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    BO DOG NAME CHANGE. Uh Oh...What's Next??

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    PaulKersey
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    Posted: Dec. 14, 2011 - 3:28 PM ET #1

    Does anybody have any further information about BO DOG CHANGING THEIR NAME AGAIN? 

    From what I've just read on OSGA, this time it seems more than another domain change.  I guess it's OK. But if you're used to eating Campbell's Soup for years do you want to see Sampbell's appear on the can?  This makes me nervous.  I don't want to wake up on New Year Day and learn "this dog won't hunt"...with my $$. 

    Anyway...will leave you the info I just picked up BELOW.

    https://www.osga.com/wordpress/offshore-insiders/what-happened-to-bodog.html

    I'm sure we'll be hearing more about this with the usual political correct statement from them.. But in the meantime, if anyone else has more reassuring news, please pass it on, thanks.

     

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    To remove first post, remove entire topic.

    Does anybody have any further information about BO DOG CHANGING THEIR NAME AGAIN? 

    From what I've just read on OSGA, this time it seems more than another domain change.  I guess it's OK. But if you're used to eating Campbell's Soup for years do you want to see Sampbell's appear on the can?  This makes me nervous.  I don't want to wake up on New Year Day and learn "this dog won't hunt"...with my $$. 

    Anyway...will leave you the info I just picked up BELOW.

    https://www.osga.com/wordpress/offshore-insiders/what-happened-to-bodog.html

    I'm sure we'll be hearing more about this with the usual political correct statement from them.. But in the meantime, if anyone else has more reassuring news, please pass it on, thanks.

     

     
    earthWake
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    Posted: Dec. 14, 2011 - 4:12 PM ET #2

    It was made clear over 6 months ago that Bodog brand name would be leaving the US Market.

    Heres how it breaks down.

    Calvin Ayre is the owner of the Bodog brand, however when the UIEGA was passed he knew that it was pretty wise to get out of the American market. Around this time, he sold the brand to a company called MGM gaming.

    That company has been running the site for the last few years, simply using the Bodog name. Bodog wanted to get out of the market and will be run by the same company, just under a different name.

    I too hope there is no trouble

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    It was made clear over 6 months ago that Bodog brand name would be leaving the US Market.

    Heres how it breaks down.

    Calvin Ayre is the owner of the Bodog brand, however when the UIEGA was passed he knew that it was pretty wise to get out of the American market. Around this time, he sold the brand to a company called MGM gaming.

    That company has been running the site for the last few years, simply using the Bodog name. Bodog wanted to get out of the market and will be run by the same company, just under a different name.

    I too hope there is no trouble

     
    earthWake
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    Posted: Dec. 14, 2011 - 4:15 PM ET #3

    haha I just clicked that link and read this.

    " Players at the table are now annoymous. This prevents expert or pro players for fishing and data mining new or poor players so that they can go after them in tournaments and ring games."

    That sucks. I already studied my opponents before I sat down to play this, I really dislike this new aspect. I'm not a pro but have been playing online poker for over 8 years and certainly have an advantage

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    haha I just clicked that link and read this.

    " Players at the table are now annoymous. This prevents expert or pro players for fishing and data mining new or poor players so that they can go after them in tournaments and ring games."

    That sucks. I already studied my opponents before I sat down to play this, I really dislike this new aspect. I'm not a pro but have been playing online poker for over 8 years and certainly have an advantage

     
    PaulKersey
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    Posted: Dec. 15, 2011 - 12:17 PM ET #4

    Thanks for the input earthWake.

    Yeah..I agree.  Like adjusting slot % payoffs, these books are always scheming ways to add house advantages.  If we EVER get U.S online legalization &.regulation we might see some fairness and the beginning of legit competition on both sides.

    Glad I found that OSGA link.  I wouldn't expect BoDog, excuse me "Bovada" from announcing that information on their next press release.  Wouldn't expect to see Calvin Ayre showing up at any U.S. airport anytime soon either.

