hahaha u stupid ill see u after the game wen u have a big L on ur forehead toledo
becareful bro.... everyone might be laughing at you if toledo covers. maybe after the game finishes if you want to be a little kid then come here and gloat... but before the game ? cmon have some class and wish this guy BOL.
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Quote Originally Posted by bigbill365:
hahaha u stupid ill see u after the game wen u have a big L on ur forehead toledo
becareful bro.... everyone might be laughing at you if toledo covers. maybe after the game finishes if you want to be a little kid then come here and gloat... but before the game ? cmon have some class and wish this guy BOL.
You "experts" on covers need to make up your mind. We all know Boise is a covering machine which is why I don't understand why they shouldn't cover against a weak, tired and less talented Toledo. I think teasing Boise or playing them straight up is the freebie of this week ladies
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You "experts" on covers need to make up your mind. We all know Boise is a covering machine which is why I don't understand why they shouldn't cover against a weak, tired and less talented Toledo. I think teasing Boise or playing them straight up is the freebie of this week ladies
becareful bro.... everyone might be laughing at you if toledo covers. maybe after the game finishes if you want to be a little kid then come here and gloat... but before the game ? cmon have some class and wish this guy BOL. y would i wish him luck i have 5 dimes on the game and this toledo line is only 20 points and not higher because of the game with osu but lets face it Ohio sate isnt the same team as last year
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Quote Originally Posted by one_hit_wonder:
becareful bro.... everyone might be laughing at you if toledo covers. maybe after the game finishes if you want to be a little kid then come here and gloat... but before the game ? cmon have some class and wish this guy BOL. y would i wish him luck i have 5 dimes on the game and this toledo line is only 20 points and not higher because of the game with osu but lets face it Ohio sate isnt the same team as last year
The game comes down to Boise State Defense stopping Toledo's run like Ohio State was able to if OSU was not able to completely shut them down then Toledo wins that game by 10. Boise is a covering machine at home but I promise you one thing with the game being on a Friday Nite Boise will get Toledo's full effort; this game was circled on the schedule. Boise needs to enjoy this year because without 5th year K Moore and a lot of people leaving; it will take a few years for them to get back into good bowl game
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The game comes down to Boise State Defense stopping Toledo's run like Ohio State was able to if OSU was not able to completely shut them down then Toledo wins that game by 10. Boise is a covering machine at home but I promise you one thing with the game being on a Friday Nite Boise will get Toledo's full effort; this game was circled on the schedule. Boise needs to enjoy this year because without 5th year K Moore and a lot of people leaving; it will take a few years for them to get back into good bowl game
Basically it will come down to Boise State and if they decide to let up. Because of the National Spot Light once again, I think not and Boise in my opinion is the correct side. Good luck though.....
Pura Vida
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Basically it will come down to Boise State and if they decide to let up. Because of the National Spot Light once again, I think not and Boise in my opinion is the correct side. Good luck though.....
Boise won't let up until they hang 50 on the Rockets. This is their last chance to win all the marbles. If they can...they will put up 50..60..70..won't matter. Boise has something prove to the NCAA..unfortunately Toledo will end up being another victim in a long line of them this year for Boise. Call your book and see if you can get your money back....
Good Luck and enjoy the game tonight.
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Boise won't let up until they hang 50 on the Rockets. This is their last chance to win all the marbles. If they can...they will put up 50..60..70..won't matter. Boise has something prove to the NCAA..unfortunately Toledo will end up being another victim in a long line of them this year for Boise. Call your book and see if you can get your money back....
The game comes down to Boise State Defense stopping Toledo's run like Ohio State was able to if OSU was not able to completely shut them down then Toledo wins that game by 10. Boise is a covering machine at home but I promise you one thing with the game being on a Friday Nite Boise will get Toledo's full effort; this game was circled on the schedule. Boise needs to enjoy this year because without 5th year K Moore and a lot of people leaving; it will take a few years for them to get back into good bowl game
-Boise pretty much shut down the Georgia ground game except for 1 play. It's on the Covers front page.
-from Covers front page: Boise State has covered in 20 of its last 27 road games.
-on Fridays BOISE STATE is 27-2
-Look at those Offensive stats vs Georgia (probably 35-45 ranked team) and tell me Toledo is better? Highly unlikely
-Average what Boise St did last year to the entire MAC conference.
