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    Posted: Jun. 12, 2014 - 12:05 AM ET #1

    If I take Brazil moneyline -350 and the game ties... Do I lose my bet or is it considered a tie????? Someone please helppp
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    To remove first post, remove entire topic.
    If I take Brazil moneyline -350 and the game ties... Do I lose my bet or is it considered a tie????? Someone please helppp
     
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    Posted: Jun. 12, 2014 - 12:10 AM ET #2

    Lost the bet.

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    Lost the bet.

     
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    Posted: Jun. 12, 2014 - 12:23 AM ET #3

    Thanks dude shit sucks
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    Thanks dude shit sucks
     
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    Posted: Jun. 12, 2014 - 12:37 AM ET #4

    If you think it could draw or Brazil win by one point, why don't take Croatia +1.5 points?.
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    If you think it could draw or Brazil win by one point, why don't take Croatia +1.5 points?.
     
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    Posted: Jun. 12, 2014 - 8:52 AM ET #5

    Incorrect. A ML bet means you win even if , it's by 1, no point spread to cover just a win. Therefore a tie means you don't win but you also don't lose so it , is a push.

    That's why you have the Brazil- 1 line at a lower price at- 200 because a tie would mean a loss. A 1 point win would mean a push for you. They would need to,win,the game by 2 goals to win that bet.

    I'm looking at same play Brazil ML I don't see them,losing so worse case is a tie and the bet is a push.
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    Incorrect. A ML bet means you win even if , it's by 1, no point spread to cover just a win. Therefore a tie means you don't win but you also don't lose so it , is a push.

    That's why you have the Brazil- 1 line at a lower price at- 200 because a tie would mean a loss. A 1 point win would mean a push for you. They would need to,win,the game by 2 goals to win that bet.

    I'm looking at same play Brazil ML I don't see them,losing so worse case is a tie and the bet is a push.
     
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    Posted: Jun. 12, 2014 - 9:25 AM ET #6

    You folks appear to have no idea what you're talking about. A tie is a loss on a "-1" bet, a tie is a push on a "pick" bet.
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    You folks appear to have no idea what you're talking about. A tie is a loss on a "-1" bet, a tie is a push on a "pick" bet.
     
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    Posted: Jun. 12, 2014 - 9:26 AM ET #7

    A tie is also a loss on a moneyline (Brazil to win) bet
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    A tie is also a loss on a moneyline (Brazil to win) bet
     
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    Posted: Jun. 12, 2014 - 10:26 AM ET #8


    If you think a ties a push on soccer ML's, then just pass on the world cup bro..
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    If you think a ties a push on soccer ML's, then just pass on the world cup bro..
     
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    Posted: Jun. 12, 2014 - 10:55 AM ET #9

    Quote Originally Posted by billsneedhelp:

    Incorrect. A ML bet means you win even if , it's by 1, no point spread to cover just a win. Therefore a tie means you don't win but you also don't lose so it , is a push.

    That's why you have the Brazil- 1 line at a lower price at- 200 because a tie would mean a loss. A 1 point win would mean a push for you. They would need to,win,the game by 2 goals to win that bet.

    I'm looking at same play Brazil ML I don't see them,losing so worse case is a tie and the bet is a push.

    This is very misleading.

    If you bet Brazil -1 and they win by exactly one goal, yes it's push.  But if you bet Brazil ML (not pk'em, VERY different) and the mach is a draw, ML LOSES.
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    Quote Originally Posted by billsneedhelp:

    Incorrect. A ML bet means you win even if , it's by 1, no point spread to cover just a win. Therefore a tie means you don't win but you also don't lose so it , is a push.

    That's why you have the Brazil- 1 line at a lower price at- 200 because a tie would mean a loss. A 1 point win would mean a push for you. They would need to,win,the game by 2 goals to win that bet.

    I'm looking at same play Brazil ML I don't see them,losing so worse case is a tie and the bet is a push.

    This is very misleading.

    If you bet Brazil -1 and they win by exactly one goal, yes it's push.  But if you bet Brazil ML (not pk'em, VERY different) and the mach is a draw, ML LOSES.
     
