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    30 Day Detox Final Summary

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    Posted: Oct. 5, 2011 - 5:44 PM ET #1

    i started my 30 day detox program on 8/18. 

    to call it a detox program is accurate but doesn't really reflect the purpose.  it was not a weight loss program.  i didn't mind losing a couple of popunds but didn't want to lose more then 3-4 at most.  i drink on the weekends and only smoke marijuana a couple of times a year so i wasn't detoxing for that reaon.  

    basically, i've been having pain and inflammation in my joints for a long time now, probably since 1993.  i attributed it to wear and tear from playing sports and working out constantly and probably not with the best form and with proper stretching.  i quit working out in the gym in 2004 but the pain didn't subside very much.  stretching more helped but didn't solve the problem. 

    ultimately, i figured that my diet was the problem but i just never took the necessary steps to confirm it.  the detox program was designed to eliminate all possible foods that could cause my inflammation, see if that made a difference and then bring them back incrementally to try and pinpoint the problem.

    that's what i did with almost 100% success.  i was successful in eliminating all possible bad foods- grains/wheat/gluten, (added) sugar, nuts, tomatoes/eggplant/potatoes, dairy, foods with pesticides, fungicides, antibiotics and hormones. 

    what were the results?  my inflammation and pain were almost 100% gone within a few days.  i hadn't felt that good since prior to 1993.  the diet kind of sucked but i got used to it and it was well worth it. 

    what caused the problem?  this is where i didn't have 100% success.  i was hoping for a one word answer- dairy or sugar or gluten.  i started adding foods back every few days after about the 25th day.  tomatoes were not a problem.  nuts were not a problem.  potatoes were not a problem.  rice was a little bit of a problem but not much. 

    the issue is i probably brought the most suspicious culprits back to fast and the effects blended in.  i think dairy is fine but may cause a little problem. i don't consume much dairy but i do prefer to use whey protein from grass fed cows in my morning shake and that may be a little bit of an issue (brown rice protein powder tastes like shit by the way). 

    the last two i brought back were sugar and gluten.  i had a decent amount of sugar for about 3 days before the gluten.  the inflammation didn't come back all the way but i could tell a difference.  but how long does it take for the effects to manifest?  at the end, i did bring back gluten.  over the weekend, i had pancakes, bread, pasta and whatever else. 

    today, i feel as bad as i did before the program.  gluten is definitely a major problem. it needs to be eliminated.  sugar is probably a problem but may be ok in small doses.  same with dairy. 

    anyway, the program was a success.  diet can and did fix my problems and i'm pretty sure i know the causes.  gluten for sure and sugar and dairy to a lesser extent need to be eliminated.

    going forward, i will eliminate them as much as possible and only eat them on special occasions.

    i recommend this to everyone.  if anyone has any questions, let me know. 

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    To remove first post, remove entire topic.

    i started my 30 day detox program on 8/18. 

    to call it a detox program is accurate but doesn't really reflect the purpose.  it was not a weight loss program.  i didn't mind losing a couple of popunds but didn't want to lose more then 3-4 at most.  i drink on the weekends and only smoke marijuana a couple of times a year so i wasn't detoxing for that reaon.  

    basically, i've been having pain and inflammation in my joints for a long time now, probably since 1993.  i attributed it to wear and tear from playing sports and working out constantly and probably not with the best form and with proper stretching.  i quit working out in the gym in 2004 but the pain didn't subside very much.  stretching more helped but didn't solve the problem. 

    ultimately, i figured that my diet was the problem but i just never took the necessary steps to confirm it.  the detox program was designed to eliminate all possible foods that could cause my inflammation, see if that made a difference and then bring them back incrementally to try and pinpoint the problem.

    that's what i did with almost 100% success.  i was successful in eliminating all possible bad foods- grains/wheat/gluten, (added) sugar, nuts, tomatoes/eggplant/potatoes, dairy, foods with pesticides, fungicides, antibiotics and hormones. 

    what were the results?  my inflammation and pain were almost 100% gone within a few days.  i hadn't felt that good since prior to 1993.  the diet kind of sucked but i got used to it and it was well worth it. 

    what caused the problem?  this is where i didn't have 100% success.  i was hoping for a one word answer- dairy or sugar or gluten.  i started adding foods back every few days after about the 25th day.  tomatoes were not a problem.  nuts were not a problem.  potatoes were not a problem.  rice was a little bit of a problem but not much. 

    the issue is i probably brought the most suspicious culprits back to fast and the effects blended in.  i think dairy is fine but may cause a little problem. i don't consume much dairy but i do prefer to use whey protein from grass fed cows in my morning shake and that may be a little bit of an issue (brown rice protein powder tastes like shit by the way). 