I have no College Team as I bet on the games. All the stats and common sense say good choices are Boise State -20 and probably the OVER.
I agree that anything CAN happen but the overall numbers, stats, coaching points, etc. are stacked in this contest.
FACT: I was in Vegas for opening weekend and this guy in front of me at CAESARS put 10g's on Memphis +35 vs. Mississippi State.
It's your own money and seriously BEST OF LUCK!
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Quote Originally Posted by Handicapper33:
The game comes down to Boise State Defense stopping Toledo's run like Ohio State was able to if OSU was not able to completely shut them down then Toledo wins that game by 10. Boise is a covering machine at home but I promise you one thing with the game being on a Friday Nite Boise will get Toledo's full effort; this game was circled on the schedule. Boise needs to enjoy this year because without 5th year K Moore and a lot of people leaving; it will take a few years for them to get back into good bowl game
-Boise pretty much shut down the Georgia ground game except for 1 play. It's on the Covers front page.
-from Covers front page: Boise State has covered in 20 of its last 27 road games.
-on Fridays BOISE STATE is 27-2
-Look at those Offensive stats vs Georgia (probably 35-45 ranked team) and tell me Toledo is better? Highly unlikely
-Average what Boise St did last year to the entire MAC conference.
I have no College Team as I bet on the games. All the stats and common sense say good choices are Boise State -20 and probably the OVER.
I agree that anything CAN happen but the overall numbers, stats, coaching points, etc. are stacked in this contest.
FACT: I was in Vegas for opening weekend and this guy in front of me at CAESARS put 10g's on Memphis +35 vs. Mississippi State.
To start I locked Boise in early at -18.5 so there is chance we may both cash, but I am going to give you my opinion,
1) We already have Boise critics talking about schedule and Georgia being weaker than VT last year. So they will feel the need to poor it on. They will see this is a chance to make themselves look far superior of a squard compared to Ohio State.
2) Boise is on a week rest with only Tulsa on deck on the blue turf. They had a full opportunity to watch Toledo operate.
3) We have seen teams after NCAA investigations or sanctions come out with a chip on their shoulder. The stick it to the man or you can't keep us down mentality.
4) This game is not about Boise stopping Toledo it is about Toledo stopping Boise. With last years leading tackler Dan Molls out along with Paige and Bell I just don't see the leadership to be able to control one of the best Quarterbacks in the country.
With that said good luck to all this is not about us hating on each other its not my money you are taking its the Books. So good luck guys I hope the number lands on 19 and we are all cashing tonight.
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To start I locked Boise in early at -18.5 so there is chance we may both cash, but I am going to give you my opinion,
1) We already have Boise critics talking about schedule and Georgia being weaker than VT last year. So they will feel the need to poor it on. They will see this is a chance to make themselves look far superior of a squard compared to Ohio State.
2) Boise is on a week rest with only Tulsa on deck on the blue turf. They had a full opportunity to watch Toledo operate.
3) We have seen teams after NCAA investigations or sanctions come out with a chip on their shoulder. The stick it to the man or you can't keep us down mentality.
4) This game is not about Boise stopping Toledo it is about Toledo stopping Boise. With last years leading tackler Dan Molls out along with Paige and Bell I just don't see the leadership to be able to control one of the best Quarterbacks in the country.
With that said good luck to all this is not about us hating on each other its not my money you are taking its the Books. So good luck guys I hope the number lands on 19 and we are all cashing tonight.
