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    Bet Guardian

    Topshelfer
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    Topshelfer
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    Posted: Feb. 2, 2012 - 4:05 PM ET #1

    Just an FYI...opened an account at Bet Guardian/Just Bet and was stiffed for $1100. Got the runaround from my new friends Charles and Kenny. Thing is that things were actually cool - until I requested a payout...hmmm... funny how that happens at about the same time at most small time places...well like I said just an FYI
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    Just an FYI...opened an account at Bet Guardian/Just Bet and was stiffed for $1100. Got the runaround from my new friends Charles and Kenny. Thing is that things were actually cool - until I requested a payout...hmmm... funny how that happens at about the same time at most small time places...well like I said just an FYI
     
    Shark79
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    Posted: Feb. 3, 2012 - 9:53 AM ET #2

    TS,

    First off JB and BetGuardian are not the same.  They are within the same buidling, but have completely different management.

    Secondly, I am concerned about this payout issue, if you would like to contact me via Chat or Call me up, ask for Nathan and I will help you if this is a JB issue, if this is directed with BG, I will have someone contact you if you can provide me your account number so we can get this matter solved.

    We are not a small shop, we have been in the business for over a decade, we simply decide to be under the radar.


    Hope I can assist.

    Best Regards,

    Nathan (Shark79)
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    TS,

    First off JB and BetGuardian are not the same.  They are within the same buidling, but have completely different management.

    Secondly, I am concerned about this payout issue, if you would like to contact me via Chat or Call me up, ask for Nathan and I will help you if this is a JB issue, if this is directed with BG, I will have someone contact you if you can provide me your account number so we can get this matter solved.

    We are not a small shop, we have been in the business for over a decade, we simply decide to be under the radar.


    Hope I can assist.

    Best Regards,

    Nathan (Shark79)
     
    Topshelfer
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    Posted: Feb. 3, 2012 - 1:29 PM ET #3

    ok thanks for the distinction - I had an account at each of those books set up by the same folks so you will forgive my confusion - but I digress...

    Nathan, you should be concerned about this payout issue - as I am pretty sure your one of the oh so helpful folks who kept telling me "the money order is in the mail"when I called to ask where it was...I never said anything about you being a small shop - you did - I could care less if you are a microscopic shop - just fucking pay me...we have a VERY simple issue here my new good friend Nathan - $1100...and my not receiving it. As your tag line reads" Hope I can assist" yeah me too  just send me a check - preferrably one that doesn't bounce.

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    ok thanks for the distinction - I had an account at each of those books set up by the same folks so you will forgive my confusion - but I digress...

    Nathan, you should be concerned about this payout issue - as I am pretty sure your one of the oh so helpful folks who kept telling me "the money order is in the mail"when I called to ask where it was...I never said anything about you being a small shop - you did - I could care less if you are a microscopic shop - just fucking pay me...we have a VERY simple issue here my new good friend Nathan - $1100...and my not receiving it. As your tag line reads" Hope I can assist" yeah me too  just send me a check - preferrably one that doesn't bounce.

     
    Topshelfer
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    Posted: Feb. 4, 2012 - 9:49 PM ET #4

    Well, no check yet - but they did close my account apparently...I hope someone is enjoying my loot down there - clowns...
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    Well, no check yet - but they did close my account apparently...I hope someone is enjoying my loot down there - clowns...
     
    Topshelfer
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    Posted: Feb. 6, 2012 - 11:56 AM ET #5

    well still no check - I guess the best I can hope for is that this post scares some potential depositors away from them. 
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    well still no check - I guess the best I can hope for is that this post scares some potential depositors away from them. 
     
    Theone324
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    Posted: Feb. 6, 2012 - 2:28 PM ET #6

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    Mark_The_Narc
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    Posted: Feb. 6, 2012 - 3:58 PM ET #7

    Your trust level should be ZERO with this SHARK character.

    In  a previous thread he mentions he SPOKE to Nathan and in this thread he is Nathan. 

    Life lesson-Stay away from people who speak to themselves.

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    Your trust level should be ZERO with this SHARK character.

    In  a previous thread he mentions he SPOKE to Nathan and in this thread he is Nathan. 

    Life lesson-Stay away from people who speak to themselves.

     
    KktdocT
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    Posted: Feb. 7, 2012 - 10:10 AM ET #8

    shady businness, report to all members.
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    shady businness, report to all members.
     
    Lou
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    Posted: Feb. 7, 2012 - 10:41 AM ET #9

    Hey Topshelfer,

    PM me your account # and I will have my contact look into what the hold up here is.

    Lou.  

     

      

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    Hey Topshelfer,

    PM me your account # and I will have my contact look into what the hold up here is.

    Lou.  