    the last two i brought back were sugar and gluten.  i had a decent amount of sugar for about 3 days before the gluten.  the inflammation didn't come back all the way but i could tell a difference.  but how long does it take for the effects to manifest?  at the end, i did bring back gluten.  over the weekend, i had pancakes, bread, pasta and whatever else. 

    today, i feel as bad as i did before the program.  gluten is definitely a major problem. it needs to be eliminated.  sugar is probably a problem but may be ok in small doses.  same with dairy. 

    anyway, the program was a success.  diet can and did fix my problems and i'm pretty sure i know the causes.  gluten for sure and sugar and dairy to a lesser extent need to be eliminated.

    going forward, i will eliminate them as much as possible and only eat them on special occasions.

    i recommend this to everyone.  if anyone has any questions, let me know. 

     
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    Posted: Oct. 5, 2011 - 6:24 PM ET #2

    Interesting experiment there.  Congrats on your discipline on that

    I couldn't go 36 hours on that diet.

    Sugar

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    Interesting experiment there.  Congrats on your discipline on that

    I couldn't go 36 hours on that diet.

    Sugar

     
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    Posted: Oct. 6, 2011 - 4:43 PM ET #3

    You could have got those same results from prayer my brother

    Good Job old boy.
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    You could have got those same results from prayer my brother

    Good Job old boy.
     
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    Posted: Oct. 6, 2011 - 5:08 PM ET #4

    Well done Club, very impressive and glad to see that you have discovered the problem and your discipline is incredible sir 
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    Well done Club, very impressive and glad to see that you have discovered the problem and your discipline is incredible sir 
     
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    Posted: Oct. 6, 2011 - 5:18 PM ET #5

    og, i bet you're right.  i think some pain is mental and prayer and/or meditation would probably be beneficial.

     

    thanks ad.  once you get into it, it gets easier, especially when the results become evident, although i never got used to brown rice protein powder. 

    after i eat all the sugar and gluten crap in my house and i take my wife to dinner for her birthday this week, i'm going back to a mostly sugar free and gluten free diet, makign exceptions for special occasions only.  as much as i like certain foods with gluten or sugar (pizza, beer, hamburgers w/ the bun, etc), it just isn't worth it for me. 

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    og, i bet you're right.  i think some pain is mental and prayer and/or meditation would probably be beneficial.

     

    thanks ad.  once you get into it, it gets easier, especially when the results become evident, although i never got used to brown rice protein powder. 

    after i eat all the sugar and gluten crap in my house and i take my wife to dinner for her birthday this week, i'm going back to a mostly sugar free and gluten free diet, makign exceptions for special occasions only.  as much as i like certain foods with gluten or sugar (pizza, beer, hamburgers w/ the bun, etc), it just isn't worth it for me. 

     
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    Posted: Oct. 6, 2011 - 5:18 PM ET #6

    thanks fried.  no doubt, sugar (and gluten) are the enemy.
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    thanks fried.  no doubt, sugar (and gluten) are the enemy.
     
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    Posted: Oct. 6, 2011 - 5:20 PM ET #7

    Glad you were able to tell what specifically affects you. Sugar , dairy and starches are not essential for the human body to thrive so it is best to keep them to a minimum.
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    Glad you were able to tell what specifically affects you. Sugar , dairy and starches are not essential for the human body to thrive so it is best to keep them to a minimum.
     
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    Posted: Oct. 6, 2011 - 6:18 PM ET #8

    Quote Originally Posted by sharpaction:

    Glad you were able to tell what specifically affects you. Sugar , dairy and starches are not essential for the human body to thrive so it is best to keep them to a minimum.

     

    thought you might surface today.  best of luck this season. 

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    Quote Originally Posted by sharpaction:

    Glad you were able to tell what specifically affects you. Sugar , dairy and starches are not essential for the human body to thrive so it is best to keep them to a minimum.

     

    thought you might surface today.  best of luck this season. 

     
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    Posted: Oct. 6, 2011 - 6:54 PM ET #9

    what sort of items have gluten in them anyway?
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    what sort of items have gluten in them anyway?
     
