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    Feedback Please - High Stakes Team - Need a HUGE year

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    Posted: Sep. 1, 2014 - 11:06 PM ET #1

    8-Team Keeper League.  My keepers were Randal Cobb, Julio Jones, and Jimmy Graham (3 each).  I had 2nd pick overall.  And took Montee Ball.  Most of the "top" tier players were keepers.  This is what my team looks like:

    QB - Stafford
    WR - Julio Jones
    WR - Cobb
    WR - Andre Johnson
    RB - Montee Ball
    RB - Le'Veon Bell
    TE - Jimmy Graham
    W/R - MJD
    K - still to be claimed of waivers (need to drop one of my bench guys)
    DEF - NE

    BN - Kendall Wright 
    BN - Ray Rice
    BN - Riley Cooper
    BN - Sammy Watkins
    BN - Knowshon Moreno
    BN - Kenny Britt
    BN - Kyle Rudolph
    BN - Tony Romo
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    8-Team Keeper League.  My keepers were Randal Cobb, Julio Jones, and Jimmy Graham (3 each).  I had 2nd pick overall.  And took Montee Ball.  Most of the "top" tier players were keepers.  This is what my team looks like:

    QB - Stafford
    WR - Julio Jones
    WR - Cobb
    WR - Andre Johnson
    RB - Montee Ball
    RB - Le'Veon Bell
    TE - Jimmy Graham
    W/R - MJD
    K - still to be claimed of waivers (need to drop one of my bench guys)
    DEF - NE

    BN - Kendall Wright 
    BN - Ray Rice
    BN - Riley Cooper
    BN - Sammy Watkins
    BN - Knowshon Moreno
    BN - Kenny Britt
    BN - Kyle Rudolph
    BN - Tony Romo
     
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    Posted: Sep. 2, 2014 - 11:28 AM ET #2

    Honestly for an 8 team league its a little weak
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    Honestly for an 8 team league its a little weak
     
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    Posted: Sep. 2, 2014 - 11:51 AM ET #3

    I'm a little nervous about your depth.  Your bench is pretty shallow for an 8-team league.  You should be seeing some mid-tier guys on there.  Your biggest hinderance (as I'm sure you're aware) is running back.  

    Looking at your team, Montee Ball, Graham, Julio and Stafford are all elite talent this year (or project to be).  After that though, there's a pretty significant drop with your potential breakouts being Le'Veon and Cobb.  

    Andre and MJD are probably well below who I would start in an 8-teamer (well certainly MJD, might start Andre in a flex as he's still the #1 receiver in Houston).
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    I'm a little nervous about your depth.  Your bench is pretty shallow for an 8-team league.  You should be seeing some mid-tier guys on there.  Your biggest hinderance (as I'm sure you're aware) is running back.  

    Looking at your team, Montee Ball, Graham, Julio and Stafford are all elite talent this year (or project to be).  After that though, there's a pretty significant drop with your potential breakouts being Le'Veon and Cobb.  

    Andre and MJD are probably well below who I would start in an 8-teamer (well certainly MJD, might start Andre in a flex as he's still the #1 receiver in Houston).
     
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    Posted: Sep. 2, 2014 - 6:49 PM ET #4

    Thanks guys for the feedback ... I agree with your analysis.

    A key point here that I forgot to mention is that I traded away my 3rd round pick last year to pick up Julio ... so that costed me from a depth perspective. 

    My first 2 picks were Bell & Ball ... need them to be solid.  Agreed the bench is a bit a of crap shoot ... but most benches are .... even in an 8-team league ... the pickings get slim after say round 3 when 24 guys are kept (all of the top tier guys) and 24 guys are already drafted. 

    As an FYI, the first round shook out as follows:

    1) AJ Green

    2) Ball (My pick)

    3) Cordorelle Patterrson

    4) Ellington

    5) Jordy Nelson

    6) Keenan Allen

    7) Arian Foster

    8) Victor Cruz

    2nd Round:

    1) Vincent Jackson

    2) Le'Veon Bell (my pick)

    3) Toby Gerhart ... as you see the pickings were slim early IMO...

    .... note I didn't pick again until the 4th round where I took Matthew Stafford (I wanted a high end QB with Rodgers, Manning, and Brees as keepers ... Luck was the only QB drafted before Stafford) ... and then in the 5th round I took Andre Johnson ... 6th round MJD ... I still there is a potential for both of these guys to have above average fantasy seasons.

    Nonetheless ... we shall see.... definitely need to be active on the waiver wire and catch some fire there... this is usually how the pool is won or lost most years it seems .... Cheers

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    Thanks guys for the feedback ... I agree with your analysis.

    A key point here that I forgot to mention is that I traded away my 3rd round pick last year to pick up Julio ... so that costed me from a depth perspective. 

    My first 2 picks were Bell & Ball ... need them to be solid.  Agreed the bench is a bit a of crap shoot ... but most benches are .... even in an 8-team league ... the pickings get slim after say round 3 when 24 guys are kept (all of the top tier guys) and 24 guys are already drafted. 

    As an FYI, the first round shook out as follows:

    1) AJ Green

    2) Ball (My pick)

    3) Cordorelle Patterrson

    4) Ellington

    5) Jordy Nelson

    6) Keenan Allen

    7) Arian Foster

    8) Victor Cruz

    2nd Round:

    1) Vincent Jackson

    2) Le'Veon Bell (my pick)

    3) Toby Gerhart ... as you see the pickings were slim early IMO...

    .... note I didn't pick again until the 4th round where I took Matthew Stafford (I wanted a high end QB with Rodgers, Manning, and Brees as keepers ... Luck was the only QB drafted before Stafford) ... and then in the 5th round I took Andre Johnson ... 6th round MJD ... I still there is a potential for both of these guys to have above average fantasy seasons.

