Fresno state at boise state (11/19/2010)

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Posted: Nov. 19, 2010 - 4:58 AM ET #26

Quote Originally Posted by StevenGA1011:

If LT could go in there and stay within 30 though barely gotta think Fresno can as well. That isn't the best logic I know and believe me have lost plenty in the past using the ol if so and so covered this n' that BS but I still feel ok taking that nice lil bundle of points here with a 6-3 that at least shouldn't back down just because they are on the Smurf Turf. 0-2 last night on the 2 college games had both Overs and never had a shot in Washington the smaller play, then if I could have only hit the Over 56.5 in Vegas I could have won going just 1-1 having more on it and well as we all know the damn thing landed on 55

I tell ya I'm kicking the can so bad right now I don't think I could win a play if Michael Jackson's life depended on it -- Bulldogs + the points!

If you want to use that reasoning, Boise thumped Hawaii who thumped Fresno in Fresno.

BeavNasty619

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Posted: Nov. 19, 2010 - 6:11 AM ET #27

Boise didn't cover against l.a tech. Fresno is a much better team with offense. Fresno + Over. Bet the house!!!!

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Posted: Nov. 19, 2010 - 8:21 AM ET #28

I can't see Boise falling off the cover tracks now?? At home, and so close to playing for a championship. Auburn is gonna lose to Saben's boys in Tuscalusa with that sad D they have. Get ready for it people.......The Ducks and Boise for a championship.........who would have ever thought that 10 years ago!?!?!?!?!?

justmagoo

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Posted: Nov. 19, 2010 - 9:40 AM ET #29

Fresno +30 the weather is going to turn nasty rain may turn to snow temp in mid 30 is to fall at game time i do like the over but with rain and snow not going to play the over.

BOCCO

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Posted: Nov. 19, 2010 - 9:47 AM ET #30

Im leaning towards Fresno + the points , and fresno can put some points on the board to help push the total over the posted total ! Boise is just concerned with the win in this one ! Covering the spread wont make a difference to their BCS standings !!!!!!!!!!

MrScanMan

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Posted: Nov. 19, 2010 - 9:48 AM ET #31

weather forecast shows rain and snow all day long in Boise....

Prior to that knowledge my thinking was high scoring. something like 52-24. Boise D is legit. Fresno will be hard pressed finding 24 points on a sunny day against this Boise D and in the current weather conditions they could be shut down completely with Boise loading the box.

And yes, I saw Fresno play Nevada tough last week. Only thing i take away fro that game is that Fresno can't stop a good offense enough times to win and couldn't score against a mediocre defense enough to win. Boise is very humbly put a very good offense, and their defense is just a little better than mediocre Im thinking.

Bottom line I see Boise winning right around the point spread (28-32 points or so) no matter what the weather is like so I am gonna stay away from the points and wait to see what the weather looks like and what reports of the field condition say.

I like OVER with Boise winning 52-24 but keep an eye on weather

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Posted: Nov. 19, 2010 - 9:50 AM ET #32

Look for Boise to sit some players in the fourth if they have a comfortable 10 to 20 point lead !!!!!!!!!!

ston442

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Posted: Nov. 19, 2010 - 10:11 AM ET #33

what about the first half do you like the over or under of 34.5?

I like the over.

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Posted: Nov. 19, 2010 - 10:16 AM ET #34

Breakdown: Bulldogs

Fresno State’s biggest challenge this week may be shelving the memory of last week’s narrow loss to Nevada.

Head coach Pat Hill admitted is players were better prepared to take on the Wolf Pack than they had been all season, but an even larger task awaits the ‘Dogs in Boise.

Running back Robbie Rouse has impressed the past month, racking up 769 the last four games, including back-to-back 200-yard performances.

Likewise, quarterback Ryan Colburn has looked fairly sharp the last two weeks, completing more than 60 percent of his passes with five touchdowns to just one interception.

Sack masters Chris Carter and Logan Harrell have a big test this week: getting to Kellen Moore. The Boise State quarterback has been sacked just five times this season, fifth-best in the country.

Fresno State has never won on Boise State’s blue turf, but is the last Western Athletic Conference team to beat the Broncos, a 27-7 win in 2005.

Breakdown: Broncos

Boise State has not lost to a Western Athletic Conference team at home since it became an official member in 2001.

The Broncos have dominated on their homefield this season by outscoring their opponents 185-65 through four games.

The fewest points Boise State has scored at home in 2010 is the 37 points that the Broncos put up against Oregon State.

The Broncos are led by top Heisman candidate Kellen Moore, who has completed an impressive 71.9 percent of his passes for 2,588 yards and 24 touchdowns.

Moore has gone 35-1 as the starting quarterback for the Broncos since taking over as the signal caller as a redshirt freshman in 2008.

But Moore isn’t the only standout player for the Broncos.

The defense is considered by many as the best unit in the nation, giving up just 240 yards an outing while allowing a WAC-best 12.8 points per game.

As much publicity as Moore generates, its the Broncos defense that solidifies Boise State as elite.

Keys to Victory

1. Mistake-free football

One major mistake could easily be one too many against the well-coached Broncos. Turnovers and penalties in a hostile environment would doom the ‘Dogs quickly.

