This committe is completely lost

I'm sorry.

We can all argue for days about this.... But the facts are there is ZERO concrete criteria for what your team needs to do to be apart of the final 4. Jeff Long speaks out of both sides of his mouth.


My 4

1. FSU
2. Alabama
3. Oregon
4. Baylor


IMO....and IMO, Baylor is in over TCU. Head to head has to matter...and Baylor should have gotten in over Ohio st.



Let the chaos begin.




One final statement... Leaving Baylor out is just wrong.

Go Bucks 

I think they got it right. That's what the big 12 gets for not having A championship game. They get left out. Fuk em.  Committee

Ohio St beats up on Wisconsin in the Big 10 Championship game. TCU beats up on Iowa St in A meaningless game. It's what happens last. It's what they see last.

LOT of talk about that on the selection show. I'm PIZZED Ohio State is in (Michigan Sate fan) BUT hard to argue against it after their "signature" win in Indy.

and btw, I think that EITHER Baylor OR TCU could beat Florida State. will be an Alabama vs Oregon championship game.

So they are COMPLETELY lost when they only had one different than you? That is about the dumbest thing I have seen all day

I agree completely.  Bottom line is this isn't that much better than BCS era.  I just think current best 4 teams are clear:

You have six teams basically vying for four spots. Regardless of who gets left out someone is going to whine and cry foul. End of story

First I would like to say thanks for not entering my thread bashing me as you do so often.

With that being said, I totally disagree with your FSU comments.



Let me ask you this.... If Bama were 14-0 last year and won the NC. And barley squeaked by every game this year and were dropped to as far as #4....Would this forum/country/fans not be in meltdown mode?

We can argue about who should be #1....But the one thing that isn't debatable is just what I said. IF Bama went 14-0 last year and won every game this season by skin of their teeth.... EsecPN and this forum would never agree that they should pulled away from that #1 spot.

There is a bias...Plain and simple  

Get over it. Does it matter? The ACC sucks. Plain and simple. FSU if any team should be out. They will get blasted by the Ducks.

You guys ever stop to think Oklahoma's loss as 21 point favorites to Oklahoma State really messed things up for TCU and BAYLOR? 

I can see how a committee would come up with this. Put it this way. You have Baylor at #4. But their OWN CONFERENCE doesn't think they're as good as TCU, or they would make them the champions. I stated the reason why they hesitated, but they didn't do themselves any favors by doing so.

It is rather difficult to get past losing AT HOME to V Tech lol, but apparently the committee had no trouble with that, when taking all the factors into consideration.

The chairman does speak out of both sides of his mouth, just like Boom alludes to. And that's because they will use different criteria for each team to fit their needs that week. Long cracks me up.

 

But they aren't completely lost. They just came up with a ranking that's different from you. As long as you go by "eye test" and "what we think," this is going to happen. Using computers to measure schedule strength and then opponents' schedule strength, like they did until 2002, is the way to go. But everybody got mad when the computers put Nebraska in the title game vs Miami in the 2001 season by like .05 points, and so they got rid of it.

This is why my argument the last few years of the BCS was that it was an 8 team playoff.  There are plenty of bowls for that system and by rotating the bowls every year there is a Championship game in a different venue . There is also plenty of time to play the 1st round of 4 games,then 2 games and the Nat'l championship.

IMO
Four best
Tide
Ducks
Bears
Bucks

Most deserving
Tide
Ducks
Noles
Bears

There will always be debate about which teams should and shouldn't be in whether we have two, four, six, eight who do we not appreciate.
I take the frogs, bears and bucks, compare who had the best win?
Baylor over TCU. Now who had the worst loss? Ohio st to V tech. What I will say about St is that if they're playing well with their third string qb (I know it was only one game) what do you think they'd be doing if they had Miller all season?

Fuking clueless is a understatement Boom_Boom!

The deciding factor was Ohio State's fan base is 5 times bigger than Baylor's and TCU's put together.  Give NW OSU's resume and give Texas the resume of either Baylor or TCU and the committee picks Texas 10 out of 10 times.  The committee and the NCAA's tv partner, espn, will give you a bunch of reason for the result, but its all about MONEY.  It's no different than the previous system when it came to choosing the at-large teams for the bcs bowls.

The sec bias gets talked about frequently, but its there for the big 10 too.  The difference is the sec backs it up on the field.  The big 10 has been awful in bowl games for years and this year their top 4 teams all lost a non conference game.  I bring this up because anyone saying osu deserved to be in must be pointing to their 9-0 big 10 record being enough to offset losing by 14 at HOME to a bad Virginia Tech team.

I think Oregon and Bama would beat FSU. I do think they are better...But, and this is a big BUT.... I don't know that. I don't that for sure and anyone who says they know for sure is full of it. The thing is we don't know.

This is what I do know.. the 4 they chose can be debated. But there is about 8 teams who atleast deserve to be in that conversation. I can't make a a good argument for Baylor and TCU both being out. I can however, make a argument for Ohio st being out.


A few things about Watson.

Tons of players play with torn ACL's. Do some research and you will see.

Do I think it was ok? yeah and no....I personally know people on the staff and training staff and can tell you with certainty that if they thought playing him would do further damage they wouldn't have.

As far as playing him in the bowl game.... I say no. Just do the surgery and get it over with. The bowl game really means nothing IMO. Go do the surgery and move forward... they got this ACL stuff down to a science. Players can recover in 6 months now.



in summary, my biggest beef isn't really about the Ohio st vs Baylor or vs TCU argument. It's more about treating all teams equally...and that my friend, doesn't happen in college football. The biggest problem with college football in general is ESPN, an I will never back off of that stand.

  

Exactly. Pretty much every fan in this forum knows the score, but the very casual fans........the ones the network HOPES will tune into the playoff games........don't know who Baylor or TCU are, but they have probably HEARD of ohio st. Not to mention the amount of B10 fans that will tune in hoping to see osu get destroyed.
 Ratings are king..........& the call was close enough that the committee could get away with this.

well, it has a buck-toothed, female, piano player on it

you have Seminoles ranked 1st, and then accuse the committee of being lost?  

This thread is completely lost

Baylor and TCU both played FCS schools, terrible non-conference schedules and didn't have a conference championship game. 

This thread is completely lost.