    Bovada...sounds like a new mens cologne or a car. 

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    Thanks for the input earthWake.

    Yeah..I agree.  Like adjusting slot % payoffs, these books are always scheming ways to add house advantages.  If we EVER get U.S online legalization &.regulation we might see some fairness and the beginning of legit competition on both sides.

    Glad I found that OSGA link.  I wouldn't expect BoDog, excuse me "Bovada" from announcing that information on their next press release.  Wouldn't expect to see Calvin Ayre showing up at any U.S. airport anytime soon either.

    Bovada...sounds like a new mens cologne or a car. 

     
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    Posted: Dec. 20, 2011 - 7:13 AM ET #5

    Paul stay away - the name change is only coming as Calvin is running from the DOJ & are closing in on him - and bodog funds - which will leave the players in a bad spot - and allow Calvin to run away with all the $$
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    Paul stay away - the name change is only coming as Calvin is running from the DOJ & are closing in on him - and bodog funds - which will leave the players in a bad spot - and allow Calvin to run away with all the $$
     
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    Posted: Dec. 20, 2011 - 8:31 AM ET #6

    Yes.  This all concerns me.  Not only BoDog...excuse me BOVADA.  But the rest of the online wagering industry as well.

    Don't want to make this sound like an Apocolypse or anything BUT watch out for the end of the football season.  Another book or two is likely to take the money and run.  It's becoming a sad trend.

    Guess that's for another post. 

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    Yes.  This all concerns me.  Not only BoDog...excuse me BOVADA.  But the rest of the online wagering industry as well.

    Don't want to make this sound like an Apocolypse or anything BUT watch out for the end of the football season.  Another book or two is likely to take the money and run.  It's becoming a sad trend.

    Guess that's for another post. 

     
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    Posted: Dec. 20, 2011 - 10:55 AM ET #7

    We know ALOT of guys in the industry--and can honestly say we know NO ONE at Bovada. Which makes us pretty nervous. Say what you want about Calvin, but he WAS always concerned about maintaining his brand's reputation. We'll definitely be keeping an eye on this one.

    JP
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    We know ALOT of guys in the industry--and can honestly say we know NO ONE at Bovada. Which makes us pretty nervous. Say what you want about Calvin, but he WAS always concerned about maintaining his brand's reputation. We'll definitely be keeping an eye on this one.

    JP
     
    nylonfeetrocks
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    Posted: Dec. 20, 2011 - 10:59 AM ET #8

    Quote Originally Posted by IndustryAlert:

    We know ALOT of guys in the industry--and can honestly say we know NO ONE at Bovada. Which makes us pretty nervous. Say what you want about Calvin, but he WAS always concerned about maintaining his brand's reputation. We'll definitely be keeping an eye on this one.

    JP


    what reputation?  most people are already aware of the shitty lines and the slowwww pay, no pays
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    Quote Originally Posted by IndustryAlert:

    We know ALOT of guys in the industry--and can honestly say we know NO ONE at Bovada. Which makes us pretty nervous. Say what you want about Calvin, but he WAS always concerned about maintaining his brand's reputation. We'll definitely be keeping an eye on this one.

    JP


    what reputation?  most people are already aware of the shitty lines and the slowwww pay, no pays
     
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    Posted: Dec. 22, 2011 - 2:09 PM ET #9

    Actually...there IS an advantage of joining BoDog...Uhh BOVADA. 

    MAKE THOSE "SHITTY LINES" WORK TO YOUR ADVANTAGE

    1. Everyone should know that you should join at least (3) books for odds comparison and account insurance purposes.

    2. Everyone knows that the public always leans on favorites.

    3. Everyone knows that very often BoDog piles that extra 1/2 point to 1 full point or perhaps more on the favorite.

    If you like the dog....you know where to go...to the BoDog.  