     

      

     
    Topshelfer
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    Posted: Feb. 8, 2012 - 9:32 AM ET #10

    wow - one of y'all has some serious juice! Not sure if it is you or not Lou (if not - thanks for the offer to help). These cats finally sent my check by courier after my last phone call with them. They offered to send it to show their good faith - I don't want good faith - I want my loot, so I thought it was the usual BS story about how the check really is in the mail, blah blah blah - but I actully got it this morning!!!!! I'm going to see if it cashes - but hell I didn't think I would get this far. So in the interest of full disclosure - it appears they do pay. I'll let y'all know if this bounces like barkley when he walks or not.
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    wow - one of y'all has some serious juice! Not sure if it is you or not Lou (if not - thanks for the offer to help). These cats finally sent my check by courier after my last phone call with them. They offered to send it to show their good faith - I don't want good faith - I want my loot, so I thought it was the usual BS story about how the check really is in the mail, blah blah blah - but I actully got it this morning!!!!! I'm going to see if it cashes - but hell I didn't think I would get this far. So in the interest of full disclosure - it appears they do pay. I'll let y'all know if this bounces like barkley when he walks or not.
     
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    Posted: Feb. 8, 2012 - 5:48 PM ET #11

    I have used Bet Guardian for years and the checks have showed up when they're supposed to and have never bounced. The key complaint I have about them though is, after I hit a couple of 7 team parlays, they set a $10 limit on ALL my future parlays and lowered the payouts on them roughly by 20%. When I asked  a manager why I was told it was because I'm in the $1.05 club (5% juice) and the parlay payouts were set too high.

    The reality is they didn't like losing $1000 plus on small parlay bets (believe it or not $10 parlays) and were trying to discourage me from betting them. It worked as I now play my parlays elsewhere.

       One more thing that bugs me about them is, when I'm in the middle of placing a wager with them online, sometimes there'll be a line change and it's never been in my favor. This has happened over a 100 times, I'd say. I might add they are not the only book where this happens.

       God, I miss BetJamaica. Their operations were totally aboveboard but the sad reality is payout difficulties to Americans  was probably one of the biggest reasons they closed. Unfortunately, BetGuardian and other sportsbooks are currently faced with these same difficulties and it's probably just a matter of time before our Gestapo-like Justice Dept. forces them all to quit dealing with Americans.

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    I have used Bet Guardian for years and the checks have showed up when they're supposed to and have never bounced. The key complaint I have about them though is, after I hit a couple of 7 team parlays, they set a $10 limit on ALL my future parlays and lowered the payouts on them roughly by 20%. When I asked  a manager why I was told it was because I'm in the $1.05 club (5% juice) and the parlay payouts were set too high.

    The reality is they didn't like losing $1000 plus on small parlay bets (believe it or not $10 parlays) and were trying to discourage me from betting them. It worked as I now play my parlays elsewhere.

       One more thing that bugs me about them is, when I'm in the middle of placing a wager with them online, sometimes there'll be a line change and it's never been in my favor. This has happened over a 100 times, I'd say. I might add they are not the only book where this happens.

       God, I miss BetJamaica. Their operations were totally aboveboard but the sad reality is payout difficulties to Americans  was probably one of the biggest reasons they closed. Unfortunately, BetGuardian and other sportsbooks are currently faced with these same difficulties and it's probably just a matter of time before our Gestapo-like Justice Dept. forces them all to quit dealing with Americans.

     
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    Posted: Feb. 16, 2012 - 4:54 PM ET #12

    OK - let's finish this up - the check cleared so I'm good.
     
    Recap --> They took too long to pay and spouted a bunch of BS repeatedly when I called for 2 weeks asking for a status or tracking number - but I got paid and it cleared so, it is what it is.
     
    If you have done this for a while, then you probably have been stiffed before (yeah I'm talking about you blowdog/blovada/whatever) but at least I got paid, so if you use Betguardian then you'll get paid - it just takes a while and you get to listen to stories until the loot shows up.
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    OK - let's finish this up - the check cleared so I'm good.
     
    Recap --> They took too long to pay and spouted a bunch of BS repeatedly when I called for 2 weeks asking for a status or tracking number - but I got paid and it cleared so, it is what it is.
     
    If you have done this for a while, then you probably have been stiffed before (yeah I'm talking about you blowdog/blovada/whatever) but at least I got paid, so if you use Betguardian then you'll get paid - it just takes a while and you get to listen to stories until the loot shows up.
     
     
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    Posted: Feb. 16, 2012 - 5:45 PM ET #13

    wow thanks for the review i was thinking about opening up an account with them but not now i will tell my friends about this to thanks Topshlefer i will be taking my buisness elsewere
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    wow thanks for the review i was thinking about opening up an account with them but not now i will tell my friends about this to thanks Topshlefer i will be taking my buisness elsewere
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