2. Rattle Kellen Moore

The Heisman Trophy candidate has only been sacked five times all season. Chris Carter and Logan Harrell will be X-factors in getting heat on Moore early and often.

3. Avoid a Nevada hangover

If Fresno State has a chance at the upset, last week needs to be a distant memory. The ‘Dogs played very well for most of the Nevada game, and will need a similar performance.

Position match-ups

Player to watch: Kyle Knox, linebacker

When Fresno State runs: Advantage – Boise State
Despite Robbie Rouse stringing together three straight impressive performances, the Broncos give up just 75 rushing yards per game, second best in the NCAA.

When Boise State runs: Advantage – Boise State
Led by running backs Doug Martin and Jeremy Avery, Boise State averages 214 rush yards per game, which ranks second in the WAC only behind Nevada.

When Fresno State passes: Advantage – Boise State
Although the Broncos’ secondary came into the season as their lone question mark, the Broncos have given up just 166 yards per game through the air.

When Boise State passes: Advantage – Boise State
The Broncos have a probable Heisman Trophy finalist under center, and a duo of dynamic receivers for him to chose from in Austin Pettis and Titus Young.

Special teams: Advantage – Even
Fresno State and Boise State are neck-and-neck in punt and kick return average, and both teams have a solid kicking corps.

Battle for the Milk Can: Boise State breakdown

Player to watch: Kellen Moore, Quarterback

Wins against: Virginia Tech, Wyoming, Oregon State, New Mexico State, Toledo, San Jose State, Louisiana Tech, Hawaii, Idaho

Losses to: none

Head coach: Chris Petersen ( fifth season, 58-4)

Offense: Pro Style

Defense: Multiple

Key players: QB Kellen Moore, RB Doug Martin, WR Austin Pettis

Series record: Boise State leads 8-4

Last meeting: Boise State won 51-34

Point Spread: Broncos favored by 30.5 points

Breakdown: Bulldogs

Fresno State’s biggest challenge this week may be shelving the memory of last week’s narrow loss to Nevada.

Head coach Pat Hill admitted is players were better prepared to take on the Wolf Pack than they had been all season, but an even larger task awaits the ‘Dogs in Boise.

Running back Robbie Rouse has impressed the past month, racking up 769 the last four games, including back-to-back 200-yard performances.

Likewise, quarterback Ryan Colburn has looked fairly sharp the last two weeks, completing more than 60 percent of his passes with five touchdowns to just one interception.

Sack masters Chris Carter and Logan Harrell have a big test this week: getting to Kellen Moore. The Boise State quarterback has been sacked just five times this season, fifth-best in the country.

Fresno State has never won on Boise State’s blue turf, but is the last Western Athletic Conference team to beat the Broncos, a 27-7 win in 2005.

Breakdown: Broncos

Boise State has not lost to a Western Athletic Conference team at home since it became an official member in 2001.

The Broncos have dominated on their homefield this season by outscoring their opponents 185-65 through four games.

The fewest points Boise State has scored at home in 2010 is the 37 points that the Broncos put up against Oregon State.

The Broncos are led by top Heisman candidate Kellen Moore, who has completed an impressive 71.9 percent of his passes for 2,588 yards and 24 touchdowns.

Moore has gone 35-1 as the starting quarterback for the Broncos since taking over as the signal caller as a redshirt freshman in 2008.

But Moore isn’t the only standout player for the Broncos.

The defense is considered by many as the best unit in the nation, giving up just 240 yards an outing while allowing a WAC-best 12.8 points per game.

As much publicity as Moore generates, its the Broncos defense that solidifies Boise State as elite.

Keys to Victory

1. Mistake-free football

One major mistake could easily be one too many against the well-coached Broncos. Turnovers and penalties in a hostile environment would doom the ‘Dogs quickly.

2. Rattle Kellen Moore

The Heisman Trophy candidate has only been sacked five times all season. Chris Carter and Logan Harrell will be X-factors in getting heat on Moore early and often.

3. Avoid a Nevada hangover

If Fresno State has a chance at the upset, last week needs to be a distant memory. The ‘Dogs played very well for most of the Nevada game, and will need a similar performance.

Position match-ups

Player to watch: Kyle Knox, linebacker

When Boise State runs: Advantage – Boise State
Led by running backs Doug Martin and Jeremy Avery, Boise State averages 214 rush yards per game, which ranks second in the WAC only behind Nevada.

Special teams: Advantage – Even
Fresno State and Boise State are neck-and-neck in punt and kick return average, and both teams have a solid kicking corps.

Battle for the Milk Can: Boise State breakdown

Player to watch: Kellen Moore, Quarterback

Wins against: Virginia Tech, Wyoming, Oregon State, New Mexico State, Toledo, San Jose State, Louisiana Tech, Hawaii, Idaho

Losses to: none

Head coach: Chris Petersen ( fifth season, 58-4)

Offense: Pro Style

Defense: Multiple

Key players: QB Kellen Moore, RB Doug Martin, WR Austin Pettis

Series record: Boise State leads 8-4

Last meeting: Boise State won 51-34

Point Spread: Broncos favored by 30.5 points

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Posted: Nov. 19, 2010 - 10:35 AM ET #35

Dogs Lose Heartbreaker To Neveda, 35-34Nov. 13, 2010

FRESNO, Calif. (AP) - In one of the most entertaining games in recent memory at Bulldog Stadium, No. 21 Nevada earned a come from behind 35-34 win over Fresno State on Saturday night.

