This committe is completely lost

Agree.  I think the Noles win outright.

 

And don't discount the Urban Meyer factor.  I'm sure everyone on the committee wanted to see him in the mix.

 

.         Boom,I think having FSU #1 is old school 'small thinking'With straight face after watching FSU vs Florida u can honestly say FSU is the #1 team in the country? Not no,but hell no.Difference in Bama and FSU is that many people view FSU as having that Winston weapon while Bama its just rotating 5 star recruits.I don't get the Ole Piss comments non stop when u are better than that.Bro,u always seem to harp how hard it is to win at certain schools .I don't see how there is a more difficult place to coach.I know u don't respect the SEC West that MANY say "2014 SEC West is the greatest division ever assembled in CFB history'' I didn't say it...Its the so called experts.Man,what Hugh Freeze has done is nothing short of remarkable.They are a decent Qb from winning it all.Look,just give credit to Freeze.I sometimes wonder if u gmhave a Bill Snyder shrine.You fail to mention Snyder has had 2 chances as favorites to win the National title and BLEW both of them...All I'm saying is give credit where its due.Ole Miss has a good football team.This Royal Recruiting class of Hugh Freeze are just sophomores.Go look up how many 4-5 star recruits live within 150 miles of campus...it ain't many.I don't think u give close to the amount of credit for Freeze having to play Bama,LSU,MissSt,Auburn,Arkansas,TexasA&M every year and he did beat #1 Bama & #1_Much of season MissSt.That's a great road trip just for the view.Lordy,BYU walking around campus..Bring em Young.Dolling.U U sound like u just want to bully Ole Miss and be an ACC spokeman.Just curious why do u have it out for Ole Miss?A MissSt guy asked me and I honestly replied John Bond Can so called scandle.The thing that bugs me about a lot of FSU fans is they are bandwagon fans or like them for their colors.Why would I care who someone else cheers for.Sick of their mouths...Just fess up Boom .Admit u are pulling for FSU.November CFB & NFL is usually gravy 2game 6pt tease month.Not this year.I am liking Ole Miss with the points vs TCU...Boom,if Baylor or TCU would have been replaced with Oklahoma or Texas what happens?

Vegas uses Sagarin as a tool way to predict public money, that is all. They don't look at his numbers and set lines according to his actual numbers. For instance, Alabama is -10. Sagarin has them at -4. Obviously they are not using Sagarin's actual numbers, not even close.They are using the fact that the public will see Sagarin's -4 in the USA Today paper or online and see the real line and bet OSU thinking they are getting 6 points of value. Once again, Sagarin has never hit 53% in a season. Sagarin is a money loser. If anything, Vegas actually in a way fades Sagarin at times because it is used by  the most people. Sagarin is Joe Public's betting tool. How many other rankings are published in a nationally distributed newspaper? My 15 year old nephew knows what Sagarin is. He has no idea what Colley Matrix or Billingsley are. You would actually have to make a concerted effort to find them and know where to look. My wife can pick up a USA Today or be on their site and find his ratings .There have been many articles on Sagarin and it's usefulness, I believe Vegasinsider had one recently. I will check Sagarin to see how close my # is. If it is way off from mine and leads me to believe I can get a better #, I will hold off on the bet. That is all it is useful for.

The nutcase I was talking to thinks Sagarin is some kind of god of the gambling world. He tried to say that the Cincinnati Bengals should have been -7 in Foxboro awhile back because Sagarin said so LMAO . He started  a whole thread trying to insult anyone's intelligence who would dare to back NE in that game going as far to say he would delete his account if NE went 9-7. We all know how that worked out. He is still here insulting other people for their opinions claiming he is smarter than everyone in the world. Yet the guy is constantly so far off base its hilarious. Every thread this crazy posts BS like this, its either a monkey throwing feces, or a the guy swallowing loads. There is no intelligent debate, no facts at all used by him... its basically I am the smartest man in the world( even though he is a moron). I just want the crazy to stop cluttering up peoples threads with his BS. The Fact that this nut job thinks ESPN's FPI is an actual legitimate tool for gambling is a testament to his delusions. You could pull #'s out of a hat and post them with a Sagarin label and this crazy will defend them to the end, even if they went 0-1000. The guy just never learns. LOL

