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    papagunnz
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    Posted: May. 25, 2011 - 6:21 PM ET #51

    Quote Originally Posted by Freedom@Stake:

    I will start with the news that many people have already suspected: betEd is closed and will not be reopening.

    But there is more news: All of the player funds have been seized. 

    That is not a typo. There is no money left. The American government has it all.

    Now, this isn't the first time sportsbooks have gone out of business, so you might be wondering why Covers feels the need to make an official statement about the status of betEd.

    It is simple. They were at the top of our Top Sportsbooks list, and this is the first time in 16 years that we have ever recommended a sportsbook that went out of business without paying their customers.

    And it is a damn shame.

    It wasn't their fault. They got entrapped by a sting run by the American government, and now the American government has seized all of their bank accounts and holds your money.

    I've already heard people complaining that betEd must have been shitty businessmen to lose the player deposits.

    Nope. That was all accounted for. They ran a small, but very professional shop. They intentionally tried to stay below the big government radar. They made business decisions based on the idea that sometimes it was a good idea to leave a little bit of profit on the table if it meant that they would be more secure.

    None of that mattered. The money was seized.

    That is scary.

    But I will end this post on a positive note. And by "positive" I mean, I am positive of one thing: Anybody owed money by betEd will get it back.

    That's right. You heard it here first. 

    We at Covers.com don't take kindly to having our clients money stolen from them. Hell, it makes us look bad. We recommended those guys to you.

    We will do everything in our power to get your money back and in your hands. We are going to ask, beg, talk, whine, shout, whisper, or write to whoever it takes to get that money released to the players.

    That is a promise.


    well you wouldnt look bad if you didnt fabricate a list of fraudulent books to recommend to players.... you had to of known boasting a book like BetED as your num 1 was gonna come back and smack you in the face...and now your gonna hear the heat about it, and you should!! you lost a LOT of people a LOT of money all because they trusted YOU and your "list"
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    Quote Originally Posted by Freedom@Stake:

    I will start with the news that many people have already suspected: betEd is closed and will not be reopening.

    But there is more news: All of the player funds have been seized. 

    That is not a typo. There is no money left. The American government has it all.

    Now, this isn't the first time sportsbooks have gone out of business, so you might be wondering why Covers feels the need to make an official statement about the status of betEd.

    It is simple. They were at the top of our Top Sportsbooks list, and this is the first time in 16 years that we have ever recommended a sportsbook that went out of business without paying their customers.

    And it is a damn shame.

    It wasn't their fault. They got entrapped by a sting run by the American government, and now the American government has seized all of their bank accounts and holds your money.

    I've already heard people complaining that betEd must have been shitty businessmen to lose the player deposits.

    Nope. That was all accounted for. They ran a small, but very professional shop. They intentionally tried to stay below the big government radar. They made business decisions based on the idea that sometimes it was a good idea to leave a little bit of profit on the table if it meant that they would be more secure.

    None of that mattered. The money was seized.

    That is scary.

    But I will end this post on a positive note. And by "positive" I mean, I am positive of one thing: Anybody owed money by betEd will get it back.

    That's right. You heard it here first. 

    We at Covers.com don't take kindly to having our clients money stolen from them. Hell, it makes us look bad. We recommended those guys to you.

    We will do everything in our power to get your money back and in your hands. We are going to ask, beg, talk, whine, shout, whisper, or write to whoever it takes to get that money released to the players.

    That is a promise.


    well you wouldnt look bad if you didnt fabricate a list of fraudulent books to recommend to players.... you had to of known boasting a book like BetED as your num 1 was gonna come back and smack you in the face...and now your gonna hear the heat about it, and you should!! you lost a LOT of people a LOT of money all because they trusted YOU and your "list"
     
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    Posted: May. 25, 2011 - 6:55 PM ET #52

    Freedom/Lou,

    if you guys are going to fight on behalf of us who got jacked in this, how do yo envision the government figuring out who is owed what? My god this entire thing just gives me a headache.
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    Freedom/Lou,

    if you guys are going to fight on behalf of us who got jacked in this, how do yo envision the government figuring out who is owed what? My god this entire thing just gives me a headache.
     
