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    RESET

    Reminder ......
      *and yes I'm a week late on this

    Each season has (about) 3 VERY different parts to it....as most / some of you have probably noticed
    NOTE:   very broadly speaking here....no DISTINCT time frame....just be AWARE.....a teams PERFORMANCE is likely to fluctuate as the year progresses

    PART 1
      *weeks 1-3/4
    Good teams just may play poorly.....for whatever reason (Clemson)
    Average to bad teams....just might overachieve for awhile (Wyoming)

    PART 2
      *weeks 3/4 - 9/10
    A team's TRUE identity begins to surface.....
      *a few over-achievers begin to slide....as conference play begins....a lack of depth begins to show / injuries mount
      *good teams get off their azz....maybe young/key players find themselves.....etc

    PART 3
      *last 2-3 weeks of season
    Some teams shift to another gear as realization that goals still can be met / OR NOT.....
      *no shot for bowl ?.......may quit
      *maybe injured players return late
      *young team and/or...teams learning new systems...
       may in fact POOF!....be much better all of a sudden
     
     







    still fairly generic / conservative numbers....
    It is better to be feared - than to be loved.
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    Reminder ......
      *and yes I'm a week late on this

    Each season has (about) 3 VERY different parts to it....as most / some of you have probably noticed
    NOTE:   very broadly speaking here....no DISTINCT time frame....just be AWARE.....a teams PERFORMANCE is likely to fluctuate as the year progresses

    PART 1
      *weeks 1-3/4
    Good teams just may play poorly.....for whatever reason (Clemson)
    Average to bad teams....just might overachieve for awhile (Wyoming)

    PART 2
      *weeks 3/4 - 9/10
    A team's TRUE identity begins to surface.....
      *a few over-achievers begin to slide....as conference play begins....a lack of depth begins to show / injuries mount
      *good teams get off their azz....maybe young/key players find themselves.....etc

    PART 3
      *last 2-3 weeks of season
    Some teams shift to another gear as realization that goals still can be met / OR NOT.....
      *no shot for bowl ?.......may quit
      *maybe injured players return late
      *young team and/or...teams learning new systems...
       may in fact POOF!....be much better all of a sudden
     
     







    still fairly generic / conservative numbers....
     
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    still fairly generic / conservative numbers....way too many teams insist on confusing us ....
      *sorry normal rotation format not up yet.....at press time ha


    Thursday Sep 29


    NFL
    Miami @ Cincinnati -7
    8:25 PM

    Connecticut @ Houston  -18
    *recall Cougs only loss LY was to UConn
    8:00 PM

    Kansas @ Texas Tech  -28
    * TT off bye > at KSt next
    8:30 PM

    Fri Sep 30    

    Stanford -1  @ Washington
    $$  Tree 15-5 SU / 13-7 ATS / 5-15 OU on P12 road    
    9:00 PM

    Toledo @ BYU -4
    TU- off bye..
    BYU- @ WV / @ Sparty
    10:15 PM


    Sat Oct 1    

    Kansas St @ W Virginia -5
    12:00 PM
      *WV > bye next
      *KSU- FCS / TT

    Wake Forest @ NC State  -8'
    12:00 PM
      *NCSU off bye > NDame next

    N Carolina @ Florida St -8'
    12:00 PM
      *FSU- @ USF / @ Miami

    Virginia @ Duke  -3
    12:00 PM
      *Duke off Irish > Army next
      ** UV off CM > BYE next

    Louisville @ Clemson  -3
    12:00 PM
      *Clem- GT (Th) / BC
      *UL- Marshall / BYE

    S Methodist @ Temple  -12'    
    12:00 PM
      * SMU- TCU / Tulsa
      *TU- Memphis in 5

    S Florida -4 @ Cincinnati    
    12:00 PM
     
    Central FL @ E Carolina -9'
    12:00 PM
      *EC- @ VT / @ USF

    Oklahoma  @  TCU   P    
    12:00 PM
      *OU- loss > bye / TEXAS
      *TCU- SMU / Kansas

    Texas @ Oklahoma St  -5    
    12:00 PM
      *Horns- BYE / OU
      *OSU- @Bay / Iowa St

    Alcorn State @ Arkansas  -50    
    12:00 PM
      *Hogs- Aggs / Bama

    Baylor  -16 @ Iowa State    
    12:00 PM
      *B- Okie St / bye

    Ga State @ App State  -14'    
    12:00 PM
      *ASU bye next

    Miami (FL) -3 @ GA Tech    
    12:00 PM
      *Canes- bye / Fla St
      *GT- Clem (Th) / Pitt

    Minnesota @ Penn State  -4    
    12:00 PM
     
    Wisconsin @ Michigan  -10    
    12:00 PM
      *W- Sparty / bye
      *M- > Rutgers

    Northwestern @ Iowa  -10'     
    12:00 PM
      *NW- Neb / BYE
      **  Iowa covered L2 in series by 66 points
     
    Rutgers @ Ohio State  -33    
    12:00 PM
      *OSU- BYE / Indiana
       $$ Urban 8-0 SU / ATS off bye !!!