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    Posted: Oct. 6, 2011 - 7:33 PM ET #10

    Quote Originally Posted by ad1260:

    what sort of items have gluten in them anyway?

    that's a good question because gluten is found in so many foods.  basically, it comes from  wheat but also barley and rye.  

    but it shows up in a lot of places.  as an examplel, even some chewing gum has gluten, in that white powder that keeps it from sticking to the wrapper.  it's cheap and helps thicken and bind food.

    the easy answer is in will be in all breads, cakes, pastries, pizza doughs, and many sauces, unless they are specifically renderd gluten free.  but the list is long.  here are three links i recommend.  the first is a good discussion about gluten.  the second are foods that contain gluten.  the third are foods/ingredients that don't contain gluten.  of course, you can go to health food stores and buy foods that normally have gluten but have been made gluten free.

    gluten

    foods with gluten

    gluten free foods

    there is a lot of information out there about gluten.  i suggest running a few google searches if you are interested.




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    Quote Originally Posted by ad1260:

    what sort of items have gluten in them anyway?

    that's a good question because gluten is found in so many foods.  basically, it comes from  wheat but also barley and rye.  

    but it shows up in a lot of places.  as an examplel, even some chewing gum has gluten, in that white powder that keeps it from sticking to the wrapper.  it's cheap and helps thicken and bind food.

    the easy answer is in will be in all breads, cakes, pastries, pizza doughs, and many sauces, unless they are specifically renderd gluten free.  but the list is long.  here are three links i recommend.  the first is a good discussion about gluten.  the second are foods that contain gluten.  the third are foods/ingredients that don't contain gluten.  of course, you can go to health food stores and buy foods that normally have gluten but have been made gluten free.

    gluten

    foods with gluten

    gluten free foods

    there is a lot of information out there about gluten.  i suggest running a few google searches if you are interested.




     
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    Posted: Oct. 11, 2011 - 1:21 PM ET #11

    I am curious about what you ended up eating during the detox.  You describe what you cut out but not what you ended up eating.
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    I am curious about what you ended up eating during the detox.  You describe what you cut out but not what you ended up eating.
     
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    Quote Originally Posted by mattbrot:

    I am curious about what you ended up eating during the detox.  You describe what you cut out but not what you ended up eating.

    when you don't eat wheat/gluten, (added) sugar, nuts, dairy, tomatos, and potatos, the list of things you can eat is still pretty decent. 

    for breakfast, i almost always have a shake, except sometimes on the weekends i'll have eggs with some ham.  however, i had to change the shake and it got a lot worse.  my normal shake is: organic berries, half a banana, almonds, coconut milk, whey protein. 

    i had to eliminate the banana (fruit was ok but not bananas, gapes or watermelon), the almonds, the whey protein and the coconut milk.  i probably could have kept the unsweetend coconut milk but i used water instead just to be safe.  i used brown rice protein powder for the whey protein and it was terrible.  i also added cinnamon and flax seed.  needless to say, it was not good.  

    for lunch, i made a salad everyday with organic vegetables- different types of lettuce, radishes, carrots, celery.  i would often add a deli meet from a company that didn't use antibiotics, hormones, etc.  applegate is a pretty popular brand.

    for dinner, i ate pretty much what i usually ate- any clean meat was ok and an organic vegetable.  sometimes a sweet potato, small amount of brown rice, leeks, etc.

    one good dinner i have about once a week whether i was on detox or not is a large salad with a meat like bacon or chicken and avocados and eggs.  that will fill you up because it has a lot of good fat. 

    for dessert, maybe an apple, grapefruit, cantalope or other fruit.

    and i would work some eggs into the mix as well.  i always put a hard boiled on my salad when it's available, although i'd prefer it if the eggs came from a reliable source that doesn't have the chickens sit in a cage all day eating grains. 

    but basically, you're fine with clean fruits (but not bananas, grapes and watermelons), vegetables and meats.  some brown rice is fine.  eggs are fine.  sweet potatos are fine.  if you have a decent health food store in your area, you can find these things and some other ideas that you might not be aware of. 

    if you have any specific questions, let me know. 

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    Quote Originally Posted by mattbrot:

    I am curious about what you ended up eating during the detox.  You describe what you cut out but not what you ended up eating.

    when you don't eat wheat/gluten, (added) sugar, nuts, dairy, tomatos, and potatos, the list of things you can eat is still pretty decent. 

    for breakfast, i almost always have a shake, except sometimes on the weekends i'll have eggs with some ham.  however, i had to change the shake and it got a lot worse.  my normal shake is: organic berries, half a banana, almonds, coconut milk, whey protein. 

    i had to eliminate the banana (fruit was ok but not bananas, gapes or watermelon), the almonds, the whey protein and the coconut milk.  i probably could have kept the unsweetend coconut milk but i used water instead just to be safe.  i used brown rice protein powder for the whey protein and it was terrible.  i also added cinnamon and flax seed.  needless to say, it was not good.  