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    Posted: May. 25, 2011 - 7:35 PM ET #53

    THE US GOVERNMENT SEIZED THE MONEY IN PLAYERS ACCOUNTS SO BetED couldnt run off with OUR money.  Who you gonna trust MORE in this situation??  BetED lawyers , or the US Government ??
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    THE US GOVERNMENT SEIZED THE MONEY IN PLAYERS ACCOUNTS SO BetED couldnt run off with OUR money.  Who you gonna trust MORE in this situation??  BetED lawyers , or the US Government ??
     
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    Posted: May. 25, 2011 - 7:57 PM ET #54

    Do you honestly believe the us government has our money?  The skumbag owners from BetEd took the money and ran. They are going to hell, and they'll be taking the owner of this site with them. These people STOLE MONEY FROM INNOCENT PEOPLE. And the people affiliated with this site lied to everyone to cover their own asses. 24 hours ago it was the "owners of BetEd assure players their funds are safe" to Lou. They must have said while they were transferring our money to a Cayman bank. It's ok though, because the owner of this shit site has pledged to get our money back. Boy, I'll sleep a lot better tonight. Obviously BetEd is despicable, but did the owner of this site DEFENDED THEIR OWNERS. THEY TOOK THE MONEY AND RAN AND YOU KNOW IT. FUCK YOU.
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    Do you honestly believe the us government has our money?  The skumbag owners from BetEd took the money and ran. They are going to hell, and they'll be taking the owner of this site with them. These people STOLE MONEY FROM INNOCENT PEOPLE. And the people affiliated with this site lied to everyone to cover their own asses. 24 hours ago it was the "owners of BetEd assure players their funds are safe" to Lou. They must have said while they were transferring our money to a Cayman bank. It's ok though, because the owner of this shit site has pledged to get our money back. Boy, I'll sleep a lot better tonight. Obviously BetEd is despicable, but did the owner of this site DEFENDED THEIR OWNERS. THEY TOOK THE MONEY AND RAN AND YOU KNOW IT. FUCK YOU.
     
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    Posted: May. 25, 2011 - 8:28 PM ET #55

    Bed-Ed did not respond in "goof faith" to initial actions by the DOJ and requests to stop taking wagers. Once the DOJ felt they had given the site enough time to respond and not receiving anything contructive from owners and top-end management, they felt the only thing they could do to get their full attention was something very drastic. LOCK DOWN THE SITE AND ALL LINKED BANK ACCOUNTS IMMEDIATELY.

    Now that they have BetEd's attention, they will just make an example of them as a warning to other site operators to make sure they immediately stop accepting deposits, wagers, and activity from US players.

    (Lou and other covers guys, you can check on this story with your connections. You will find mostly all of this is 100% TRUE)

    The DOJ does not issue empty threats folks. Even though I'm Cdn, I know this for a fact. When they come knocking, you may as well answer cause you can rest assurred that they are fully prepared to take the ENTIRE HOUSE down.

    I can pretty much say that all BetEd did was "Attempt" to avoid the DOJ and try to open other bank accounts, websites etc to keep the business running. Once the DOJ realized this was their plan, they IMMEDIATELY froze all bank accounts and affiliated websites.

    FACT: BetEd was simply just not as prepared for something like this as other books and poker sites are. They were NOT deserving of the #1 spot on covers.

    It will take prolly 7 days or less for all the management, owners etc to spend the remaining money that they have in their pockets, and then after about a week or so, they probably wont even have enough money left to buy a pack of smokes with.

    Trust me after this next 7 days, these "execs" will not GIVE A FUCK about their "reputation" and will not do anything more to make sure ALL players get their money back. Trust me once they are broke and un-able to travel to most places, you'll never hear from them again.

    I say the best chance players have to get their funds back are after a few months of DOJ going through all the BetEd records, player files, account info etc. They will know EVERYTHING. Especially about the "big players" and their balances.

    As a cdn, I also use processors from sportsbooks to deposit and receive funds. For now I will be withdrawing ALL FUNDS while I know the jurisdiction for this is not gonna touch cdn players for now, the processors are still getting affected and could in fact hurt my chances of pulling out funds over the Summer if some of the actual processors go UNDER as well.