The BCS would of had the same matchups The only difference is they had FSU and Oregon switched.  The CFP committee actually had the BCS computers compile a BCS rankings. The only difference is they had the AP take the place of the Harris poll. You can view it through the Colley rankings site.

https://www.colleyrankings.com/curBcsLike.html

The BCS rankings would have been:

1. Alabama

2. FSU

3. Oregon

4. OSU

5. TCU

6. Baylor

7. Miss State

8. Michigan State

9. Mississippi

10. Arizona

Exactly the same top 10 as the committee swapping Oregon and FSU and TCU and Baylor.

^you are the only guy who gets it

^esp about sagarin--that guy is so 1980's

Cornholio- 

Man do you get it  

Which means what? All you need to do is go to Rivals, ESPN, Scout or any other reputable rating service and see how many of the nation's top 10, 20, 50, 100 or whatever number you choose and see how many of them come from outside of SEC country, Texas or Southern California. It will probably amaze you. You're obviously a Pavel Datsyuk fan (as am I.....for my two cents he's the best puck handler in the history of the game), so I hope you will heed this sound advice and at least stay away from the Buckeyes when they play Bama.

To clarify, the golden mean and Predictor, along with ELO, are formulated using different sets of criteria, and Sagarin does weight his by referencing these as well... but his rankings have been around for decades longer than either of these systems, and only recently did he incorporate them... however, the methods used to obtain all 4 sets of numbers are different...

So why do we need country clubbers with shiny buttons to decide it?

Wow really? LMAO

The Golden Mean is a "formula" made by Sagarin.

Pure Points or the Predictor model is a formula created by Sagarin.

So is elo chess.  It just removed MOV, so he says. They are all created by Sagarin.

The predictor or pure points formula is the one he started with long ago. 

FOR THE LOVE OF GOD IT SAYS IT RIGHT ON THE PAGE ABOVE HIS RANKINGS. Are you trying to say Sagarin is lying or doesn't know what his own formulas are and you do ? Holy crap you are nuts.

OMG Wow, as I typed you backtracked after you went and looked at his site and then regurgitated what little your feeble mind could.Priceless. LMAO

Power rankings are most definitely opinions. That is why they are different. They value different things. It is the author's OPINION of what factors should be included in the formula. If they weren't opinions, they would be 100% accurate and there would be only 1. They are very subjective. I can make a "power ranking" according to uniform color and use a quantitative formula. Does that mean it is valid? Absolutely not.

 

Absolutely did not and would never tail you or anyone, especially someone who doesn't even understand Sagarin. I was just amazed that someone would create a thread specifically to insult people and boast about their ingenious Sagarin inspired line and play, call out people who intelligently question your logic and method, challenge them and their integrity, then backtrack after you lose in Fantastic and obvious fashion and still insult people that were right all along.  The whole time proclaiming your superior intellect and abilities while all you did was incorrectly use Sagarin's Predictor. I didn't even post anything on that thread, I just watched the slow motion car wreck that is you in amazement. The  only reason I even remembered who you are is your condescending tone. You have repeatedly appeared in other peoples threads with the same exact tone and done the same exact thing over and over again. Just Shut up already. Haven't you made yourself look dumb enough? It's like you never learn. Geezus. I know many other people have said the same exact thing. STFU already. We get it, your a psycho idiot.

I have made the exact same point Skipster.  If the schizophrenic committee is coming up with the same (or copying) the results of the old BCS, then what is their reason for being???  Why are we throwing money at these idiots???  5 drunk guys at the bar could do what they did, and it would have only cost a 12-pack.

 

I agree that Fla St as last years champions and undefeated should be in the final four.

In= I'm really mods

I wonder if Miss St. would be in if they had beat Ole Miss