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    bitcoin network fees

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    Posted: Nov. 19, 2017 - 11:05 PM ET #1

    have anybody have this problem made a small 20 bitcoin buy thur coinbase and got charged 12 dollars in network fees leaving me only 8 dollars in my betting acct
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    have anybody have this problem made a small 20 bitcoin buy thur coinbase and got charged 12 dollars in network fees leaving me only 8 dollars in my betting acct
     
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    Posted: Nov. 20, 2017 - 8:51 PM ET #2

    This is a perfect example of why I've been asking if Bitcoin is safe to use.  Seems like some people swear by it while others have been screwed by it.  I'd love for others to provide more feedback on Bitcoin.
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    This is a perfect example of why I've been asking if Bitcoin is safe to use.  Seems like some people swear by it while others have been screwed by it.  I'd love for others to provide more feedback on Bitcoin.
     
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    Posted: Nov. 21, 2017 - 7:24 PM ET #3

    I use Blockchain as my wallet and get vastly different network fees depending on how busy network is. See as low as 9 cents and as high as 4 bucks. If moving a grand still not a bad deal but if moving small sums these fees can really eat into your proceeds. Overall though bitcoin still worth it compared to the old ways
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    I use Blockchain as my wallet and get vastly different network fees depending on how busy network is. See as low as 9 cents and as high as 4 bucks. If moving a grand still not a bad deal but if moving small sums these fees can really eat into your proceeds. Overall though bitcoin still worth it compared to the old ways
     
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    Posted: Nov. 22, 2017 - 9:28 AM ET #4

    Bitcoin fees are determined by how fast you want a transaction to be confirmed.  There is no magic.  The higher your fees, the higher the likelihood that you will get a quick confirmation.

    When you send a transaction, you are just basically sending a message to the bitcoin miners.  You are not actually doing anything - it is kind of like a text that says "hey, I would like to transfer X to Y".

    The miners then pick and choose which of these requests they want to include in their confirmation blocks - and naturally they will take the higher fees first because they get to keep the fees.

    So your wallet software if simply going out to the mempool (the full list of open transaction requests) and looking to see what the current fees being offered - and sends your request based on how fast you want to get confirmed.

    This is a great site to get a view of how this works   https://bitcoinfees.earn.com/

    You will see how many "blocks" you will have to wait for how much in fees you include in your request at any given time - in real time. In very general terms, a block is about every 20 minutes - so if you have to wait 3 blocks - that is an hour.

    To further complicate things - fees are measured in "satoshis per byte".  Fees are not determined on how much you send - you could send 100 bitcoin for less fees than you send .001 bitcoin.

    So....  If you want to make sure that your transaction goes in the first block - the first 20 minutes or so - you have to go to the website above and include the appropriate fees.

    If you dont care how fast it gets there, you can include very low fees and it will get there eventually.

    Feel free to ask any further questions.
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    Bitcoin fees are determined by how fast you want a transaction to be confirmed.  There is no magic.  The higher your fees, the higher the likelihood that you will get a quick confirmation.

    When you send a transaction, you are just basically sending a message to the bitcoin miners.  You are not actually doing anything - it is kind of like a text that says "hey, I would like to transfer X to Y".

    The miners then pick and choose which of these requests they want to include in their confirmation blocks - and naturally they will take the higher fees first because they get to keep the fees.

    So your wallet software if simply going out to the mempool (the full list of open transaction requests) and looking to see what the current fees being offered - and sends your request based on how fast you want to get confirmed.

    This is a great site to get a view of how this works   https://bitcoinfees.earn.com/

    You will see how many "blocks" you will have to wait for how much in fees you include in your request at any given time - in real time. In very general terms, a block is about every 20 minutes - so if you have to wait 3 blocks - that is an hour.

    To further complicate things - fees are measured in "satoshis per byte".  Fees are not determined on how much you send - you could send 100 bitcoin for less fees than you send .001 bitcoin.

