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    Hockeyguy9
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    Posted: Jan. 4, 2012 - 12:39 AM ET #1

    everyone and their mom is betting on clemson yet the line drops from -3.5 to -2.5 vegas will bank tomorrow guaranteed i am all over WV
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    To remove first post, remove entire topic.
    everyone and their mom is betting on clemson yet the line drops from -3.5 to -2.5 vegas will bank tomorrow guaranteed i am all over WV
     
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    Posted: Jan. 4, 2012 - 12:39 AM ET #2

    Dont really care who the public is on.  WVU is a fraud.  Clemson may be a fraud too but WVU is a much bigger fraud.
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    Dont really care who the public is on.  WVU is a fraud.  Clemson may be a fraud too but WVU is a much bigger fraud.
     
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    Posted: Jan. 4, 2012 - 12:40 AM ET #3

    lol ok square have fun losing your money tomorrow
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    lol ok square have fun losing your money tomorrow
     
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    Posted: Jan. 4, 2012 - 12:41 AM ET #4

    Not a square.  Dont buy into Public %'s.  WVU sucks.  
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    Not a square.  Dont buy into Public %'s.  WVU sucks.  
     
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    Posted: Jan. 4, 2012 - 12:42 AM ET #5

    Have you ever seen WVU play?  Good luck with your bet, and good luck watching WVU with money riding on them.  I bet on them twice this year.  They are the most undisciplined, unorganized, completely disfunctional team I have seen play this year.

    Clemson by 10+
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    Have you ever seen WVU play?  Good luck with your bet, and good luck watching WVU with money riding on them.  I bet on them twice this year.  They are the most undisciplined, unorganized, completely disfunctional team I have seen play this year.

    Clemson by 10+
     
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    Posted: Jan. 4, 2012 - 12:43 AM ET #6

    WVU being in a BCS bowl game is a joke.  
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    Posted: Jan. 4, 2012 - 12:47 AM ET #7

    According to pregame.com 81% of bettors are on Clemson.
    I hate seeing RLM. I don't like betting sides when it happens.  

    82% are on the over but that total has gone from 60 to 62 and looks like it will continue to rise.


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    According to pregame.com 81% of bettors are on Clemson.
    I hate seeing RLM. I don't like betting sides when it happens.  

    82% are on the over but that total has gone from 60 to 62 and looks like it will continue to rise.


     
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    Posted: Jan. 4, 2012 - 12:49 AM ET #8

    I think we have close to 40 points scored in the first half.  But hey its just my opinion.  You dont have to agree but i see Clemson winning this one 40ish to high 20's for WVU 
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    I think we have close to 40 points scored in the first half.  But hey its just my opinion.  You dont have to agree but i see Clemson winning this one 40ish to high 20's for WVU 
     
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    Posted: Jan. 4, 2012 - 12:49 AM ET #9

    Quote Originally Posted by Hockeyguy9:

    lol ok square have fun losing your money tomorrow

    Some people are just idiots. You do realize that Clemson is the square pick right? You should learn what square means before making fun of someone else.



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    Quote Originally Posted by Hockeyguy9:

    lol ok square have fun losing your money tomorrow

    Some people are just idiots. You do realize that Clemson is the square pick right? You should learn what square means before making fun of someone else.



     
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    Posted: Jan. 4, 2012 - 12:51 AM ET #10

    I'm a Pittsburgh sports writer and covered WVU all year (including covering them tomorrow night).  Watching this team all year I learned a lot of things (mostly bad).

    The most important factor: they are underachievers.  They have talent that most teams outside of the SEC would envy offensively. 

    The problem is, as good as Geno Smith is physically, is how bad the kid is mentally.  He tends to go against Holgorsen and call his own plays.  If you watched the Syracuse game, you watched him audible into two deep throw INTs which killed any momentum.  He audibled on a 4th down sneak against UCONN in the 1st half and completely botched the play, with half the line jumping early on a 1st snap count and the other standing still.  He did it again at the end of the LSU 1st half, when that ball he threw on 3rd down was picked and taken to the 8-yard line.

    Every time he takes matters into his own hands he blows something apart...momentum that is.  Now he doesn't have Dustin Garrison in the backfield as he is out for this game.  There will NOT be much stock put in the ground game for them, which tells me that he will feel more weight on his shoulders to get something down.

    He will pass for 300+ yards tomorrow.  He will run for about 30 more yards.  But how many INTs do we add to the statline?  How many fumbles, forced plays and silly audibles go in to the mix?

    WVU is a coinflip team.  What they did in the UCONN game is a microcosm of who they are.  They got pushed around, underplayed and failed miserably in the 1st half.  They came back and put up a ridiculous 2nd half leading to a blowout win.  Had they just played consistent throughout LSU game they may have won.  Instead, they relied on a 2nd half rally.  Pitt was so bad that they got lucky a shitty 1st half didn't affect them.

