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    2 Cardio Mistakes you’re probably STILL Making!

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    Posted: Apr. 15, 2009 - 4:22 PM ET #1

    Obviously, there is a lot of interest in cardio training and how to do it right. Sadly, most people are still doing 2 things terribly wrong and it’s killing their results.

    As I thought about reviewing the newest scientific study from Australia this week, or explaining the post workout "after burn effect" (EPOC) that comes from intense forms of cardio, it dawned on me to backtrack, and ask…

    "WHY are people still confused about fat burning cardio in the first place when the solution is drop dead simple, common sense and right in front of our noses?"

    I thought to myself,

    "If I could help remove the SOURCE of the confusion, then regardless of which cardio program you choose, every decision and action that emerges from your new understanding would be more productive right?"

    RIGHT!
    As best as I can figure, there are two major reasons why people are still mucking up their cardio programs for fat loss.


    REASON #1 NOT ENOUGH FOCUS ON TOTAL CALORIES BURNED

    Most people aren’t burning enough darn calories. Why? Well, I guess they are too busy worrying about the "proper" type of exercise (which machine or activity), the "optimal" mode (steady state or intervals), the "perfect" ratio of intervals, or the "best" duration. Some people coast along on the treadmill at 2.3 miles per hour or some similar sloth-like pace and they think that just by hitting a TIME goal, such as 45 or 60 minutes, that with "X" duration completed, they are assured to get the results they want. On the other extreme, we have folks who have found or created some mega-intense, super-duper short training protocol like the "4-minute wonder workout from Japan." Just because the workout is high in intensity and it is performed in intervals, they too think they are assured to get the results they want. What’s missing in both cases is the realization that total fat loss is a function of total calories burned (assuming you don’t blow your diet, of course). AND… Total calories burned is a product of INTENSITY times DURATION, not intensity OR duration. Too much focus on one variable at the exclusion of the other can lead to a less than optimal total calorie burn and disappointing results. And remember, intensity and duration are *variables* not absolutes! ("Variable" means you can change them… even if your "guru" sez you can’t!) When you understand the relationship and interplay between INTENSITY X DURATION you will find a "SWEET SPOT" where the product of those variables produces the maximal calorie burn and maximum fat loss, based on your current health condition and your need for time efficiency.

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    To remove first post, remove entire topic.
    Obviously, there is a lot of interest in cardio training and how to do it right. Sadly, most people are still doing 2 things terribly wrong and it’s killing their results.

    As I thought about reviewing the newest scientific study from Australia this week, or explaining the post workout "after burn effect" (EPOC) that comes from intense forms of cardio, it dawned on me to backtrack, and ask…

    "WHY are people still confused about fat burning cardio in the first place when the solution is drop dead simple, common sense and right in front of our noses?"

    I thought to myself,

    "If I could help remove the SOURCE of the confusion, then regardless of which cardio program you choose, every decision and action that emerges from your new understanding would be more productive right?"

    RIGHT!
    As best as I can figure, there are two major reasons why people are still mucking up their cardio programs for fat loss.


    REASON #1 NOT ENOUGH FOCUS ON TOTAL CALORIES BURNED

    Most people aren’t burning enough darn calories. Why? Well, I guess they are too busy worrying about the "proper" type of exercise (which machine or activity), the "optimal" mode (steady state or intervals), the "perfect" ratio of intervals, or the "best" duration. Some people coast along on the treadmill at 2.3 miles per hour or some similar sloth-like pace and they think that just by hitting a TIME goal, such as 45 or 60 minutes, that with "X" duration completed, they are assured to get the results they want. On the other extreme, we have folks who have found or created some mega-intense, super-duper short training protocol like the "4-minute wonder workout from Japan." Just because the workout is high in intensity and it is performed in intervals, they too think they are assured to get the results they want. What’s missing in both cases is the realization that total fat loss is a function of total calories burned (assuming you don’t blow your diet, of course). AND… Total calories burned is a product of INTENSITY times DURATION, not intensity OR duration. Too much focus on one variable at the exclusion of the other can lead to a less than optimal total calorie burn and disappointing results. And remember, intensity and duration are *variables* not absolutes! ("Variable" means you can change them… even if your "guru" sez you can’t!) When you understand the relationship and interplay between INTENSITY X DURATION you will find a "SWEET SPOT" where the product of those variables produces the maximal calorie burn and maximum fat loss, based on your current health condition and your need for time efficiency.

     
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    Posted: Apr. 15, 2009 - 4:38 PM ET #2

    I have been told that the calories burned during the actual exercise process are minimal compared to the rest of the day. 
     
    The cardio is basically to just keep the metabolism high.
     
     
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    I have been told that the calories burned during the actual exercise process are minimal compared to the rest of the day. 
     
    The cardio is basically to just keep the metabolism high.
     
     
     
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    Posted: Apr. 15, 2009 - 6:28 PM ET #3

    very true,it's all about eating right
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    very true,it's all about eating right
     
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    Posted: Apr. 15, 2009 - 7:16 PM ET #4

    Quote Originally Posted by trainer4u2:

    very true,it's all about eating right

    Do you a substitute for chocolate ice cream and beer?