    GOOD-LUCK ALL TO ALL US PLAYERS. GET YOUR MONEY BACK!!

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    Bed-Ed did not respond in "goof faith" to initial actions by the DOJ and requests to stop taking wagers. Once the DOJ felt they had given the site enough time to respond and not receiving anything contructive from owners and top-end management, they felt the only thing they could do to get their full attention was something very drastic. LOCK DOWN THE SITE AND ALL LINKED BANK ACCOUNTS IMMEDIATELY.

    Now that they have BetEd's attention, they will just make an example of them as a warning to other site operators to make sure they immediately stop accepting deposits, wagers, and activity from US players.

    (Lou and other covers guys, you can check on this story with your connections. You will find mostly all of this is 100% TRUE)

    The DOJ does not issue empty threats folks. Even though I'm Cdn, I know this for a fact. When they come knocking, you may as well answer cause you can rest assurred that they are fully prepared to take the ENTIRE HOUSE down.

    I can pretty much say that all BetEd did was "Attempt" to avoid the DOJ and try to open other bank accounts, websites etc to keep the business running. Once the DOJ realized this was their plan, they IMMEDIATELY froze all bank accounts and affiliated websites.

    FACT: BetEd was simply just not as prepared for something like this as other books and poker sites are. They were NOT deserving of the #1 spot on covers.

    It will take prolly 7 days or less for all the management, owners etc to spend the remaining money that they have in their pockets, and then after about a week or so, they probably wont even have enough money left to buy a pack of smokes with.

    Trust me after this next 7 days, these "execs" will not GIVE A FUCK about their "reputation" and will not do anything more to make sure ALL players get their money back. Trust me once they are broke and un-able to travel to most places, you'll never hear from them again.

    I say the best chance players have to get their funds back are after a few months of DOJ going through all the BetEd records, player files, account info etc. They will know EVERYTHING. Especially about the "big players" and their balances.

    As a cdn, I also use processors from sportsbooks to deposit and receive funds. For now I will be withdrawing ALL FUNDS while I know the jurisdiction for this is not gonna touch cdn players for now, the processors are still getting affected and could in fact hurt my chances of pulling out funds over the Summer if some of the actual processors go UNDER as well.

    GOOD-LUCK ALL TO ALL US PLAYERS. GET YOUR MONEY BACK!!

     
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    Posted: May. 25, 2011 - 8:40 PM ET #56

    Its not covers or EVEN BetEds fault. I had an account there. Lost my ass but WE all knew the gov was shitty. It was only a matter of time. 
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    Its not covers or EVEN BetEds fault. I had an account there. Lost my ass but WE all knew the gov was shitty. It was only a matter of time. 
     
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    Posted: May. 25, 2011 - 8:42 PM ET #57

    Quote Originally Posted by bettor2win:

    Its not covers or EVEN BetEds fault. I had an account there. Lost my ass but WE all knew the gov was shitty. It was only a matter of time. 

    not all sites were target by the government and Beted is the only one to shut down. 
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    Quote Originally Posted by bettor2win:

    Its not covers or EVEN BetEds fault. I had an account there. Lost my ass but WE all knew the gov was shitty. It was only a matter of time. 

    not all sites were target by the government and Beted is the only one to shut down. 
     
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    Posted: May. 25, 2011 - 8:44 PM ET #58

    My question is why didnt they offer a 500% sign-up and re-load bonus with 3x rollover??

    Oh I guess THAT would be too obvoius...

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    My question is why didnt they offer a 500% sign-up and re-load bonus with 3x rollover??

    Oh I guess THAT would be too obvoius...

     
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    Posted: May. 25, 2011 - 8:57 PM ET #59

    If the US Governement has seized all of the player accounts (and money in these accounts), they now have a list of every US customer who had an account.

    Are US Consumers at risk of having these accounts?

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    If the US Governement has seized all of the player accounts (and money in these accounts), they now have a list of every US customer who had an account.

    Are US Consumers at risk of having these accounts?

