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    Is online blackjack rigged?

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    steverino999
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    Posted: Feb. 14, 2015 - 4:24 PM ET #101

    I used to play a lot of live blackjack, and have probably seen every conceivable run of variance in both directions over the years. While traveling recently I had a lot of idle airport time to play online Blackjack at Sportsbook.ag, and I couldn't believe my bad luck. I went nearly an hour on two different occasions without the dealer ever busting holding 2, 3, 4, 5 or 6, which is simply unfathomable, and I couldn't help but wonder if "the fix was in". I was so adamant something was askew that I wrote SB a letter, which may (or may not?) explain why uncommon runs either way aren't that unusual common online:

    Dear Steve,

    Thank you for contacting us.

    Regarding your recent Casino inquiry, after checking your Blackjack history, we see you experienced a bad run recently but also profitable session. Unfortunately more losses than winnings but at this time your payout percentage stands at 97.67 which is within the 97-98% we advertise. 

    Remember our cards are dealt from a six deck shoe which is shuffled after every hand. This has to be so in order to prevent "card counting". So, if you can imagine that after every hand all the cards are back in the shoe again, it would be perfectly possible for you, or the dealer, to have a winning, losing and Blackjack hand many times in a row.

    Our casino software is monitored for fairness by reputable auditors, namely TST Technical Systems, who would report if our games were found to be fraudulent in any way. The odds for both the real money and play for fun modes in our casino games are created by a random number generator which resides on our server. These odds are audited by a third party to ensure they are being created in a fair and random manner. The software meets all the standards set by online gaming regulators.

     

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    I used to play a lot of live blackjack, and have probably seen every conceivable run of variance in both directions over the years. While traveling recently I had a lot of idle airport time to play online Blackjack at Sportsbook.ag, and I couldn't believe my bad luck. I went nearly an hour on two different occasions without the dealer ever busting holding 2, 3, 4, 5 or 6, which is simply unfathomable, and I couldn't help but wonder if "the fix was in". I was so adamant something was askew that I wrote SB a letter, which may (or may not?) explain why uncommon runs either way aren't that unusual common online:

    Dear Steve,

    Thank you for contacting us.

    Regarding your recent Casino inquiry, after checking your Blackjack history, we see you experienced a bad run recently but also profitable session. Unfortunately more losses than winnings but at this time your payout percentage stands at 97.67 which is within the 97-98% we advertise. 

    Remember our cards are dealt from a six deck shoe which is shuffled after every hand. This has to be so in order to prevent "card counting". So, if you can imagine that after every hand all the cards are back in the shoe again, it would be perfectly possible for you, or the dealer, to have a winning, losing and Blackjack hand many times in a row.

    Our casino software is monitored for fairness by reputable auditors, namely TST Technical Systems, who would report if our games were found to be fraudulent in any way. The odds for both the real money and play for fun modes in our casino games are created by a random number generator which resides on our server. These odds are audited by a third party to ensure they are being created in a fair and random manner. The software meets all the standards set by online gaming regulators.

     

     
    MNFLoser
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    Posted: Nov. 10, 2015 - 5:08 PM ET #102

    Funny as they sent me the same thing.  I tracked them on 100s of hands of blackjack betting $1 per hand.  My loss % was somewhere in the 70%+ but, here are the tells to cheating as I tracked two things 1) how often dealer got blackjack versus me and 2) how often dealer busted on a 5 or 6.

    Dealer had 3 to 1 blackjacks

    and dealer busted on a 5 or 6 13% of the time.  This happens on average 42% of the time.  So about a one in 25,000 probability.  Complete crap in terms of how the cards play out.  In fact, the dealer once hit 21 on 6s 2x in a row.  Hardly ever busts on hands that would lead to a bust.  Basically they make basic strategy useless.

    I then spent a little time playing Roulette figuring cheating would be too obvious for them here.  I incrementally increased the bet on odd,even,black,red,1-12 until my bet hit.  Rotating after hit.  It once went 18 spins on 1-12 while I doubled down chasing a 1-12,000 probability of not hitting.  I then backed off to half the double down and it hit.  It's all a scam and they spew out this lame response even when you send screen prints to show them.  I post here having spent about $50 of my money and have about 100 screen shots proving it to them. 

