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    luckyjj
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    Posted: Feb. 26, 2014 - 8:59 PM ET #1

    Heritage sports are the biggest thieves in the sports betting arena.They blatenly stole money from me today.. Openly...If I were you id stay FAR AWAY from heritage, unless you do not value your money.
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    To remove first post, remove entire topic.
    Heritage sports are the biggest thieves in the sports betting arena.They blatenly stole money from me today.. Openly...If I were you id stay FAR AWAY from heritage, unless you do not value your money.
     
    BrianLaverty
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    Posted: Feb. 26, 2014 - 9:45 PM ET #2

    How did they steal your money when they graded the wager correctly?

    Lol

    You are such a moron. Everyone can see the sbr thread about how you were wrong from the start.

    Learn the rules to MLB if you are gonna bet it
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    How did they steal your money when they graded the wager correctly?

    Lol

    You are such a moron. Everyone can see the sbr thread about how you were wrong from the start.

    Learn the rules to MLB if you are gonna bet it
     
    luckyjj
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    Posted: Feb. 26, 2014 - 11:07 PM ET #3

    Heritage clearly stole my money.. Period..Even if you win your bet you have to be worried whether you will be credited for the win.. and then when you complain on the forums about it, they call your house and ask you to take it back and they will give you a freeplay..

     

     

    darn YOU TONY@HERITAGE.. ON EVERY FORUM... EVERYDAY... I WILL MAKE SURE EVERY FORUM ON EARTH HAS BEWARE OF HERITAGE THREADS ALL OVER THE NET!

     

    stay farrrrr away from these crooks and thieves!

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    Heritage clearly stole my money.. Period..Even if you win your bet you have to be worried whether you will be credited for the win.. and then when you complain on the forums about it, they call your house and ask you to take it back and they will give you a freeplay..

     

     

    darn YOU TONY@HERITAGE.. ON EVERY FORUM... EVERYDAY... I WILL MAKE SURE EVERY FORUM ON EARTH HAS BEWARE OF HERITAGE THREADS ALL OVER THE NET!

     

    stay farrrrr away from these crooks and thieves!

     
    BrianLaverty
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    Posted: Feb. 26, 2014 - 11:47 PM ET #4

    Stop lying.

    I advise everyone here to go look at the thread that this fool started on SBR.... where he even admits they graded the wager correctly!!


    Straight from OPs mouth:

    "
    Heritage did make up for my frustration and I thank them, But yes david that rule is more logical. I dont know how I can bet baseball this year with these kind of rules.. it really is mindblowing to me.
    "
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    Stop lying.

    I advise everyone here to go look at the thread that this fool started on SBR.... where he even admits they graded the wager correctly!!


    Straight from OPs mouth:

    "
    Heritage did make up for my frustration and I thank them, But yes david that rule is more logical. I dont know how I can bet baseball this year with these kind of rules.. it really is mindblowing to me.
    "
     
    phillycheeseman
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    Posted: Feb. 27, 2014 - 1:20 AM ET #5

    Brian,
    Accept my friend request.


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    Brian,
    Accept my friend request.


     
    luckyjj
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    Posted: Feb. 27, 2014 - 1:43 AM ET #6

    Hello everyone.. I am the OP that the former poster spoke of on SBR. Yes.. The wager was according to the rules a loss.. 

     

    For those who dont know, I bet the DET tigers to win ML and in the bottom of the 9th with 2 out  DET was up 6-5 and they called a rain delay, and the game ended.

    My account at first was credited as a win, however it was quickly overturned into a loss.. intially I was upset at that yes.....

    John from Heritage calls me and says that he will credit my account a win and close my account and send me the cash... I said I wanted my account to remain open. He said ok, he will give me freeplay if I "clean up" the thread. Fine what does "clean up the thread" mean?

    So I returned to the SBR thread and simply posted.. that I was wrong the rules do state I should lose.. and I mentioned that heritage was good to me to give me a freeplay..

     

    Few minutes lates the phones rings. Its John again and he sounded pretty irritated.. Said that in the forum I made it look like heritage was giving in to me.. or something like that..... He didnt like it and said my account was closed... he would credit the wager as a win and send me the money... FINE....

    Maybe he wanted me to change my opinion on the fact that THATS THE DUMBEST SPORTS RULE IN ALLLLLLL OF SPORTS PERIOD. IF IT RAINS YOU LOSE? even if you're UP IN THE BOTTOM OF THE 9TH?

    THATS COMPLETE BULLSHIT HERITAGE AND YOU KNOW IT

    I told them I will go to the authorities and report them for allowing Americans to wager on sports.

    FOR BEING SUCH person

    But I have decided I will not go to the authorites because many of you love to play there.