    So....  If you want to make sure that your transaction goes in the first block - the first 20 minutes or so - you have to go to the website above and include the appropriate fees.

    If you dont care how fast it gets there, you can include very low fees and it will get there eventually.

    Feel free to ask any further questions.
     
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    Posted: Nov. 22, 2017 - 10:00 AM ET #5

    The other thing you can do to greatly reduce fees is to get a wallet that supports "segwit" transmission of your transactions.

    Just google this.
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    The other thing you can do to greatly reduce fees is to get a wallet that supports "segwit" transmission of your transactions.

    Just google this.
     
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    Posted: Nov. 23, 2017 - 2:54 AM ET #6

    thanks so much vanzack.very nice of you to take the time to help
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    thanks so much vanzack.very nice of you to take the time to help
     
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    Quote Originally Posted by vanzack:

    Bitcoin fees are determined by how fast you want a transaction to be confirmed.  There is no magic.  The higher your fees, the higher the likelihood that you will get a quick confirmation.When you send a transaction, you are just basically sending a message to the bitcoin miners.  You are not actually doing anything - it is kind of like a text that says "hey, I would like to transfer X to Y".The miners then pick and choose which of these requests they want to include in their confirmation blocks - and naturally they will take the higher fees first because they get to keep the fees.So your wallet software if simply going out to the mempool (the full list of open transaction requests) and looking to see what the current fees being offered - and sends your request based on how fast you want to get confirmed.This is a great site to get a view of how this works   https://bitcoinfees.earn.com/You will see how many "blocks" you will have to wait for how much in fees you include in your request at any given time - in real time. In very general terms, a block is about every 20 minutes - so if you have to wait 3 blocks - that is an hour.To further complicate things - fees are measured in "satoshis per byte".  Fees are not determined on how much you send - you could send 100 bitcoin for less fees than you send .001 bitcoin.So....  If you want to make sure that your transaction goes in the first block - the first 20 minutes or so - you have to go to the website above and include the appropriate fees.If you dont care how fast it gets there, you can include very low fees and it will get there eventually.Feel free to ask any further questions.

     

    This is great information. I have been reading and reading about Bitcoin for several days now.

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    Quote Originally Posted by vanzack:

    Bitcoin fees are determined by how fast you want a transaction to be confirmed.  There is no magic.  The higher your fees, the higher the likelihood that you will get a quick confirmation.When you send a transaction, you are just basically sending a message to the bitcoin miners.  You are not actually doing anything - it is kind of like a text that says "hey, I would like to transfer X to Y".The miners then pick and choose which of these requests they want to include in their confirmation blocks - and naturally they will take the higher fees first because they get to keep the fees.So your wallet software if simply going out to the mempool (the full list of open transaction requests) and looking to see what the current fees being offered - and sends your request based on how fast you want to get confirmed.This is a great site to get a view of how this works   https://bitcoinfees.earn.com/You will see how many "blocks" you will have to wait for how much in fees you include in your request at any given time - in real time. In very general terms, a block is about every 20 minutes - so if you have to wait 3 blocks - that is an hour.To further complicate things - fees are measured in "satoshis per byte".  Fees are not determined on how much you send - you could send 100 bitcoin for less fees than you send .001 bitcoin.So....  If you want to make sure that your transaction goes in the first block - the first 20 minutes or so - you have to go to the website above and include the appropriate fees.If you dont care how fast it gets there, you can include very low fees and it will get there eventually.Feel free to ask any further questions.

     

    This is great information. I have been reading and reading about Bitcoin for several days now.

     
     
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    Posted: Jul. 8, 2018 - 10:54 AM ET #8

    man bitcoin sucks,unregulated fake money countless ripoffs.Books should stops using it before it goes belly up!

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    man bitcoin sucks,unregulated fake money countless ripoffs.Books should stops using it before it goes belly up!

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