Take Two! (Bowl Season... with angles!)

let's see... regarding the 5 moose jobs... i would make the same plays on all 5 of those games if they took place again, even with the benefit of hindsight... the only possible exception would be Kansas St, only because the reffing was so shady that i would be concerned that aspect would not change... and while i see what you're saying about the "coincidence" of being on the wrong side of all 5... i just don't see any relevance in that... i watched all 5 games... when i make a bad bet, i know it usually by halftime, and often long before that... i never at any point during any of those 5 games felt i had made a bad bet... Fresno was a bad bet... Hawaii was a bad bet... Missouri, Utah, K St, Tx Tech and TCU were not bad bets...

i am never impressed by people who think there is only one possible outcome of a game... and that the winning side was always the right side...

regarding Arkansas, i believe i have explained it, but will do so again... i did NOT play Arkansas immediately, as you can see on this thread... i played it the minute rumors started about possible OSU suspensions, knowing that if those rumors didn't pan out, i would have the opportunity to buy out of the play and just lose the juice... at this point, i am still on the fence... i see that play as 50/50, and therefore can't really justify buying out of it... most likely will tease Ohio St down and pair it with either Nevada (again) or with an NFL play...

as for talking shit!  i don't believe in going on someone else's thread after they have already locked in a play and telling them it's the wrong play, without giving a single reason... to me, that is just talking shit!  occasionally (but rarely) i will caution somebody by giving them reasons to be worried... but mostly i will only do that if they are considering the play, but have not yet made it...

otherwise you are just giving someone bad mojo... what good does it do someone to tell them they made a bad bet after they made it?  especially someone who isn't in the habit of tailing other people, and makes their own plays... i can read your thread and know when you don't like a play, because you are on the other side... and you can do the same with my threads... nothing more than that needs to be said...

take it easy!

https://www.covers.com/postingforum/post01/showmessage.aspx?spt=33&sub=100907525

see posts:  43, 45, 47, 49, 50, 52, 60, (62... mine), 66, 68, 77, 80, 83...

and continuing:

https://www.covers.com/postingforum/post01/showmessage.aspx?spt=33&sub=100914656

see posts:  6, 11, 14, 16, 20, 21, 30, 39, 44...

APOC i dont understand you. You put up links to posts that were made 3 weeks ago. Yesterday you start thread paging for SuperBeets to PM you. Then suddenly you have a NO Bash post from him in this thread. OK fine hes the boss and looks like everyone backed off. So you s.o.s. and get assistance. But then today at 3:45ish you show up in my thread---and YOU START to bash. Maybe im wrong but it sure seems like you expect a double standard in youre favor. You want freedom to bash and rip but you need protection from those that pull your chain. I spent a week in the PB and come out and dont come near youre thread. And then all of a sudden you come into mine and its OK for you to rip. what a f*c#ing wuss you are. And if that statement gets me boxed again then half guys on covers dont belong here

oh i see... you are not understanding the term "bashing"... bashing is you doing rolling heads and calling me a loser and a wuss and such for 3 pages...

bashing is NOT me pointing out where you have said one thing out of one side of your mouth, and something else out of the other side... or defending another respected capper who is only trying to engage in a discussion, but you keep insulting him and trying to discredit his very valid points...

hopefully i have helped to clarify this discrepancy for you here today... and hopefully you can avoid getting boxed for this misunderstanding...

well obviously!!!

you dont honestly expect me to believe that now do you. Like i said youre the only guy on Covers with more excuses than winners. And this thread only proves why so many guys bash you. BOL and continued success (LOL) talking out both corners of youre mouth

actually, you are one of about 5 who bash me... other than RJ (who still bashes me because i disagreed with a couple of his plays back in week 5), i consider none of them to be respectable people or cappers... when truly respectable cappers on this site start bashing me, i will rethink my ways... until then, i just see it as taking out the trash...

but again, you cannot say things like "talking out of both corners of your mouth" when you are talking about getting moosed by a pick 6 in the Florida game, but absolutely refuse to acknowledge that you were equally lucky to get Pick 6 wins in the Iowa and NW games...

if i get a lucky win, i know it, and i admit it... show me my lucky win(s)... even in the NFL (where i'm just a hair below 60% for the year)... you show me a lucky win and i'll own up to it!

all i am trying to do is what Alien-1 was trying to do... get you to start being a respectable capper, because that is what this site desperately needs!  but it's up to you to get the message... time will tell how that turns out for you...

"respectable people or cappers" 
A five page thread, a below .500 Bowl Record, still cocky as hell. 
Love it. 

working towards mediocrity.  

says one of the 5...



you might want to refer back to page 4 and SuperBeets warning...

Good luck today...........................

I just promised a Mod id stay out of here and after this I wont be back. And as far as you respecting me I wont shit my diapers if you dont
As far as me bashing---you threw the first pitch. That doesnt make retaliate right but you fail to remember that simple fact. I dont rip anyones threads until they rip mine. That doesnt make it right i know but i dont bash guys that take time to post. without looking thru entire thread id certainly call Laroja nd BigUnit pretty decent cappers. And dont see them bashing to may guys other than you. And a few others in this thread alone. As far as refusing to acknowlege "lucky wins" what does it mean when i say "ive won alot that i shouldnt have won"? think pretty obvious what that means. Lucky wins you didnt acknowledge Id sure call a backup punt returner that muffs 2 punts inside his 20 pretty lucky when both lead to scores and you win by 3 when laying 2.5. That prolly isnt  a favorable break?
Stay out of my threads Ill stay out of yours. that way we can lot Mods do theyre work and you wont have to call them for s.o.s. and I wont get boxed

It would probably be a good idea if both of you avoid confrontation in the mains, if that means not posting in each others threads that might be a start.