     
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    Posted: May. 25, 2011 - 9:13 PM ET #60

    Quote Originally Posted by cubd80:

    If the US Governement has seized all of the player accounts (and money in these accounts), they now have a list of every US customer who had an account.

    Are US Consumers at risk of having these accounts?


    I got 2 friends in the DOJ and asked them about this and they said they are investigating those who won the most (bigger players, those who withdrew over 1K a week on average) on evasion of taxes grounds. Smaller players are safe.
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    Quote Originally Posted by cubd80:

    If the US Governement has seized all of the player accounts (and money in these accounts), they now have a list of every US customer who had an account.

    Are US Consumers at risk of having these accounts?


    I got 2 friends in the DOJ and asked them about this and they said they are investigating those who won the most (bigger players, those who withdrew over 1K a week on average) on evasion of taxes grounds. Smaller players are safe.
     
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    Posted: May. 25, 2011 - 9:14 PM ET #61

    But yes, they have every US account holder's information. Sucks, I have an account there but I only made one deposit and lost it all.
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    But yes, they have every US account holder's information. Sucks, I have an account there but I only made one deposit and lost it all.
     
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    Posted: May. 25, 2011 - 11:28 PM ET #62

    They have all my information including my drivers license Just. I work for the government and I have no reason to think that I will be contacted.
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    They have all my information including my drivers license Just. I work for the government and I have no reason to think that I will be contacted.
     
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    Posted: May. 25, 2011 - 11:28 PM ET #63

    It's only money people, it can be replaced
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    It's only money people, it can be replaced
     
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    Quote Originally Posted by LRM704:

    It's only money people, it can be replaced


    Do you have diarrhea? At the least, you are very boring?

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    Quote Originally Posted by LRM704:

    It's only money people, it can be replaced


    Do you have diarrhea? At the least, you are very boring?

     
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    Posted: May. 26, 2011 - 1:01 AM ET #65

    Would someone like to tell me why the poker room is up and running if the sportsbook has been seized.


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    Would someone like to tell me why the poker room is up and running if the sportsbook has been seized.


     
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    Posted: May. 26, 2011 - 1:04 AM ET #66

    Quote Originally Posted by killakrzydav:

    Would someone like to tell me why the poker room is up and running if the sportsbook has been seized.


    Which sportsbook?

    Gambling is only a problem when your losing!
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    Quote Originally Posted by killakrzydav:

    Would someone like to tell me why the poker room is up and running if the sportsbook has been seized.


    Which sportsbook?

     
    gamble04
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    Posted: May. 26, 2011 - 1:09 AM ET #67

    My main concern is will other books follow with what happened to beted.
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    My main concern is will other books follow with what happened to beted.
     
    killakrzydav
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    Posted: May. 26, 2011 - 1:18 AM ET #68

    BetEd of course.  A poker room recommended by Lou himself. 
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    BetEd of course.  A poker room recommended by Lou himself. 
     
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    Posted: May. 26, 2011 - 2:16 AM ET #69

    Quote Originally Posted by esplanade:



    Do you have diarrhea? At the least, you are very boring?

       No diarrhea but thanks for asking. How's that bruised vagina of yours ?  
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    Quote Originally Posted by esplanade:



    Do you have diarrhea? At the least, you are very boring?

       No diarrhea but thanks for asking. How's that bruised vagina of yours ?  
     
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    Posted: May. 26, 2011 - 2:48 AM ET #70

    Freedom@Stake -
    "But I will end this post on a positive note. And by "positive" I mean, I am positive of one thing: Anybody owed money by betEd will get it back.

    That's right. You heard it here first. 

    We at Covers.com don't take kindly to having our clients money stolen from them. Hell, it makes us look bad. We recommended those guys to you."
     
    "I am positive of one thing: Anybody owed money by betEd will get it back."
     
    Does this mean that covers.com will personally repay the people robbed by this scam sportsbook, which is using the seizure of a small amount of their funds that they had at a payment processor as an excuse to rob the customers you sent to them?
     
    Or is this pure hot air?
     
     
     
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    Freedom@Stake -
    "But I will end this post on a positive note. And by "positive" I mean, I am positive of one thing: Anybody owed money by betEd will get it back.

    That's right. You heard it here first. 