    I just honestly never knew heritage could be so shady, and low class.. and Yes.. I am upset.. I have a temper.. and the way they treated me.. a loyal customer.. IS COMPLETELY WRONG. 

    But I have decided to let the matter rest..But. I will say a one final darn YOU TO HERITAGE and find another place to play... darn YOU!!

     

     

     

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    Hello everyone.. I am the OP that the former poster spoke of on SBR. Yes.. The wager was according to the rules a loss.. 

     

    For those who dont know, I bet the DET tigers to win ML and in the bottom of the 9th with 2 out  DET was up 6-5 and they called a rain delay, and the game ended.

    My account at first was credited as a win, however it was quickly overturned into a loss.. intially I was upset at that yes.....

    John from Heritage calls me and says that he will credit my account a win and close my account and send me the cash... I said I wanted my account to remain open. He said ok, he will give me freeplay if I "clean up" the thread. Fine what does "clean up the thread" mean?

    So I returned to the SBR thread and simply posted.. that I was wrong the rules do state I should lose.. and I mentioned that heritage was good to me to give me a freeplay..

     

    Few minutes lates the phones rings. Its John again and he sounded pretty irritated.. Said that in the forum I made it look like heritage was giving in to me.. or something like that..... He didnt like it and said my account was closed... he would credit the wager as a win and send me the money... FINE....

    Maybe he wanted me to change my opinion on the fact that THATS THE DUMBEST SPORTS RULE IN ALLLLLLL OF SPORTS PERIOD. IF IT RAINS YOU LOSE? even if you're UP IN THE BOTTOM OF THE 9TH?

    THATS COMPLETE BULLSHIT HERITAGE AND YOU KNOW IT

    I told them I will go to the authorities and report them for allowing Americans to wager on sports.

    FOR BEING SUCH person

    But I have decided I will not go to the authorites because many of you love to play there.

    I just honestly never knew heritage could be so shady, and low class.. and Yes.. I am upset.. I have a temper.. and the way they treated me.. a loyal customer.. IS COMPLETELY WRONG. 

    But I have decided to let the matter rest..But. I will say a one final darn YOU TO HERITAGE and find another place to play... darn YOU!!

     

     

     

     
    Michael990
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    Posted: Feb. 27, 2014 - 2:35 AM ET #7

    You were dead wrong, heritage was right. And you look like a complete fool 
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    You were dead wrong, heritage was right. And you look like a complete fool 
     
    Michael990
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    Posted: Feb. 27, 2014 - 2:45 AM ET #8

    I think it's a great rule by the way. 
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    I think it's a great rule by the way. 
     
    joanne12
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    Posted: Feb. 27, 2014 - 8:22 AM ET #9

    Quote Originally Posted by luckyjj:

    Hello everyone.. I am the OP that the former poster spoke of on SBR. Yes.. The wager was according to the rules a loss.. 

     

    For those who dont know, I bet the DET tigers to win ML and in the bottom of the 9th with 2 out  DET was up 6-5 and they called a rain delay, and the game ended.

    My account at first was credited as a win, however it was quickly overturned into a loss.. intially I was upset at that yes.....

    John from Heritage calls me and says that he will credit my account a win and close my account and send me the cash... I said I wanted my account to remain open. He said ok, he will give me freeplay if I "clean up" the thread. Fine what does "clean up the thread" mean?

    So I returned to the SBR thread and simply posted.. that I was wrong the rules do state I should lose.. and I mentioned that heritage was good to me to give me a freeplay..

     

    Few minutes lates the phones rings. Its John again and he sounded pretty irritated.. Said that in the forum I made it look like heritage was giving in to me.. or something like that..... He didnt like it and said my account was closed... he would credit the wager as a win and send me the money... FINE....

    Maybe he wanted me to change my opinion on the fact that THATS THE DUMBEST SPORTS RULE IN ALLLLLLL OF SPORTS PERIOD. IF IT RAINS YOU LOSE? even if you're UP IN THE BOTTOM OF THE 9TH?

    THATS COMPLETE BULLSHIT HERITAGE AND YOU KNOW IT

    I told them I will go to the authorities and report them for allowing Americans to wager on sports.

    FOR BEING SUCH person

    But I have decided I will not go to the authorites because many of you love to play there.

    I just honestly never knew heritage could be so shady, and low class.. and Yes.. I am upset.. I have a temper.. and the way they treated me.. a loyal customer.. IS COMPLETELY WRONG. 

    But I have decided to let the matter rest..But. I will say a one final darn YOU TO HERITAGE and find another place to play... darn YOU!!

     

     

     

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    Quote Originally Posted by luckyjj:

    Hello everyone.. I am the OP that the former poster spoke of on SBR. Yes.. The wager was according to the rules a loss.. 

