption that Topbet was a scam site being operated by crooks using betEd's backend and all supported by Covers.

    None of which is turning out to be true.

    This is a totally unfair situation to a site, in this case Topbet, which suddenly finds itself getting slammed in a forum and accused of horrendous misdeeds based upon minimal evidence offered by a site that has been known to make up scandals to embarrass rivals and enemies.

    This situation caught us by surprise. We have been around this biz for a long time and know a lot of people, and nothing about Topbet had struck us as shady. But we don't know everything. So somebody made a decision to take down those posts while we investigated the situation. You know... innocent until proven guilty.

    Now we have investigated. We have talked to a number of knowledgeable industry people who might be familiar with Topbet and the people in question. Nobody we have talked to sees any connection or relevance. Everybody seems to agree that it's just a case of a bully trying to smear some former employees.

    In the meantime, my post at the top of this forum has been up for 24 hours and not one person has posted any stories of non-payment either.

    So, right now we are fully convinced that Topbet is solid and we are ready to reinstate them. It will probably happen within the next hour or so.

    However, there were a few people, notably camicon, who were very disturbed by the situation yesterday, and the question remains whether they still believe Topbet is a scam site.

    So I'm trying to reach out to these people and let them know the reasons for our decision, and to start the dialog now.

    My hope is that they don't log onto the site, see that Topbet has been reinstated, and then immediately start posting nasty threads without being fully aware of our side of the story.

    How's that sound?

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    h3llbent,

    Not sure, other than a general plan to keep similar topics consolidated in one place.

    The problem was there were suddenly several threads all repeating the same rumors that started on another site, and asking questions based upon those rumors.

    Anybody clicking on to the forum at that point in time would automatically make an assumption that Topbet was a scam site being operated by crooks using betEd's backend and all supported by Covers.

    None of which is turning out to be true.

    This is a totally unfair situation to a site, in this case Topbet, which suddenly finds itself getting slammed in a forum and accused of horrendous misdeeds based upon minimal evidence offered by a site that has been known to make up scandals to embarrass rivals and enemies.

    This situation caught us by surprise. We have been around this biz for a long time and know a lot of people, and nothing about Topbet had struck us as shady. But we don't know everything. So somebody made a decision to take down those posts while we investigated the situation. You know... innocent until proven guilty.

    Now we have investigated. We have talked to a number of knowledgeable industry people who might be familiar with Topbet and the people in question. Nobody we have talked to sees any connection or relevance. Everybody seems to agree that it's just a case of a bully trying to smear some former employees.

    In the meantime, my post at the top of this forum has been up for 24 hours and not one person has posted any stories of non-payment either.

    So, right now we are fully convinced that Topbet is solid and we are ready to reinstate them. It will probably happen within the next hour or so.

    However, there were a few people, notably camicon, who were very disturbed by the situation yesterday, and the question remains whether they still believe Topbet is a scam site.

    So I'm trying to reach out to these people and let them know the reasons for our decision, and to start the dialog now.

    My hope is that they don't log onto the site, see that Topbet has been reinstated, and then immediately start posting nasty threads without being fully aware of our side of the story.

    How's that sound?

     
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    Posted: Sep. 15, 2011 - 12:21 PM ET #5

    Sounds fair enough. I like your approach. Considering where canicoms source of information came from I don't blame you.
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    Sounds fair enough. I like your approach. Considering where canicoms source of information came from I don't blame you.
     
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    Posted: Sep. 15, 2011 - 7:26 PM ET #6

    Freedom...see reply in top topic....peace
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    Freedom...see reply in top topic....peace
     
     
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    Posted: Sep. 15, 2011 - 10:36 PM ET #7

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