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    Jelax
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    Posted: Jul. 15, 2011 - 4:28 PM ET #26

    I had the same thing happen with bodog except for 5k.  There is no recourse
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    I had the same thing happen with bodog except for 5k.  There is no recourse
     
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    Posted: Jul. 15, 2011 - 5:22 PM ET #27

    did you ever get you money Jelax?
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    did you ever get you money Jelax?
     
    jpham4
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    Posted: Jul. 15, 2011 - 5:22 PM ET #28

    did you ever get you money Jelax?
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    did you ever get you money Jelax?
     
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    Posted: Jul. 16, 2011 - 12:20 AM ET #29

    hi Lou can you ask them to show you proof that it was same physical address 
    because i am the only person living at my apartment that play poker online or 
    bet online so i believe they are ling to you i have here an attach link to 
    covers.com where i have explain and have every email they emailed me 
    https://www.covers.com/postingforum/post01/showmessage.aspx?spt=9&sub=101090842 i 
    am jpham4 on covers.com 
     
    This is exactly what happened i went and deposit 100 via WU to betonline to play 
    poker and bet on sports and i sat down at a table and played with a guy named 
    klam90 won almost 5000 from him within a 2 hour period the next day i bet on 
    baseball and wnba and lost back almost 1300 back i had already made a request to 
    withdraw 2500 via WU then i went back and made another request for 800 via MG. I 
    then get an email saying they have 3 registered people name jimmy pham and 
    needed me to send in my utility bill and id which i did and that cleared and my 
    account was unsuspended but then the next day i get an email asking me to 
    explain it i was committing fraud with another player which i wasnt and i 
    explain that i didnt and dont know any other player that play on betonline and 
    that i would never do anything to like that i just wanted my money and i was 
    told my money was always safe with them but then the say they are closing my 
    account and confiscating my money 
     
    if you have any other questions lou please contact me i will be happy to explain 
    more if needed i just want whats left in my account which is about 3900.00 
     
    thanks for your help 
     
     
    ---- Lou <Lou@sportsbookreview.com> wrote: 
    > Hi Jimmy, 
    > 
    >  
    > 
    > Is there anything you haven't told us? 
    > 
    >  
    > 
    > I've been informed the bulk of your winnings came against someone with the 
    > same registered physical address as you. can you comment? 
    > 
    >  
    > 
    > We really can't help if you won't tell us everything. 
    > 
    >  
    > 
    > Best regards, 
    > 
    > Lou 
    > 
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    hi Lou can you ask them to show you proof that it was same physical address 
    because i am the only person living at my apartment that play poker online or 
    bet online so i believe they are ling to you i have here an attach link to 
    covers.com where i have explain and have every email they emailed me 
    https://www.covers.com/postingforum/post01/showmessage.aspx?spt=9&sub=101090842 i 
    am jpham4 on covers.com 
     
    This is exactly what happened i went and deposit 100 via WU to betonline to play 
    poker and bet on sports and i sat down at a table and played with a guy named 
    klam90 won almost 5000 from him within a 2 hour period the next day i bet on 
    baseball and wnba and lost back almost 1300 back i had already made a request to 
    withdraw 2500 via WU then i went back and made another request for 800 via MG. I 
    then get an email saying they have 3 registered people name jimmy pham and 
    needed me to send in my utility bill and id which i did and that cleared and my 
    account was unsuspended but then the next day i get an email asking me to 
    explain it i was committing fraud with another player which i wasnt and i 
    explain that i didnt and dont know any other player that play on betonline and 
    that i would never do anything to like that i just wanted my money and i was 
    told my money was always safe with them but then the say they are closing my 
    account and confiscating my money 
     
    if you have any other questions lou please contact me i will be happy to explain 
    more if needed i just want whats left in my account which is about 3900.00 
     
    thanks for your help 
     
     
    ---- Lou <Lou@sportsbookreview.com> wrote: 
    > Hi Jimmy, 
    > 
    >  
    > 
    > Is there anything you haven't told us? 
    > 
    >  
    > 
    > I've been informed the bulk of your winnings came against someone with the 
    > same registered physical address as you. can you comment? 
    > 
    >  
    > 
    > We really can't help if you won't tell us everything. 
    > 
    >  
    > 
    > Best regards, 
    > 
    > Lou 
    > 
     
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    Posted: Jul. 16, 2011 - 12:21 AM ET #30

    this was an email sent to Lou on SBR but he has gone on to say i didnt reply to his email and accusing me of cheating and has block me from posting on sbr i guess he doesnt want me to hurt his sponsors image
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    this was an email sent to Lou on SBR but he has gone on to say i didnt reply to his email and accusing me of cheating and has block me from posting on sbr i guess he doesnt want me to hurt his sponsors image
     
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    Posted: Jul. 16, 2011 - 12:22 AM ET #31

    this was what he posted on SBR



    I received this complaint.