     

    For those who dont know, I bet the DET tigers to win ML and in the bottom of the 9th with 2 out  DET was up 6-5 and they called a rain delay, and the game ended.

    My account at first was credited as a win, however it was quickly overturned into a loss.. intially I was upset at that yes.....

    John from Heritage calls me and says that he will credit my account a win and close my account and send me the cash... I said I wanted my account to remain open. He said ok, he will give me freeplay if I "clean up" the thread. Fine what does "clean up the thread" mean?

    So I returned to the SBR thread and simply posted.. that I was wrong the rules do state I should lose.. and I mentioned that heritage was good to me to give me a freeplay..

     

    Few minutes lates the phones rings. Its John again and he sounded pretty irritated.. Said that in the forum I made it look like heritage was giving in to me.. or something like that..... He didnt like it and said my account was closed... he would credit the wager as a win and send me the money... FINE....

    Maybe he wanted me to change my opinion on the fact that THATS THE DUMBEST SPORTS RULE IN ALLLLLLL OF SPORTS PERIOD. IF IT RAINS YOU LOSE? even if you're UP IN THE BOTTOM OF THE 9TH?

    THATS COMPLETE BULLSHIT HERITAGE AND YOU KNOW IT

    I told them I will go to the authorities and report them for allowing Americans to wager on sports.

    FOR BEING SUCH person

    But I have decided I will not go to the authorites because many of you love to play there.

    I just honestly never knew heritage could be so shady, and low class.. and Yes.. I am upset.. I have a temper.. and the way they treated me.. a loyal customer.. IS COMPLETELY WRONG. 

    But I have decided to let the matter rest..But. I will say a one final darn YOU TO HERITAGE and find another place to play... darn YOU!!

     

     

     

     
    TheCrow
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    Posted: Feb. 27, 2014 - 4:28 PM ET #10

    Quote Originally Posted by luckyjj:

    Hello everyone.. I am the OP that the former poster spoke of on SBR. Yes.. The wager was according to the rules a loss.. 

     

    For those who dont know, I bet the DET tigers to win ML and in the bottom of the 9th with 2 out  DET was up 6-5 and they called a rain delay, and the game ended.

    My account at first was credited as a win, however it was quickly overturned into a loss.. intially I was upset at that yes.....

    John from Heritage calls me and says that he will credit my account a win and close my account and send me the cash... I said I wanted my account to remain open. He said ok, he will give me freeplay if I "clean up" the thread. Fine what does "clean up the thread" mean?

    So I returned to the SBR thread and simply posted.. that I was wrong the rules do state I should lose.. and I mentioned that heritage was good to me to give me a freeplay..

     

    Few minutes lates the phones rings. Its John again and he sounded pretty irritated.. Said that in the forum I made it look like heritage was giving in to me.. or something like that..... He didnt like it and said my account was closed... he would credit the wager as a win and send me the money... FINE....

    Maybe he wanted me to change my opinion on the fact that THATS THE DUMBEST SPORTS RULE IN ALLLLLLL OF SPORTS PERIOD. IF IT RAINS YOU LOSE? even if you're UP IN THE BOTTOM OF THE 9TH?

    THATS COMPLETE BULLSHIT HERITAGE AND YOU KNOW IT

    I told them I will go to the authorities and report them for allowing Americans to wager on sports.

    FOR BEING SUCH person

    But I have decided I will not go to the authorites because many of you love to play there.

    I just honestly never knew heritage could be so shady, and low class.. and Yes.. I am upset.. I have a temper.. and the way they treated me.. a loyal customer.. IS COMPLETELY WRONG. 

    But I have decided to let the matter rest..But. I will say a one final darn YOU TO HERITAGE and find another place to play... darn YOU!!

     

     

     


    so you told them that you will go to the authorities and report them for allowing americans to wager on sports?  The rules were the rules from the start, it's not like they made something up when they realized that rain might cause the game to not complete with 1 out to go.  

    Your temper deserves to get smashed by heritage for saying the stupid shiit that you will report heritage to the authorities.  It's no fukkin' wonder why people end up dead and missing and i hope this doesn't happen to you.
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    Quote Originally Posted by luckyjj:

    Hello everyone.. I am the OP that the former poster spoke of on SBR. Yes.. The wager was according to the rules a loss.. 

     

    For those who dont know, I bet the DET tigers to win ML and in the bottom of the 9th with 2 out  DET was up 6-5 and they called a rain delay, and the game ended.

    My account at first was credited as a win, however it was quickly overturned into a loss.. intially I was upset at that yes.....

    John from Heritage calls me and says that he will credit my account a win and close my account and send me the cash... I said I wanted my account to remain open. He said ok, he will give me freeplay if I "clean up" the thread. Fine what does "clean up the thread" mean?