Fresno State's defense played well for the majority of the game, holding the nation's No.2 offensive unit to 140 yards under its season average and nine points under its scoring average, but the Dogs came up 1 point short on the scoreboard.

Fresno State jumped to an early 14-7 lead in the first quarter on a pair of Robbie Rouse touchdowns. Rouse, who finished with three scores on the night rushed for 217 yards, the 12th-best game in school history. It was the second straight game of more than 200 rushing yards, becoming the first Bulldog to ever accomplish that feat. Rouse scored on runs of 2 and 44 yards and had a 12-yard touchdown reception from quarterback Ryan Colburn.

Nevada scored a late second quarter touchdown to take a 21-17 lead at halftime. Frsno State opened the scoring in the second half on an Isaiah Burse touchdown catch from Colbrun and extended the lead to 34-28 on a Kevin Goessling 34-yard field goal early in the fourth quarter.

Vai Taua's 24-yard scamper up the middle with 4:51 remaining gave the Wolf Pack (9-1, 4-1 WAC) its first lead since midway through the third quarter.

Robbie Rouse rushed for 217 yards and scored three touchdowns for Fresno State (6-3, 4-2) in a game with six lead changes.

The Bulldogs drove to midfield before turning the ball over on downs with 1:26 left.

Fresno State scored 10 straight points to go ahead 34-28. The touchdown came on a spectacular 44-yard touchdown run by Rouse.

The Bulldogs got excellent field position on their opening drive of the second half when Nevada punter Brad Langley booted the ball off the back of a teammate's helmet.

Fresno State took over at midfield and found the end zone four plays later when the left-handed Colburn scrambled to his right and found Isaiah Burse down the middle for a 26-yard touchdown.

Kaepernick answered with a 19-yard touchdown run, faking the handoff before taking off up the middle, as the Wolf Pack regained a 28-24 lead with 9:28 left in the third quarter.

Trailing 34-28 following Fresno State's 10-point surge, Nevada marched downfield for the potential go-ahead touchdown. But on 4th-and-1 from the Bulldogs 8, Kyle Knox and Desia Dunn smothered Taua for no gain.

Fresno State failed to move the ball, and the Wolf Pack took over on its 46 to set up Taua's go-ahead score.

Rouse was coming off a career-high 286-yard effort in Fresno State's 40-34 victory over Louisiana Tech.

Nevada scored two touchdowns in a 27-second span late in the second quarter to take a 21-17 halftime lead.

The Wolf Pack trailed by 10 before two TDs by Taua swung the momentum. One was set up by Colburn fumbling.

Kaepernick shook off a sluggish start by leading Nevada on a 10-play, 73-yard drive, capped by a 4-yard Taua touchdown run with 1:01 left before halftime. The senior converted two third downs on pass completions during the march to trim Fresno State's lead to 17-14.

On the ensuing possession, Colburn dropped back and the ball slipped from his hand without being touched. Ryan Coulson made the recovery for Nevada on the Bulldogs 20.

Following a 19-yard pass to Brandon Wimberly, the Wolf Pack was in the end zone again when Taua plunged in from 1 yard with 34 seconds left.

Nevada even got the ball back on a squib kick but could not move the football in the final 27 seconds.

Fresno State led 17-7 with 4:18 remaining in the second quarter on a 42-yard field goal by Kevin Goessling.

Rouse scored the Bulldogs' first two touchdowns on a 12-yard catch and a 2-yard run on Fresno State's opening drive.

Kaepernick passed for 114 yards and ran for 95 in the first half. His only mistake was an interception by safety Lorne Bell for a touchback that went right through the hands receiver Malcolm Shepherd.

After Fresno State scored on its opening drive, Kaepernick pulled the Wolf Pack even by faking the handoff and running around the right end 47 yards for a touchdown.

Quotes and Notes:

Fresno State Head Coach Pat Hill
"We gave a great effort tonight. This was the best team in the history of the Nevada football program and we came up a point short. It wasn't for a lack of effort. It was a great college football game. The crowd and atmosphere were great. We had our chances and when you lose a game like this by one point, you will also look back and say what could have been, or if this would have happened. We don't have a lot of time to think about this game. We need to bury it and get ready for Boise State. We have a short week ahead of us and will be in for a tough challenge against one of the best teams in the country."

"I can't say enough about Robbie Rouse. He's really coming into his own and becoming the back we thought he could be. He played great. Our offensive line did great. We had three new guys in there. We started the season with four seniors and one junior on the offensive line and tonight we started three underclassmen who were not figuring in our two deep this season. They played very well under the circumstances."

"We still have a lot to play for. We have prideful seniors and three very tough games before a bowl game. I know they will battle back and play Bulldog football."