    That is my main problem.

    I like your treadmill analogy.  I see people on these treadmills for an hour and they are skinny AND fat.  That is a worst case situation

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    Quote Originally Posted by trainer4u2:

    very true,it's all about eating right

    Do you a substitute for chocolate ice cream and beer?

    That is my main problem.

    I like your treadmill analogy.  I see people on these treadmills for an hour and they are skinny AND fat.  That is a worst case situation

     
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    Posted: Apr. 15, 2009 - 7:16 PM ET #5

    A "skinny fat" which is gross
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    A "skinny fat" which is gross
     
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    Posted: Apr. 15, 2009 - 10:15 PM ET #6

    doens't interval training assist with the burning calories both during and after excerise, whereas you are just focusing on calories burned during exercise?
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    doens't interval training assist with the burning calories both during and after excerise, whereas you are just focusing on calories burned during exercise?
     
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    Posted: Apr. 15, 2009 - 11:13 PM ET #7

    correct, when you are doing cardio the first 15 min gets your target hate rate, 30 min starts burning fat and calories. interval training assist with the burning calories both during and but not after excerise, you need to burn what you intake.
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    correct, when you are doing cardio the first 15 min gets your target hate rate, 30 min starts burning fat and calories. interval training assist with the burning calories both during and but not after excerise, you need to burn what you intake.
     
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    Posted: Apr. 16, 2009 - 12:04 AM ET #8

    How do we explain all the fat fucks on the treadmills?
     
    Ripped people do not touch treadmills
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    How do we explain all the fat fucks on the treadmills?
     
    Ripped people do not touch treadmills
     
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    Posted: Apr. 16, 2009 - 12:05 AM ET #9

    Treadmills is too easy.
     
    SPIKING the heart rate and kicking the metabolism, combined with some muscle and good eating is the recipeola.
     
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    Treadmills is too easy.
     
    SPIKING the heart rate and kicking the metabolism, combined with some muscle and good eating is the recipeola.
     
     
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    Posted: Apr. 16, 2009 - 12:07 AM ET #10

    I'm not ripped yet but used to be ripped.  When I was ripped, never touched a treadmill.  Sure, I played hoops but that is stop and go.
     
    Now, I just eat chocolate ice cream.
     
     
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    I'm not ripped yet but used to be ripped.  When I was ripped, never touched a treadmill.  Sure, I played hoops but that is stop and go.
     
    Now, I just eat chocolate ice cream.
     
     
     
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    Posted: Apr. 16, 2009 - 12:24 AM ET #11

    Quote Originally Posted by FriedShrimp:

    Treadmills is too easy.
     
    SPIKING the heart rate and kicking the metabolism, combined with some muscle and good eating is the recipeola.
     


    treadmills can be made hard. you're just not trying
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    Quote Originally Posted by FriedShrimp:

    Treadmills is too easy.
     
    SPIKING the heart rate and kicking the metabolism, combined with some muscle and good eating is the recipeola.
     


    treadmills can be made hard. you're just not trying
     
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    Posted: Apr. 16, 2009 - 12:33 AM ET #12

    That's what my fucking trainer said today.  We have to dig deeper
     
    No sissy indoor treadmills my friend.  Outdoor manly stuff.
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    That's what my fucking trainer said today.  We have to dig deeper
     
    No sissy indoor treadmills my friend.  Outdoor manly stuff.
     
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    Posted: Apr. 16, 2009 - 12:37 AM ET #13

    The good thing about the indoor treadmills/bicycles is there are TVs there though .... can tune in like 7 channels at once !!
     
    Can get rocking with the Food channel, ESPN, the Deuce, little MSNBC, Oprah, and some Latino Soap Operas
     
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    The good thing about the indoor treadmills/bicycles is there are TVs there though .... can tune in like 7 channels at once !!
     
    Can get rocking with the Food channel, ESPN, the Deuce, little MSNBC, Oprah, and some Latino Soap Operas
     
     
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    Posted: Apr. 16, 2009 - 12:41 AM ET #14

    And the strippers roll in around 2 pm......
     
    Like nobody notices that?
     
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    And the strippers roll in around 2 pm......
     
    Like nobody notices that?
     
     
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    Posted: Apr. 16, 2009 - 12:12 PM ET #15

    Quote Originally Posted by FriedShrimp:

    How do we explain all the fat fucks on the treadmills?
     
    Ripped people do not touch treadmills


    rip people don't eat like fat fucks! those fat fuck thinks the holy pill is out there
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    Quote Originally Posted by FriedShrimp:

    How do we explain all the fat fucks on the treadmills?
     
    Ripped people do not touch treadmills


    rip people don't eat like fat fucks! those fat fuck thinks the holy pill is out there
     
     
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    Posted: Apr. 16, 2009 - 12:13 PM ET #16

    as far as treadmill goes it's not about top speed it's about incline and not holding on!
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    as far as treadmill goes it's not about top speed it's about incline and not holding on!
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