    The player was dishonest with us initially on multiple fronts, the largest that he had absolutely no idea who he was playing against in the poker room. BetOnline produced a clear log showing that 1. the totality of his play/winnings were against a player that A. shared the same physical address, B. shared the same IP address and C. both accounts were created the same day.

    Once we brought this to the player's attention, he hasn't been heard from since.
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    this was what he posted on SBR



    I received this complaint.



    The player was dishonest with us initially on multiple fronts, the largest that he had absolutely no idea who he was playing against in the poker room. BetOnline produced a clear log showing that 1. the totality of his play/winnings were against a player that A. shared the same physical address, B. shared the same IP address and C. both accounts were created the same day.

    Once we brought this to the player's attention, he hasn't been heard from since.
     
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    Posted: Jul. 16, 2011 - 12:25 AM ET #32

    I provided him with an email telling him my account was suspended earliar in the day becuase they said i had 2 accounts on their with the same name and address and i sent them a power bill stating my address and my name which is jimmy pham to my acknowledged when i talked to customer service the player they are accussing me of cheating with was name khanh lam i mean other then the am at the end of each last name i see the similarairty and they said i share IP address was false.  
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    I provided him with an email telling him my account was suspended earliar in the day becuase they said i had 2 accounts on their with the same name and address and i sent them a power bill stating my address and my name which is jimmy pham to my acknowledged when i talked to customer service the player they are accussing me of cheating with was name khanh lam i mean other then the am at the end of each last name i see the similarairty and they said i share IP address was false.  
     
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    Posted: Jul. 16, 2011 - 12:26 AM ET #33

    a guy on their try to defend me with the user name WVU but i cant answer to his question and give them my side of the story becuase they would not let me post on SBR 
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    a guy on their try to defend me with the user name WVU but i cant answer to his question and give them my side of the story becuase they would not let me post on SBR 
     
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    Posted: Jul. 16, 2011 - 12:30 AM ET #34

    i would like to know if anyone has ever gotten any success with lou over at sbr when you file a complaint against one of his top sponsors prolly not
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    i would like to know if anyone has ever gotten any success with lou over at sbr when you file a complaint against one of his top sponsors prolly not
     
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    Posted: Jul. 16, 2011 - 12:50 AM ET #35

    i sent them the money via WU and didnt use a CC so for players accusing me of chargeback i wish i could now because now i lost my deposit and profits
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    i sent them the money via WU and didnt use a CC so for players accusing me of chargeback i wish i could now because now i lost my deposit and profits
     
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    Posted: Jul. 16, 2011 - 1:02 AM ET #36

    if you guys that have a SBR account can help me post my post on SBR that would be great

    https://forum.sbrforum.com/sportsbooks-industry/1169671-betonline-accuses-player-chipdumping-confiscates-3900-a.html
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    if you guys that have a SBR account can help me post my post on SBR that would be great

    https://forum.sbrforum.com/sportsbooks-industry/1169671-betonline-accuses-player-chipdumping-confiscates-3900-a.html
     
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    Posted: Jul. 16, 2011 - 6:32 AM ET #37

    thanks for your help WVU
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    thanks for your help WVU
     
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    Posted: Jul. 16, 2011 - 7:34 AM ET #38

    Quote Originally Posted by MightyFury2k11:

    everyone on this site has experiences with bookies, they look on here because they are stiff pos.


    And you shouldn't look on here if you don't have any customers.  There's plenty of sport bars you can go to if you're looking for customers, i'm sure.
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    Quote Originally Posted by MightyFury2k11:

    everyone on this site has experiences with bookies, they look on here because they are stiff pos.


    And you shouldn't look on here if you don't have any customers.  There's plenty of sport bars you can go to if you're looking for customers, i'm sure.
     
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    Posted: Jul. 16, 2011 - 11:00 AM ET #39

    Quote Originally Posted by bustn2night:

    Now a major play for piece of shit local bookies to prey on weak minded local fools. Online gaming is fucked and the decent folk that want to have some weekend fun are screwed.

     

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    Quote Originally Posted by bustn2night:

    Now a major play for piece of shit local bookies to prey on weak minded local fools. Online gaming is fucked and the decent folk that want to have some weekend fun are screwed.

     

     
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    Posted: Jul. 16, 2011 - 11:38 AM ET #40

    Never played with betonline... but I just don't understand why people continue to play online casinos and poker.  It is not regulated... it can be rigged... and it is their word versus yours.

    Regardless of if this player cheated or did not... there will never be evidence.  When you bet on sports at least you have your wager history and can print the ticket off immediately to confirm. 

    I have never been accused of "cheating" on a sports wager... ever...

    Stick to casinos and local card games if you want to play poker, blackjack, etc... internet = trouble
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    Never played with betonline... but I just don't understand why people continue to play online casinos and poker.  It is not regulated... it can be rigged... and it is their word versus yours.