    We at Covers.com don't take kindly to having our clients money stolen from them. Hell, it makes us look bad. We recommended those guys to you."
     
    "I am positive of one thing: Anybody owed money by betEd will get it back."
     
    Does this mean that covers.com will personally repay the people robbed by this scam sportsbook, which is using the seizure of a small amount of their funds that they had at a payment processor as an excuse to rob the customers you sent to them?
     
    Or is this pure hot air?
     
     
     
     
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    Posted: May. 26, 2011 - 2:50 AM ET #71

    Quote Originally Posted by LRM704:

    It's only money people, it can be replaced

    Start replacing it yourself then, windbag.

     

     

     

     

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    Quote Originally Posted by LRM704:

    It's only money people, it can be replaced

    Start replacing it yourself then, windbag.

     

     

     

     

     
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    Posted: May. 26, 2011 - 2:56 AM ET #72

    Quote Originally Posted by LRM704:

    It's only money people, it can be replaced


    So let me get this straight...

    You are on a GAMBLING FORUM, and you are telling people "it's only money."

    This isn't DrPhil.com. You don't know how much money/how much this money means to people. For all you know, some of these people rely on this money to pay the bills.

    Cmon man.
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    Quote Originally Posted by LRM704:

    It's only money people, it can be replaced


    So let me get this straight...

    You are on a GAMBLING FORUM, and you are telling people "it's only money."

    This isn't DrPhil.com. You don't know how much money/how much this money means to people. For all you know, some of these people rely on this money to pay the bills.

    Cmon man.
     
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    Posted: May. 26, 2011 - 8:06 AM ET #73

    sorry folks but the feds can seize the records and begin going after players.....its called tax evasion....one friend here just got out of prison for 3 years in a fed pen for the same offense....

    i reccommend you start a legal defense fund if you won money and never put it on your taxes as income.....

    Feds are pricks....

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    sorry folks but the feds can seize the records and begin going after players.....its called tax evasion....one friend here just got out of prison for 3 years in a fed pen for the same offense....

    i reccommend you start a legal defense fund if you won money and never put it on your taxes as income.....

    Feds are pricks....

     
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    Posted: May. 26, 2011 - 9:20 AM ET #74

    Quote Originally Posted by rpuck1:

    sorry folks but the feds can seize the records and begin going after players.....its called tax evasion....one friend here just got out of prison for 3 years in a fed pen for the same offense....

    i reccommend you start a legal defense fund if you won money and never put it on your taxes as income.....

    Feds are pricks....


    yeah but chief, they also know how much you've LOST at the sportsbook, which covers most people on here.
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    Quote Originally Posted by rpuck1:

    sorry folks but the feds can seize the records and begin going after players.....its called tax evasion....one friend here just got out of prison for 3 years in a fed pen for the same offense....

    i reccommend you start a legal defense fund if you won money and never put it on your taxes as income.....

    Feds are pricks....


    yeah but chief, they also know how much you've LOST at the sportsbook, which covers most people on here.
     
     
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    Posted: May. 26, 2011 - 10:26 AM ET #75

    The person who created this thread is a terrible human being.  He is trying to push all responsibility away from covers and beted, and onto the US government.

    If BetEd was a credibile book, they could have avoided this.  If Covers.com wasn't a joke, they would not have recommended BetEd as a #1 book.

    Covers made hundreds of thousands of dollars in advertising money from a poor sportsbook, and gave them a top rating in exchange.  BetEd made millions of dollars from all of it's customers.  Everyone got rich, except for the little guy who visits this site and trusted it's recommendations.  Covers.com should never be trusted ever again.

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    The person who created this thread is a terrible human being.  He is trying to push all responsibility away from covers and beted, and onto the US government.

    If BetEd was a credibile book, they could have avoided this.  If Covers.com wasn't a joke, they would not have recommended BetEd as a #1 book.

    Covers made hundreds of thousands of dollars in advertising money from a poor sportsbook, and gave them a top rating in exchange.  BetEd made millions of dollars from all of it's customers.  Everyone got rich, except for the little guy who visits this site and trusted it's recommendations.  Covers.com should never be trusted ever again.

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