    So I returned to the SBR thread and simply posted.. that I was wrong the rules do state I should lose.. and I mentioned that heritage was good to me to give me a freeplay..

     

    Few minutes lates the phones rings. Its John again and he sounded pretty irritated.. Said that in the forum I made it look like heritage was giving in to me.. or something like that..... He didnt like it and said my account was closed... he would credit the wager as a win and send me the money... FINE....

    Maybe he wanted me to change my opinion on the fact that THATS THE DUMBEST SPORTS RULE IN ALLLLLLL OF SPORTS PERIOD. IF IT RAINS YOU LOSE? even if you're UP IN THE BOTTOM OF THE 9TH?

    THATS COMPLETE BULLSHIT HERITAGE AND YOU KNOW IT

    I told them I will go to the authorities and report them for allowing Americans to wager on sports.

    FOR BEING SUCH person

    But I have decided I will not go to the authorites because many of you love to play there.

    I just honestly never knew heritage could be so shady, and low class.. and Yes.. I am upset.. I have a temper.. and the way they treated me.. a loyal customer.. IS COMPLETELY WRONG. 

    But I have decided to let the matter rest..But. I will say a one final darn YOU TO HERITAGE and find another place to play... darn YOU!!

     

     

     


    so you told them that you will go to the authorities and report them for allowing americans to wager on sports?  The rules were the rules from the start, it's not like they made something up when they realized that rain might cause the game to not complete with 1 out to go.  

    Your temper deserves to get smashed by heritage for saying the stupid shiit that you will report heritage to the authorities.  It's no fukkin' wonder why people end up dead and missing and i hope this doesn't happen to you.
     
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    Posted: Feb. 27, 2014 - 9:16 PM ET #11

    Luckyjj ur a clown!!!! So I guess Vegas are crooks also, some people.
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    Luckyjj ur a clown!!!! So I guess Vegas are crooks also, some people.
     
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    Posted: Feb. 27, 2014 - 11:14 PM ET #12

    I dont think anyone is showing up at my door.. Im very well armed. I assure you of that.. you gotta love the 2nd amendment GodBless America!

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    I dont think anyone is showing up at my door.. Im very well armed. I assure you of that.. you gotta love the 2nd amendment GodBless America!

     
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    Posted: Feb. 27, 2014 - 11:17 PM ET #13

    Like I said.. Im over it.. you guys are the only ones who want to keep commenting on it.. its over.. I moved on.. Im  at a better stronger book now.. Im happy...
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    Like I said.. Im over it.. you guys are the only ones who want to keep commenting on it.. its over.. I moved on.. Im  at a better stronger book now.. Im happy...
     
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    and its still the worst rule in sports wagering period... weather is a factor.. BUT ONLY PLAYERS SHOULD DETERMINE THE OUTCOME OF A GAME. Not the "Gods" If your team is up with 2 outs in the bottom of the 9th you lose?

     

    thats a head scratcher to me... I know what the rule states.. IT NEEDS TO BE CHANGED PERIOD. Im happy with my new book, and withdraw options are better and Im thrilled  :)

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    and its still the worst rule in sports wagering period... weather is a factor.. BUT ONLY PLAYERS SHOULD DETERMINE THE OUTCOME OF A GAME. Not the "Gods" If your team is up with 2 outs in the bottom of the 9th you lose?

     

    thats a head scratcher to me... I know what the rule states.. IT NEEDS TO BE CHANGED PERIOD. Im happy with my new book, and withdraw options are better and Im thrilled  :)

     
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    Posted: Feb. 28, 2014 - 2:26 AM ET #15

    Heritage has done some seriously shady stuff to me though regarding live betting, not befitting such a highly ranked outfit. Last time I called up and complained about a misgrade, I was told that I had made so much money there, and while they'd correct it if I wanted, they'd also close my account and send me a check for my balance! I decided I'd rather keep my account open and have the bet misgraded as a loss (they collared me a few days later anyway).

    I've also had live NBA whole game spread bets get graded as a loss because it didn't specifically say OT included (like it usually does) and my 4 point favorite only covered because of OT . There was not a third option (such as game goes to OT), so Heritage won all bets on that spread that game. 

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    Heritage has done some seriously shady stuff to me though regarding live betting, not befitting such a highly ranked outfit. Last time I called up and complained about a misgrade, I was told that I had made so much money there, and while they'd correct it if I wanted, they'd also close my account and send me a check for my balance! I decided I'd rather keep my account open and have the bet misgraded as a loss (they collared me a few days later anyway).

    I've also had live NBA whole game spread bets get graded as a loss because it didn't specifically say OT included (like it usually does) and my 4 point favorite only covered because of OT . There was not a third option (such as game goes to OT), so Heritage won all bets on that spread that game. 