    I will NOT be betting on this game.  There are too many ifs.  A 1st half bet on Clemson may not be a bad idea, but Geno Smith is such a questionable character it is hard to tell what he will do (will be thinking).

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    I'm a Pittsburgh sports writer and covered WVU all year (including covering them tomorrow night).  Watching this team all year I learned a lot of things (mostly bad).

    The most important factor: they are underachievers.  They have talent that most teams outside of the SEC would envy offensively. 

    The problem is, as good as Geno Smith is physically, is how bad the kid is mentally.  He tends to go against Holgorsen and call his own plays.  If you watched the Syracuse game, you watched him audible into two deep throw INTs which killed any momentum.  He audibled on a 4th down sneak against UCONN in the 1st half and completely botched the play, with half the line jumping early on a 1st snap count and the other standing still.  He did it again at the end of the LSU 1st half, when that ball he threw on 3rd down was picked and taken to the 8-yard line.

    Every time he takes matters into his own hands he blows something apart...momentum that is.  Now he doesn't have Dustin Garrison in the backfield as he is out for this game.  There will NOT be much stock put in the ground game for them, which tells me that he will feel more weight on his shoulders to get something down.

    He will pass for 300+ yards tomorrow.  He will run for about 30 more yards.  But how many INTs do we add to the statline?  How many fumbles, forced plays and silly audibles go in to the mix?

    WVU is a coinflip team.  What they did in the UCONN game is a microcosm of who they are.  They got pushed around, underplayed and failed miserably in the 1st half.  They came back and put up a ridiculous 2nd half leading to a blowout win.  Had they just played consistent throughout LSU game they may have won.  Instead, they relied on a 2nd half rally.  Pitt was so bad that they got lucky a shitty 1st half didn't affect them.

    I will NOT be betting on this game.  There are too many ifs.  A 1st half bet on Clemson may not be a bad idea, but Geno Smith is such a questionable character it is hard to tell what he will do (will be thinking).

     
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    Posted: Jan. 4, 2012 - 12:52 AM ET #11

    If what you say is true about all the money going on clemson then why did the line drop a full point today? Did the books just decide to drop the line an entire point so even more $$ went on clemson? Apparently some people are betting on wvu also. Either way ill take the team that destroyed a very good virginia tech team twice over a team whose signiature wins are rutgers, cincinnatti, and pittsburgh. 
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    If what you say is true about all the money going on clemson then why did the line drop a full point today? Did the books just decide to drop the line an entire point so even more $$ went on clemson? Apparently some people are betting on wvu also. Either way ill take the team that destroyed a very good virginia tech team twice over a team whose signiature wins are rutgers, cincinnatti, and pittsburgh. 
     
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    Posted: Jan. 4, 2012 - 1:01 AM ET #12

    Quote Originally Posted by DA_BOYS:


    Some people are just idiots. You do realize that Clemson is the square pick right? You should learn what square means before making fun of someone else.



    The guy is betting Clemson therefor he is a square...learn how to read! 
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    Some people are just idiots. You do realize that Clemson is the square pick right? You should learn what square means before making fun of someone else.



    The guy is betting Clemson therefor he is a square...learn how to read! 
     
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    Quote Originally Posted by degengambler34:

    If what you say is true about all the money going on clemson then why did the line drop a full point today? Did the books just decide to drop the line an entire point so even more $$ went on clemson? Apparently some people are betting on wvu also. Either way ill take the team that destroyed a very good virginia tech team twice over a team whose signiature wins are rutgers, cincinnatti, and pittsburgh. 

    Yes.  Look up Reverse Line Movement.  Only about 20% of people are betting WVU.  I think Clemson is the right pick but when this happens I can't bet it anymore.  It makes no sense for Vegas to drop the spread with 80% of wagers coming in on that team.  They know something.


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    Quote Originally Posted by degengambler34:

    If what you say is true about all the money going on clemson then why did the line drop a full point today? Did the books just decide to drop the line an entire point so even more $$ went on clemson? Apparently some people are betting on wvu also. Either way ill take the team that destroyed a very good virginia tech team twice over a team whose signiature wins are rutgers, cincinnatti, and pittsburgh. 

    Yes.  Look up Reverse Line Movement.  Only about 20% of people are betting WVU.  I think Clemson is the right pick but when this happens I can't bet it anymore.  It makes no sense for Vegas to drop the spread with 80% of wagers coming in on that team.  They know something.


     
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    Posted: Jan. 4, 2012 - 1:05 AM ET #14

    I bet a smalll one unit wager on Clemson -3

    I just pushed with Michigan -3 and moosed by betting OKST by a yard

    Should I push big on Clemson?
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    I bet a smalll one unit wager on Clemson -3

    I just pushed with Michigan -3 and moosed by betting OKST by a yard

    Should I push big on Clemson?
     
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    Quote Originally Posted by kgroch2002:

    The guy is betting Clemson therefor he is a square...learn how to read! 

    Wow am I tired. Didn't realize it was the OP making a comment about the second poster.  Thought it was someone else making a comment on the OP.  My bad. I do look stupid.