    Damn...I mean BO-VADA

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    Actually...there IS an advantage of joining BoDog...Uhh BOVADA. 

    MAKE THOSE "SHITTY LINES" WORK TO YOUR ADVANTAGE

    1. Everyone should know that you should join at least (3) books for odds comparison and account insurance purposes.

    2. Everyone knows that the public always leans on favorites.

    3. Everyone knows that very often BoDog piles that extra 1/2 point to 1 full point or perhaps more on the favorite.

    If you like the dog....you know where to go...to the BoDog.  

    Damn...I mean BO-VADA

     
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    Posted: Dec. 22, 2011 - 5:18 PM ET #10

    Quote Originally Posted by PaulKersey:

    Actually...there IS an advantage of joining BoDog...Uhh BOVADA. 

    MAKE THOSE "SHITTY LINES" WORK TO YOUR ADVANTAGE

    1. Everyone should know that you should join at least (3) books for odds comparison and account insurance purposes.

    2. Everyone knows that the public always leans on favorites.

    3. Everyone knows that very often BoDog piles that extra 1/2 point to 1 full point or perhaps more on the favorite.

    If you like the dog....you know where to go...to the BoDog.  

    Damn...I mean BO-VADA



    you are right, just take advantage of the shitty lines then once u take them for a few thousand, patiently wait the 3 to 6 months to get paid
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    Quote Originally Posted by PaulKersey:

    Actually...there IS an advantage of joining BoDog...Uhh BOVADA. 

    MAKE THOSE "SHITTY LINES" WORK TO YOUR ADVANTAGE

    1. Everyone should know that you should join at least (3) books for odds comparison and account insurance purposes.

    2. Everyone knows that the public always leans on favorites.

    3. Everyone knows that very often BoDog piles that extra 1/2 point to 1 full point or perhaps more on the favorite.

    If you like the dog....you know where to go...to the BoDog.  

    Damn...I mean BO-VADA



    you are right, just take advantage of the shitty lines then once u take them for a few thousand, patiently wait the 3 to 6 months to get paid
     
    rarafromphilly
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    Posted: Dec. 22, 2011 - 8:18 PM ET #11

    sorry ass book.
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    sorry ass book.
     
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    Posted: Dec. 23, 2011 - 10:00 PM ET #12

    Quote Originally Posted by PaulKersey:

    Actually...there IS an advantage of joining BoDog...Uhh BOVADA. 

    MAKE THOSE "SHITTY LINES" WORK TO YOUR ADVANTAGE

    1. Everyone should know that you should join at least (3) books for odds comparison and account insurance purposes.

    2. Everyone knows that the public always leans on favorites.

    3. Everyone knows that very often BoDog piles that extra 1/2 point to 1 full point or perhaps more on the favorite.

    If you like the dog....you know where to go...to the BoDog.  

    Damn...I mean BO-VADA


    As to #3, this advantage is completely nullified once you start winning b/c bodog will hold the lines before you submit your wager and force you to take a worse line that is shaved against you.
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    Quote Originally Posted by PaulKersey:

    Actually...there IS an advantage of joining BoDog...Uhh BOVADA. 

    MAKE THOSE "SHITTY LINES" WORK TO YOUR ADVANTAGE

    1. Everyone should know that you should join at least (3) books for odds comparison and account insurance purposes.

    2. Everyone knows that the public always leans on favorites.

    3. Everyone knows that very often BoDog piles that extra 1/2 point to 1 full point or perhaps more on the favorite.

    If you like the dog....you know where to go...to the BoDog.  

    Damn...I mean BO-VADA


    As to #3, this advantage is completely nullified once you start winning b/c bodog will hold the lines before you submit your wager and force you to take a worse line that is shaved against you.
     
     
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    Posted: Dec. 24, 2011 - 1:30 AM ET #13

    fuk bo dog and beware the   Bet Online site...
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    fuk bo dog and beware the   Bet Online site...
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