Maybe the small spread is reflective of the national sentiment that the Big East is a big heaping pile of steaming fecal matter....LOL......really...i think they're the BCS eligable confrence with the littlest amount of respect and confidence in the betting public.....and rightfully so......but in this case I think that's all workin in the bettin' mans favor if you're on WVU in this one and ya can get them @ aroun -3 or -4.......seems like a good value
You know... this could be possible too.
Last weekend I was against the conses about the Big 10 cuz of the negative attn they were gettin. my big loss was of course osu.
but, the big east are a bunch of losers now. check out the wed nite game featuring lville dog at home! sfla screwed a bunch of us last week too.
Maybe the small spread is reflective of the national sentiment that the Big East is a big heaping pile of steaming fecal matter....LOL......really...i think they're the BCS eligable confrence with the littlest amount of respect and confidence in the betting public.....and rightfully so......but in this case I think that's all workin in the bettin' mans favor if you're on WVU in this one and ya can get them @ aroun -3 or -4.......seems like a good value
You know... this could be possible too.
Last weekend I was against the conses about the Big 10 cuz of the negative attn they were gettin. my big loss was of course osu.
but, the big east are a bunch of losers now. check out the wed nite game featuring lville dog at home! sfla screwed a bunch of us last week too.
WVU is supposedly going back to their zone blocking scheme instead of the pass blocking sheme they have been using in the first 2 games. More ground and option play is their aim so that White can get back to the old spread style they used in the previous years. White is not a pocket passer, which is what they have been trying to make him. More importantly this will allow the o-line to get back to their comfort zone instead of waiting to get hit pass blocking. WVU should be able to put some points on the board.
As for COL- think the poor performance last week can be thrown out since they were probably looking ahead to the WVU game and a couple days off. Not to mention they will get back 2 of their starting o-lineman who were replaced last game by a freshman & redshirt freshman- they played horrible. Think they should be able to move the ball too.
WVU is supposedly going back to their zone blocking scheme instead of the pass blocking sheme they have been using in the first 2 games. More ground and option play is their aim so that White can get back to the old spread style they used in the previous years. White is not a pocket passer, which is what they have been trying to make him. More importantly this will allow the o-line to get back to their comfort zone instead of waiting to get hit pass blocking. WVU should be able to put some points on the board.
As for COL- think the poor performance last week can be thrown out since they were probably looking ahead to the WVU game and a couple days off. Not to mention they will get back 2 of their starting o-lineman who were replaced last game by a freshman & redshirt freshman- they played horrible. Think they should be able to move the ball too.
It's the return of the Thursday night home team dog. As a Husker fan, it pains me to pick Colorado, but they can be salty at home. Don't forget they beat Oklahoma at home last year, and don't under estimate the altitude factor.
It's the return of the Thursday night home team dog. As a Husker fan, it pains me to pick Colorado, but they can be salty at home. Don't forget they beat Oklahoma at home last year, and don't under estimate the altitude factor.
Let me be the first one to say it on this forum, I think Colorado will win their division of the Big 12... They will win this game outright and they will do so as a result of the running game...
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The rest of your post I can more or less agree with (or at least rationalize)... but this first part is just ridiculous. Not only are you the first but you are the only person on the face of this planet... except for a few other diehard Colorado fans that thinks Colorado has any shot in hell at winning the North. I would say they have a better chance of going 2-10 then finishing above Missouri AND Kansas AND Nebraska or Kansas St.
@ Kansas (#19), @ Mizzou (#5), @ Nebraska, @ FSU (#24), home against Texas (#7), home against Oklahoma St. You think they'll win at least 5 of those 6 games SU? Good luck.
Let me be the first one to say it on this forum, I think Colorado will win their division of the Big 12... They will win this game outright and they will do so as a result of the running game...
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The rest of your post I can more or less agree with (or at least rationalize)... but this first part is just ridiculous. Not only are you the first but you are the only person on the face of this planet... except for a few other diehard Colorado fans that thinks Colorado has any shot in hell at winning the North. I would say they have a better chance of going 2-10 then finishing above Missouri AND Kansas AND Nebraska or Kansas St.
@ Kansas (#19), @ Mizzou (#5), @ Nebraska, @ FSU (#24), home against Texas (#7), home against Oklahoma St. You think they'll win at least 5 of those 6 games SU? Good luck.
second time i've seen people talk about how they like WV because they are coming off of their bye week...
i think they might have cut some corners while handicapping this one...
What would you be referring to? WVU isn't historically bad ATS after a bye week. Every once in a while they don't cover but it's certainly not a trend. Unless I'm looking at different data than you are.
second time i've seen people talk about how they like WV because they are coming off of their bye week...
i think they might have cut some corners while handicapping this one...
What would you be referring to? WVU isn't historically bad ATS after a bye week. Every once in a while they don't cover but it's certainly not a trend. Unless I'm looking at different data than you are.
Don't look too much into this one. West Virginia lost to a very talented and motivated East Carolina team that finally got the respect it deserved in the polls. Colorado hung on to beat a pretty good 1-AA team in E. Washington. Travel won't be a factor here, the only thing that will is talent. West Virginia has a lot more talent than the Buffs right now. They just played one sloppy game, you might as well take advantage of it now while the lines are adjusted accordingly. Since it's not much of a difference in the price, I'll even play it safer that way I can just sit back and enjoy the game.
Don't look too much into this one. West Virginia lost to a very talented and motivated East Carolina team that finally got the respect it deserved in the polls. Colorado hung on to beat a pretty good 1-AA team in E. Washington. Travel won't be a factor here, the only thing that will is talent. West Virginia has a lot more talent than the Buffs right now. They just played one sloppy game, you might as well take advantage of it now while the lines are adjusted accordingly. Since it's not much of a difference in the price, I'll even play it safer that way I can just sit back and enjoy the game.