    Regardless of if this player cheated or did not... there will never be evidence.  When you bet on sports at least you have your wager history and can print the ticket off immediately to confirm. 

    I have never been accused of "cheating" on a sports wager... ever...

    Stick to casinos and local card games if you want to play poker, blackjack, etc... internet = trouble
     
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    Posted: Jul. 16, 2011 - 5:58 PM ET #41

    I asked about your case at sbr and the right people are talking about it. You need to head over there and if you really want the money start being honest about everything. Don't admit guilt after being caught, I have serious doubts about you but it should at least be heard. Covers is probably too busy to look into this for you.
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    I asked about your case at sbr and the right people are talking about it. You need to head over there and if you really want the money start being honest about everything. Don't admit guilt after being caught, I have serious doubts about you but it should at least be heard. Covers is probably too busy to look into this for you.
     
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    Posted: Jul. 17, 2011 - 11:23 PM ET #42

    to be honest i have no issues with betonline poker software or there site. my sn is he-haw25 on betonline poker ill challenge any of you donks lol. but honestly jfam this site is stepping on colission problems and people who have the same mac address on the table. you might be right that you dont know anyone on betonline but if your using a bot or colliding with someone it is very easy for betonline to see if your cheating. the tiger software that they use is new to the poker industry but it is very safe to play with gl to you though if you did not cheat but for some reason i feel your not telling the whole truth
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    to be honest i have no issues with betonline poker software or there site. my sn is he-haw25 on betonline poker ill challenge any of you donks lol. but honestly jfam this site is stepping on colission problems and people who have the same mac address on the table. you might be right that you dont know anyone on betonline but if your using a bot or colliding with someone it is very easy for betonline to see if your cheating. the tiger software that they use is new to the poker industry but it is very safe to play with gl to you though if you did not cheat but for some reason i feel your not telling the whole truth
     
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    Posted: Jul. 18, 2011 - 2:01 PM ET #43

    Quote Originally Posted by jpham4:

    they confiscated my funds 3900.00 worth and they closed my account took my funds and will not pay me. they are accusing me of fradulent activity when i didnt do anything i deposited 100 in there book played poker and won almost 5000 lost some back betting on sports and ask to withdraw 2500 and 800
     and a day later they sent me an email 

    Hi Jimmy 
     
    I am very sorry but the behavior detected is very obvious. 
     
    This behavior is considered serious fraudulent activity. 
     
    It is reason enough to close your account permanently and confiscate all funds. 
     
    Best regards, 
     
    Daniel M, 
    The Payment Team 


    this book is fraud i shouldnt have deposit to play poker on thier site i been playing poker on full tilt since 2006 and never have i encouter a problem like i have at this book what a scam i need help getting my funds 
    please help if anyone can

    tahnks

    I am sorry to everyone on covers if i have misled you to believe betonline was scamming me i was just frustrated that they decided to close my account and confiscate my money but i did indeed participate in chip dumping and was in violation of the rules and have lied about it in multiple forums  i am truly sorry for all this i just wanted my money and i am sorry for making betonline look bad as a result of my lie


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    Quote Originally Posted by jpham4:

    they confiscated my funds 3900.00 worth and they closed my account took my funds and will not pay me. they are accusing me of fradulent activity when i didnt do anything i deposited 100 in there book played poker and won almost 5000 lost some back betting on sports and ask to withdraw 2500 and 800
     and a day later they sent me an email 

    Hi Jimmy 
     
    I am very sorry but the behavior detected is very obvious. 
     
    This behavior is considered serious fraudulent activity. 
     
    It is reason enough to close your account permanently and confiscate all funds. 
     
    Best regards, 
     
    Daniel M, 
    The Payment Team 


    this book is fraud i shouldnt have deposit to play poker on thier site i been playing poker on full tilt since 2006 and never have i encouter a problem like i have at this book what a scam i need help getting my funds 
    please help if anyone can

    tahnks

    I am sorry to everyone on covers if i have misled you to believe betonline was scamming me i was just frustrated that they decided to close my account and confiscate my money but i did indeed participate in chip dumping and was in violation of the rules and have lied about it in multiple forums  i am truly sorry for all this i just wanted my money and i am sorry for making betonline look bad as a result of my lie


     
    MightyFury2k11
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    Posted: Jul. 18, 2011 - 3:00 PM ET #44

    lmaoooooooooooooooooooo 

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    lmaoooooooooooooooooooo 

     
    kaponofor3
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    Posted: Jul. 18, 2011 - 4:06 PM ET #45

    Quote Originally Posted by jpham4:


    I am sorry to everyone on covers if i have misled you to believe betonline was scamming me i was just frustrated that they decided to close my account and confiscate my money but i did indeed participate in chip dumping and was in violation of the rules and have lied about it in multiple forums  i am truly sorry for all this i just wanted my money and i am sorry for making betonline look bad as a result of my lie