    Florida  -10  @ Vanderbilt    
    12:00 PM
      *Fla- Tenn / LSU  

    Texas A&M  -9' @ S Carolina    
    12:00 PM  
      *Aggs - Ark / Tenn
      *SC- @Kent / GEORGIA
     
    Arizona St @ USC  -6'    
    12:00 PM
       *ASU-  Cal / UCLA...covered 5/7 series
       *SC- @ Utah / Col

    Oregon St @ Colorado  -12'    
    12:00 PM
      *OSU-  Boise / Cal
      *C- @ Oreg / @ USC

    Utah -1' @ California    
    12:00 PM
      *Utes 6-3 SU / ATS P12 road
      *Cal 3-12 ATS P12 home games

    Oregon  -2  @ Wash State    
    12:00 PM
       *Ducks- Col / WASH
       *Pirate- BYE / Tree
      $$  Wazzu covered last 6 in series

    Utah State @ Boise  -13'    
    12:00 PM
      * USU- 12-7 MTW road / Boise 5-15 MTW home wtf
      * LY USU won 52-26 >>  double wtf

    Wyoming @ Colorado St   -2'    
    12:00 PM
      *W- @ EM / AF
      *CSU- @ Minny / Utah St

    SDiego St  -16'  @ S Alabama    
    12:00 PM
      *SDSU- bye / UNLV (Rocky 4-5 off bye)
      *SA- FCS / bye
      *LY SAla won AT SDSU 34-27....triple wtf

    Buffalo @ Boston Col  -20    
    12:00 PM
      *BC with Clem in 6

    N Illinois  -2'  @ Ball State    
    12:00 PM
      * NI- at WMich next

    W Mich -1 @ Central Mich    
    12:00 PM
      *BAD spot for PJ- Off Ga Southern > N Ill next

    Marshall @ Pittsburgh  -15    
    12:00 PM
      *P- @N Caro / GT

    Syracuse @ Notre Dame -17'  (@ E Rutherford, NJ)     
    12:00 PM
     
    Kentucky @ Alabama  -32    
    12:00 PM
      *Bama - @ Ark next then Tenn

    LA Monroe @ Auburn -28    
    12:00 PM
      *A- LSU / @ Miss St

    Tennessee -2 @ Georgia    
    12:00 PM
      *T- Fla / @Aggs
      *G- @Ole Miss / @SC

    Missouri @ LSU  -15            
    12:00 PM
      *LSU- @Aub / @ Fla
      $ Mizzou 12-5 SEC road

    Memphis @ Miss  -15
    12:00 PM
      *OLe Miss- Ga / BYE (Hugh 4-1)
      $  LY Mem won 37-24

    Arizona @ UCLA  -10            
    12:00 PM
       *both played BYU
       *Zona - Wash / UTAH
       *UCLA- Tree / ASU

    Ohio  -4  @ Miami (OH)    
    2:30 PM
     

    E Michigan @ BGrn  -10    
    3:00 PM

    Navy @ Air Force  -3    
    3:30 PM
     
    Akron  -2 @ Kent State    
    3:30 PM
      *Flashes off Bama

    Tulane  -6  @ U Mass     
    3:30 PM
     
    Purdue @ Maryland  -12    
    3:30 PM
      *Terps off bye > Penn St

    Illinois @ Nebraska  -18    
    3:30 PM
      *N- NW / BYE (Riley 11-4 at OSU)

    SJose St @ New Mexico  P    
    4:00 PM
      *NM- bye / BOISE
      *SJSU- at HAWAII next  

    Troy  -14  @ Idaho        
    5:00 PM
      *T- NMSU / BYE

    Old D -3 ' @ Charlotte    
    6:00 PM

    Hou Baptist @ WKU -52    
    7:00 PM
      *WKU- Vandy / LT in 5

    Inc Word @ TState  -21    
    7:00 PM

    Rice @ S Mississippi -2    
    7:00 PM

    MTenn -17 @ North Texas    
    7:00 PM
      *MTS- bye next (4-5 ATS)

    TX El Paso @ LA Tech  -20    
    7:00 PM
      *LT- WKU in 5

    FAU  -2 @ FIU           
    7:00 PM
      $ FIU 2-3 / 4-1 series

    Michigan St  -8' @ Indiana    
    8:00 PM
      *MSU- Wisky/BYU
      UI- Ohio St next
      $$$$    Sparty 15-5 B10 road

    ULL -8'  @ N Mex State    
    8:00 PM
      *check status of Rose

    Fresno St  @ UNLV -6    
    10:30 PM
      *Fresno won LY

    Nev  -3 @ Hawaii        
    11:59 PM
      $$ Nev 5-0 / 4-1 series
      *H- off bye





    LEANS.....