What would you be referring to? WVU isn't historically bad ATS after a bye week. Every once in a while they don't cover but it's certainly not a trend. Unless I'm looking at different data than you are.
DWest... what i'm referring to is people pointing out the fact that WV is coming off of a bye week... but they ignore the fact that Colorado is also coming off of a bye week...
What would you be referring to? WVU isn't historically bad ATS after a bye week. Every once in a while they don't cover but it's certainly not a trend. Unless I'm looking at different data than you are.
DWest... what i'm referring to is people pointing out the fact that WV is coming off of a bye week... but they ignore the fact that Colorado is also coming off of a bye week...
Look for WVU to wake up somewhere around the middle of the 2nd qtr in this one. WVU started the season by getting alot of credit for beating the dead men walking of Oklahoma last year. THis is that same WVU squad but they aren't going to get that their head until they are losing to Colorado after the first quarter. Take WVU in the second half if you have that kind of patience.
Look for WVU to wake up somewhere around the middle of the 2nd qtr in this one. WVU started the season by getting alot of credit for beating the dead men walking of Oklahoma last year. THis is that same WVU squad but they aren't going to get that their head until they are losing to Colorado after the first quarter. Take WVU in the second half if you have that kind of patience.
i have a theory on the line move, but i'm not gonna get into it...
Hey Shep, I would love to hear your theory on line movement- feel that it gives you some good insight on games. From game to game alot of variables are different but one thing is mainly the same- the guys who make the odds and the way they do it. If you can have a little insight on the way the lines lay and move it may give you an advantage when playing.
Start up another thread to not clutter this one if you can. Much appreciated- GL
i have a theory on the line move, but i'm not gonna get into it...
Hey Shep, I would love to hear your theory on line movement- feel that it gives you some good insight on games. From game to game alot of variables are different but one thing is mainly the same- the guys who make the odds and the way they do it. If you can have a little insight on the way the lines lay and move it may give you an advantage when playing.
Start up another thread to not clutter this one if you can. Much appreciated- GL
Let me be the first one to say it on this forum, I think Colorado will win their division of the Big 12... They will win this game outright and they will do so as a result of the running game...
Let me be the first one to say it on this forum, I think Colorado will win their division of the Big 12... They will win this game outright and they will do so as a result of the running game...
ECU then struggled against Tulane. This is a game of match ups. West Virginia does not have the Defense to shut down Colorado. West Virginia scores on explosive plays and with the loss of their full back the option is less potent, however I feel that they can still score about 30-35. Overtime is a strong possibility here, so the over is the play.
ECU then struggled against Tulane. This is a game of match ups. West Virginia does not have the Defense to shut down Colorado. West Virginia scores on explosive plays and with the loss of their full back the option is less potent, however I feel that they can still score about 30-35. Overtime is a strong possibility here, so the over is the play.
Last year, Owen Schmitt had to be accounted for and would still gain 5 to 7 yards with 9 in the box. He opened up the run game for Sloan and White. The offense started with Schmitt and lead to explosive plays for White and Sloan. Now it's just Pat White and West Virginia does not have a solid defense. I was at the WV MD game last year and if Steffy could throw the ball he had Hayward Bey open on just about every play. WV plays zone defense and Hawk will carve them up with the RB and TE finding the soft spots. I think Pat White has the Athleticism to keep plays alive with his feet and find breakdowns up the field. Back and Forth scoring, Turnovers and Special teams decide this game. Over is the play. Have not checked the weather either, unless it is pouring rain I will go the 3 units OVER 56, and tease Col and over 1 unit.
Last year, Owen Schmitt had to be accounted for and would still gain 5 to 7 yards with 9 in the box. He opened up the run game for Sloan and White. The offense started with Schmitt and lead to explosive plays for White and Sloan. Now it's just Pat White and West Virginia does not have a solid defense. I was at the WV MD game last year and if Steffy could throw the ball he had Hayward Bey open on just about every play. WV plays zone defense and Hawk will carve them up with the RB and TE finding the soft spots. I think Pat White has the Athleticism to keep plays alive with his feet and find breakdowns up the field. Back and Forth scoring, Turnovers and Special teams decide this game. Over is the play. Have not checked the weather either, unless it is pouring rain I will go the 3 units OVER 56, and tease Col and over 1 unit.
Let me be the first one to say it on this forum, I think Colorado will win their division of the Big 12... They will win this game outright and they will do so as a result of the running game...
I expect West Virginia to struggle with the thin mountain air, and CU will pound the ball against WVU forcing their linebackers and defensive lineman to gasp for air and create a more frequent rotation than desired...
I also think the kicking game favors Colorado, and while Pat White is supremely talented, he will be throwing in thinner air, where his ball will sail a bit and he too will struggle...
I like the CU and the Under... Playing that as a teaser and CU money line...
Interesting thought and I admire your optimism but please feel free to enlighten me as to why you think they win the North.
Let me be the first one to say it on this forum, I think Colorado will win their division of the Big 12... They will win this game outright and they will do so as a result of the running game...
I expect West Virginia to struggle with the thin mountain air, and CU will pound the ball against WVU forcing their linebackers and defensive lineman to gasp for air and create a more frequent rotation than desired...
I also think the kicking game favors Colorado, and while Pat White is supremely talented, he will be throwing in thinner air, where his ball will sail a bit and he too will struggle...
I like the CU and the Under... Playing that as a teaser and CU money line...
Interesting thought and I admire your optimism but please feel free to enlighten me as to why you think they win the North.
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