    Nonetheless ... we shall see.... definitely need to be active on the waiver wire and catch some fire there... this is usually how the pool is won or lost most years it seems .... Cheers

     
     
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    Posted: Sep. 2, 2014 - 7:37 PM ET #5

    My advice is to actually DROP guys like Sammy Watkins (he won't be good with Manuel at the helm, sorry), Riley Cooper and Kendall Wright (and maybe trade Kyle Rudolph is someone needs a TE), and pick up some high upside potential guys from the WW before they explode.

    Examples of guys who have extreme potential and are worth more (in opportunity cost) than the guys I mentioned:  

    Travis Kelce (TE, KC Chiefs) -- The guy, and I've been saying this a lot, is like Gronkowski.  For real.  He has Anthony Fasano to pass, but in a keeper league, this guy will be legit.  He will be the Red Zone guy in KC

    Terrance West (RB, CLE Browns) -- Coach Pettine is a bit down on him at the moment, but he's the clear handcuff to an injury-prone Ben Tate in an offence that doesn't have a lot of weapons in the receiver position.  Ben Tate will get injured, and T. West has the potential to blow up.  

    Carlos Hyde (RB, SF 49ers) -- Frank Gore hasn't missed a SINGLE game in the past 3 seasons.  He's been hit, and hit, and hit again.  This guy is getting old and he is looking to reach the point where he hands over the primary workload to a young stud.  This is another offence that looks to be struggling in the passing game, so you can expect Frank Gore to take some serious abuse.  Gore is 31, Hyde already had playing time with 1st team offence, and he averaged 5.87 YPC!

    Lance Dunbar (RB, DAL Cowboys) -- DeMarco Murray is a workhorse, or bell cow if you will.  He's also another guy who is absolutely injury prone.  If he goes down, Lance Dunbar can step up and be a 3-down back if he can improve his blocking.  Steal of a deal for a guy no one is talking about.

    Justin Hunter (WR, TEN Titans) -- 8 catches, 164 YDS, 2 TDs in the pre-season.  The kid is listed as the 3rd WR on the Tennessee depth chart, but with how well he did at camp then in pre-season, he will be the number one receiver in Tennessee this year, well well well above Kendall Wright.  You'd never start Kendall Wright unless you had to, so this is just a clear swap in my opinion.  Pick to win with you bench players, not to be safe.

    Markus Wheaton (WR, PIT Steelers) -- Talk about your boom or bust flier right here.  Replacing Emmanuel Sanders in the 'X' slot in Pittsburgh's scheme.  He had absolutely NO rhythm with Big Ben in the pre-season and it was pretty clear in his route running and dropped passes, but you can see the potential on top of Ben's desire to feed him the rock.  Watch him roast the stud DB Stephon Gilmore and you will see what I am talking about.  They want to give Wheaton the ball, and if him and Ben can figure it out, things will go very well.

    That's my 4 cents (already gave ya 2).  Best of luck! 
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    My advice is to actually DROP guys like Sammy Watkins (he won't be good with Manuel at the helm, sorry), Riley Cooper and Kendall Wright (and maybe trade Kyle Rudolph is someone needs a TE), and pick up some high upside potential guys from the WW before they explode.

    Examples of guys who have extreme potential and are worth more (in opportunity cost) than the guys I mentioned:  

    Travis Kelce (TE, KC Chiefs) -- The guy, and I've been saying this a lot, is like Gronkowski.  For real.  He has Anthony Fasano to pass, but in a keeper league, this guy will be legit.  He will be the Red Zone guy in KC

    Terrance West (RB, CLE Browns) -- Coach Pettine is a bit down on him at the moment, but he's the clear handcuff to an injury-prone Ben Tate in an offence that doesn't have a lot of weapons in the receiver position.  Ben Tate will get injured, and T. West has the potential to blow up.  

    Carlos Hyde (RB, SF 49ers) -- Frank Gore hasn't missed a SINGLE game in the past 3 seasons.  He's been hit, and hit, and hit again.  This guy is getting old and he is looking to reach the point where he hands over the primary workload to a young stud.  This is another offence that looks to be struggling in the passing game, so you can expect Frank Gore to take some serious abuse.  Gore is 31, Hyde already had playing time with 1st team offence, and he averaged 5.87 YPC!

    Lance Dunbar (RB, DAL Cowboys) -- DeMarco Murray is a workhorse, or bell cow if you will.  He's also another guy who is absolutely injury prone.  If he goes down, Lance Dunbar can step up and be a 3-down back if he can improve his blocking.  Steal of a deal for a guy no one is talking about.

    Justin Hunter (WR, TEN Titans) -- 8 catches, 164 YDS, 2 TDs in the pre-season.  The kid is listed as the 3rd WR on the Tennessee depth chart, but with how well he did at camp then in pre-season, he will be the number one receiver in Tennessee this year, well well well above Kendall Wright.  You'd never start Kendall Wright unless you had to, so this is just a clear swap in my opinion.  Pick to win with you bench players, not to be safe.

    Markus Wheaton (WR, PIT Steelers) -- Talk about your boom or bust flier right here.  Replacing Emmanuel Sanders in the 'X' slot in Pittsburgh's scheme.  He had absolutely NO rhythm with Big Ben in the pre-season and it was pretty clear in his route running and dropped passes, but you can see the potential on top of Ben's desire to feed him the rock.  Watch him roast the stud DB Stephon Gilmore and you will see what I am talking about.  They want to give Wheaton the ball, and if him and Ben can figure it out, things will go very well.

    That's my 4 cents (already gave ya 2).  Best of luck! 
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