    ***OU***
    MIAMI
    CLEMSON ?????
    TTech
    Ohio St
    TEXAS (esp if OKIE St upsets BU)
    NW ?
    OREG ST
    WAZZU
    UTAH
    TOLEDO
    N Carolina ???
    ULL
    Mich St
    S Miss ?
    Terps ?
    AF
    Utah St
    Ball St
    Pitt
    CMich ??
    E Mich ??
    UCF
    It is better to be feared - than to be loved.
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    still fairly generic / conservative numbers....way too many teams insist on confusing us ....
      *sorry normal rotation format not up yet.....at press time ha


    Thursday Sep 29


    NFL
    Miami @ Cincinnati -7
    8:25 PM

    Connecticut @ Houston  -18
    *recall Cougs only loss LY was to UConn
    8:00 PM

    Kansas @ Texas Tech  -28
    * TT off bye > at KSt next
    8:30 PM

    Fri Sep 30    

    Stanford -1  @ Washington
    $$  Tree 15-5 SU / 13-7 ATS / 5-15 OU on P12 road    
    9:00 PM

    Toledo @ BYU -4
    TU- off bye..
    BYU- @ WV / @ Sparty
    10:15 PM


    Sat Oct 1    

    Kansas St @ W Virginia -5
    12:00 PM
      *WV > bye next
      *KSU- FCS / TT

    Wake Forest @ NC State  -8'
    12:00 PM
      *NCSU off bye > NDame next

    N Carolina @ Florida St -8'
    12:00 PM
      *FSU- @ USF / @ Miami

    Virginia @ Duke  -3
    12:00 PM
      *Duke off Irish > Army next
      ** UV off CM > BYE next

    Louisville @ Clemson  -3
    12:00 PM
      *Clem- GT (Th) / BC
      *UL- Marshall / BYE

    S Methodist @ Temple  -12'    
    12:00 PM
      * SMU- TCU / Tulsa
      *TU- Memphis in 5

    S Florida -4 @ Cincinnati    
    12:00 PM
     
    Central FL @ E Carolina -9'
    12:00 PM
      *EC- @ VT / @ USF

    Oklahoma  @  TCU   P    
    12:00 PM
      *OU- loss > bye / TEXAS
      *TCU- SMU / Kansas

    Texas @ Oklahoma St  -5    
    12:00 PM
      *Horns- BYE / OU
      *OSU- @Bay / Iowa St

    Alcorn State @ Arkansas  -50    
    12:00 PM
      *Hogs- Aggs / Bama

    Baylor  -16 @ Iowa State    
    12:00 PM
      *B- Okie St / bye

    Ga State @ App State  -14'    
    12:00 PM
      *ASU bye next

    Miami (FL) -3 @ GA Tech    
    12:00 PM
      *Canes- bye / Fla St
      *GT- Clem (Th) / Pitt

    Minnesota @ Penn State  -4    
    12:00 PM
     
    Wisconsin @ Michigan  -10    
    12:00 PM
      *W- Sparty / bye
      *M- > Rutgers

    Northwestern @ Iowa  -10'     
    12:00 PM
      *NW- Neb / BYE
      **  Iowa covered L2 in series by 66 points
     
    Rutgers @ Ohio State  -33    
    12:00 PM
      *OSU- BYE / Indiana
       $$ Urban 8-0 SU / ATS off bye !!!


    Florida  -10  @ Vanderbilt    
    12:00 PM
      *Fla- Tenn / LSU  

    Texas A&M  -9' @ S Carolina    
    12:00 PM  
      *Aggs - Ark / Tenn
      *SC- @Kent / GEORGIA
     
    Arizona St @ USC  -6'    
    12:00 PM
       *ASU-  Cal / UCLA...covered 5/7 series
       *SC- @ Utah / Col

    Oregon St @ Colorado  -12'    
    12:00 PM
      *OSU-  Boise / Cal
      *C- @ Oreg / @ USC

    Utah -1' @ California    
    12:00 PM
      *Utes 6-3 SU / ATS P12 road
      *Cal 3-12 ATS P12 home games

    Oregon  -2  @ Wash State    
    12:00 PM
       *Ducks- Col / WASH
       *Pirate- BYE / Tree
      $$  Wazzu covered last 6 in series

    Utah State @ Boise  -13'    
    12:00 PM
      * USU- 12-7 MTW road / Boise 5-15 MTW home wtf
      * LY USU won 52-26 >>  double wtf

    Wyoming @ Colorado St   -2'    
    12:00 PM
      *W- @ EM / AF
      *CSU- @ Minny / Utah St

    SDiego St  -16'  @ S Alabama    
    12:00 PM
      *SDSU- bye / UNLV (Rocky 4-5 off bye)
      *SA- FCS / bye
      *LY SAla won AT SDSU 34-27....triple wtf

    Buffalo @ Boston Col  -20    
    12:00 PM
      *BC with Clem in 6

    N Illinois  -2'  @ Ball State    
    12:00 PM
      * NI- at WMich next

    W Mich -1 @ Central Mich    
    12:00 PM
      *BAD spot for PJ- Off Ga Southern > N Ill next