JUST FOR THE RECORD....TOLEDO WONT BE PLAYING WITH ITS TOP 3 DEFENDERS......K. MOORE WILL SLICE AND DICE THEM ..... DONT GET ME WRONG... THIS LINES IS THE REFLECT OF OSU PLAYING LIKE SHIT AND TOLEDO ALMOST PULLUP AN UPSET ....IM NOT SAYING TOLEDO WONT PLAY AT THE BEST THEY CAN TODAY ...BUT TOLEDO WASNT LOOKING UP TO TODAYS GAME THEY GAVE THEIR ZILLION PERCENT ON OSU AS THEY WANT TO KNOCK THEM DOWN SO BAD BUT THEY COULDNT.... HOME FIELD IS NO ADVANTAGE TO TOLEDO AS BOISE HAS PLAYED IN BIGEER STAGES ...BOISE IS WELL PREPARED FOR TOLEDO AND IS WAY FAR BETER TEAM THAN OSU ...... TOLEDO MIGHT NOT GET SHUT OUT BUTA A 30+ VICTORY OF BOISE IS VERY LIKELY
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JUST FOR THE RECORD....TOLEDO WONT BE PLAYING WITH ITS TOP 3 DEFENDERS......K. MOORE WILL SLICE AND DICE THEM ..... DONT GET ME WRONG... THIS LINES IS THE REFLECT OF OSU PLAYING LIKE SHIT AND TOLEDO ALMOST PULLUP AN UPSET ....IM NOT SAYING TOLEDO WONT PLAY AT THE BEST THEY CAN TODAY ...BUT TOLEDO WASNT LOOKING UP TO TODAYS GAME THEY GAVE THEIR ZILLION PERCENT ON OSU AS THEY WANT TO KNOCK THEM DOWN SO BAD BUT THEY COULDNT.... HOME FIELD IS NO ADVANTAGE TO TOLEDO AS BOISE HAS PLAYED IN BIGEER STAGES ...BOISE IS WELL PREPARED FOR TOLEDO AND IS WAY FAR BETER TEAM THAN OSU ...... TOLEDO MIGHT NOT GET SHUT OUT BUTA A 30+ VICTORY OF BOISE IS VERY LIKELY
JUST FOR THE RECORD....TOLEDO WONT BE PLAYING WITH ITS TOP 3 DEFENDERS......K. MOORE WILL SLICE AND DICE THEM ..... DONT GET ME WRONG... THIS LINES IS THE REFLECT OF OSU PLAYING LIKE SHIT AND TOLEDO ALMOST PULLUP AN UPSET ....IM NOT SAYING TOLEDO WONT PLAY AT THE BEST THEY CAN TODAY ...BUT TOLEDO WASNT LOOKING UP TO TODAYS GAME THEY GAVE THEIR ZILLION PERCENT ON OSU AS THEY WANT TO KNOCK THEM DOWN SO BAD BUT THEY COULDNT.... HOME FIELD IS NO ADVANTAGE TO TOLEDO AS BOISE HAS PLAYED IN BIGEER STAGES ...BOISE IS WELL PREPARED FOR TOLEDO AND IS WAY FAR BETER TEAM THAN OSU ...... TOLEDO MIGHT NOT GET SHUT OUT BUTA A 30+ VICTORY OF BOISE IS VERY LIKELY
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Quote Originally Posted by shark_apreza:
JUST FOR THE RECORD....TOLEDO WONT BE PLAYING WITH ITS TOP 3 DEFENDERS......K. MOORE WILL SLICE AND DICE THEM ..... DONT GET ME WRONG... THIS LINES IS THE REFLECT OF OSU PLAYING LIKE SHIT AND TOLEDO ALMOST PULLUP AN UPSET ....IM NOT SAYING TOLEDO WONT PLAY AT THE BEST THEY CAN TODAY ...BUT TOLEDO WASNT LOOKING UP TO TODAYS GAME THEY GAVE THEIR ZILLION PERCENT ON OSU AS THEY WANT TO KNOCK THEM DOWN SO BAD BUT THEY COULDNT.... HOME FIELD IS NO ADVANTAGE TO TOLEDO AS BOISE HAS PLAYED IN BIGEER STAGES ...BOISE IS WELL PREPARED FOR TOLEDO AND IS WAY FAR BETER TEAM THAN OSU ...... TOLEDO MIGHT NOT GET SHUT OUT BUTA A 30+ VICTORY OF BOISE IS VERY LIKELY
destroyed your capping cred instantly there 33... Broncos are a VERY physical team offensively AND defensively....unlike say Bama (who doesn't feel like they need to do it)....they just use tactics designed make themselves tougher to stop / defend / prepare for ..... *although you did a better job justifying your point than those SEC butt-blasters did LW....
*betting against Boise is NEVER even close to being easiest on board....wtf?.....if so... why just a medium play? .......