     
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    it doesn't matter if you are armed, the fact of the matter is that shiit happens and then people are gone.  they have no time to draw their weapons.  It happens when least expected, amendment has nothing to do with how stupid you are and how stupid of a threat you made against heritage when the rule was what is was long long time ago before you even probably signed up.

    sure it's over with and you have moved on but i comment on it because it gives a snapshot of not only your personality but you represent a lot of others out there who are willing to let their temper fukk everything up for the rest of the americans.  Most of the time we never get a chance to catch people red handed but you on the other hand admitted what you did.  It's one thing to say that you made a mistake, but to mention the fact that you are armed, i wouldn't mind heritage putting some surveilance on you to see just what exactly you represent as a person.  Did you not really mean it when you made the threat about reporting them to allow americans to wager on sports?  it's possible that you didn't really mean it and that you don't feel the same way right now.  Is it also possible that heritage doesn't even care that you made the threat in the first place and that they are in cahoots of the usa government?  yeah that's possible too but the fact of the matter is that you made the threat to them. That shows a lot about your character.  

    But the fact of the matter is that you show defense on your part by bringing in weapons into the picture here instead of putting your hands up, i don't care what happens to you anymore.  If someone like you ever turned up missing knowing what kind of person you are, for being stupid, and to continue to complain about the rule, you deserve to go away, sorry.

    i guarantee you that if you were losing 15-3 in a spring training baseball game on heritage and they decided not to finish the last out because the airplane for the opposing team was about to leave, you wouldn't say anything.  I went on sbr to try and look for the thread that you had mentioned, but i didn't see anything.  I wouldn't be surprised that they removed it because i can tell that heritage cares about their reputation.  For instance i once had the live in game betting go down on me when i thought i was going to get refunded a winning bet.  turns out that the computers were looked at the next morning, found that i had placed a bet i had won and paid me out.  For this trouble the same night i made the bet when i called them, they gave a free play.  I was also with bet jamaica before them and everything basically connects with how they act.  Everything is very consistent with them.

    Every sportsbook has different rules.  5dimes for example i believe has a rule regarding totals that a game must complete the bottom of the 8th inning for a total to count as action.  other sportsbooks have it so that the game has to go to the full completion.  It's everyone's job to know all the policies and procedures ahead of time.

    If you realized that you lost because of a stupid rule, it's one thing to accept your loss and ask for the rule to be changed.  But to flat out say that they stole your money and make the other stupid comments that you did, despite you saying that you are over with it, it's my opinion that people like you deserve to be BURIED.
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    it doesn't matter if you are armed, the fact of the matter is that shiit happens and then people are gone.  they have no time to draw their weapons.  It happens when least expected, amendment has nothing to do with how stupid you are and how stupid of a threat you made against heritage when the rule was what is was long long time ago before you even probably signed up.

    sure it's over with and you have moved on but i comment on it because it gives a snapshot of not only your personality but you represent a lot of others out there who are willing to let their temper fukk everything up for the rest of the americans.  Most of the time we never get a chance to catch people red handed but you on the other hand admitted what you did.  It's one thing to say that you made a mistake, but to mention the fact that you are armed, i wouldn't mind heritage putting some surveilance on you to see just what exactly you represent as a person.  Did you not really mean it when you made the threat about reporting them to allow americans to wager on sports?  it's possible that you didn't really mean it and that you don't feel the same way right now.  Is it also possible that heritage doesn't even care that you made the threat in the first place and that they are in cahoots of the usa government?  yeah that's possible too but the fact of the matter is that you made the threat to them. That shows a lot about your character.  

    But the fact of the matter is that you show defense on your part by bringing in weapons into the picture here instead of putting your hands up, i don't care what happens to you anymore.  If someone like you ever turned up missing knowing what kind of person you are, for being stupid, and to continue to complain about the rule, you deserve to go away, sorry.

    i guarantee you that if you were losing 15-3 in a spring training baseball game on heritage and they decided not to finish the last out because the airplane for the opposing team was about to leave, you wouldn't say anything.  I went on sbr to try and look for the thread that you had mentioned, but i didn't see anything.  I wouldn't be surprised that they removed it because i can tell that heritage cares about their reputation.  For instance i once had the live in game betting go down on me when i thought i was going to get refunded a winning bet.  turns out that the computers were looked at the next morning, found that i had placed a bet i had won and paid me out.  For this trouble the same night i made the bet when i called them, they gave a free play.  I was also with bet jamaica before them and everything basically connects with how they act.  Everything is very consistent with them.

    Every sportsbook has different rules.  5dimes for example i believe has a rule regarding totals that a game must complete the bottom of the 8th inning for a total to count as action.  other sportsbooks have it so that the game has to go to the full completion.  It's everyone's job to know all the policies and procedures ahead of time.