    Marshall @ Pittsburgh  -15    
    12:00 PM
      *P- @N Caro / GT

    Syracuse @ Notre Dame -17'  (@ E Rutherford, NJ)     
    12:00 PM
     
    Kentucky @ Alabama  -32    
    12:00 PM
      *Bama - @ Ark next then Tenn

    LA Monroe @ Auburn -28    
    12:00 PM
      *A- LSU / @ Miss St

    Tennessee -2 @ Georgia    
    12:00 PM
      *T- Fla / @Aggs
      *G- @Ole Miss / @SC

    Missouri @ LSU  -15            
    12:00 PM
      *LSU- @Aub / @ Fla
      $ Mizzou 12-5 SEC road

    Memphis @ Miss  -15
    12:00 PM
      *OLe Miss- Ga / BYE (Hugh 4-1)
      $  LY Mem won 37-24

    Arizona @ UCLA  -10            
    12:00 PM
       *both played BYU
       *Zona - Wash / UTAH
       *UCLA- Tree / ASU

    Ohio  -4  @ Miami (OH)    
    2:30 PM
     

    E Michigan @ BGrn  -10    
    3:00 PM

    Navy @ Air Force  -3    
    3:30 PM
     
    Akron  -2 @ Kent State    
    3:30 PM
      *Flashes off Bama

    Tulane  -6  @ U Mass     
    3:30 PM
     
    Purdue @ Maryland  -12    
    3:30 PM
      *Terps off bye > Penn St

    Illinois @ Nebraska  -18    
    3:30 PM
      *N- NW / BYE (Riley 11-4 at OSU)

    SJose St @ New Mexico  P    
    4:00 PM
      *NM- bye / BOISE
      *SJSU- at HAWAII next  

    Troy  -14  @ Idaho        
    5:00 PM
      *T- NMSU / BYE

    Old D -3 ' @ Charlotte    
    6:00 PM

    Hou Baptist @ WKU -52    
    7:00 PM
      *WKU- Vandy / LT in 5

    Inc Word @ TState  -21    
    7:00 PM

    Rice @ S Mississippi -2    
    7:00 PM

    MTenn -17 @ North Texas    
    7:00 PM
      *MTS- bye next (4-5 ATS)

    TX El Paso @ LA Tech  -20    
    7:00 PM
      *LT- WKU in 5

    FAU  -2 @ FIU           
    7:00 PM
      $ FIU 2-3 / 4-1 series

    Michigan St  -8' @ Indiana    
    8:00 PM
      *MSU- Wisky/BYU
      UI- Ohio St next
      $$$$    Sparty 15-5 B10 road

    ULL -8'  @ N Mex State    
    8:00 PM
      *check status of Rose

    Fresno St  @ UNLV -6    
    10:30 PM
      *Fresno won LY

    Nev  -3 @ Hawaii        
    11:59 PM
      $$ Nev 5-0 / 4-1 series
      *H- off bye





    LEANS.....

    ***OU***
    MIAMI
    CLEMSON ?????
    TTech
    Ohio St
    TEXAS (esp if OKIE St upsets BU)
    NW ?
    OREG ST
    WAZZU
    UTAH
    TOLEDO
    N Carolina ???
    ULL
    Mich St
    S Miss ?
    Terps ?
    AF
    Utah St
    Ball St
    Pitt
    CMich ??
    E Mich ??
    UCF
     
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    great working ahead and info as usual...leaning Clemson, Miami, TT, MSU and USM although could be in the teens depending on this week..liking a lot of matchups next week, BOL bookie
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    Quote Originally Posted by nostradamus12:

    great working ahead and info as usual...leaning Clemson, Miami, TT, MSU and USM although could be in the teens depending on this week..liking a lot of matchups next week, BOL bookie


    *    yep sorry 'bout that boys....

    Rice @ S Mississippi -20   
    7:00 PM

    thinking S Miss gets back on track / Rice struggles with NT
    * if not 17ish


    Check out those Sooners man.....good spot for Big Bob to get back on track.....before they wore down / SMU secondary gave Frogs all kinds of problems.....anybody that can fog up a mirror has moved it on their D......BOL this week buddy..............

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    Quote Originally Posted by nostradamus12:

    great working ahead and info as usual...leaning Clemson, Miami, TT, MSU and USM although could be in the teens depending on this week..liking a lot of matchups next week, BOL bookie


    *    yep sorry 'bout that boys....

    Rice @ S Mississippi -20   
    7:00 PM

    thinking S Miss gets back on track / Rice struggles with NT
    * if not 17ish


    Check out those Sooners man.....good spot for Big Bob to get back on track.....before they wore down / SMU secondary gave Frogs all kinds of problems.....anybody that can fog up a mirror has moved it on their D......BOL this week buddy..............