    AVOID LIKE THE PLAGUE

     

    Quote Originally Posted by steverino999:

    I used to play a lot of live blackjack, and have probably seen every conceivable run of variance in both directions over the years. While traveling recently I had a lot of idle airport time to play online Blackjack at Sportsbook.ag, and I couldn't believe my bad luck. I went nearly an hour on two different occasions without the dealer ever busting holding 2, 3, 4, 5 or 6, which is simply unfathomable, and I couldn't help but wonder if "the fix was in". I was so adamant something was askew that I wrote SB a letter, which may (or may not?) explain why uncommon runs either way aren't that unusual common online:

    Dear Steve,

    Thank you for contacting us.

    Regarding your recent Casino inquiry, after checking your Blackjack history, we see you experienced a bad run recently but also profitable session. Unfortunately more losses than winnings but at this time your payout percentage stands at 97.67 which is within the 97-98% we advertise. 

    Remember our cards are dealt from a six deck shoe which is shuffled after every hand. This has to be so in order to prevent "card counting". So, if you can imagine that after every hand all the cards are back in the shoe again, it would be perfectly possible for you, or the dealer, to have a winning, losing and Blackjack hand many times in a row.

    Our casino software is monitored for fairness by reputable auditors, namely TST Technical Systems, who would report if our games were found to be fraudulent in any way. The odds for both the real money and play for fun modes in our casino games are created by a random number generator which resides on our server. These odds are audited by a third party to ensure they are being created in a fair and random manner. The software meets all the standards set by online gaming regulators.

     

     

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    Funny as they sent me the same thing.  I tracked them on 100s of hands of blackjack betting $1 per hand.  My loss % was somewhere in the 70%+ but, here are the tells to cheating as I tracked two things 1) how often dealer got blackjack versus me and 2) how often dealer busted on a 5 or 6.

    Dealer had 3 to 1 blackjacks

    and dealer busted on a 5 or 6 13% of the time.  This happens on average 42% of the time.  So about a one in 25,000 probability.  Complete crap in terms of how the cards play out.  In fact, the dealer once hit 21 on 6s 2x in a row.  Hardly ever busts on hands that would lead to a bust.  Basically they make basic strategy useless.

    I then spent a little time playing Roulette figuring cheating would be too obvious for them here.  I incrementally increased the bet on odd,even,black,red,1-12 until my bet hit.  Rotating after hit.  It once went 18 spins on 1-12 while I doubled down chasing a 1-12,000 probability of not hitting.  I then backed off to half the double down and it hit.  It's all a scam and they spew out this lame response even when you send screen prints to show them.  I post here having spent about $50 of my money and have about 100 screen shots proving it to them. 

    AVOID LIKE THE PLAGUE

     

    Quote Originally Posted by steverino999:

    I used to play a lot of live blackjack, and have probably seen every conceivable run of variance in both directions over the years. While traveling recently I had a lot of idle airport time to play online Blackjack at Sportsbook.ag, and I couldn't believe my bad luck. I went nearly an hour on two different occasions without the dealer ever busting holding 2, 3, 4, 5 or 6, which is simply unfathomable, and I couldn't help but wonder if "the fix was in". I was so adamant something was askew that I wrote SB a letter, which may (or may not?) explain why uncommon runs either way aren't that unusual common online:

    Dear Steve,

    Thank you for contacting us.

    Regarding your recent Casino inquiry, after checking your Blackjack history, we see you experienced a bad run recently but also profitable session. Unfortunately more losses than winnings but at this time your payout percentage stands at 97.67 which is within the 97-98% we advertise. 

    Remember our cards are dealt from a six deck shoe which is shuffled after every hand. This has to be so in order to prevent "card counting". So, if you can imagine that after every hand all the cards are back in the shoe again, it would be perfectly possible for you, or the dealer, to have a winning, losing and Blackjack hand many times in a row.

    Our casino software is monitored for fairness by reputable auditors, namely TST Technical Systems, who would report if our games were found to be fraudulent in any way. The odds for both the real money and play for fun modes in our casino games are created by a random number generator which resides on our server. These odds are audited by a third party to ensure they are being created in a fair and random manner. The software meets all the standards set by online gaming regulators.