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    Posted: Jun. 12, 2014 - 10:58 AM ET #10

    Billsneedhelp.. You need some help. Brazil ML loses if the game is a DRAW. That's why there is a DRAW bet.
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    Billsneedhelp.. You need some help. Brazil ML loses if the game is a DRAW. That's why there is a DRAW bet.
     
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    Posted: Jun. 12, 2014 - 1:26 PM ET #11

    Ok this is my first time betting on soccer. In any other sport ML and pk is the same thing. A tie woukd be a push. This is very confusing to an incoming bettor the way the lines work in soccer. Why not just have a line at -.5 instead of ML? That makes much more mathematical sense.
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    Ok this is my first time betting on soccer. In any other sport ML and pk is the same thing. A tie woukd be a push. This is very confusing to an incoming bettor the way the lines work in soccer. Why not just have a line at -.5 instead of ML? That makes much more mathematical sense.
     
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    Posted: Jun. 12, 2014 - 1:32 PM ET #12

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    Posted: Jun. 12, 2014 - 1:33 PM ET #13

    Quote Originally Posted by billsneedhelp:

    Incorrect. A ML bet means you win even if , it's by 1, no point spread to cover just a win. Therefore a tie means you don't win but you also don't lose so it , is a push.

    That's why you have the Brazil- 1 line at a lower price at- 200 because a tie would mean a loss. A 1 point win would mean a push for you. They would need to,win,the game by 2 goals to win that bet.

    I'm looking at same play Brazil ML I don't see them,losing so worse case is a tie and the bet is a push.

    It's a loss in soccer d^mb@ss
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    Quote Originally Posted by billsneedhelp:

    Incorrect. A ML bet means you win even if , it's by 1, no point spread to cover just a win. Therefore a tie means you don't win but you also don't lose so it , is a push.

    That's why you have the Brazil- 1 line at a lower price at- 200 because a tie would mean a loss. A 1 point win would mean a push for you. They would need to,win,the game by 2 goals to win that bet.

    I'm looking at same play Brazil ML I don't see them,losing so worse case is a tie and the bet is a push.

    It's a loss in soccer d^mb@ss
     
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    Posted: Jun. 12, 2014 - 1:33 PM ET #14

    I have the Same wager and you better believe it hits.  If the teams draw I will LOSE my wager.  I think Brazil wins even though Croatia have a pretty good squad.

    Brazil (-350) 

    Risking 4.375 Units to Win 1.25

    BOL


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    I have the Same wager and you better believe it hits.  If the teams draw I will LOSE my wager.  I think Brazil wins even though Croatia have a pretty good squad.

    Brazil (-350) 

    Risking 4.375 Units to Win 1.25

    BOL


     
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    Posted: Jun. 12, 2014 - 1:41 PM ET #15

    People saying that if you tie you push...take your head out of the sand. If a tie was a push why is there an option to bet on a tie?? 

    Anyhow:

    Brazil -1.5

    Yes Croatia is pretty good but they were horrendous down the stretch so much so that they got a new head coach. 

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    People saying that if you tie you push...take your head out of the sand. If a tie was a push why is there an option to bet on a tie?? 

    Anyhow:

    Brazil -1.5

    Yes Croatia is pretty good but they were horrendous down the stretch so much so that they got a new head coach. 

     
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    Posted: Jun. 12, 2014 - 1:46 PM ET #16

    Quote Originally Posted by billsneedhelp:

    Ok this is my first time betting on soccer. In any other sport ML and pk is the same thing. A tie woukd be a push. This is very confusing to an incoming bettor the way the lines work in soccer. Why not just have a line at -.5 instead of ML? That makes much more mathematical sense.

    Some do, but any time you see the draw as one of the three options, that's a "3 way" line and you must get a win when you pick a side.  I think hockey lines are similar, when you wager for regulation only.
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    Quote Originally Posted by billsneedhelp:

    Ok this is my first time betting on soccer. In any other sport ML and pk is the same thing. A tie woukd be a push. This is very confusing to an incoming bettor the way the lines work in soccer. Why not just have a line at -.5 instead of ML? That makes much more mathematical sense.