     
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    FORGOT...

    If I can.....I might PARLAY that MOFO.....

    NO DEFENSE......on the road?
     # 1 in nation? >  OKLAHOMA Sooners.....21/29 OVER.....recent  > 12/15.....9/10
        *Frogs 13/22 home games over as well


    BOTH early numbers worthy of CLOSE inspection.......
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    If I can.....I might PARLAY that MOFO.....

    NO DEFENSE......on the road?
     # 1 in nation? >  OKLAHOMA Sooners.....21/29 OVER.....recent  > 12/15.....9/10
        *Frogs 13/22 home games over as well


    BOTH early numbers worthy of CLOSE inspection.......
     
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    Prep work thoughts....

    FORGET...thinking about what the opener will be....
      *a challenge...and fun but a time waste....what's the point?...to PREPARE yourself psychologically.... wtf
        how 'bout knowing what to do?....when to do it?
            note:  no offense to DoubleUp

    BETTER?....
      1)  what 'should' it be?
      2)  which way will it move FROM the opener?
      3)  where will it close?
        
     GOAL of course knowing WHEN you can get the line you want

    eg.    I don't give a rats azz what the Clemson / Louisville opener will be
     
    IF...Clemson is less than a 3 pt fav I'm gonna MAKE THE PLAY. (one unit on Clemson)....IF...over 3 I'll pass.....if close to pick a slightly larger play maybe....if I get a (maybe) horrific BetOnline opener of Clemson as a dog...a LARGER play

    What 'should' the line be?
      *note very tough to set an accurate number for the INCREDIBLY explosive Louisville

    IDEAS....if game was played at the END of 2015...what would the line have been?
      *meaning how much has Louisville (probably) improved?...what makes sense?

    GOAL:   removing your EMOTIONS from the equation
      *don't be afraid boys....the MATH is simple .......

          answer....(about) Clemson -16'-17.....if you think that Louisville was much better than that.....then around 14....which would suggest they were about as good as Michigan St...Miss St....or USC...............................

    THEN.....how much (worse) is THIS Clemson team?.......
       *I think (at this point)...3 points is fair

    SO.................we're now at Clemson -13'-14
     (2016 Clemson vs 2015 Louisville)
      
    An opening line of 3.....suggests that UL has totally closed the gap
      *meaning UL has improved a FULL 10 points.....AND are now every bit as good as Clemson....a 13-14 point line swing

    MAKE SENSE?........MAYBE so sure.......but PROBABLY not .....IMO anyway
     
    POINT?....
    *IF you want to invest your money WISELY...and not be MR. RECREATIONAL bettor / simple internet jack-azz...it's always good to try and QUANTIFY things

    Check out the raw emotion in that thread....'predicting the opener'.............
      *WHY so emotional?....because you really have no idea what the correct answer is...........of course

    NOBODY.....even attempts to back up their number...."if you don't think it's gonna be so-so then you sir are an IDIOT!".......

    I listed it as 3.....a fair number maybe....maybe I didn't want to start a riot....or deal with insults / death threats.....

      *BUT....you wanna talk common sense.....seems to me that Clemson should be regarded (at least) 2-3 pts better.....
      *a home field edge of 3.....3.5 or so maybe more accurate...would give us a fair line of 5-6 or so...which I don't (think?).....we'll see
      *esp since I think the Clemson D has the speed to match up with the Louisville O....few D's do....(I think Fla State's D is much slower than usual)

    I think we'll see an opener of 3 or so....and to be honest.....I have no idea where it goes from there.....'smart' money.....takes it UP or DOWN?.....I would think down.....but no shocker if it goes up (it really should) 

    Reconsidering ha....being clueless....like most folks.....I think I'll make a small play at < 3 ....on Clemson....then see if I can get a better deal later
      *if close to pick-em....I'll go ahead and hit it.............




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    Prep work thoughts....

    FORGET...thinking about what the opener will be....
      *a challenge...and fun but a time waste....what's the point?...to PREPARE yourself psychologically.... wtf
        how 'bout knowing what to do?....when to do it?
            note:  no offense to DoubleUp

    BETTER?....
      1)  what 'should' it be?
      2)  which way will it move FROM the opener?
      3)  where will it close?
        
     GOAL of course knowing WHEN you can get the line you want

    eg.    I don't give a rats azz what the Clemson / Louisville opener will be
     
    IF...Clemson is less than a 3 pt fav I'm gonna MAKE THE PLAY. (one unit on Clemson)....IF...over 3 I'll pass.....if close to pick a slightly larger play maybe....if I get a (maybe) horrific BetOnline opener of Clemson as a dog...a LARGER play

    What 'should' the line be?
      *note very tough to set an accurate number for the INCREDIBLY explosive Louisville

    IDEAS....if game was played at the END of 2015...what would the line have been?
      *meaning how much has Louisville (probably) improved?...what makes sense?