* Rockets look tough on that Friday home game do they?.....kinda like last year on a Friday ....where they lost 41-2 to Zona?.....(Boise about 10 pts than LY Zona)....Toledo better sure.....so is Boise
* Boise better at HOME?.....NO they're not Broncos have covered 18 of their last 22 games away from home....Peterson is 9-3 ATS with rest.....AND.....25-15 ATS vs revenge (Boise won LY 57-14)
*Boise rested/healthy....an OL and FB are ??.....they get SS Cedric Febis back here..... Rockets?.....off huge emotional and physical game....with BEST defensive players OUT MLB Molls...SLB Bell...Rover Ballard booted earlier....FS Singer out.....and CB Paige is doubtful..
Personally ....I not smart enough to bet Boise here myself......as line should be 14-15 maybe... *Boise 1H on the road is almost automatic (10')...lean over...if Rockets are moving ball any....maybe consider Toledo 2H/over...if not...Boise often shuts it down 2H if up big ....lean under
It is better to be feared - than to be loved.
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finesse team like Boise
destroyed your capping cred instantly there 33... Broncos are a VERY physical team offensively AND defensively....unlike say Bama (who doesn't feel like they need to do it)....they just use tactics designed make themselves tougher to stop / defend / prepare for ..... *although you did a better job justifying your point than those SEC butt-blasters did LW....
*betting against Boise is NEVER even close to being easiest on board....wtf?.....if so... why just a medium play? .......
* Rockets look tough on that Friday home game do they?.....kinda like last year on a Friday ....where they lost 41-2 to Zona?.....(Boise about 10 pts than LY Zona)....Toledo better sure.....so is Boise
* Boise better at HOME?.....NO they're not Broncos have covered 18 of their last 22 games away from home....Peterson is 9-3 ATS with rest.....AND.....25-15 ATS vs revenge (Boise won LY 57-14)
*Boise rested/healthy....an OL and FB are ??.....they get SS Cedric Febis back here..... Rockets?.....off huge emotional and physical game....with BEST defensive players OUT MLB Molls...SLB Bell...Rover Ballard booted earlier....FS Singer out.....and CB Paige is doubtful..
Personally ....I not smart enough to bet Boise here myself......as line should be 14-15 maybe... *Boise 1H on the road is almost automatic (10')...lean over...if Rockets are moving ball any....maybe consider Toledo 2H/over...if not...Boise often shuts it down 2H if up big ....lean under
Boise is resilent....if they want to, they can cover the # easily. Toledo will put up a fight in the 1st half, but I think Boise will pull away 2nd half.
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Boise is resilent....if they want to, they can cover the # easily. Toledo will put up a fight in the 1st half, but I think Boise will pull away 2nd half.
Why would anyone want to lay 3 Touchdowns on the road on National TV where everyone plays at a higher level on top of that this is the BIGGEST GAME at TOLEDO EVER!!! Boise state will have to TOTALLY SHUTDOWN their running game or this will be decided in the 4th qtr. This game is not at Boise where Boise rolls over people. As long as Toledo is not banged up after playing such a physical game against OSU there is plenty of motivation so that won't be a problem even with a close loss. If anything they know they can not only play with BS but beat them. Not a big play for me because who knows how banged up Toledo truly is but will take 3 tds all day long with a team that can run and pass AT HOME on NT. It's Friday night and the only game is this one.
The "easiest game" on the slate, and you buy a point and it's not even a big play for you???
Maybe you meant easiest game on Friday.
Hard to take you seriously w/ claims like that.
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Quote Originally Posted by Handicapper33:
Why would anyone want to lay 3 Touchdowns on the road on National TV where everyone plays at a higher level on top of that this is the BIGGEST GAME at TOLEDO EVER!!! Boise state will have to TOTALLY SHUTDOWN their running game or this will be decided in the 4th qtr. This game is not at Boise where Boise rolls over people. As long as Toledo is not banged up after playing such a physical game against OSU there is plenty of motivation so that won't be a problem even with a close loss. If anything they know they can not only play with BS but beat them. Not a big play for me because who knows how banged up Toledo truly is but will take 3 tds all day long with a team that can run and pass AT HOME on NT. It's Friday night and the only game is this one.
The "easiest game" on the slate, and you buy a point and it's not even a big play for you???
This is Boise's SECOND game in 2011. Their last loss in 2010 was after going 9-0 and in a road game on Friday in front of a national TV crowd against a double-digit opponent. They led 17-0 early and 24-7 at half before going strangely conservative and easing up.