    If you realized that you lost because of a stupid rule, it's one thing to accept your loss and ask for the rule to be changed.  But to flat out say that they stole your money and make the other stupid comments that you did, despite you saying that you are over with it, it's my opinion that people like you deserve to be BURIED.
     
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    Posted: Feb. 28, 2014 - 3:23 AM ET #17

    Quote Originally Posted by footballfish:

    Heritage has done some seriously shady stuff to me though regarding live betting, not befitting such a highly ranked outfit. Last time I called up and complained about a misgrade, I was told that I had made so much money there, and while they'd correct it if I wanted, they'd also close my account and send me a check for my balance! I decided I'd rather keep my account open and have the bet misgraded as a loss (they collared me a few days later anyway).

    I've also had live NBA whole game spread bets get graded as a loss because it didn't specifically say OT included (like it usually does) and my 4 point favorite only covered because of OT . There was not a third option (such as game goes to OT), so Heritage won all bets on that spread that game. 


    when did this happen regarding the OT?  when i look on the live bets for heritage, it specifically states OT included.  Is it possible that you bet on the 4th quarter spread?  4th quarter is the 4th quarter.  Last time i checked they put (no OT in parentheses) but why would they even need to do this?  4th quarter is like i said the 4TH QUARTER.  2nd half bets count overtime because overtime is part of the 2nd half.  Overtime is not part of the 4th quarter.  Some of the things you are saying do not make any sense.  If you are making so much money, they can close your account, they don't care what you do or what you say.  It's the books discretion to do that.  you don't even say what the first misgrade was.  

    If anyone has concrete evidence i guarantee you there's a way to get it taken care of and corrected.  Unfortunately there are people who don't have any brains or don't know how to use them.  Don't be that hothead that doesn't know what the hell he's talking about.  


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    Quote Originally Posted by footballfish:

    Heritage has done some seriously shady stuff to me though regarding live betting, not befitting such a highly ranked outfit. Last time I called up and complained about a misgrade, I was told that I had made so much money there, and while they'd correct it if I wanted, they'd also close my account and send me a check for my balance! I decided I'd rather keep my account open and have the bet misgraded as a loss (they collared me a few days later anyway).

    I've also had live NBA whole game spread bets get graded as a loss because it didn't specifically say OT included (like it usually does) and my 4 point favorite only covered because of OT . There was not a third option (such as game goes to OT), so Heritage won all bets on that spread that game. 


    when did this happen regarding the OT?  when i look on the live bets for heritage, it specifically states OT included.  Is it possible that you bet on the 4th quarter spread?  4th quarter is the 4th quarter.  Last time i checked they put (no OT in parentheses) but why would they even need to do this?  4th quarter is like i said the 4TH QUARTER.  2nd half bets count overtime because overtime is part of the 2nd half.  Overtime is not part of the 4th quarter.  Some of the things you are saying do not make any sense.  If you are making so much money, they can close your account, they don't care what you do or what you say.  It's the books discretion to do that.  you don't even say what the first misgrade was.  

    If anyone has concrete evidence i guarantee you there's a way to get it taken care of and corrected.  Unfortunately there are people who don't have any brains or don't know how to use them.  Don't be that hothead that doesn't know what the hell he's talking about.  


     
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    Posted: Feb. 28, 2014 - 3:42 AM ET #18

    YOU PUNK behind girl... ANYTIME SOMEONE SHOWS UP IN A THREATENING MANNER UNINVITED IN MY HOME WEAPONS ARE GOING TO BE INTRODUCED.. WHY ARE YOU WASTING SO MUCH TIME ON THIS?

     

    ARE YOU GONNA SHOW UP AT MY HOUSE YOU OLD behind girl?

    AS I SAID ABOVE YOU  ILLITERATE DONKEY FECIES THAT I AM NOT REPORTING ANYONE.  I HAVE BETTER THINGS TO DO LIKE EARN AND WIN MONEY.

    SO darn YOU.. YOU HAVE WASTED WAYYY TOO MUCH OF YOUR LIFE ON ME .. GET A FUCKIN JOB DO SOMETHIN USEFUL.

     

     

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    YOU PUNK behind girl... ANYTIME SOMEONE SHOWS UP IN A THREATENING MANNER UNINVITED IN MY HOME WEAPONS ARE GOING TO BE INTRODUCED.. WHY ARE YOU WASTING SO MUCH TIME ON THIS?

     

    ARE YOU GONNA SHOW UP AT MY HOUSE YOU OLD behind girl?

    AS I SAID ABOVE YOU  ILLITERATE DONKEY FECIES THAT I AM NOT REPORTING ANYONE.  I HAVE BETTER THINGS TO DO LIKE EARN AND WIN MONEY.

