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    Why is Tulsa kicking the extra point?

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    Posted: Dec. 24, 2010 - 11:39 PM ET #1

    Why are they not going for 2 with 7 mins left in the game up by 19?

    Just curious.

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    To remove first post, remove entire topic.

    Why are they not going for 2 with 7 mins left in the game up by 19?

    Just curious.

     
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    Posted: Dec. 24, 2010 - 11:41 PM ET #2

    Beuller?

    Im serious.

    I know it probably wont matter, but why in the hell do coaches do this?

     

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    Beuller?

    Im serious.

    I know it probably wont matter, but why in the hell do coaches do this?

     

     
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    Posted: Dec. 24, 2010 - 11:41 PM ET #3

    Good question
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    Posted: Dec. 24, 2010 - 11:44 PM ET #4

    and the craziest thing is they got the penalty moving the ball to the one yard line......... and they still kick to go up by 20?
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    and the craziest thing is they got the penalty moving the ball to the one yard line......... and they still kick to go up by 20?
     
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    Posted: Dec. 24, 2010 - 11:45 PM ET #5

    makes no sense, man was i off on hawaii today.  what an awful 2nd half for those guys.  Their defense actually played real well for one half.
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    makes no sense, man was i off on hawaii today.  what an awful 2nd half for those guys.  Their defense actually played real well for one half.
     
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    Posted: Dec. 24, 2010 - 11:45 PM ET #6

    Because you make them get 3 TD's to beat you, not two TD's and a FG which can tie.  Needing only a FG to tie is the reason and the correct play, no need for Tulsa to get cute doing something silly.
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    Because you make them get 3 TD's to beat you, not two TD's and a FG which can tie.  Needing only a FG to tie is the reason and the correct play, no need for Tulsa to get cute doing something silly.
     
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    Posted: Dec. 24, 2010 - 11:45 PM ET #7

    Quote Originally Posted by HoldEm00:

    and the craziest thing is they got the penalty moving the ball to the one yard line......... and they still kick to go up by 20?

    My first post was before the penalty.

    I thought for sure they would go for 2 from the 1 yard line.  What could possibly be the reason?  I cant even come up with one.

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    Quote Originally Posted by HoldEm00:

    and the craziest thing is they got the penalty moving the ball to the one yard line......... and they still kick to go up by 20?

    My first post was before the penalty.

    I thought for sure they would go for 2 from the 1 yard line.  What could possibly be the reason?  I cant even come up with one.

     
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    Posted: Dec. 24, 2010 - 11:46 PM ET #8

    Exactly my thoughts...go for 2 and get up 21.  Then, after the penalty, they had a second chance to go for 2 and still didn't.  Makes no sense

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    Exactly my thoughts...go for 2 and get up 21.  Then, after the penalty, they had a second chance to go for 2 and still didn't.  Makes no sense

     
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    Posted: Dec. 24, 2010 - 11:47 PM ET #9

    Quote Originally Posted by gcnmoo:

    makes no sense, man was i off on hawaii today.  what an awful 2nd half for those guys.  Their defense actually played real well for one half.

    Moo - I took Tulsa at HT - couldnt believe that I was getting +7.5 +118.

    This was a game (like S Miss) that I feel great for not betting - I was close to betting Hawaii - but just didnt pull the trigger.

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    Quote Originally Posted by gcnmoo:

    makes no sense, man was i off on hawaii today.  what an awful 2nd half for those guys.  Their defense actually played real well for one half.

    Moo - I took Tulsa at HT - couldnt believe that I was getting +7.5 +118.

    This was a game (like S Miss) that I feel great for not betting - I was close to betting Hawaii - but just didnt pull the trigger.

     
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    Posted: Dec. 24, 2010 - 11:49 PM ET #10

    Quote Originally Posted by gcnmoo:

    makes no sense, man was i off on hawaii today.  what an awful 2nd half for those guys.  Their defense actually played real well for one half.

    Honestly - When I kept hearing "tulsa offense only has 94 yards" I kept getting excited - because nobody was taking in to account that they had very little chances to move the ball because of the INT's - that was reflected in their offensive yardage - and I had a feeling that would effect the HT line....

     

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    Quote Originally Posted by gcnmoo:

    makes no sense, man was i off on hawaii today.  what an awful 2nd half for those guys.  Their defense actually played real well for one half.

    Honestly - When I kept hearing "tulsa offense only has 94 yards" I kept getting excited - because nobody was taking in to account that they had very little chances to move the ball because of the INT's - that was reflected in their offensive yardage - and I had a feeling that would effect the HT line....

     

     
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    Quote Originally Posted by 165yds:

    Because you make them get 3 TD's to beat you, not two TD's and a FG which can tie.  Needing only a FG to tie is the reason and the correct play, no need for Tulsa to get cute doing something silly.