You don't think they remember that? Especially after Toledo put a huge scare to a top 10 opponent? You don't think Petersen is drilling into each player's head what happened last year when Boise overlooked a double-digit road team? And last year's Nevada team was much better than this Toledo's team
I'm still mulling this game over. 20's a lot of points. Boise could win by 14 and be perfectly happy.
Maybe Toledo's good enough to stay w/i 20 of Boise. But the Toledo backers that assume that Boise will somehow underestimate or overlook Toledo, just b/c Boise did the same with Nevada last year, are smoking some good ish.
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This is Boise's SECOND game in 2011. Their last loss in 2010 was after going 9-0 and in a road game on Friday in front of a national TV crowd against a double-digit opponent. They led 17-0 early and 24-7 at half before going strangely conservative and easing up.
You don't think they remember that? Especially after Toledo put a huge scare to a top 10 opponent? You don't think Petersen is drilling into each player's head what happened last year when Boise overlooked a double-digit road team? And last year's Nevada team was much better than this Toledo's team
I'm still mulling this game over. 20's a lot of points. Boise could win by 14 and be perfectly happy.
Maybe Toledo's good enough to stay w/i 20 of Boise. But the Toledo backers that assume that Boise will somehow underestimate or overlook Toledo, just b/c Boise did the same with Nevada last year, are smoking some good ish.
Still 21 pts is alot to lay on the road. Plus when a top team gets ahead they like to play defense instead of offense late in the game. Which we all know fucks us in large spreads.
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Still 21 pts is alot to lay on the road. Plus when a top team gets ahead they like to play defense instead of offense late in the game. Which we all know fucks us in large spreads.
Boise won't let up until they hang 50 on the Rockets. This is their last chance to win all the marbles. If they can...they will put up 50..60..70..won't matter. Boise has something prove to the NCAA..
We hear this every year ....
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Quote Originally Posted by seakev1:
Boise won't let up until they hang 50 on the Rockets. This is their last chance to win all the marbles. If they can...they will put up 50..60..70..won't matter. Boise has something prove to the NCAA..
Only worry that OSU may have banged them up a little bit in a very physical game but it also showed Toledo has the athletes to play with ANYONE especially a finesse team like Boise. Boise strength is their Defense as they can stop the run and will have to against a very, very balanced Toledo attack that could have easily won at Ohio State and now are at home on National TV. Three TD's is wayy too many points versus a team that can run and pass. OSU shut down Toledo run attack which if Boise cannot Toledo has a slight chance to win this game. Boise run game is extremely stout and is the biggest reason why they win games. People overlook how good BS defense is but playing on the road anything can happen and when the game is on NT and is the highest ranked team to play at Toledo if Toledo can get any semblance of a running game they are playing on house money as Boise will always have all the pressure on them. If Toledo is able to run the ball this game goes down to the wire if they handle them like OSU did holding them to 46 yards which I doubt since they are at home than they will at least keep it within that huge number. Should be interesting next year when Boise looses K Moore and a ton of starters. Noone ever leaves Boise early like all the other big teams that have to deal with attrition because they leave early. I have heard Boise has a good qb coming in but just like Texas if you don't have an experience qb you will drop like a hammer. Toledo + the big number.
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Quote Originally Posted by Handicapper33:
Only worry that OSU may have banged them up a little bit in a very physical game but it also showed Toledo has the athletes to play with ANYONE especially a finesse team like Boise. Boise strength is their Defense as they can stop the run and will have to against a very, very balanced Toledo attack that could have easily won at Ohio State and now are at home on National TV. Three TD's is wayy too many points versus a team that can run and pass. OSU shut down Toledo run attack which if Boise cannot Toledo has a slight chance to win this game. Boise run game is extremely stout and is the biggest reason why they win games. People overlook how good BS defense is but playing on the road anything can happen and when the game is on NT and is the highest ranked team to play at Toledo if Toledo can get any semblance of a running game they are playing on house money as Boise will always have all the pressure on them. If Toledo is able to run the ball this game goes down to the wire if they handle them like OSU did holding them to 46 yards which I doubt since they are at home than they will at least keep it within that huge number. Should be interesting next year when Boise looses K Moore and a ton of starters. Noone ever leaves Boise early like all the other big teams that have to deal with attrition because they leave early. I have heard Boise has a good qb coming in but just like Texas if you don't have an experience qb you will drop like a hammer. Toledo + the big number.
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