    for lunch, i made a salad everyday with organic vegetables- different types of lettuce, radishes, carrots, celery.  i would often add a deli meet from a company that didn't use antibiotics, hormones, etc.  applegate is a pretty popular brand.

    for dinner, i ate pretty much what i usually ate- any clean meat was ok and an organic vegetable.  sometimes a sweet potato, small amount of brown rice, leeks, etc.

    one good dinner i have about once a week whether i was on detox or not is a large salad with a meat like bacon or chicken and avocados and eggs.  that will fill you up because it has a lot of good fat. 

    for dessert, maybe an apple, grapefruit, cantalope or other fruit.

    and i would work some eggs into the mix as well.  i always put a hard boiled on my salad when it's available, although i'd prefer it if the eggs came from a reliable source that doesn't have the chickens sit in a cage all day eating grains. 

    but basically, you're fine with clean fruits (but not bananas, grapes and watermelons), vegetables and meats.  some brown rice is fine.  eggs are fine.  sweet potatos are fine.  if you have a decent health food store in your area, you can find these things and some other ideas that you might not be aware of. 

    if you have any specific questions, let me know. 

     
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    Posted: Oct. 11, 2011 - 2:58 PM ET #13

    Quote Originally Posted by mattbrot:

    I am curious about what you ended up eating during the detox.  You describe what you cut out but not what you ended up eating.

     

    this isn't exactly what i did but it's pretty similar.  someone sent this to me after i finished mine.  it's a lot better at telling you what you can't eat than what you can but it'll give you a pretty good idea of what this kind of program is about. 

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    Quote Originally Posted by mattbrot:

    I am curious about what you ended up eating during the detox.  You describe what you cut out but not what you ended up eating.

     

    this isn't exactly what i did but it's pretty similar.  someone sent this to me after i finished mine.  it's a lot better at telling you what you can't eat than what you can but it'll give you a pretty good idea of what this kind of program is about. 

     
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    Posted: Oct. 12, 2011 - 7:34 PM ET #14

    Why no bananas, grapes, or watermelon?  Is that because of the sugar?

    Or how their grown?
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    Why no bananas, grapes, or watermelon?  Is that because of the sugar?

    Or how their grown?
     
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    Posted: Oct. 12, 2011 - 8:41 PM ET #15

    Quote Originally Posted by atl4tigerfan:

    Why no bananas, grapes, or watermelon?  Is that because of the sugar?

    Or how their grown?


    i think because they have a higher sugar content but i would say they are fine in moderation normally.  certainly better than a lot of things people eat.  i use banana every morning in my smoothie, but only half a banana a day.
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    Quote Originally Posted by atl4tigerfan:

    Why no bananas, grapes, or watermelon?  Is that because of the sugar?

    Or how their grown?


    i think because they have a higher sugar content but i would say they are fine in moderation normally.  certainly better than a lot of things people eat.  i use banana every morning in my smoothie, but only half a banana a day.
     
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    Posted: Oct. 13, 2011 - 9:31 AM ET #16

    also why no tomatoes?

    I have seen places that say that tomatoes are considered one of the "super foods"
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    also why no tomatoes?

    I have seen places that say that tomatoes are considered one of the "super foods"
     
     
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    Posted: Oct. 13, 2011 - 1:04 PM ET #17

    Quote Originally Posted by mattbrot:

    also why no tomatoes?

    I have seen places that say that tomatoes are considered one of the "super foods"


    read this.  when i have a question about a food, i go to this website (among others) and type in the food and usually find good info.   also, ask sharpaction. 

    as for me, i eat nightshades, although i limit potatoes and try to eat more sweet potatoes with butter.  i don't have a bad reaction to tomatoes and otehr nightshades so i don't see any problem.  but some people do.  i would say if you tolerate tomatoes without a problem, eat them as much as you'd like although i would try and get local tomatoes as opposed to what they sell in the chain grocery stores.
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    Quote Originally Posted by mattbrot:

    also why no tomatoes?

    I have seen places that say that tomatoes are considered one of the "super foods"


    read this.  when i have a question about a food, i go to this website (among others) and type in the food and usually find good info.   also, ask sharpaction. 

    as for me, i eat nightshades, although i limit potatoes and try to eat more sweet potatoes with butter.  i don't have a bad reaction to tomatoes and otehr nightshades so i don't see any problem.  but some people do.  i would say if you tolerate tomatoes without a problem, eat them as much as you'd like although i would try and get local tomatoes as opposed to what they sell in the chain grocery stores.
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