    You cant be serious.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 165yds:

    Because you make them get 3 TD's to beat you, not two TD's and a FG which can tie.  Needing only a FG to tie is the reason and the correct play, no need for Tulsa to get cute doing something silly.

    You cant be serious.

     
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    Posted: Dec. 24, 2010 - 11:51 PM ET #12

    Quote Originally Posted by vanzack:

    You cant be serious.

    He is serious and correct

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    Quote Originally Posted by vanzack:

    You cant be serious.

    He is serious and correct

     
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    Posted: Dec. 24, 2010 - 11:53 PM ET #13

    Quote Originally Posted by TRAIN69:

    He is serious and correct

    OK.  I would expect nothing less from you.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TRAIN69:

    He is serious and correct

    OK.  I would expect nothing less from you.

     
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    Posted: Dec. 24, 2010 - 11:58 PM ET #14

    Quote Originally Posted by vanzack:

    Honestly - When I kept hearing "tulsa offense only has 94 yards" I kept getting excited - because nobody was taking in to account that they had very little chances to move the ball because of the INT's - that was reflected in their offensive yardage - and I had a feeling that would effect the HT line....

     

    They were outgained 6.7 - 2.5 yards per play in the 1st half.  Completely went beserk in the 2H against an underrated hawaii defense unexpectedly.  Maybe Hawaii showed their true colors.  You punch in tcu yet?

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    Quote Originally Posted by vanzack:

    Honestly - When I kept hearing "tulsa offense only has 94 yards" I kept getting excited - because nobody was taking in to account that they had very little chances to move the ball because of the INT's - that was reflected in their offensive yardage - and I had a feeling that would effect the HT line....

     

    They were outgained 6.7 - 2.5 yards per play in the 1st half.  Completely went beserk in the 2H against an underrated hawaii defense unexpectedly.  Maybe Hawaii showed their true colors.  You punch in tcu yet?

     
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    Posted: Dec. 24, 2010 - 11:59 PM ET #15

    Quote Originally Posted by vanzack:

    OK.  I would expect nothing less from you.

    Nor would I from you. You asked a question and got the only logical answer and laughed at it. Pretty much your MO.....you think you know more than everybody.

    Being correct is kinda my curse.

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    Quote Originally Posted by vanzack:

    OK.  I would expect nothing less from you.

    Nor would I from you. You asked a question and got the only logical answer and laughed at it. Pretty much your MO.....you think you know more than everybody.

    Being correct is kinda my curse.

     
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    Quote Originally Posted by gcnmoo:

    They were outgained 6.7 - 2.5 yards per play in the 1st half.  Completely went beserk in the 2H against an underrated hawaii defense unexpectedly.  Maybe Hawaii showed their true colors.  You punch in tcu yet?

    Yeah - but moo - look at the situations.

    Off the top of my head - 2 INTS for TDs.  One punt that left them at the 25.  One INT to the 2 yard line.  And Tulsa fumbled on a play that was either going to be a TD, or on the next play or two. It was a stat mindfuck.

    Im in for 3 of my 5 units on TCU - the other 2 were saved for when the line got to 1.5 or so - but apparantly nobody but me got that memo that the line was supposed to go down.

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    Quote Originally Posted by gcnmoo:

    They were outgained 6.7 - 2.5 yards per play in the 1st half.  Completely went beserk in the 2H against an underrated hawaii defense unexpectedly.  Maybe Hawaii showed their true colors.  You punch in tcu yet?

    Yeah - but moo - look at the situations.

    Off the top of my head - 2 INTS for TDs.  One punt that left them at the 25.  One INT to the 2 yard line.  And Tulsa fumbled on a play that was either going to be a TD, or on the next play or two. It was a stat mindfuck.

    Im in for 3 of my 5 units on TCU - the other 2 were saved for when the line got to 1.5 or so - but apparantly nobody but me got that memo that the line was supposed to go down.

     
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    Quote Originally Posted by TRAIN69:

    Nor would I from you. You asked a question and got the only logical answer and laughed at it. Pretty much your MO.....you think you know more than everybody.

    Being correct is kinda my curse.

     

    I despise both of you (Van and Train), for reasons that are abundantly clear just from your statements here alone, thanks guys (yet alone the bullshit you've spewed over the years)..........yet here I agree w 165 (and thus w Train)......2 TDs, 2 2pts and a FG is easier to achieve than 3 TDs....and that "book" that those moron coaches consult backs this up

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    Quote Originally Posted by TRAIN69:

    Nor would I from you. You asked a question and got the only logical answer and laughed at it. Pretty much your MO.....you think you know more than everybody.