    GOAL:   removing your EMOTIONS from the equation
      *don't be afraid boys....the MATH is simple .......

          answer....(about) Clemson -16'-17.....if you think that Louisville was much better than that.....then around 14....which would suggest they were about as good as Michigan St...Miss St....or USC...............................

    THEN.....how much (worse) is THIS Clemson team?.......
       *I think (at this point)...3 points is fair

    SO.................we're now at Clemson -13'-14
     (2016 Clemson vs 2015 Louisville)
      
    An opening line of 3.....suggests that UL has totally closed the gap
      *meaning UL has improved a FULL 10 points.....AND are now every bit as good as Clemson....a 13-14 point line swing

    MAKE SENSE?........MAYBE so sure.......but PROBABLY not .....IMO anyway
     
    POINT?....
    *IF you want to invest your money WISELY...and not be MR. RECREATIONAL bettor / simple internet jack-azz...it's always good to try and QUANTIFY things

    Check out the raw emotion in that thread....'predicting the opener'.............
      *WHY so emotional?....because you really have no idea what the correct answer is...........of course

    NOBODY.....even attempts to back up their number...."if you don't think it's gonna be so-so then you sir are an IDIOT!".......

    I listed it as 3.....a fair number maybe....maybe I didn't want to start a riot....or deal with insults / death threats.....

      *BUT....you wanna talk common sense.....seems to me that Clemson should be regarded (at least) 2-3 pts better.....
      *a home field edge of 3.....3.5 or so maybe more accurate...would give us a fair line of 5-6 or so...which I don't (think?).....we'll see
      *esp since I think the Clemson D has the speed to match up with the Louisville O....few D's do....(I think Fla State's D is much slower than usual)

    I think we'll see an opener of 3 or so....and to be honest.....I have no idea where it goes from there.....'smart' money.....takes it UP or DOWN?.....I would think down.....but no shocker if it goes up (it really should) 

    Reconsidering ha....being clueless....like most folks.....I think I'll make a small play at < 3 ....on Clemson....then see if I can get a better deal later
      *if close to pick-em....I'll go ahead and hit it.............




     
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    Bumping this.

    Can't seem to figure OU out ever, but truly not impressed with TCU.

    Smiss still looks good at -20.

    Can't play Clemson - have only seen them play to their level for a half this season.  Seems like a bet on faith that they find their form.

    Is Wisky for real?  Wait, Mich St just fumbled AGAIN.

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    Bumping this.

    Can't seem to figure OU out ever, but truly not impressed with TCU.

    Smiss still looks good at -20.

    Can't play Clemson - have only seen them play to their level for a half this season.  Seems like a bet on faith that they find their form.

    Is Wisky for real?  Wait, Mich St just fumbled AGAIN.

    GL BA


     
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    hadn't really put OU on the radar yet, good thought...projects around PK hoping somehow for FG+....neither with much pass D...maybe OU a little more focused to rebound and TCU hasn't really proven LY was a fluke yet....agree Clemson likely to be FG...something like 21-1 SU at home lately....'13 loss to eventual champ FSU...tough to predict SU UL win even as sharp as they've been

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    hadn't really put OU on the radar yet, good thought...projects around PK hoping somehow for FG+....neither with much pass D...maybe OU a little more focused to rebound and TCU hasn't really proven LY was a fluke yet....agree Clemson likely to be FG...something like 21-1 SU at home lately....'13 loss to eventual champ FSU...tough to predict SU UL win even as sharp as they've been

     
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    THINK ....
    Lebron (Watson).....vs Stephanie (LJ)
      *who's REALLY the man?..........................................


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    Thanks again my friend. The games that stood out to me last night when I was looking at this weeks schedule is Miami, I think USF will bounce back strong against Cincinnati, Troy, Syracuse and FSU.
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    Thanks again my friend. The games that stood out to me last night when I was looking at this weeks schedule is Miami, I think USF will bounce back strong against Cincinnati, Troy, Syracuse and FSU.
     
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    And Clemson is going to take care of Louisville like you stated you and I agree whole heartedly with your view on the spread. The defensive line is going to contain Louisville and be the difference int the outcome of the game.
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    And Clemson is going to take care of Louisville like you stated you and I agree whole heartedly with your view on the spread. The defensive line is going to contain Louisville and be the difference int the outcome of the game.
     
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    Kelly at Notre Dame has serious problems with his team right now, especially on the defensive side of the ball, and the fans are calling for the head of the defensive coordinator. They actually were calling out his name yesterday chanting he has to go.
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    Kelly at Notre Dame has serious problems with his team right now, especially on the defensive side of the ball, and the fans are calling for the head of the defensive coordinator. They actually were calling out his name yesterday chanting he has to go.
     
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    UPDATED leans.....