    SO darn YOU.. YOU HAVE WASTED WAYYY TOO MUCH OF YOUR LIFE ON ME .. GET A FUCKIN JOB DO SOMETHIN USEFUL.

     

     

     
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    Posted: Feb. 28, 2014 - 3:49 AM ET #19

    I'm purposely being vague because evidently Heritage does read these posts (or other posts) and I don't want to have my account closed if they recognize me. I have no idea why they chose to collar me (cut my limits substantially) instead of close my account, but I don't want to play with fire. I'm aware of everything you said about 4th quarter and overtime rules and such - I'm a sharp who's been betting online for a very long time. None of those things happened here. It was pure thuggery, and unlike any experience at any other book I've ever had (5dimes, Intertops, Bookmaker, BetOnline, Bovada, WagerWeb, YouWager, GtBets, SBO, theGreek, JustBet, Pinnacle, BetTrojan, BetJamaica, Legends, etc.)

    The first incident, where they offered to regrade the bet correctly, but they'd close my account, was extortion.  The 2nd bet, where they didn't write '(OT included)' was likely initially a mistake that they took advantage of (in their live betting rules sections on NBA, it says that overtime DOESN'T count unless otherwise stated).

    I mentioned in the post that it DOES usually say (Including OT). This time, for whatever reason, it didn't. I looked back at my past bets, and it was the only time that it didn't say (Including OT).

    I have concrete evidence on both, but I've decided I'd rather keep my account than fight through OSGA over it, win, and then likely get banned.

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    I'm purposely being vague because evidently Heritage does read these posts (or other posts) and I don't want to have my account closed if they recognize me. I have no idea why they chose to collar me (cut my limits substantially) instead of close my account, but I don't want to play with fire. I'm aware of everything you said about 4th quarter and overtime rules and such - I'm a sharp who's been betting online for a very long time. None of those things happened here. It was pure thuggery, and unlike any experience at any other book I've ever had (5dimes, Intertops, Bookmaker, BetOnline, Bovada, WagerWeb, YouWager, GtBets, SBO, theGreek, JustBet, Pinnacle, BetTrojan, BetJamaica, Legends, etc.)

    The first incident, where they offered to regrade the bet correctly, but they'd close my account, was extortion.  The 2nd bet, where they didn't write '(OT included)' was likely initially a mistake that they took advantage of (in their live betting rules sections on NBA, it says that overtime DOESN'T count unless otherwise stated).

    I mentioned in the post that it DOES usually say (Including OT). This time, for whatever reason, it didn't. I looked back at my past bets, and it was the only time that it didn't say (Including OT).

    I have concrete evidence on both, but I've decided I'd rather keep my account than fight through OSGA over it, win, and then likely get banned.

     
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    Posted: Feb. 28, 2014 - 3:57 AM ET #20

    why would anyone even want to go to your house?  again, your stupidity shows when you think someone is going to try and get you at your house?  

    Why would i have anything to do with showing up at your house?  i am the 3rd party looking in and took the opportunity to make an example out of you.  Haven't you heard of the black cloud? The path of the righteous man is beset on all sides by the inequities of the selfish and the tyranny of evil men. Blessed is he who, in the name of charity and good will, shepherds the weak through the valley of the darkness. For he is truly his brother's keeper and the finder of lost children. And It will strike down upon thee with great vengeance and furious anger to those who attempt to poison and destroy my brothers. And you will know It as the Lord when It lays thy vengeance upon you.

    my suggestion to you is not to bet with heritage anymore, leave this forum, and stay in your house at all times.  Have someone else run your errands.
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    why would anyone even want to go to your house?  again, your stupidity shows when you think someone is going to try and get you at your house?  

    Why would i have anything to do with showing up at your house?  i am the 3rd party looking in and took the opportunity to make an example out of you.  Haven't you heard of the black cloud? The path of the righteous man is beset on all sides by the inequities of the selfish and the tyranny of evil men. Blessed is he who, in the name of charity and good will, shepherds the weak through the valley of the darkness. For he is truly his brother's keeper and the finder of lost children. And It will strike down upon thee with great vengeance and furious anger to those who attempt to poison and destroy my brothers. And you will know It as the Lord when It lays thy vengeance upon you.

    my suggestion to you is not to bet with heritage anymore, leave this forum, and stay in your house at all times.  Have someone else run your errands.
     
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    Posted: Feb. 28, 2014 - 3:59 AM ET #21

    Quote Originally Posted by footballfish:

    I'm purposely being vague because evidently Heritage does read these posts (or other posts) and I don't want to have my account closed if they recognize me. I have no idea why they chose to collar me (cut my limits substantially) instead of close my account, but I don't want to play with fire. I'm aware of everything you said about 4th quarter and overtime rules and such - I'm a sharp who's been betting online for a very long time. None of those things happened here. It was pure thuggery, and unlike any experience at any other book I've ever had (5dimes, Intertops, Bookmaker, BetOnline, Bovada, WagerWeb, YouWager, GtBets, SBO, theGreek, JustBet, Pinnacle, BetTrojan, BetJamaica, Legends, etc.)