    Some do, but any time you see the draw as one of the three options, that's a "3 way" line and you must get a win when you pick a side.  I think hockey lines are similar, when you wager for regulation only.
     
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    Posted: Jun. 12, 2014 - 1:59 PM ET #17

    BK: hockey ML are not regulation only. There are no ties so you either win/lose, unlike soccer
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    BK: hockey ML are not regulation only. There are no ties so you either win/lose, unlike soccer
     
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    Quote Originally Posted by tbeckham:

    BK: hockey ML are not regulation only. There are no ties so you either win/lose, unlike soccer

    I think for hockey some books do offer a 3way line where you can bet draw as an option.  That might be for regular season only, as there are no draws/ties in the playoffs.
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    Quote Originally Posted by tbeckham:

    BK: hockey ML are not regulation only. There are no ties so you either win/lose, unlike soccer

    I think for hockey some books do offer a 3way line where you can bet draw as an option.  That might be for regular season only, as there are no draws/ties in the playoffs.
     
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    Posted: Jun. 12, 2014 - 2:15 PM ET #19

    Just to clear everything up....

    If you bet the ML in soccer you have 3 choices Team A Team B or DRAW.

    Some books also have a seperate point spread line of -.5/+.5 or -1/+1 or PK/PK

    If you chose the point spread lines it works just like any other sport where there is a point spread.

    If you don't want to get burned by a DRAW I suggest betting on the pick'em spread if there is one.

    Some books also offer a NTL option this is a "not to lose" wager. This also protects against a DRAW costing you money.
    You can also create your own NTL wager by putting part of your money on a team's ML and part on the DRAW of the same game.

    "Bet the farm!" "GO WHERE THE MONEY IS!"
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    Just to clear everything up....

    If you bet the ML in soccer you have 3 choices Team A Team B or DRAW.

    Some books also have a seperate point spread line of -.5/+.5 or -1/+1 or PK/PK

    If you chose the point spread lines it works just like any other sport where there is a point spread.

    If you don't want to get burned by a DRAW I suggest betting on the pick'em spread if there is one.

    Some books also offer a NTL option this is a "not to lose" wager. This also protects against a DRAW costing you money.
    You can also create your own NTL wager by putting part of your money on a team's ML and part on the DRAW of the same game.

     
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    Posted: Jun. 12, 2014 - 2:18 PM ET #20

    BK: there are no ties in hockey in the regular season or playoffs? In the regular season a hockey teams record represents 

    (Wins) - (Losses) - (Overtime losses)
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    BK: there are no ties in hockey in the regular season or playoffs? In the regular season a hockey teams record represents 

    (Wins) - (Losses) - (Overtime losses)
     
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    NO DRAWS IN HOCKEY SINCE THEY WENT TO SHOOTOUTS AFTER THE 5 MINUTE OVERTIME

    "Bet the farm!" "GO WHERE THE MONEY IS!"
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    NO DRAWS IN HOCKEY SINCE THEY WENT TO SHOOTOUTS AFTER THE 5 MINUTE OVERTIME

     
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    Posted: Jun. 12, 2014 - 2:36 PM ET #22

    Quote Originally Posted by tbeckham:

    BK: there are no ties in hockey in the regular season or playoffs? In the regular season a hockey teams record represents 

    (Wins) - (Losses) - (Overtime losses)

    Yes, I KNOW THAT...lol, but you CAN bet on a regulation line that has DRAW as an option.  I know for a fact you can, but not sure if all books offer it.


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    Quote Originally Posted by tbeckham:

    BK: there are no ties in hockey in the regular season or playoffs? In the regular season a hockey teams record represents 

    (Wins) - (Losses) - (Overtime losses)

    Yes, I KNOW THAT...lol, but you CAN bet on a regulation line that has DRAW as an option.  I know for a fact you can, but not sure if all books offer it.


     
     
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    Posted: Jun. 12, 2014 - 4:11 PM ET #23

    I think the lesson to be learned here is that if you can't even figure out what you're betting on, you're probably better off not placing the bet at all. 
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    I think the lesson to be learned here is that if you can't even figure out what you're betting on, you're probably better off not placing the bet at all. 
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