    OU and / or OVER
    TTech...mark 'em down for 60 at least
    Clemson
    Washington
    Ohio St...bet 1st number
    S Miss.....ditto
    Oregon St !!
    Texas...maybe 1H better
    NC St...WF had 5 INT / out-gained 611 > 352 
    Mizzou....LSU off (really) tough loss eh
    N Mex St...ULL off 4 OT loss/Rose back
    TEMPLE...RB Thomas back...Ponies gotta fade......?
    Wazzu ?....they (already) own the Ducks...ATS wise
    Mich St ??....great road team
    Tenn ????....you would think but......
    Navy....???....nice spot for tremendous road dog
    Miami...rest vs TOUGH loss
    Ball St ??.....NI is a BAD team
    La Tech....bounce back vs very poor road team
    MTS...lean green celebrating for months....maybe GREAT 2H play
      MTS QB is top notch
    SYRACUSE....1H maybe better / maybe Irish 2H and/or OVER
      *note:   sorry boys missed neutral site earlier...call it -13' or so
    Kan St why not
    E Mich...they play hard / much improved
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    OU and / or OVER
    TTech...mark 'em down for 60 at least
    Clemson
    Washington
    Ohio St...bet 1st number
    S Miss.....ditto
    Oregon St !!
    Texas...maybe 1H better
    NC St...WF had 5 INT / out-gained 611 > 352 
    Mizzou....LSU off (really) tough loss eh
    N Mex St...ULL off 4 OT loss/Rose back
    TEMPLE...RB Thomas back...Ponies gotta fade......?
    Wazzu ?....they (already) own the Ducks...ATS wise
    Mich St ??....great road team
    Tenn ????....you would think but......
    Navy....???....nice spot for tremendous road dog
    Miami...rest vs TOUGH loss
    Ball St ??.....NI is a BAD team
    La Tech....bounce back vs very poor road team
    MTS...lean green celebrating for months....maybe GREAT 2H play
      MTS QB is top notch
    SYRACUSE....1H maybe better / maybe Irish 2H and/or OVER
      *note:   sorry boys missed neutral site earlier...call it -13' or so
    Kan St why not
    E Mich...they play hard / much improved
     
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    Quote Originally Posted by BandosWB:

    Bumping this.

    Can't seem to figure OU out ever, but truly not impressed with TCU.

    Smiss still looks good at -20.

    Can't play Clemson - have only seen them play to their level for a half this season.  Seems like a bet on faith that they find their form.

    Is Wisky for real?  Wait, Mich St just fumbled AGAIN.

    GL BA




    OU?.....easy
      *big game with big expectations?....fade or avoid

    OFF A LOSS?......big Bob is great....see Kansas St LY

    As a bully?.....great
      *esp vs a team that doesn't fight back very hard.....TCU definitely a tough team that usually gives OU problems.....but Frogs D seems MUCH weaker to me....helll before they wore down...SMU was pushing them around for awhile

      $$  could be wrong....but looks like a great spot for them to get back on track....Frogs ain't going ANYWHERE

    BTW......that took huge balls to go against the ol' BA...on his favorite play.......... 
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    Bumping this.

    Can't seem to figure OU out ever, but truly not impressed with TCU.

    Smiss still looks good at -20.

    Can't play Clemson - have only seen them play to their level for a half this season.  Seems like a bet on faith that they find their form.

    Is Wisky for real?  Wait, Mich St just fumbled AGAIN.

    GL BA




    OU?.....easy
      *big game with big expectations?....fade or avoid

    OFF A LOSS?......big Bob is great....see Kansas St LY

    As a bully?.....great
      *esp vs a team that doesn't fight back very hard.....TCU definitely a tough team that usually gives OU problems.....but Frogs D seems MUCH weaker to me....helll before they wore down...SMU was pushing them around for awhile

      $$  could be wrong....but looks like a great spot for them to get back on track....Frogs ain't going ANYWHERE

    BTW......that took huge balls to go against the ol' BA...on his favorite play.......... 
     
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    Quote Originally Posted by Urbanwildlife:

    Thanks again my friend. The games that stood out to me last night when I was looking at this weeks schedule is Miami, I think USF will bounce back strong against Cincinnati, Troy, Syracuse and FSU.


    good man Urban.....those look like good ideas....agree.....
      *think I'll take the Cuse 1H....pending further research...then 2H OVER.....maybe Irish 2H if down 
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    Thanks again my friend. The games that stood out to me last night when I was looking at this weeks schedule is Miami, I think USF will bounce back strong against Cincinnati, Troy, Syracuse and FSU.


    good man Urban.....those look like good ideas....agree.....
      *think I'll take the Cuse 1H....pending further research...then 2H OVER.....maybe Irish 2H if down 
     
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    LETS SWEEP THE BOARD 
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    last week

    LIKE

    Ole Miss  -6'     W
    Tulsa  -10          L
    Okie St  +10      L
    Iowa St -6'        W
    Tulsa -10  2H    W   


    not bad

    Ariz St  -2'          W  ha
    Wyoming -2         L 
    S Miss  -9'          W
    Pitt  +7'              W
    Mia, O.  +20'      W
    ULL  +5'             W
    Miss St -10' 2H   W
    UNLV -7' 2H        L

    m a y b e

    Ga Southern  +7'   L
    S Caro +2              L
    UCF  -4'                W
    Memphis  -16'       W  
    NW  +7'                 L

    recommended plays        34-17
        like-               14-9
        not bad          20-8
           *hunches    11-11
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    LIKE