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    Quote Originally Posted by kgroch2002:

    The guy is betting Clemson therefor he is a square...learn how to read! 

    Wow am I tired. Didn't realize it was the OP making a comment about the second poster.  Thought it was someone else making a comment on the OP.  My bad. I do look stupid.


     
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    I would stay far away from this game or live it
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    Quote Originally Posted by DA_BOYS:


    Yes.  Look up Reverse Line Movement.  Only about 20% of people are betting WVU.  I think Clemson is the right pick but when this happens I can't bet it anymore.  It makes no sense for Vegas to drop the spread with 80% of wagers coming in on that team.  They know something.



    Ah ok gotcha, yeh i may just lay off, your right it seems super fishy for them to drop the spread when 80 pct of the wagers are coming in on clemson. 
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    Yes.  Look up Reverse Line Movement.  Only about 20% of people are betting WVU.  I think Clemson is the right pick but when this happens I can't bet it anymore.  It makes no sense for Vegas to drop the spread with 80% of wagers coming in on that team.  They know something.



    Ah ok gotcha, yeh i may just lay off, your right it seems super fishy for them to drop the spread when 80 pct of the wagers are coming in on clemson. 
     
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    I am sorry but I am not risking my money on a team who last 3 games before this clemson one, beat their opponents by 3 points or less. 

    It is the Michigan effect.  Sux in reality but still win games.  har har har


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    I am sorry but I am not risking my money on a team who last 3 games before this clemson one, beat their opponents by 3 points or less. 

    It is the Michigan effect.  Sux in reality but still win games.  har har har


     
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    The line has gone back up to 3 at my book. Most people don't even bet until the day of the game, so I am guessing the line will go even higher tomorrow so grab -3 while you still can. Will be at least 3.5 by gam,etime
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    The line has gone back up to 3 at my book. Most people don't even bet until the day of the game, so I am guessing the line will go even higher tomorrow so grab -3 while you still can. Will be at least 3.5 by gam,etime
     
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    Posted: Jan. 4, 2012 - 1:29 AM ET #20

    Quote Originally Posted by nfl_brosuf:

    I am sorry but I am not risking my money on a team who last 3 games before this clemson one, beat their opponents by 3 points or less. 

    It is the Michigan effect.  Sux in reality but still win games.  har har har



    Still no idea how michigan won that game today. If they play each other 100 times i think va tech wins 99, total lucksack  push for most mich backers.  
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    Quote Originally Posted by nfl_brosuf:

    I am sorry but I am not risking my money on a team who last 3 games before this clemson one, beat their opponents by 3 points or less. 

    It is the Michigan effect.  Sux in reality but still win games.  har har har



    Still no idea how michigan won that game today. If they play each other 100 times i think va tech wins 99, total lucksack  push for most mich backers.  
     
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    Posted: Jan. 4, 2012 - 1:40 AM ET #21

    Quote Originally Posted by solidnuts:

     

    so what?  The public was on Houston and the line dropped from -9 to 6.5. 

     

    Any team that has Virginia in it is a fraud!  Look at VT today!


    Good point, it's not like the sharps are always right, they completely wiffed on that penn state game, penn state did not wanna be in that game. This bowl will at the very least have two motivated teams. 
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    so what?  The public was on Houston and the line dropped from -9 to 6.5. 

     

    Any team that has Virginia in it is a fraud!  Look at VT today!


    Good point, it's not like the sharps are always right, they completely wiffed on that penn state game, penn state did not wanna be in that game. This bowl will at the very least have two motivated teams. 
     
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    Posted: Jan. 4, 2012 - 1:43 AM ET #22

    Over is the play....
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    Over is the play....
     
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    Posted: Jan. 4, 2012 - 1:47 AM ET #23

    West Virginia     38

    Clemson     31

    Both offenses are good but clemson's D is worst, imo.

     

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    West Virginia     38

    Clemson     31

    Both offenses are good but clemson's D is worst, imo.

     

     
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    Quote Originally Posted by haithuy:

    West Virginia     38

    Clemson     31

    Both offenses are good but clemson's D is worst, imo.

     




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    West Virginia     38

    Clemson     31

    Both offenses are good but clemson's D is worst, imo.

     




     
     
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    Posted: Jan. 4, 2012 - 1:58 AM ET #25

    I like WV TT over 30 and them to win the game...Clemson beat VT...they always play them well but gave up 34 to SC, 37 to NCST , 28 to Wake , 31 to GT, 38 to UNC  and 45 to MD  in their previous 7 games!! WV has a better offense than most all these teams! Sign me up for the hill billys from WV!!! 
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    I like WV TT over 30 and them to win the game...Clemson beat VT...they always play them well but gave up 34 to SC, 37 to NCST , 28 to Wake , 31 to GT, 38 to UNC  and 45 to MD  in their previous 7 games!! WV has a better offense than most all these teams! Sign me up for the hill billys from WV!!! 
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