    Being correct is kinda my curse.

     

    I despise both of you (Van and Train), for reasons that are abundantly clear just from your statements here alone, thanks guys (yet alone the bullshit you've spewed over the years)..........yet here I agree w 165 (and thus w Train)......2 TDs, 2 2pts and a FG is easier to achieve than 3 TDs....and that "book" that those moron coaches consult backs this up

     
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    Quote Originally Posted by ICAPSports:

     

    I despise both of you (Van and Train), for reasons that are abundantly clear just from your statements here alone, thanks guys (yet alone the bullshit you've spewed over the years)..........yet here I agree w 165 (and thus w Train)......2 TDs, 2 2pts and a FG is easier to achieve than 3 TDs....and that "book" that those moron coaches consult backs this up

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    Quote Originally Posted by ICAPSports:

     

    I despise both of you (Van and Train), for reasons that are abundantly clear just from your statements here alone, thanks guys (yet alone the bullshit you've spewed over the years)..........yet here I agree w 165 (and thus w Train)......2 TDs, 2 2pts and a FG is easier to achieve than 3 TDs....and that "book" that those moron coaches consult backs this up

    Merry Christmas to you too pal!

     
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    Quote Originally Posted by vanzack:

    You cant be serious.

     

    I'm stunned you think your're correct.  If it's 12 OK.  But not 19, if you suggested this to any NFL coach they would laugh you off the field.  Now we're chasing points up DD?   
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    Quote Originally Posted by vanzack:

    You cant be serious.

     

    I'm stunned you think your're correct.  If it's 12 OK.  But not 19, if you suggested this to any NFL coach they would laugh you off the field.  Now we're chasing points up DD?   
     
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    Quote Originally Posted by vanzack:

    Merry Christmas to you too pal!

     

    and a Happy New Year!!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by vanzack:

    Merry Christmas to you too pal!

     

    and a Happy New Year!!!

     
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    Check that, I would only go for 2 if it was 12 and very late in the game.  I wouldn't be doing stupid things like chase points up 12 or 19 in the 3rd quarter.  Your're wrong Van, it's not even up for discussion.  Oh and Merry Christmas.
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    Check that, I would only go for 2 if it was 12 and very late in the game.  I wouldn't be doing stupid things like chase points up 12 or 19 in the 3rd quarter.  Your're wrong Van, it's not even up for discussion.  Oh and Merry Christmas.
     
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    I despise both of you (Van and Train), for reasons that are abundantly clear just from your statements here alone, thanks guys (yet alone the bullshit you've spewed over the years)..........yet here I agree w 165 (and thus w Train)......2 TDs, 2 2pts and a FG is easier to achieve than 3 TDs....and that "book" that those moron coaches consult backs this up

    By the way dipshit - and to your dipshit butt buddy Train - here is the chart.  In fact, I challenge you to find any chart out there that says not to go for it up by 19 with 7 mins left.

    THE CHART SAYS IF YOU HAVE A HIGHER THAN 27% CHANCE OF MAKING IT, GO FOR 2 WITH 7 MINS LEFT UP BY 19.

    I dont expect a response, but it is hilarious that you two morons know so little about probability.

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    I despise both of you (Van and Train), for reasons that are abundantly clear just from your statements here alone, thanks guys (yet alone the bullshit you've spewed over the years)..........yet here I agree w 165 (and thus w Train)......2 TDs, 2 2pts and a FG is easier to achieve than 3 TDs....and that "book" that those moron coaches consult backs this up

    By the way dipshit - and to your dipshit butt buddy Train - here is the chart.  In fact, I challenge you to find any chart out there that says not to go for it up by 19 with 7 mins left.

    THE CHART SAYS IF YOU HAVE A HIGHER THAN 27% CHANCE OF MAKING IT, GO FOR 2 WITH 7 MINS LEFT UP BY 19.

    I dont expect a response, but it is hilarious that you two morons know so little about probability.

     
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    I'm stunned you think your're correct.  If it's 12 OK.  But not 19, if you suggested this to any NFL coach they would laugh you off the field.  Now we're chasing points up DD?   

    Honestly dude - just google the chart.  Any chart.

    Look at the one I referenced above.  You wont find many percentages under the one for 19 with 7 mins left.  Just check it out.

    It is really a no brainer.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 165yds:

    I'm stunned you think your're correct.  If it's 12 OK.  But not 19, if you suggested this to any NFL coach they would laugh you off the field.  Now we're chasing points up DD?   

    Honestly dude - just google the chart.  Any chart.

    Look at the one I referenced above.  You wont find many percentages under the one for 19 with 7 mins left.  Just check it out.

    It is really a no brainer.

     
     
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