    Ole Miss  -6'     W
    Tulsa  -10          L
    Okie St  +10      L
    Iowa St -6'        W
    Tulsa -10  2H    W   


    not bad

    Ariz St  -2'          W  ha
    Wyoming -2         L 
    S Miss  -9'          W
    Pitt  +7'              W
    Mia, O.  +20'      W
    ULL  +5'             W
    Miss St -10' 2H   W
    UNLV -7' 2H        L

    m a y b e

    Ga Southern  +7'   L
    S Caro +2              L
    UCF  -4'                W
    Memphis  -16'       W  
    NW  +7'                 L

    recommended plays        34-17
        like-               14-9
        not bad          20-8
           *hunches    11-11
     
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    Posted: Sep. 25, 2016 - 5:13 PM ET #19

    Any thoughts on Vandy/UF BA? 

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    Posted: Sep. 25, 2016 - 5:24 PM ET #20

    Quote Originally Posted by Urbanwildlife:

    Kelly at Notre Dame has serious problems with his team right now, especially on the defensive side of the ball, and the fans are calling for the head of the defensive coordinator. They actually were calling out his name yesterday chanting he has to go.

    Kelly calling out the players on the field is hilarious....  maybe if he would coach them up on and off the field half of his defense wouldn't be suspended or kicked off the team
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    Kelly at Notre Dame has serious problems with his team right now, especially on the defensive side of the ball, and the fans are calling for the head of the defensive coordinator. They actually were calling out his name yesterday chanting he has to go.

    Kelly calling out the players on the field is hilarious....  maybe if he would coach them up on and off the field half of his defense wouldn't be suspended or kicked off the team
     
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    Posted: Sep. 25, 2016 - 5:31 PM ET #21

    Nice work! GL this week bud. 
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    Posted: Sep. 25, 2016 - 7:19 PM ET #22

    Quote Originally Posted by bookieassassin:





    BTW......that took huge balls to go against the ol' BA...on his favorite play.......... 

    Well, like an idiot, played it at opener before QB Potter was ruled out.    Shoulda bought out.

    grabbed OH st, NC st, NAVY, WMU, Miami, Akron and OK at the open.  
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    BTW......that took huge balls to go against the ol' BA...on his favorite play.......... 

    Well, like an idiot, played it at opener before QB Potter was ruled out.    Shoulda bought out.

    grabbed OH st, NC st, NAVY, WMU, Miami, Akron and OK at the open.  
     
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    Posted: Sep. 25, 2016 - 7:23 PM ET #23

    Agree about OU... Bounceback Bob
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    Posted: Sep. 25, 2016 - 7:24 PM ET #24

    sorry boys....nothing like working all day Sunday / most of Saturday.....



    LIKE

    OU                 P
    Clemson      -2
    A&M             -13'
    Navy            +10'
    Oreg St       +16'
    Wash             -2'


    not bad

    Mizzou        +14
    Ball St          +3'
    Temple        -13'
    TT                - 27
    S Miss         -20


    looking at.....

    ULM.....shoulda hit that 34
    MTS at 14
    EMich
    Terps
    WYO  +7 .....?
    Vols ??
    Ga St +21????
    Vandy
    NMSU
    Troy -13'.....TRAP !!!!!!!........................

    back later.........


    ...







    It is better to be feared - than to be loved.
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    sorry boys....nothing like working all day Sunday / most of Saturday.....



    LIKE

    OU                 P
    Clemson      -2
    A&M             -13'
    Navy            +10'
    Oreg St       +16'
    Wash             -2'


    not bad

    Mizzou        +14
    Ball St          +3'
    Temple        -13'
    TT                - 27
    S Miss         -20


    looking at.....

    ULM.....shoulda hit that 34
    MTS at 14
    EMich
    Terps
    WYO  +7 .....?
    Vols ??
    Ga St +21????
    Vandy
    NMSU
    Troy -13'.....TRAP !!!!!!!........................

    back later.........


    ...







     
     
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    Posted: Sep. 25, 2016 - 7:27 PM ET #25

    Quote Originally Posted by MosesGuthrie:

    Any thoughts on Vandy/UF BA? 



    YEP.........stay away for me.....i think
      * last few times I've bet on Vandy I LOSE
    Looks like a lot  of points in a very low scoring game don't it?.....
    It is better to be feared - than to be loved.
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    Quote Originally Posted by MosesGuthrie:

    Any thoughts on Vandy/UF BA? 



    YEP.........stay away for me.....i think
      * last few times I've bet on Vandy I LOSE
    Looks like a lot  of points in a very low scoring game don't it?.....
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