    The first incident, where they offered to regrade the bet correctly, but they'd close my account, was extortion.  The 2nd bet, where they didn't write '(OT included)' was likely initially a mistake that they took advantage of (in their live betting rules sections on NBA, it says that overtime DOESN'T count unless otherwise stated).

    I mentioned in the post that it DOES usually say (Including OT). This time, for whatever reason, it didn't. I looked back at my past bets, and it was the only time that it didn't say (Including OT).

    I have concrete evidence on both, but I've decided I'd rather keep my account than fight through OSGA over it, win, and then likely get banned.

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    Quote Originally Posted by footballfish:

    I'm purposely being vague because evidently Heritage does read these posts (or other posts) and I don't want to have my account closed if they recognize me. I have no idea why they chose to collar me (cut my limits substantially) instead of close my account, but I don't want to play with fire. I'm aware of everything you said about 4th quarter and overtime rules and such - I'm a sharp who's been betting online for a very long time. None of those things happened here. It was pure thuggery, and unlike any experience at any other book I've ever had (5dimes, Intertops, Bookmaker, BetOnline, Bovada, WagerWeb, YouWager, GtBets, SBO, theGreek, JustBet, Pinnacle, BetTrojan, BetJamaica, Legends, etc.)

    The first incident, where they offered to regrade the bet correctly, but they'd close my account, was extortion.  The 2nd bet, where they didn't write '(OT included)' was likely initially a mistake that they took advantage of (in their live betting rules sections on NBA, it says that overtime DOESN'T count unless otherwise stated).

    I mentioned in the post that it DOES usually say (Including OT). This time, for whatever reason, it didn't. I looked back at my past bets, and it was the only time that it didn't say (Including OT).

    I have concrete evidence on both, but I've decided I'd rather keep my account than fight through OSGA over it, win, and then likely get banned.

     
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    Posted: Feb. 28, 2014 - 4:03 AM ET #22

    i understand now.  I feel that heritage should be called out or any book that does someone wrong.  If they close your account because you are a sharp, there are ways around this.  If they have limited your bets, i would stop betting with them temporarily just to make sure the account stays open.  You could find other names or people to bet under.  you could move to las vegas, there is always a way around everything just like there's always a counter to every move in grappling.
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    i understand now.  I feel that heritage should be called out or any book that does someone wrong.  If they close your account because you are a sharp, there are ways around this.  If they have limited your bets, i would stop betting with them temporarily just to make sure the account stays open.  You could find other names or people to bet under.  you could move to las vegas, there is always a way around everything just like there's always a counter to every move in grappling.
     
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    Posted: Feb. 28, 2014 - 4:04 AM ET #23

    You really dont have much of a life? Do you? Why dont you go suck heritages person? Thats my advice to you since you are all over their friggin nutsack.And while you're at it also GO GET FUKED

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    You really dont have much of a life? Do you? Why dont you go suck heritages person? Thats my advice to you since you are all over their friggin nutsack.And while you're at it also GO GET FUKED

     
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    Posted: Feb. 28, 2014 - 4:06 AM ET #24

    I will say HERITAGE DID PAY ME.
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    I will say HERITAGE DID PAY ME.
     
     
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    Posted: Feb. 28, 2014 - 4:20 AM ET #25

    Heritage has a live betting platform (not to be confused with their in-progress lines) which they evidently get from a outside service. This service also provides live betting lines to YouWager, Intertops, and GtBets (if you know of others, please let me know!). At those sites the live betting lines will ALWAYS be exactly the same (although some of those sites offer slightly different vig or more games). I've been banned outright at Youwager, and had my limits lowered to pocket change at Intertops. GtBets has very high vig on their lines so it's tough to find good deals there. So being able to live bet at heritage still has real value to me (since I find that live betting platform easy to beat). If heritage bans me at any point, I'll make a big deal of what they did. Otherwise, I won't.
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    Heritage has a live betting platform (not to be confused with their in-progress lines) which they evidently get from a outside service. This service also provides live betting lines to YouWager, Intertops, and GtBets (if you know of others, please let me know!). At those sites the live betting lines will ALWAYS be exactly the same (although some of those sites offer slightly different vig or more games). I've been banned outright at Youwager, and had my limits lowered to pocket change at Intertops. GtBets has very high vig on their lines so it's tough to find good deals there. So being able to live bet at heritage still has real value to me (since I find that live betting platform easy to beat). If heritage bans me at any point, I'll make a big deal of what they did. Otherwise, I won't.
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