Street... i have asked him countless times to stay off of my thread, but the guy just will not quit... i don't think time in the box had much of a rehabilitating effect...

according to him... he just promised you he would stay off my thread, and then promptly posted yet another inflammatory and insulting post on my thread... what kind of shit is that?

his claim that i "threw the first pitch" is utter crap!  as is virtually every other statement he makes... i respect your warning... but in my opinion, he is far over-stepped the bounds of respect and civility, right here on my thread, and i have not done that...

not to mention the countless lies in claims he has made... whatever i posted on his thread has always remained within the realm of truth and civility... he has not even attempted to do either of those things...

the guy needs an extended period in the box, from what i can see... but it's not my site... however, by his own admission, he just blatantly spit in the face of his own promise to stay off of my thread...

i hope something will be done about this once and for all...

just more bullshit from the king of bullshit!

assuming you are talking about Air Force... (a) Air Force won 14-7... (b) they converted 1 fumbled punt into a TD at the start of the 4th quarter... (c) neither of their FGs in the first half resulted from turnovers... (d) you can't compare converting a fumbled punt into a TD to start the 4th quarter, with what Blaine Gabbert or Taylor Potts did for you at the end of the Iowa and NW games...


this is what i'm talking about with WhiteMice... first he breaks his promise to the mods to stay off of my threads... then in doing so posts outright bullshit lies on my thread... find a single lie i have posted on his threads, and i will rescind everything i've said... meanwhile he has continuously and persistently posted lies on my threads!

this is not respectable behavior for a capper on this site, if you ask me... and i know, you didn't ask me... but i truly hope you guys will take this trash out to the curb where he belongs, once and for all...

Am I one of the 5, cuz all I do is was show your actual posts and this alone exposes you. I don't bash you. I just see you for what you are (or at least appear to be). And I do COMPREHEND what you say in your posts. WHITE MICE IS ABSOLUTELY CORRECT  from what I've seen. I will get out of your thread now missy so don't get your panties in a bunch. Oh, and people don't bash you because (as I said before) your ignorance can be exhausting to say the least. If someone does not agree with you, you get all defensive and start with the insults. That my friend is"immaturity" at its finest. Good luck in your future plays

SuperBeets, you really need to read APOC's posts in other threads. He trashes more than anyone.

disagreeing and trashing are two very different things... this site is made for debating, particularly threads that are created for discussion... something that you and whitemice both do not understand... i make my points and i make them strongly... but i do not call people a fucking wuss or a loser or other crap like that...


added for tonight's game:

ML Parlay:  Stanford / Ohio St  (+150)

what I mean by this is, there are some people that are just not worth the time and energy. I thought you should know, you are one of these people. That is why many don't bash you. NOW I AM OUT!

 

I will give you that. I haven't seen you get quite that bad. However, you don't discuss anything. If somebody disagrees with you, you get defensive and you do insult them. You just try to do it cleverly. You are not that clever. I have seen it myself. If someone disagrees with you, you start with the personal trash talk. Maybe not as bad as above, but trash talk nonetheless. If you are as smart as you claim, try to use some restraint andshow some maturity in the future. Obviously, some of this has gotten out of hand with you two. But, the blame falls on you as well. Just maybe not in this thread.

You got it. Just wanted to shed some unbiased light on this. I am leaving now.

more crap!  i don't post anything unless it is about football and is worth discussing... people make ridiculous claims, and i do my best to point out why they are ridiculous, and make my case... most of this forum is full of blind tailers, and they get pissed at the real cappers when those cappers go on a gold streak... that is not acceptable behavior!  and i do not hold back in ripping them... they deserve it... but with respect to football discussion, i keep it about football, and i keep it respectful...

you cannot say otherwise... and you are not unbiased, because you and i just disagreed on something yesterday, if i remember correctly... so you are coming from a standpoint of someone who didn't see eye to eye with me...

that is not unbiased...

This isnt about being impressed. At the end of the day, and at the end of every day, its about cashing tickets. The winning side doesnt matter, the side that covers is always the right side. I used to think like you did, admittedly. I gave that up a bit ago.

Dont tease that down. Get off of it. I believe the line not moving is enough, and it has been so far, to let you know it might not be the right side.

with all due respect... i am not somebody on this site who makes plays based on what other people tell me to do... the fact that you keep TELLING ME to cancel my bet, is incredibly disrespectful...

enough!  i already explained to you that it is bad mojo to keep coming on someone else's thread and telling them which bets you think will lose...

you have a lot to learn still... about many things... when i said "take it easy," that was meant as a hint... please take it!

for gods sake, if you disagree, get the hell out of the thread!!!!!!!!!!! This is for people who agree with him and those people only!!!!!! Damn the nerve if you Sizzzle. You really do have A LOT to learn. It is so disrespectful of you to come into my thread and give an opinion that differs from Apoc's.

I couldn't help it!!!

 I'll stop