     

     

     
    MNFLoser
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    Posted: Nov. 11, 2015 - 1:39 PM ET #103

    I got a $50 credit for the casino today so thought I'd share how those hands went at sportsbook.ag

    18 times I had an 11 and double downed as dealer showed 10 or less I had zero 10s and 14 6 or less.  I won 1x when I double downed and the dealer busted.  The statistical probability of this is so small it's not even worth discussing.

    Blackjack count on the hands was 12 to 4 which is consistent with the 3:1 count it normally has had.

    Dealer 10x showed a 6 and busted 1x hitting 17 or better on all the other hands.

    Dealer 8x showed a 5 and busted twice hitting 21 4 of the 8 times (at most this should happen 1x on that sample size)

    Betting $1 hands on $50 of free casino credit took just 65 hands so basically the dealer won almost every time. 

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    I got a $50 credit for the casino today so thought I'd share how those hands went at sportsbook.ag

    18 times I had an 11 and double downed as dealer showed 10 or less I had zero 10s and 14 6 or less.  I won 1x when I double downed and the dealer busted.  The statistical probability of this is so small it's not even worth discussing.

    Blackjack count on the hands was 12 to 4 which is consistent with the 3:1 count it normally has had.

    Dealer 10x showed a 6 and busted 1x hitting 17 or better on all the other hands.

    Dealer 8x showed a 5 and busted twice hitting 21 4 of the 8 times (at most this should happen 1x on that sample size)

    Betting $1 hands on $50 of free casino credit took just 65 hands so basically the dealer won almost every time. 

     
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    Posted: Nov. 11, 2015 - 1:42 PM ET #104

    Again the above is SPORTSBOOK.ag #sportsbook.ag is a casino scam with 3:1 dealer blackjacks and virtually never busting on a 5 or 6

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    Again the above is SPORTSBOOK.ag #sportsbook.ag is a casino scam with 3:1 dealer blackjacks and virtually never busting on a 5 or 6

     
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    Posted: Jun. 20, 2018 - 6:51 PM ET #105

    Yes it is rigged all online gambling is rigged. Go live.
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    Yes it is rigged all online gambling is rigged. Go live.
     
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    Posted: Jul. 8, 2018 - 10:56 AM ET #106

    Quote Originally Posted by gus1689:

    don't do it...block it
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    Quote Originally Posted by gus1689:

    don't do it...block it
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    Posted: Oct. 20, 2018 - 4:56 PM ET #107

    The principle of the Danish betting strategy resembles the well-known strategy of Martingale, but the amount of bets in this case is not doubled every time, but grows in an arithmetic progression, which is much safer for a bankroll. But at the same time, after each losing bet, the player needs to do the next with a larger factor. Different strategies that help you play can be read on the https://neonslots.com/games portal about gambling.

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    The principle of the Danish betting strategy resembles the well-known strategy of Martingale, but the amount of bets in this case is not doubled every time, but grows in an arithmetic progression, which is much safer for a bankroll. But at the same time, after each losing bet, the player needs to do the next with a larger factor. Different strategies that help you play can be read on the https://neonslots.com/games portal about gambling.

     
     
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    Posted: Oct. 20, 2018 - 4:57 PM ET #108

    The principle of the Danish betting strategy resembles the well-known strategy of Martingale, but the amount of bets in this case is not doubled every time, but grows in an arithmetic progression, which is much safer for a bankroll. But at the same time, after each losing bet, the player needs to do the next with a larger factor. Different strategies that help you play can be read on the [url=https://neonslots.com/games]https://neonslots.com/games[/url] portal about gambling.

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    The principle of the Danish betting strategy resembles the well-known strategy of Martingale, but the amount of bets in this case is not doubled every time, but grows in an arithmetic progression, which is much safer for a bankroll. But at the same time, after each losing bet, the player needs to do the next with a larger factor. Different strategies that help you play can be read on the [url=https://neonslots.com/games]https://neonslots.com/games[/url] portal about gambling.

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