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    Quote Originally Posted by jpham4:


    I am sorry to everyone on covers if i have misled you to believe betonline was scamming me i was just frustrated that they decided to close my account and confiscate my money but i did indeed participate in chip dumping and was in violation of the rules and have lied about it in multiple forums  i am truly sorry for all this i just wanted my money and i am sorry for making betonline look bad as a result of my lie






     
    PapaXmas
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    Posted: Jul. 18, 2011 - 6:09 PM ET #46

    Ive never had one issue with Betonline.com, in fact if you look at my profile they are my favorite book. Drake over there is a former USA air force pilot. Ive had some nice talks with him managing my $$$ over there. I find it hard to believe that they are going to cry over peanuts. Ive cashed out $799 moneygrams on them daily and they are the quickest payout ive come across. $799 is max you can takeout on moneygram, I had a streak in december where I took out $799 about 10 days in row. Usually only books that get piss poor ratings from SBR are the one's to pull scam/stunts like that. 
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    Ive never had one issue with Betonline.com, in fact if you look at my profile they are my favorite book. Drake over there is a former USA air force pilot. Ive had some nice talks with him managing my $$$ over there. I find it hard to believe that they are going to cry over peanuts. Ive cashed out $799 moneygrams on them daily and they are the quickest payout ive come across. $799 is max you can takeout on moneygram, I had a streak in december where I took out $799 about 10 days in row. Usually only books that get piss poor ratings from SBR are the one's to pull scam/stunts like that. 
     
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    Posted: Jul. 19, 2011 - 4:16 AM ET #47

    Quote Originally Posted by jpham4:


    I am sorry to everyone on covers if i have misled you to believe betonline was scamming me i was just frustrated that they decided to close my account and confiscate my money but i did indeed participate in chip dumping and was in violation of the rules and have lied about it in multiple forums  i am truly sorry for all this i just wanted my money and i am sorry for making betonline look bad as a result of my lie



    ALL I CAN SAY IS WOW...
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    Quote Originally Posted by jpham4:


    I am sorry to everyone on covers if i have misled you to believe betonline was scamming me i was just frustrated that they decided to close my account and confiscate my money but i did indeed participate in chip dumping and was in violation of the rules and have lied about it in multiple forums  i am truly sorry for all this i just wanted my money and i am sorry for making betonline look bad as a result of my lie



    ALL I CAN SAY IS WOW...
     
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    Posted: Jul. 19, 2011 - 8:07 PM ET #48

    Quote Originally Posted by jpham4:


    I am sorry to everyone on covers if i have misled you to believe betonline was scamming me i was just frustrated that they decided to close my account and confiscate my money but i did indeed participate in chip dumping and was in violation of the rules and have lied about it in multiple forums  i am truly sorry for all this i just wanted my money and i am sorry for making betonline look bad as a result of my lie
                     Wow, dude thats lower than low .   come on!    You need to look in the mirror and check your self ....

     

     



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    Quote Originally Posted by jpham4:


    I am sorry to everyone on covers if i have misled you to believe betonline was scamming me i was just frustrated that they decided to close my account and confiscate my money but i did indeed participate in chip dumping and was in violation of the rules and have lied about it in multiple forums  i am truly sorry for all this i just wanted my money and i am sorry for making betonline look bad as a result of my lie
                     Wow, dude thats lower than low .   come on!    You need to look in the mirror and check your self ....

     

     



     
    Gilberto
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    Posted: Jul. 20, 2011 - 1:43 AM ET #49

    Quote Originally Posted by jpham4:


    I am sorry to everyone on covers if i have misled you to believe betonline was scamming me i was just frustrated that they decided to close my account and confiscate my money but i did indeed participate in chip dumping and was in violation of the rules and have lied about it in multiple forums  i am truly sorry for all this i just wanted my money and i am sorry for making betonline look bad as a result of my lie


    Damn dude, someeone come to your house and kick your ass?? I'm just curious because you are announcing your a terrible conman??? It appears that you are typing under deress

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    Quote Originally Posted by jpham4:


    I am sorry to everyone on covers if i have misled you to believe betonline was scamming me i was just frustrated that they decided to close my account and confiscate my money but i did indeed participate in chip dumping and was in violation of the rules and have lied about it in multiple forums  i am truly sorry for all this i just wanted my money and i am sorry for making betonline look bad as a result of my lie


    Damn dude, someeone come to your house and kick your ass?? I'm just curious because you are announcing your a terrible conman??? It appears that you are typing under deress

     
     
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    Posted: Jul. 20, 2011 - 3:33 AM ET #50

    is this the same book that is trying to lure VIP players?
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    is this the same book that is trying to lure VIP players?
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